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Can they turn into "Shazams" anytime they want or only when Billy wants/lets them?

This question is for both movies and comis (I aven't see anything Shazam since the new origin in the pages of JL)

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please answer this is killing me

Also do they have all powers and just have different preferences? Freddy flying, guy with strrenght, jap with lightning, darla and superspeed...

I also didn't like they didn't use the "Wisdom" of Solomon for anything.

Yes, Pedro and Eugene transformed by themselves in the new run

Yeah, they work independently of Billy.
So basicly you have 6 Shazams running around at this point.

How come Pedro could say it without changing back?

this is so retarded

And they all have the same powers?

And writers can't seem to use the Wisdom of Solomon? God, just make Billy know random facts and he couldn't possibly have studied or really old shit. Don't make him do dumb shit.

You know. Like he does in the movie the whole time

Eugene has technopathy. Darla is the fastest. Pedro is strongest and most durable. The others don't have any strengths or preferences yet.

It’s sortable like Flashpoint where each kid’s had one trait more amplified. Eugene can communicate with Machines, so that’s Wisdom I guess

But they do have all the powers?

And yeah, the technopathy didn't appear in the movies whatsoever. Does he control other stuff through his electricity or something?

This concept is so lame to me. Instantly a whole big team. What makes The Hero Formerly Known as Captain Marvel stand out?

Because it's REALLY dodgy when the transformation works and when it doesn't.
The overall idea is that you can't just simply say "shazam" and transform, you have to want to transform - conciously or subconciously. Some writers forget that, some ignore that, and at this point when saying "shazam" works and when it doesn't is iffy as fuck.

It didn't come up in the movie. Aside from technopathy they all have the same power set, the just have different stat point allocations. Presumably Billy will be the best lightning slinger, Mary will end up being the wisest and Freddy will probably be the kid with the idiot/courage ball. Probably won't do anything with the "stamina of Achilles" or whatever since how do you even write that?

Well on the latest issue of the new Shazam run Darla and Freddy separated from Billy attempted to transform but couldnt iirc, so there is some kind of limit there.

Pedro and Eugene were already transformed before they got separated irrc, so they might be fine because of that, still they might find that they cant use their powers to their fullest because they are away from Billy, who knows.

Either way its still pretty early on the new run they might introduce some other limit be it time or something like that.

As the red power ranger, leading the team.

its a newer thing with the new52 making so many of them, basically it was a way to tie in the other "lesser" marvels as well as adding more. what it mechanically came out to is that they all have shazam lite powers, but each one specifically focuses on ONE gods letter, S H A Z A M, with billy still being Z, since zeus' power is the one they use for its literal energy source
they all have the full shazam pantheon power, but excel in one area

This was always the case. Captain Marvel had a bunch of helpers and sidekicks throughout his run.
It's like complaning that Batman hangs out with Robin, Nightwing and Batgirl and that makes him less of a Batman.

I'll admit I'm ignorant to the nu Marvel family but the classic family felt more natural and manageable

>Are we Shazams too?

The real sin is not giving Mary a white outfit to make hers distinct from Billy's

the biggest problem was adding them so rapidly all at once, but given the newest origin was in backups in few issues, they had to go through them quickly. they needed a way to introduce the two other marvels, and all of the evils of man, and they decided to go HAM
i personally liked it, but do feel it was messy since it happened so quickly
im sure some anons on here remember the absolute shitstorm of a show there was when the new52 billy started out as an absolute cunt, and people eventually fell in love with him

she used red much more than white, but i agree. the old three should have been R W B and the new ones should have been the other colors sans black obviously. the fact that one is a black costume just seems retarded, even whtin that story

That's the real sin?
I'm am still pissed that Mary Marvel is not technically played by Grace Fulton.

I thought Yea Forums still hated NuBilly actually

Orange and Yellow would've looked dumb, but Grey is an okay compromise

Mary is also red so he doesn't even has that.

The actress they got for the adult Mary Marvel looked so fucking ugly and her makeup terrible.

What the actual fuck, should have let it be the same actress in the case of Mary because she ALREADY LOOKS THE BEST SHE CAN BE.

Plus they wouldn't have to pay another fucking actress in a already low-budget movie just to appear for some SECONDS.

To be fair, darla, eugene, and pedro feels extra characters and have little to no personality other than being "kids".

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japanese nerd guy

fat timid guy

energetic black girl

Pedro looks worn down by life

Fucking Gary Frank makes everybody with these retarded old-ass faces.

