What’s the worst lesson a show has ever tried to push?

What’s the worst lesson a show has ever tried to push?

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Souls are real and bad things will happen if you sell yours.

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Get in the oven. Except it's not a show yet. It's a hologram. It's a holocaust hologram.

Don't recycle

Not a show, but the ending to Kubo & the 2 Strings was so terrible, I will forever hate the movie as a whole.
>why confront bad ideas and prove them wrong?
>why confront evil people and defeat them?
>why not just erase a villain's memory? Program them with lies into believing they were good all along. Evil defeated 4ever!

You are fine just like you are, you don't need to change yourself.

Sex is bad
Guns are bad

A better way to put it would be using "improve" instead of "change". Invert your moral, and you have something practical.

How about we talk about Fallout instead.
Who has the NV comic?

You have to go to church on Sundays. Nothing bad will happen if you don't, but everyone else is religious so you should be too.

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that lesson is very mature and people don't want to be mature, they prefer to be lazy and never improve because being better requires effort.

"Strive to improve, but always love yourself" is probably what I would go with

You win the Internet tonight, user. Be fucking proud.

I don’t always call something cringe, but this shit is fucking cringe

Yes user. Everything is cringe.

>if your plan works fine until it fails last minute from a minute miscalculation, sabotage or bad luck, then it must be abandonned forever
I blame this trope to modern teens literal fear of failure that make them unable to even try

If you love yourself you can't improve, you must despise yourself so after that you can improve.

JUZ

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That skele gun episode of Ok-ko

being gay is ok

Depends on how you are taught or wired to love, I guess. For me the ones I love I can criticize but still have a deep attachment to in the end of the day, some people love is completely unconditional and it doesn't matter how the other one acts, for others it's the opposite and love doesn't come until the person they are kind of fond of proves their worth.

if you despise yourself you never even try to improve because you're convinced you're not good enough to succeed at improving

>Bullies are just sad people that want to be your friend
Sure, bud.

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That's a very curious answer, I mean, I liked it but it was very weird... because we weren't talking about a romantic love.

It's a matter of attitude, if you despise yourself you can decide to put effort to be a better person or simply do nothing (this is the option taken by lazy people).

if you feel you deserve to be a better person you don't actually despite yourself you're just neurotic

Neither was I, though I can understand where me using the singular can be confusing, English is my second language. I suppose I do think of people I love one at a time in a weird way.

>You win the internet
>Not cringe
It's a bloody tumbler meme, and not even a new one, what are you going to post a rage comic next?

"Liberal capitalism is good".

Someone loves you, you just have to be yourself to get them.
No, no no no no. That is the most retarded advice in existence. There are a lot of personality quirks that make it hard to get a partner and if you have them you need to learn how to deal with them.

It's particular bad when they say "waiting will make them come to you", because it fucking won't. Particularly if you're a guy you need to learn how to put yourself out there.

It isn't about "I deserve to be a better person" it's more like "I want to be a better person" if you dislike how you are then you simply put that idea in your mind.

Yeah I changed a lot in the secondary and I was very popular back then, so... no, being yourself isn't good.

Despise means you think there is literally nothing worth salvaging, you are just there for you and others to hate and can accomplish nothing else. Dislike and a desire to eliminate parts of yourself that are bad and counterproductive for the good parts you want to build isn't despising yourself. It can seem like splitting hairs but it's a distinction that helped me through some tough times.

Yeah, that one is pretty galling.

OK KO gun control episode

Roadside Attraction

Pretty much the entirety of Steven Universe

That there's more than one way to do things unless it's your way then that's the only way.

I don't know if it's the WORST per se, but one which I always found to be at once baffling and both intellectually and creatively offensive:

In the 1980s D&D cartoon, there were a group of teenaged protagonists. One of them was the naysayer of the group; the voice of doubt, the guy pointing out when everyone else might be engaging in groupthink and making mistakes. In any other story, this would be an admirable and necessary trait.

BUT.

The whole and sole reason he was a part of the show was a directive given by the network: They wanted to promote groupthink as a high virtue. So there would be this one character who would question the group and would ALWAYS be wrong. He was there to show kids how wrong and bad it was to think for yourself or to question the crowd in any way. This was literally something the writers were told they had to include in the story.

I cannot for the life of me imagine how frustrating as writers it must have been to be told to include a character as part of the main cast whose sole purpose was to push such a wrongheaded "moral." A sentiment that legitimately feels like it's straight out of 1984.

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Don’t do drugs, don’t have sex, listen to your parents etc

that episode made me paranoid for over 7 years

Winning the Internet was a thing way before tumblr existed, kiddo.

The high end of the Cold War was really pulling the ends of the spokes as it were. Be happy it ended as it did.

>>why not just erase a villain's memory? Program them with lies into believing they were good all along. Evil defeated 4ever!
Well i mean, why not? It’s certainly a lot less wasteful.

Even shadman would cringe at this.

>why not just erase a villain's memory? Program them with lies into believing they were good all along. Evil defeated 4ever!
Why not tho? You can't convince a trully evil person to not be evil and brainwashing them is better than killing him

That any sort of conflict is bad.

It worked well for Superman.

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Be nice to a manipulative god of chaos that nearly ended the world twice, and allowed it to be taken over through a betrayal he committed, but send a little girl to literal hell because she didn’t make friends the correct way.

why did the moon king even want to kill kubo anyway? it wasn’t explained very well

From Ultimate Spiderman:

Constant government surveillance and invasion of privacy is a GOOD thing!

He didn’t expect the Moon to survive. He was more or less a new person after the wipe. It shows an interesting perspective, the old evil is gone, but his avatar is still there, innocent in spirt.

and that's a good thing

>you could kill the bad guy meaning any potential his life had for good
>or you could hit the reset button and try to salvage something

Absolute brainlet too stupid for a kid cartoon.

Any gun control lesson featuring characters with super powers is cringe.

Are we talking about discord here.

Don't bother trying to improve. This was where I really started to dislike SU.

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I’m not sure we watched the same movie if you are having this much trouble understanding the main plot point and how it evolved as the film went on. It was painted out quite plainly more than once.

Gun control just shouldn’t be a message talk about and it worries me we might soon see shit as stupid as abortion debates in kids cartoons becuase people won’t just let kids be kids and enjoy their youth.

Read the thread, bro. This is either people trolling or people legitimately misunderstanding very basic plot points.

Always put your family first

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It just looks really stupid in stuff like 616 where teenage girls with the ability to fry your brain with a thought is A OK but a flatscan with a glock is pure evil.

I picture most here either:
A. Were glazed over one way or another when they watch said show/movie and just plug in the missing parts with asssumptions
B. The read a wiki and it thread and now talk about something they have never watched

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Most things in Marvel are stupid because they try to make their world exist in ours so you see super death viruses cured and watch tech that can super heal limbs be used, yet cancer is still a thing.

Feeling Pinkie Keen from the colorful horse show

those girl were made the way they are by a flatscan with a glock

You always put family first!
Gravity Falls worse lesson is definitely
"Flirting is bad'

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I think they actually explain that they can develop the cure for cancer easily, but

A.) Guys like Richards are literally paid off by the government not to introduce his super tech cause they are worried it will ruin plenty of other business like oil companies or the pharmaceutical industry

B.) the villains are petty shitheads.

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Its more the execution then the message itself admittedly but yeah flirting one was bad, why does this show have a big fandom for all its strikeouts I got no idea

>You always put family first!
Nah, Mabel is still a selfish cunt who would never do the same for Dipper.

People can love something warts and all. Nothing is perfect.

>reed richards is paid off by the government not to ruin things for oil companies and big pharma

Wow, what a great hero.

sometimes its also brought up that
C) the technology behind it could very easily be altered to be used for far worse evil and the inventor hasn't figured out a way to make that impossible.
I think it was in Planetary or something they discussed that anything capable of rapidly curing cancer can 10 times out of 10 be used to created a gene bomb capable of wiping out the entire species

>why confront bad ideas and prove them wrong?

That’s literally what Kubo did. The Moon King told him that he had lost everything and that the world was a horrible place, and Kubo proved him wrong by showing that just because his family’s dead their memory stays with him

Jasper was a botched concept from the start. Easily the weakest part of SU.

This. Didn't Faust even apologise because the moral was supposed to be about respecting other people's beliefs, but it came across to almost anyone who watched it as faith > rationality.

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>that 87 TMNT episode where some guy genetically modifies vegetables to grow fast and enormous
>"We gotta stop him because all these farmers will lose their jobs!"
Capitalism went through the roof with that one

Timing was also bad. Dipper was getting over Wendy. So it came out like a lose lose situation for Dipper. Either get hung up on a girl that doesn't work or get screwed trying to talk to other girls

Yeah this one gets on my nerves every time

Basically anti GMO propaganda before that became a thing

>you must despise yourself so after that you can improve
The entirety of /r9k/ disproves that theory.

i was checking the thread to see if this had been mentioned. Yes, even the writers knew this was bullshit yet they had to do it as it was a direct order to include that.

Fairly Oddparents - Timmy learns that everyone he knows would have better lives if he never existed.

They never even implied there was anything wrong with the vegetables themselves. It was literally just, we need to hamper progress to maintain the flow of capital.

>I cannot for the life of me imagine how frustrating as writers it must have been to be told to include a character as part of the main cast whose sole purpose was to push such a wrongheaded "moral."

here, from Mark Evanier's blog:

>The kids were all heroic — all but a semi-heroic member of their troupe named Eric. Eric was a whiner, a complainer, a guy who didn't like to go along with whatever the others wanted to do. Usually, he would grudgingly agree to participate, and it would always turn out well, and Eric would be glad he joined in. He was the one thing I really didn't like about the show.
>So why, you may wonder, did I leave him in there? Answer: I had to.
>As you may know, there are those out there who attempt to influence the content of childrens' television. We call them "parents groups," although many are not comprised of parents, or at least not of folks whose primary interest is as parents. Study them and you'll find a wide array of agendum at work…and I suspect that, in some cases, their stated goals are far from their real goals.

(1/2)

2/2
>Nevertheless, they all seek to make kidvid more enriching and redeeming, at least by their definitions, and at the time, they had enough clout to cause the networks to yield. Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: The group is always right…the complainer is always wrong.
>This was the message of way too many eighties' cartoon shows. If all your friends want to go get pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to the will of the majority and go get pizza with them. There was even a show for one season on CBS called The Get-Along Gang, which was dedicated unabashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever member of the gang didn't get along with the gang learned the error of his or her ways.
>We were forced to insert this "lesson" in D & D, which is why Eric was always saying, "I don't want to do that" and paying for his social recalcitrance. I thought it was forced and repetitive, but I especially objected to the lesson. I don't believe you should always go along with the group. What about thinking for yourself? What about developing your own personality and viewpoint? What about doing things because you decide they're the right thing to do, not because the majority ruled and you got outvoted?
>We weren't allowed to teach any of that. We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.
>What a stupid thing to teach children.

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>They wanted to promote groupthink as a high virtue. So there would be this one character who would question the group and would ALWAYS be wrong. He was there to show kids how wrong and bad it was to think for yourself or to question the crowd in any way.
Sounds real ahead of its time.

>worst lesson a show has ever pushed
that homosexuality and transsexualism are pure, natural, acceptable and biological concepts that society and children should tolerate, respect, accept and emulate.

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>genetically modifies vegetables to grow fast and enormous
Sounds like cancer in every bite.

>legit anti-GMO retards coming out of the woodwork

Jesus Christ, I don't have the shadow of a doubt that all this shit is very likely still happening today.
>As you may know, there are those out there who attempt to influence the content of childrens' television. We call them "parents groups," although many are not comprised of parents, or at least not of folks whose primary interest is as parents. Study them and you'll find a wide array of agendum at work…and I suspect that, in some cases, their stated goals are far from their real goals
I want to know who these people are and what they stand for.

Because now they've move on to more fucked up shit

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Simpsons HAS had a few bad ones over the years

>The immediate happiness of a baby is more important than the financial security of your whole family's future

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Stand by what I said family first

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People are inherently good and not fucking evil monsters.

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Recently enough there was the Big City Greens ep where instead of letting the police relocate a wild bear that had wandered into the city, Cricket and Tilly run through the city with the animal and eventually leave it to live in the sewers

That’s like, shockingly bad ecological practice. Maybe I’m just missing the irony and it’s supposed to have been presented as a bad choice?

Fucking this, they ruined a perfectly kino movie in the last 5 minutes

>Guns bad

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Iron Giants kamikaze
you have access to a plethora of weapons and you go full kamikaze on it

The ending was hardly the worst part of the film in my opinion

>Absolute brainlet too stupid for a kid cartoon.
Yea Forums‘s new banner.

>world peace is bad because muh retarded freedoms
justice lords were in the right on that one since the american version of freedom is retarded

Hitting the missile from the ground would have either been next to impossible or would have still lead to massive destruction or fallout

And being close enough to hit it while still high up would still have probably blown him apart

This is some retarded shithead villain speech shit

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It’s a double edged sword. Anyone who thinks otherwise has simplified the topic.

>we need to hamper progress to maintain the flow of capital.
It’s a more sensible reason than most anti gmo lobbyists have.

t. antisocial threat to society

This is a movie, but
>asocial people are only the way they are after experiencing something as traumatic as watching a loved one get murdered
>it doesn't matter how correct their fears about real dangers are or how helpful their preparations were, they will always be the broken person who is afraid to participate in group activities until we can convince him to get over it and start singing fucking Justin Timberlake
It amazed me that you can still get away with this crap message in 2016.

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No

Why appologise for being right

>start singing fucking Justin Timberlake
The minute I heard Justin Timberlake was signed on I knew he was going to sing. All the trailer and watching the movie, look like he wouldn't. When he finally sung, I laughed out loud. Of he sang, the temptation was too strong not to have Justin sing in an animated movie.

Besides the point I thought Justin did a good job, up until the twist.

Of course*

>the special interest groups that were pushing groupthink, anti-drug, anti-sex, messages in the 80s are the same people pushing tranny shit today

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No, if you despise yourself you just wallow in your own misery and spend all day crying and wasting your time with escapist media and/or drugs

retard

>Our flaws make us special, we should accept them and not strive to improve!
Another moral from the colorful horse show

Holy shit imagine admitting to being a Christcuck on 4channel

The published journal ep? Doesn’t their song include lines about being works in progress?

Women are better with dicks (size inverse to their height)
Men are better without them
Disprove me

Fuck you’re right, I’m an idiot

I kinda liked it that episode, It has its charm.

Having solitary hobbies is bad and enjoying something is akin to letting it consume your life completely.

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>violence solves nothing
why do people insist on pushing this shit in real life too, trying to be non violent and relying on teachers, staff, and the school to help stop a bully doesn't do anything. the only answer is the desk and hard books they gave us

I know some of the characters can seem frustratingly tied to personality gimmicks (Pink horse) but the show usually does try to say that working to be better is good

I find the episode where pink horse is playing an obnoxious instrument and gets depressed when told to knock it off much worse. Instead of just telling her to play where it doesn’t bother people or her realizing that hobbies need to be enjoyed with respect to those around you, the other horses resolve to just bite the bullet because it makes her happy

When was the last time you were in school?

From what I can tell it was at its worst in the 70s and 80s, mostly because nobody respected animation back then. The people working on the shows really had no way of fighting back because up until 87 or so it was insanely rare for someone who worked on a cartoon to be able to become a producer. Most of the time shows made back then were created by businessmen, not artists or writers

7 years ago

>anti-drug, anti-sex
You must be brain damaged as fuck, like momy was taking meth and cocain when pregnant kind of brain damage, because.
>We weren't allowed to teach any of that. We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.
if you think 1980's gang where anti-sex and anti-drugs you are seriously a fucking moron and I want you and I to take a moment to try to convince you to kill yourself, you'll do your community a huge fucking gift by offing yourself.

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I disagree. I used to flirt girls in my english classes when I was a freshman at the university and It really helped me to gain more confidence, to get higher grades, and get over a girl.