Guy can't draw kids for the life of him.

Also, that is the fucking SAME smile he puts on Clark/Superman all the time. And it looks dumb as fuck too

Yeah she's hot enough already. She looks like a middle aged faggot in her Mary Marvel form.

Asian Stereotype
Barely a personality
Kid Stereotype

Draws Superman exactly the same with that creepy smile

The movie fixed that

You're confusing wisdom for intelligence.

Nah they're still pretty generic. Being played by an actor instead of being a drawn character doesnt mean more personality.

They can transform as long as Billy remains champion. Without him, they have nothing

It appears that they can turn when they want just by saying "Shazam", for example Mary and Darla were able to transform while at home, while Billy was at a museum
However it appear that at the very least they need to be in the same realm/universe, since when Freddy and Darla were sent to Wildworld, without Billy, they couldn't transform

It makes sense because they draw power from Billy, not the pantheon

How about distance? Powers? Anything?

He doesn't have "wisdom" for anything anyways. They didn't acknowledge this part of his powers in any way

Being timid isn't a personality?

....

I'm really asking because I can think of a few characters that are just defined by that.

Then they're not characters and just retards.

If you say so.

>the classic family felt more natural and manageable
Did it tho? Did Uncle dudley really felt natural or any of the other billies felt manageable?

Agree, but they did their best giving a small moment to each of them, Darla stole the show though the movie could have been about those three and it would still be great.
I think the problem was that the character was already an adult so they had to get an even older actress to play her super hero form.

Yeah, Shazam Mary is in her 40's, while regular Mary is 23, slightly younger than the actor playing Shazam Eugene. I guess they wanted to have different actress play her for some reason, but that's just stupid.

>Stamina of Achilles
Easy, make them kill osiris and drag his body around black Adam's fortress for a week

I'd assumed the stamina of achilles was the invulnerability, since that's what achilles is known for. I'm betting it also played a hand in being able to drink all that soda.

Darla and Eugene had pretty well defined personalities, Pedro was still pretty blank but that’s due to a lack of any real screentime

>the absolute shitstorm of a show there was when the new52 billy started out as an absolute cunt
Was it like how every other part of the internet got mad at Superman also starting as a cunt because they missed the Golden Age reference?

>Stamina
COURAGE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

>Wisdom of Solomon
>Strength of Hercules
>Stamina of Atlas
>Power of Zeus
>Courage of Achilles
>Speed of Mercury

Does Billy get less powerful the more he spreads the powers around again?

Stamina of Atlas. Moviefag.

in this instance he did, but zeus is the most "powerful" of his gods, so he was still the strongest of the 6

Is Mary really a big name in comics?

They should have had an actual 17 year old playing young Mary and have Fulton play her Shazam form. as it is she might as well be called Milf Marvel.

You mean aside from being first and being the star?

Mary Marvel has been in the comics since forever and is pretty well established. She's not an A-lister, but she's somewhere near Power Girl or Wonder Girl in terms of popularity.

She's discount Anna Kendrick and you fucking know it

Glad to see some normalfags weren't too sold on the diversity family either, should make it easier to prune in the long term.

I'd say a tier below wherever you rank Billy.

Which sin-demon was holding Mary?

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Sloth. Obviously.

Honestly, I don't get why people have such a big problem with "diversity". They were just a bunch of crazy kids, it's not like the movie was beating you over the head with some forced "progressive" messages.

Did she have her own run or does she appear in any major titles?
Why is it obviously sloth? Does it relate to her character flaws somehow? From the screenshot it could just as easily be gluttony or lust.

I'd have said Gluttony. Pride's design was my favourite.

She appeared in a lot of cartoons, and was in almost every Shazam comic. Her movie counterpart is extremely well liked. That's more than what Sandman got, and his book is never OOP

Both she and Captain Marvel Jr. had a run back in the golden age. I haven't got to hers yet and I'm not sure how it was. Captain Marvel Jr. is kind of disappointing since it doesn't have the cartoony art of C.C. Beck.

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Any pin-ups of Mary Marvel yet?

Just a reminder to not lewd Mary.
That is all.

Do you ask for Mary Marvel in general or refer to the movie version of Mary specifically?
Because with Mary Marvel being a character that existed since 1942 I can assure you that there will be a LOT of pinups of her.

There’s tentacle porn inspired from the movie

On Mary's Shazamed or non-Shazamed form? That's relatively important. Asking for a friend.

It’s her Shazamed form with Darla running by in the background not sure what’s happening

But it's so fun to.

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