I really liked the first half of the episode because those were thing that I actually aplied IRL, but then they go with "flirting is bad".

It's a family comedy cartoon you autist. Not everything has a real "lesson".

Are you fucking stupid.

imagine being genuinely offended on Yea Forums because someone say something you don't like, I bet you call people normal fags and spam "get back to /pol/" too ... fucking mainstream fedora cancer, get back to Facebook.

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Okay but I’m actually an idiot for believing Enter’s interpretstion of the moral

The 'white lies' episode featured in numerous cartoon shows.
Instead of teaching kids to tell the truth, demand the truth and accept even ugly truth the writers claim that lying and being lied to is fine or even necessary for having healthy relationships with other people. We could avoid so many problems irl if people wouldn't tolerate bullshit so much.

Its the social contract, we fake niceties to protect people,

>I really liked the first half of the episode because those were thing that I actually aplied IRL, but then they go with "flirting is bad".
Kinda insulting that Dipper the protagonist of the show get's the shaft. Even the whole "who are these girls" part could be explained easily if Dipper didn't lose his spaghetti.

Also Mabel dropped the ball hard, for not even giving Dipper any hint about Candy.

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>What’s the worst lesson a show has ever tried to push?
"Good guys always win."

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Who the fuck said that? Certainly wasn't anyone in the show.

The message wasn't that you should never try to improve, it was that sometimes obstacles are too big for you to be able to face them alone and you need to allow other people to help you overcome them.

The main obstacle was Jasper herself but both she and Amethyst were also dealing with issues around self loathing and acting obsessively and self destructively because of it. Amethyst beat Jasper and was able to start getting over her insecurities and loving herself when she accepted Steven's support, but Jasper succame to corruption because she allowed her self worth issues to reach a point where she felt broken and worthless and refused the help she needed to start accepting herself or moving on from the past.

Amethyst could never train enough to become as physically strong as Jasper, but she improved herself by becoming more confident and mature.

>t. Offended

Thanks for spelling it out in a way I couldn't. Pretty much every character in the show improved from where they were at the start, what a dumb thing to say.

This. Most people, like it or not, simply can't handle the truth

Accept society's view and role on yourself

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Oh fuck, who do I have to kill to make this stop?

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I actually remember that one Winnie the Pooh special about strangers addressing something like this. They start out saying the typical stuff about dealing with strangers (saying "no" and shit) but there's this one point where Roo asks about what to do if a stranger tries to force you to come with them to which Tigger straight up tells him to resort to violence. And he's not portrayed as in the wrong here, a fucking Winnie the Pooh special was willing to tell tiny kids that violence sometimes IS the answer.

Hollywood, I mean the city as a whole.

Unironically ignore it. The great thing about capitalism is that if nobody likes something it goes away

Id say California as a whole but its mostly Los Angeles

Not when someone pay to insert this shit in your entertainment, like gouvernement, "Affirmative social groups" and other sort of cancers who get their money by donations or sometimes straight out of the Pocket of the tax payers

unironically yourself. You cannot stop it.

The issue with teaching kids about violence is that there's a lot of moral ambiguity to it. At what point does it go from self defense to becoming a threat yourself? That's a question most adults don't even have an answer for, let alone kids

Hahahah you wish, nigga

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immigration

I think the gun should be aimed at people like you generaly and it should be done in a way that people will look at the action of the killer and his motivation and say.
>Yup, he did what had to be done.

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No, I think they'd look at it and either run away screaming or call the police.

>LMAO just ignore bullies and theyll stop bullying you
oh fuck, youre the reason were in this shit

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what did he say?

Chief Gobbledigook

but what if god said:
>"Fuck society's view and unrole yourself lmao!"

Jesus, that sequel was fucking garbage

This guy reminds me of when Yea Forums got invaded by fucking tumblr, instead of following Yea Forums's elitist way, you niggas followed Yea Forums's "ignore it and it will go away" instead, then somehow it came as a surprise to you this place turned into literally pure unfiltered shit

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Homosexual men are GOAT. Look at the stats and you'll see they're the fittest, wealthiest, and least abusive of all the sexual orientation (sure they act like freaks in parades but outside all the one's I've met are really cool).
I don't support or like that show. All I'm saying is you can't stop it.

>"Dear princes Celestia, today i learned that its ok to be a piece of shit if im a piece of shit with my friends. Your faithful student, bitchtits"

I literally befriended all my bullies growing up.

>"they act like freaks in parades but outside all the one's I've met are really cool"
Literally "Works on my machine" tier comment

>"Don't hit a girl because they're girls."

One could make an argument depending on which society they live in but fuck this lesson so much. Look how goddamn equal we are.

This is kinda true. I was friends with a lot of bullies and all of them had asshole parents.
you ever talked with a gay person?

>If you leave your game world it will literally collapse because the fabric of reality becomes unstable
>It is k to do if you really wanna do it i suppose, fuck other people i am sure something will work out in the end
>Oh look it did, what a surprise eh

>you must despise yourself so after that you can improve.
That goes literally against improvement, if you despise yourself, then you arent going anywere beacuse you dont think you can.
"You're good, but you can be better"

Why yes, user. I do talk to myself in the mirror how did you know?

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>Queer shows are Yea Forums's fault
No

That's why they should be taught how to deal with it in the first place. Many things could have been improved if people started accepting each other's honesty.
I guess having everyone so protective of their feelings that they would rather be lied to makes them easier to manipulate and that's just too powerful of an asset to squander.

It's okay to be an psychopathic asshole if you had a hard life or suffered from ~~trauma~~.

What's wrong with hearing your parents? They are literally your autorithy, if you challenge the autorithy, you're going to get fucked up.
I can understand in abusive parents, but i think that's a minority

>muh moral ambiguity
if you aren't baiting violence, but violence comes to you, anything you do is correct

Not that user, but there are so many good animations that are not recieving the attention that they deserve because people is bitching about the shitty reboot of the season or the newest "queer inclusive LGBT+" show.

If you only focused on the shows that you like this place would be so different.

Yeah I don't think self defense has been treated as a bad thing in many shows.

Yea Forums declined way more than any other board though. They unironically like shonenshit now, with the big three being among the most popular shows on the board

You can't gatekeep an imageboard. Anybody can post anything they want, and you can't do shit about it

these arent bad lessons tho

WiR2 should have been a spinoff instead of a direct sequel, maybe have THE Ralph show up for a cameo at one point but that's it

Yea Forums literally declined because moot forced his narutard shit down Yea Forums's throat though. It went down honorably though the quality is subpar now Yea Forums is still heads above other boards

How the fuck am i going to focus when Yea Forumsmblr wont shut about it? news outlets, twitter and every fucking paid agency to promote the fucking show everywhere is talking about "Ass Drawn Trans: The super LGBT show!"

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Is it really that bad? I haven't watched it yet but heard nothing but mixed things about it.

Your argument is the same as those pacifists who think violence is always wrong.

It doesn't matter if people SHOULD be less sensitive, because they aren't. Practical reality always trumps abstract morality

>board about japanese anime from the country of Japan, a country known to be xenophobic and proudly secluded from the world, also secludes themselves and disapprove external views from other boards
yeah, im thinking Yea Forums is based

Please never have children.

It's ok to keep a pet rat and give everyone the plague.

That and it's warm when the sun's out despite snow being laid around.

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I wonder if my soul would be worth some Alf pogs.

When has Flapjack ever been about teaching morals?

if anything he shows what you shouldn't be doing.

Maybe you can, I don't know, stop browsing forums and social media and only look for the comics and toons that you do like?

Nah, you gotta hold out for the real deal

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>can I see your friend Flapjack?
>uhhhh, why?
>I wish to cut him open

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Is there even a moral in Flapjack? I thought it just was wacky adventures in a pirates-victorian setting.

>Use democracy as a lesson
>Democracy sucks because everyone else gets mad about the outcome
>"Ok then, fuck you everyone. Im painting the fence with everyone's shitty opinion so everyone is fucking wrong but validated"

fuck that episode

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>Richards
>hero

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Sorry for what

I can smell your neckbeard's sweat from two miles away, M'incel.

For leaving his job half done

>Democracy sucks
I don't see any problem there, boi.

>It is okay to be mediocre if you try your "best"

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That brainwashing torture is a more acceptable punishment than death.

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Exactly. Lying is comfortable, convenient and even profitable. Who cares about improving the community when it's so easy and so advantageous to abuse it.
Violence is actually a good comparison here. There are genuinely necessary applications for it but using it all the time for everything is definitely not right. And yet some people do use it a lot as easy short-term measure for problems that would take too much effort to fix.

>a cartoon has the audacity to say that a different form of media is pretend
>a cartoon
>which is pretend people doing pretend things
lol

>instead of following Yea Forums's elitist way
Fucking moefags I swear

>rape is not the answer to all life's problems.

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No brainlet.

Most nukes, especially cold war nukes, are atmosphere burst. Fat man and Little Boy didn't hit the ground and explode, they exploded miles high because increase the shockwave.

He would have had to bullseye the nuke before it hit the atmosphere. He misses once and they're all fucked. Tackling it was his way of making sure he got it.

>thinking Evanier's gangs comment was literal
>thinking parentgroups were pro gang violence
>implying anyone affiliated with street gangs would be pro tranny or even able to discern them from normal fags
>calling me retarded
You have to be 18 or older to post here.

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Guns ARE bad you caveman.

Why do you atheists get so butthurt over everything

This thread is full of absolute edgelords.

You aren't a man unless you carry. A man has to be able to protect himself and his people. If you're unarmed you're a weakling trusting to others to save you (which they won't. Observe how long it takes police to respond to school shootings).

Welcome to nu-Yea Forums, where everything is /pol/ and the mods couldn't care less.

We could stop those kids from getting guns in the first place

Oh yeah, because every Tom, Dick and Stanley carrying a gun maked.me feel so safe. Neanderthal. How's it feel to know the next presidents going to dismantle the NRA?

>thinking Evanier's gangs comment was literal
>We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.
What gang does black people joins usually?
>thinking parentgroups were pro gang violence
>there are those out there who attempt to influence the content of childrens' television. We call them "parents groups," although many are not comprised of parents, or at least not of folks whose primary interest is as parents. Study them and you'll find a wide array of agendum at work
What parent group are you talking about exactly?
>implying anyone affiliated with street gangs would be pro tranny or even able to discern them from normal fags
What does the B stand for in LGBT?
Are you familiar with a group (gang) called Black Live Mater?
I heard they've killed a police officer or two.

>calling me retarded
I also talked about convincing you to kill yourself, I think we should go to that part now.
Tell me about your parents and education, what reason do you have to come on Yea Forums?

You can't. They've had gun attacks in Paris. If people cant' use guns they'll use cars or knives or bombs. If a person wants to kill someone they will find a way.

Trusting only the police to have guns means waiting thirty minutes for them to come and bag and drag the body of your child away.

If the idea of your neighbors having guns frightens you then your neighborhood probably has greater issues to work through.

If gun control works then explain how Washington DC has so much gun violence when it has the strictest gun laws in the country?

>Next president is going to dismantle the NRA
Bump stocks aside Trump hasn't gone hard against guns.

Can I use them to protect myself from the rich?

>Neanderthal
You know how a woman can equalize the physical gap between herself and a man? A firearm. You seek to take that away from women. Now you tell me who is the neanderthal.

Christ, the newfags are really shitting up this board.

In what context?

>What does the B stand for in LGBT?
Bisexual.

>When someone who discovered Yea Forums last week make a post

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kcra.com/article/graphic-video-mom-fatally-shoots-gunman-trying-to-rob-families-outside-school/20693513

You want to prevent this mother from defending her children and their school. You are evil.

Always remember to new accept dirty money, even if it could help you and your loved ones in the long run

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Ment to say never accept

>Look at the stats and you'll see they're the fittest, wealthiest, and least abusive of all the sexual orientation
Sure they are

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>calling a 2004 meme a 'tumbler meme'

Thanks, I was seriously asking for this one kek.

Fuck this but specially fuck them when they later joke about "Im not taking your dirty money" and keeping the money.

The furry acceptance episode of OK KO.

>calling me retarded
He's not wrong. Evanier is obviously referring to cliques, not actual streetgangs.

Damn, gay men are fucking chads, slaying ass all over the world while some others can barely get any. Brand new respect.

The backstory of Goku

Steven Universe's message about how nobody's just a straight up bad person and how friendship and love and all that faggot shit can save everyone is fucking insulting. It's basically just Wander over Yonder if it was written by stupid people.

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Is it because no ones ever tried rob help you and you’ve never bothered to try changing?

It's almost like it's escapism or something.

Yes, except from:
>Jasper
>Aquamarine
>Topaz
>Navi
>Eyeball
And WD because they won't stop consuming planets because their race needs that to subsist.

Examples? I can't think in anyone right now.

>because no ones ever tried rob help you and you’ve never bothered
this is your brain on SU

A world without lies would collapse in on itself because everyone's opinion is different and they won't tolerate different opinions.

>between 24 and 96
Boy, I sure can tell that this isn't a fake infographic from /pol/

>A world without lies would collapse in on itself because everyone's opinion is different and they won't tolerate different opinions.
That doesn't logically follow, user.

People just can’t be 100% honest all the time, a society like that wouldn’t survive, or least suck ass

>baseless armchair psychology

Not an argument. It's terribly written.

>Jasper comes back in the finale anyway
>White Diamond gets welcomed with open arms, implying that they'll have the balls to have her go back over the deep end and treat her as a lost cause
>Treatment of three minor characters is reinforcing the main point of the show and not the fucking forgiveness pity party of the finale

You guys are hilarious, imagine defending fucking Steven Universe

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Sad but true. A lot of the time it's just necessary to be polite and bite your tongue in order to maintain relationships.

You can honestly tolerate an opinion you don't agree with, user. It's not hard.

You didn't have an argument in the first place, stop projecting. Rebecca has said the whole thing is fantasy and wouldn't work IRL but don't let that stop you from being wrong.

That's literally not a moral or a lesson. When offered the money, Lisa is unsure and asks her mom. Given the ethical complexity of the choice, Marge just tells her to do what she thinks is right. Later, Homer himself tells Lisa that while he respects her choice, they could really have used the money (and he has multiple heart attacks over it).
It is not a black or white matter and it is not presented as such.

>What does the B stand for in LGBT?
>Are you familiar with a group (gang) called Black Live Mater?
>I heard they've killed a police officer or two
I don't know what exactly your endgame is at this point user, but I respect your willingness to look this retarded for a laugh.

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>the puppet has been brainwashed but not his dude
top kek never noticed before

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it's a shit show with hack writing and people eat it up because they've invested too much time into it to admit the truth

deluded

>pulling the ends of the spokes
Is this an expression? Never heard it before.

>whole thing is a fantasy and wouldn't work IRL = it's okay to have no fucking point to the show besides pandering to sad sacks that can't handle it when they get their lunch money stolen
>projecting

Alright well good to know that I can just write some retarded shit and it'll be okay because it's escapist, thanks user

>What does the B stand for in LGBT?
>Are you familiar with a group (gang) called Black Live Mater?
LMAO

Nah, YOU can't. Nothing you do will ever be as important and as notable as Steven Universe. I can see why you'd hate it so much.

You know what else isn’t real? Aliens made of light?

This thread is a dumpster fire.

How To Train Your Dragon 2, Hiccup's mother is a deadbeat piece of shit who abandoned her family for no good reason. She's forgiven. I hated this shit so much I refuse to watch the third film. Garbage film series.

Also any time a piece of media presents women as everything they have never been is a horrible thing. The fact is that women aren't smarter than men, women aren't friends to men, women have no loyalty to men, women do not love men, women are not Men with Tits, etc. So many terrible falsehoods designed to indoctrinate and deceive boys.

That was never the intention of the episode you tard

it doesn't mater what the guy who wrote this meant exactly by saying "gang" He could have said a clique, a group, a gang, an organisation, a social entity, whatever else the fuck you want to call it, the idea is to influence childrens into joining them regardless of what they are once they reach the proper age and that include street gangs, it could also include fucking commie institutions, political parties, again, whatever the fuck you want, take your pick if you don't like the street gang exemple.

It's a faceless concept and moral programation aim at young people to create what we essentially call here "NPC". Apply this shit to every groups in a society, poor people, rich people, people of different ethnic background and you have a sort of engineering being done, that's what I'm saying ... retard.

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That shit always bugs me so much in wily coyote

H A M F I S T E D

>brainwashed
lobotomized
also commedy gold

This poster is unironically an incel.

>Yea Forums's "ignore it and it will go away"
what the absolute fuck are you on about, Yea Forums has always responded to things it didn't like with anger and shitposting

Yea Forums doesn't like anything though.

But user - Insanity is defined as doing the same thing twice and expecting different results. So if something doesn't work the first time, never attempt it again unless you're crazy.

>follow your dreams instead of getting a degree of an in demand job
lmao liberal art majors

go back to facebook, christfag

>Between 24% and 90%
What a useless statistic.

>>why confront bad ideas and prove them wrong?
Have you truly watched the same movie I did? Kubo cannot just beat the bad guy so he CONFRONTS it's ideas and PROVES him wrong.

>Why not erase a villain's memory?

Fellow masters of the Jedi Council, I've just come up with an original idea for dealing with Revan!

he showed kindness and forgiveness to an old man who thought the world was devoid of it.

Are you mentally addled? The whole point of self-improvement is that you love yourself and because of that, you want to be better than you are.

Growing up, I actually have Eric as my favorite character?
Precisely because he is an asshole Paladin that just wants to do whatever, but it always blows on his face. Sure the moral is rotten but to the writers credit, they always knew how to make interesting the amount of bullshit this character had to face.
From Night Hags masquerading as hot princesses to him trying to become goblin royalty, it was always something wild.

>s-so what? y-you've never made anything that people like
Word for word, the same thing every single time.

Kill yourself libtard.

how is heterosexuality less pure compared to homosexuality? straight men are most perverted and sexually violent people out there and they hurt women with their perversions and sexual violence. ( and inb4 that one lesbian study, no,what the study found out wasn't that lesbians have highest rates of domestic violence, they found out that women who are in relationships with women have high rates of violence with ex MALE partners meaning that either bisexual women face lot of violence from men or that bisexual who face violence from men are more likely to date women later in life)

I'm not saying that you should be a dick about it, randomly blurt out people's secrets or abuse truth in other ways. I'm just saying that you shouldn't feel intimidated to offer genuinely helpful suggestions when asked. That's basically how these episodes frame the issue anyway - a character asks for an opinion and expects a favorable answer rather than an honest one. They don't seek improvement but validation.
I actually recall cartoons that did this differently, e.g. a person got mad at first but then she realized that "the dress did make her look fat" and that she made a total fool of herself when she decided to go out like that. Being able to take people's advice into consideration (you can still disregard it if you do know better) is a sign of maturity.

see and so many serial killers are gay? really now?you really think there really is more serial killers that target men than serial killers that kill female prostitutes?

>you really think there really is more serial killers that target men than serial killers that kill female prostitutes?
Not him.
But the large majority of homicides victims are men.

You think majority of homicide victims are victims of serial killers you absolute fucking retard? Majority of those men are killed by their drinking buddies because they were pissed off that Danny took their last beer or some other dumb shit like that

Citation:
UNDOC Homicide Statistics 2013 used tables: Homicide counts and rates & Percentage of male and female homicide victims
Gibbons, Jonathan (2013). "Global Study on Homicide" www.unodc.org. United National Office of Drugs and Crime (Vienna).

Oh, straight talk. Yeah I think that's a good sign of maturity in the right situation.

>You think majority of homicide victims are victims of serial killers you absolute fucking retard?
Why on earth would it matter if they're a serial killer or not?

>Majority of those men are killed by their drinking buddies because they were pissed off that Danny took their last beer or some other dumb shit like that
Begging the question pretty hard here.

How equal we are? If you hit a girl in real life whether you're a boy or an adult man? What will happen is WHITE KNIGHT FAGGOTS will come and fight on behalf on "milady" and they will beat you up and white knight faggots attack in numbers. You're not going to be dealing with one, but likely 2 or maybe more. Fucking bastards. This whole Defend The Wamen bullshit is why any given country turns into a shit hole.

And I mean it, you see this bullshit even in anime. One of the main reasons I got tired of anime is seeing annoying cunt female characters beat up the male characters and nothing happens to them after they attack a man who didn't do much of anything, most of the time nothing to deserve being attacked by some cunt.

As far as I see it, female characters and women in real life deserve to be beaten if they start shit. And any defenders of women must be rounded up and given the honorable treatment of being castrated and then have their foreheads tattooed with the following words "White Knight Faggot" so that the rest of society sees them for the pieces of shit that they are and other men learn that they better keep their white knight faggot behavior in check because that's how they'll end up if they act up.

Gee I don't know maybe because I was especially talking about serial killers??? And honestly, do you think that there is more likely to be gay men serial killers, even though there is less gay men than straight guys, that straight guy serial killers who have easier time killing female prostitutes that no one will miss?

(Btw, you think majority of male homicide victims were killed by their male lovers and not some guy robbing them or killing them when they're on drugs or some other shit like that?

And you should have been aborted.

>do you think that there is more likely to be gay men serial killers, even though there is less gay men than straight guys, that straight guy serial killers who have easier time killing female prostitutes that no one will miss?
No. I don't think that, because I'm someone else. I specifically said I wasn't him. I'm not the one saying gay men are more likely to be serial killers.

>Btw, you think majority of male homicide victims were killed by their male lovers
No. Again. I'm clearly not the person making that claim. Statistically, the vast majority of homicides in the US are typically unplanned, spur of the moment involving either someone getting REALLY pissed off, or to cover up a crime such as a burglary, robbery or mugging.

For reference, according to the radford university/fgcu serial killer database, 48.6% of serial killer victims are male. So it would appear that statistically victims of serial killings are fairly evenly split.

>48.6% of serial killer victims are male.
Still not the majority!

This was never my contention.
Seems like an odd hill to die on to me.

Not to defend this mincing bitch, but before anyone replies to him, watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k
Because shit like this is what he's on about and there is a problem with it.

No one cares about the opinions of an incel.

Every cartoon had that one episode where one character starts a successful business and career, and for some reason becomes mean and nasty to all their old friends. There would always be some line about "becoming something you're not" and "forgetting where you came from." By the end of the episode the character would be brought back down and everything would be okay.

I never got this message, even as a kid. Especially growing up in a poor family that encouraged someday finding a well paying career and getting out of the shit. I was happy for characters who achieved financial success, especially if it was through their own creativity or ingenuity.

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Wow, all the power you can exercise on the world, and it does literally nothing. Pathetic.

>how is heterosexuality less pure compared to homosexuality?
many reasons that are very obvious and that would go over your head even if I took the time to explain you, so I won't even bother with that.

>straight men are most perverted and sexually violent people out there and they hurt women with their perversions and sexual violence.
I don't know if you're fucked up in your head or just a huge hypocritcal bitch.
But are you REALLY trying to convince people that THIS is not perverted and doesn't lead to violence?

Here a question for you, what is Male on underaged Male sexual abuse for you?

Right? Some anons said that honesty is bad for relationships but when you use it respectfully people open up to you, seek your advice, don't hesitate to provide their own input and feel comfortable having a discussion with you in general. You're not just nodding in agreement, you're a real person they can interact with.

It's an Indian tv show.
Not exactly a stellar example of healthy culture going on.

This is literally the PPG Clown/White Bear argument again

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Remember when SU had a character suddenly get a ton of money but they actually held on to the money by the end?

I criticize SU a lot (though I genuinely enjoyed it as a show) but I gotta say I kind of love how Greg becomes rich and it's never really brought up again.Greg doesn't even buy a house because he's satisfied with his life. It was a nice little quirk for the character.

It also was a handy plot point if anyone ever needed to justify affording something expensive like travel or new furniture.

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Plus you get funny gags like when he plays tennis against Garnet on the weekends because it's a "rich people sport"

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Greg is basically one of the best examples of a positive male role model on TV at the moment.
He's kind, good hearted, not shown as a bumbler, is happy with his lot in life, supportive of his son.
And hung enough that it killed a god.

>gay people are bullies because they are on TV
what?

>policemen and firefighters are the real heroes

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>Money cant buy happiness
the fuck it couldn't
Im more happy now that im rich than i was poor

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Every time I read an edgelord comment like this, I pray to God a rescue worker or officer just fucking nopes out when you do actually really need their help. Just the thought of you fucking faggots and niggers actually dying to your own hubris fills me with glee.

Firefighters kinda are

I’m not white so you don’t need to pray for it, that’s just a thing that already happens

Don't ever be proud of yourself, ever. You're garbage.

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Well, I was in a pretty good mood until you posted that. Between this and the ten-year-old drag queen posing with a naked man, I'm actually shocked at how fast things are going downhill.

Mark my words, within 15 or 20 years pedophilia will become normalized. And it will start with teaching children to feel empowered about their sexuality.

I wish I could return to the 80s...

Money can't buy happiness, but not having enough of it sure as shit means you can't afford it.

You can't possibly kill enough people to stop it. There is no section of society that can be isolated and purged to put an end to it. You could, at best, slow it down, but you would only spread misery and chaos in the process, or, even worse, make these people seem like sympathetic victims, rather than the monstrous perverts that they are.

It really gets to me, you know, how society has become so perverse, and paranoid that we can't trust a grown man around children, and then people turn around and make things LIKE THIS!

It makes no sense. There's no logic or consistency. It's all insanity.

Hollywood's just a tourist trap. You'd accomplish more nuking Burbank or Santa Monica.

Everyone

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It needs a qualifier, definitely.

>Money can't always buy happiness
>Money can't buy all forms of happiness
>Sometimes you may think you have bought happiness, but have not

>tfw there are unpaid firefighters but no unpaid cops

That should tell you everything about who the real heroes are

Cops aren't legally required to help anyone, not in America, so posts like this are pointless.

I hear that

If the thing that was the most notable and important in my career was fucking SU I'd hang myself

>There will always be someone better than you

I just consider this message in general to be extremely pessimistic since there are other ways to be better than someone and its not impossible to be the best at certain aspects

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Not impossible, just realistically impossible.

Fine.

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Oh please, as if you're not minutes away from doing that at any given moment anyway. More projection towards SU.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z4OhbzSFpnk

Lies fix everything then.

Faust should have shut the fuck up, and not given the fedora people any attention.

And they were not really correct there.

BEAUTIFUL PROGRESS

Homer was in the right at first--if you get nothing from going to church and want to explore your spirituality in some other fashion--knock yourself out. Except that Homer being Homer, he immediately just took to slothfulness while both (borderline) mocking other people of faith and acting like he was actually trying to attain spirituality by sitting around the house doing nothing.

The house fire and being saved by Flanders of all people was a matter of hubris.

If Homer just didn't believe in God and openly said so, rather than hiding behind an excuse not to go through the motions, then he'd be free to just be a slacker, but I think the point is more about "if you honestly want a religious experience you have do DO something and not just hide behind a false front"

This false front/idolatry angle has been explored in other episodes, like the stealing cable one, the Movementarions ep, and even when Lisa became a Buddhist but they definitely botched that last one all the fuck up.

>ad hominem disguised as armchair psychology

Yikes!

>If Homer just didn't believe in God and openly said so,
Does Lisa still girl to church pretty sure she's 20 years deep into being a Buddhist. Which is a big deal for a 9 years old.

>Projecting this hard

I felt like out of all the kids, Eric actually gets a few hand outs by demonstrating legitimate courage and heroism at times--which comes off as *more* impactful because the dude just really wanted to go fucking home.

He had no stake in the world beyond not being *too* much a shitty person and helping both himself and the others get home, so when he actually sacks it up and tries to help save the day then it comes off as more meaningful.

Not that I'm arguing the point Evanier made--because some of those moments Eric has are still "he comes around to the group's thinking" but I would love to see a revamp of this series where while he's still the complainer/outlier more often than not, every once in awhile his stances are either proven right or having a little cynicism pays off in the end.

Amazing. High-art. I'm not even sympathetic to clown-posters, but even I feel like I'm living in Clown World most days.

Some people would kill for that level of job security now

Get fucked, idiot

...I always felt like dino guy should have just put an ad out into the paper promising to cure people's cancer by turning them into dinosaurs.

There would HAVE to be at least dozens if not hundreds of takers.

I think Lisa is one of those people who believes you can be a Buddhist and a Christian at the same time. Maybe it's true, I don't know enough about Buddhism. But you can't be a Christian and a Buddhist at the same time.

Scalies lined up around the block.

>Finally found a job with a company I can see myself staying with long term.
>Great benefits plus free lunch
>Graveyard gives me time to work out and go back to school
We are all going to make it bros

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“Take the guns first, go through due process second.”

I felt like that episode was fucked up because Lisa had legitimate reasons to want to quit going to *that* church. Apart from Lovejoy being a horrendous bore, Burns had corrupted the place.

Why wasn't Marge also getting mad and bailing with Lisa? She maintained her faith and saw through the Movementarians horseshit and what Burns turned the church into wasn't even trying to be subtle.

So Lisa giving up and Marge being all "No, you HAVE to go!" just felt all the more out of character and poorly written.

That's because it IS straight out of 1984

Sounds like Tigger. What a fucking G.

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That's because most "bullies" are actually just dudes busting balls and having a laugh. Unless they're physically messing with you, the best thing to do is learn to launch shit back at them and take it all as a joke.

Unironically the best episode of all time.

I mean, if you're being kidnapped, they say you're best bet is to do everything you can to prevent yourself from being taken to another location. A squirming, biting, kicking kid may get killed, but if he gets taken away, he may face a fate worse than death.

Kiiiinda? It depends on which branch of Buddhism you believe in; it doesn't actually have gods so you're not in violation of the 1st commandment if you want to learn and apply some of its philosophies to your own spirituality, but you would still have to put God first if you're being entirely technical.

The funniest part of SU is that Steven was willing to talk and compromise with genocidal space tyrants, but he has nothing but sheer hatred for the local Chad because he had the audacity to flirt with a girl at a party

>Neither a borrower nor a lender be.

My main issues is that the meta logic for SU doesn’t even make sense.
>Gems are effectively immortal
Outside of propagation they don’t have a real reason for the empire. Biological organisms reproduce because of their mortality to spread their genes to the next generation. Other than just having a planet to penetrate for the sake of it, Homeworld doesn’t need to reproduce.
>They’re low on resources
Because they’re Space China. Literally the only reason homeworld is all broken up is because they kept “breeding” for the sake of breeding. In fact we see several gems like those wall gems who are effectively superfluous and worthless as you could of just made the structure out of normal rock like they did on other planets such as Earth.
>They’re not wrong for their actions
Gems are effectively insects, especially bees and ants. They have no real sense of family or identity outside of their queens and the few that do are shattered. Steven may have fixed corruption but I doubt a gem who’s friend was shattered over this mess would forgive the Diamonds short of Steven mind controlling them. Even then Steven would only do it because it makes him and the Diamonds feel good not because it’s the right thing to do.
>Throw Tantrums and Guilt people with your Suicide and is how you solve everything.
This is the real issue of SU. She might dress it up in garishly girly neon pink but Rose’s/PDs actions coupled with Steven’s “birth” is the most edgy and crawling in my skin bullshit imaginable. Instead of facing your actions you dick yourself to death and leave all the responsibilities of your bullshit to your friends and child. Considering Sugar’s OC when she was a teen (pic related), she just dipped a linkin park album in cake and called it SU.

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>God's not real Morty, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP
>School sucks Morty you don't need it *BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

Escapism is a HUGE part of Steven Universe. There's an episode and a song called that and Sugar brings it up in every interview. The show makes no goddamn sense if you don't look at it from that angle.

With exception of one person, by the time I graduated high school, I either got on good terms with the people who used to bully me in elementary school, they dropped out, or they moved away. As for the exception, I not only didn't come across him until middle school, but he also continuously started fights with literally everyone, and he eventually got jailed after arsoning the town.
>inb4 storytime
If I posted enough info for it to make sense, I'd end up getting one or more people doxxed.

Besides the second one, which even then if its for a show that's for extremely small children then it's fine, none of these are bad lessons, you contrarian.

Whatever problems anyone might have with SU, Greg makes up for it. He's a straight white male who killed an intergalactic dictator with his cock and the show is still called SJW.

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Stop saying rock people, it's offensive >:(

Rock people.

Greg killed a rock.
With his cock.

Also that was Zuke, she really was the worst thing. Literally so bad that in the end Sugar had to get rid of her for being too much of a politics pushing cunt. That's how bad Zuke was.

She was very funny though. "Log Date" was hilarious.

This, so much fucking this, I'd unironically rather die slowly and painfully if the only other alternative is mind rape.

>AM I DOIN IT RITE FELLOW ANONS?????
>NIGGER NIGER FAGGOT HITLER DID NUFFIN WRONG
>HA M""""""LADY

somebody put in the Kingdom Chums VHS for this degenerate retard.

That your mother doesn’t sleep around which, as we all know, is a gross misrepresentation of the facts.

in the episode where she becomes one she reads a line about no creator gods and she immediately announces she's a buddhist so it seems a bit unlikely though im sure the characterization might have changed a bit over the years.
It was wierd thought cause even in the episode she was just praying not very long ago and it didn't really show her doubting iirc, she just kind of jumps into it.

which girl got sent to hell and why
also yellowquiet was right

>How's it feel to know the next presidents going to dismantle the NRA?
Eh? But Trump isn't going to touch the NRA?

>she just kind of jumps into it.
She's 9. I'm sure if you look up the vegetarian episode it follows the same pattern.

More to the point, it teaches a lesson in selfishness to say these things. The world is made up of more than 'you', and you have to share space with many other people. Filtering yourself isn't a matter of hiding. It's a matter of granting others a piece of space to share with you. You give a little. They give a little. That way everyone gets along as a group. Being yourself without compromise is just taking up as much space as you can for you and only you.

People give a little for your sake every day in ways you don't realize. Returning the favor is fine. There's no shame in it. Just make sure you aren't doing it out of shame itself.

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Zuke was the absolute worst at everything. There was an immediate drop in quality the moment she joined the show, and an immediate rise the moment they kicked her.

That one Loud House episode where Lincoln is picked on by a girl and the message was "if a girl hurts you physically, humiliates you, harasses you and generally hates our guts, that must mean they really like you!" I think what pisses me off the most is that people actually believe this. I remember as a kid my mom told me, "oh a girl messing with you? That must mean they have a crush on you!" Even at that time, I knew that was bullshit. How autistic do you have to be to the point where you don't know how to express your true feelings to someone? It was just an unsatisfying episode in general.

Chicken Little

The strong should rape the weak. It was some kind of chinese cartoon.

Probably that episode of Captain Planet that advocated for genocide. It's doubly bad because of how heavy handed Captain Planet can be.

So Fu-Manchu hitler makes another appearance?

All this talk about Mark Evanier not liking conformity and no mention of these guys?

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The moral in Flapjack is that good parents like Bubbie shouldn't let their kids hang out with degenerate pieces of shit just cause their kids like them

>Girls are just as good as guys.
>At everything.

Stop trying to force this shit.

Suddenly so much shit makes sense

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Well the weak can't very well rape the strong now, can they?

That there is quitter talk. You get your ass down to your local sketchy urban gentleman and get you some Rohypnol. You'll have both of your hands in /fit/'s pants in no time.

I think user's referring to that weird ass episode where Wheeler hit his head while wind surfing and woke up on Rat-Lilliput island (no, I swear to god I'm not making this shit up) where tiny rat-people lived and the quality of life was shit due to over population (and yet somehow a human 20 times their size was able to walk all over the damn place without crushing hundreds of them.)

It was like one of three episodes of a cartoon aimed at kids trying to teach kids the message that people shouldn't have alot of kids because kids consume all the earth's resources.

I mean, use a condom, whatever, but this felt like the very wrong place to spread such a message.

That's...huh.
I wasn't sure what to expect but I guess that sounds about right for a captain planet episode.

I have heard there's a third of these, but the only other one I know of is a fast-forward ep where Wheeler has a dream or goes into the future or whatever where he and Linka had half a dozen kids and Kwami chews him out for it after they run the stupid asshole ragged because the kids consume too many resources.

Again, it's fucking bizarre.

his dad taught him not to be ashamed of his dick

that wasn't moral of the story

most of shows now worships sex... unless it's sex between man and woman

Even Jesus said this was nonsense.

>34“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Based God Incarnate

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>why does this show have a big fandom for all its strikeouts I got no idea
It really didn't drop in quality until the last quarter

Don't be selfish

I find that most "you're perfect just the way you are" lessons come off as if they're saying you shouldn't try and improve yourself ever.
I just think it's a very bad and demonstratively untrue lesson for something I see in shows all the time.

This one is the most recent to me. Jesus that was one heavy-handed episode.

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>Roadside Attraction
What was even the intended moral here? Don't flirt?

>it's a shit show with hack writing and people eat it up because they've invested too much time into it to admit the truth
You tend to exaggerate

Especially egregious in Doug where he's constantly daydreaming.

Did Regular Show's "Video Game Wizard" rub anyone else the wrong way? We're expected to see Mordecai as an asshole because he would rather have Skips as his partner in a video game tournament than Rigby, his best friend. However, the only reason why Mordecai did this was because he wanted to win the power glove so that he and Rigby can share fun times together. Despite this, Rigby throws a tantrum throughout the episode over something that he shouldn't have taken personally because if he's really that bad at video games then he shouldn't be participating in an important tournament out of some "muh friendship" principle. What's even more confusing is that while Mordecai tries to defend himself with this reasoning when Skips calls him out, the only counter argument Skips offers is some cryptic "are you sure you're going on about this the right way?".

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>The same people
Nope. They are not.

Tsundere faggotry is one of those things that is absolutely prevalent in both Yea Forums and Yea Forums.

But it's 100% correct

No you fucking retard. You are still talking about loving others when the post was about loving yourself. Completely different things.

homosexual=/=faggot

I'm not a vegetarian myself, but resolution of "Lisa the Vegetarian" always felt very weird to me.

Like, instead of learning that meat isn't murder, she learned to respect other people's murderous habits. They just bully her until she makes peace with the fact that her family is unrepentant murderer, nobody ever suggested that meat isn't murder.

I thought the overpopulation episode was a dream/ future timeline episode where Wheeler and Linka have a ton of kids, and everyone has a ton of kids. Everybody having too many kids was wasting resources and reducing the quality of life. The supervillains were running businesses unopposed by the Planeteers, and every one including Captain Planet was just tired and lazy.

It totally worked though.

>why confront bad ideas and prove them wrong?
>why confront evil people and defeat them?
>why not just erase a villain's memory? Program them with lies into believing they were good all along. Evil defeated 4ever!
>Pic related

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No, a reset button would be transforming them into a baby/little kid or something - like what happened to Meteora or Pride from FMA. What Kubo did was just mindrape.

He has no control over the weapons without reverting to CRUSH KILL DESTROY mode. The only battlefield function he has conscious access to is flight, which he used to destroy the nuke.

>asshole grandfather plucks out your eye and murders your mother and father
>you strip him of his immortality and give him Alzheimers

Sounds like a fitting punishment.

I think this quote was really too advanced for anyone at the time to understand, it was a sorta contrarian attitude way ahead of its time. Like preaching about the virtue of revolution to cavemen almost.

The show IMO sort of fails its message catastrophically because for all its preaching about compromise and changing one's ways- Steven never compromises ANYTHING throughout the show or gives way. He doesn't even sacrifice a little, he's just always right and others accept that universally, and when he talk no Jutsu's others to his side they treat him like a saint who showed them the error of their ways.

It's patronizing as hell, obnoxiously hypocritical and beyond fucking stupid.

>Homeworld doesn’t need to reproduce
I mean no lifeform NEEDS to reproduce really.
It's just biological instinct.

Eh, okay yeah I guess you're right.

It's just like if he was turned into some kind of weapon/ally for the protagonist that'd be really fucked up and taking it too far. It'd be outright villain territory.

Things need to reproduce because they're on an astronomically small timer and need to continue their existence somehow. We have never seen a Gem die or even degrade from old age, and it takes tremendous effort to even pose a threat to their life. I think they ought to be okay with sitting out the reproduction rat race for a while.

>Uuk gurh Guns bad!
Please don't ever breed you brainwashed cuck.

Nobody NEEDs anything because there's no objective goal. You just happen to desire to reproduce, because your ancestors did and those who didn't want to reproduce couldn't be arsed to be your ancestors. And even then I'd say many don't really want to reproduce, they just want to rub genitals with each other and sometimes baby comes out of it.

But there's no objective goal or anything, just instincts and rationalization.

That's not how biology operates on an ontological level, lol. It's not like any creature that suddenly became immortal would just, lose the desire for sex or reproduction. It has nothing to do with resources or what their lifespan is. Maybe you're thinking of it overly rationally and in terms of how a society procuring their survival might think, but the Gems and Diamonds are driven more by hivemind/insect like instincts rather than any higher rationality or reasoning.

They reproduce because that's what they're programmed to do. It may not be effective but that doesn't really matter. Cancer and Viruses are also technically immortal- they're not going to stop reproducing because of that fact which they're entirely unaware of, however.

>The world is made up of more than 'you'
Not from my point of view, it literally is not.

What SU actually teaches everyone is no woman, nor ROCK can withstand the cock.

"If you're unhappy with your life, just kill yourself, you'll make everyone around you happier."
I don't care if it's a parody, that is the absolutely most terrible FOP episode I've ever witnessed. What the fuck.

Look at the green text in my first post

If your only argument against the need to reproduce is "well the universe doesn't SAY you gotta do this", you've forfeited almost all of the argument in favor of pointless semantics. Powerful and widespread subjective needs are as close to an objective need as one can get, and animals choosing not to reproduce just demonstrates that those needs can be ignored. You're also completely ignoring the practical argument that Gem reproduction is catastrophically damaging to whatever it occurs on, and that Gems have no time or resource pressure to reproduce, especially compared to other lifeforms.

It's ok to just do what you want without need to justify yourself by some objective higher purpose, you know.

Post parody morals now
>I guess crying does solve your problems after all
>You should stay in an abusive relationship because the abuser needs you in their life

What the hell even is your argument? When the other user says
>And even then I'd say many don't really want to reproduce, they just want to rub genitals with each other and sometimes baby comes out of it.
They're referring to how reproduction is a process of chemicals in your brain attempting to orgasm and do things, not intentionally create babies. Animals have no desire for this sort of thing, and cannot even conceptualize it, to them there's no difference in mindset of fucking then eating and don't expect a baby to come out anymore than the result to be shit leaving their rectum later.

But they're driven because they're evolutionary priorities have them programmed that way. Because their reproductive parts are not smart, things like 'resource scarcity' or social pressures don't even factor into the desire or lack of it at all.

You're trying to apply reason and anthropomorphic principals to pure instinct.

I'll make sure to watch the news for when you kill someone.

is Santa Claus a white lie?

>By the end of the episode the character would be brought back down and everything would be okay.
This tends to happen in real life though. When someone who isn't experienced with money randomly comes about a shit load of it, they blow it all and lose it faster than it came. See: the lottery

Humans are the real monsters.

Fat men who visit small children are very real. Except instead of gifts they give them hepatitis.

>Togaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaashi

Literally who.

Laughing at all these pussies that whine about the Diamonds, Did y’all get pissed when Marvin the Martian destroyed all those planets and kept on living?

>y'all
opinion discarded

Your post is pure cringe.
The only good thing your gun's ever gonna do is blow your brains out, small dick incel retard.

>Show made by christians to appeal to other christian families
>Talks about aspects of christianity
God forbid

You kinda can though. Buddhism has a lot of branches, and a few of them (the older ones really) don't focus on the religious aspect at all.

I know a lot of Christians who actually identify the Buddha as Christ since their message doesn't contradict each other at all.

No one's telling anyone to emulate anything. Everything you said is fine, historically prosecuted for retarded reasons, and the average person with an IQ surpassing a potato knows this already.

Only retarded faggots with a boner for the objectively worse 'good ol days' have a problem with this.

>tfw they all showed up at the same time

It was like an awful sitcom cliche only played 100% straight holy moses

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Hey, Firefighters are cool you fucker.
American police on the other hand, yeah they're the worst.

People think it's a race thing but that's factually untrue. If you met any policeman in America no matter who you are you'd know they're just horribly incompetent.

I feel like 90% of the character development in SU goes over Yea Forums's head.

>that homosexuality and transsexualism are pure, natural, acceptable and biological concepts that society and children should tolerate, respect, accept and emulate.
that pic can't be real

How about the one where they become furries then discover once you cross that line there's no going back, you just have to pretend to be normal for the rest of your life.

That was about time management, not saying VIDEO GAME BAD. The problem wasn't the game, it was that Doug was unable to set limits on himself and make time for writing his paper on silt. How could you get that wrong?

Who said that?

>explain how Washington DC has so much gun violence when it has the strictest gun laws in the country?
Because people just buy the guns in South Carolina.

What is your job?

I know plenty of miserable trust fund babies. Money is not a guarantee of happiness.

That was the second one. The first one involved the rats.

I heard from *somewhere* there's a third, but I didn't see it.

But yeah, it is really kind of ignorantly twisted to pitch this as a recurring theme to kids.

Yeah. Lisa was *mocked relentlessly*, put under surveillance, and Marge later openly admitted to putting beef broth in all her vegetarian food, calling her choices a "phase."

Lisa was right to apologize for the BBQ incident, but holy fuck, she sure did get backed into a corner and damned if anybody else wouldn't have snapped.

Steven has had to grow up in multiple ways through the show; the 1st episode version of Steven would not have been able to confront/defeat White Diamond without the whole fucking series of development. He's had to reconcile with Connie for his wrong choices/choices that hurt others, he makes mistakes but the part you're missing is that through the entire series he cleans up, or really tries to cleanup, his own messes apart from Kevin but fuck that guy, he ends up miserable by his own hand.

Seriously, he was the only Crystal Gem who felt bad and tried to make things right when the team damaged the Pizza place. Everyone else just shrugged off any collateral damage to the town as long as nobody gets killed.

>within 15 or 20 years pedophilia will become normalized
I don't see it though. Pedohysteria is at it's peak right now.

>it's a goo idea to give up your individual identity to collectivism bc racism or some shit.

That is the actual fucking message they were trying to push.

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When has Rick and Morty ever been the show to teach moral lessons?

Guns are tools, they're neither bad nor good. It's all in how you use such tools. Violence is in human nature, so is creating tools to improve efficiency of whatever you're doing. Removing weapons from availability will do nothing about human impulse for violence, neither will it stop people from creating their own weapons. Guns are merely our latest iteration of ever improving tools for violence. Violence is what drives our entire culture and evolution, and as such we have respect for it. Herbivores don't have this culture of violence, they are violent for no reason, they'd kill you if you look at it wrong. Predators don't kill unless their life is at stake, if they must eat or defend themselves. And humans will not often kill even then. There are exceptions but that's how it is. Violence is a virtue, and tools for violence see sacred.

Any emmy bait Family Guy episode like Screams and Silence of Brenda Q or Bank Vault

>Bullies are only acting out because their life at home sucks
I mean some times but like 50% only if even

I hate defending R&M, but that wasn't the message at all. You're making philosophy from a fairly simple joke.