What is the worst golden age Simpson's episode?
What is the worst golden age Simpson's episode?
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I have no idea why people like the monorail one. Conan O'Brien just wrote 4 episodes and in each one of them it really shows that he was a outsider in the writers room, i know he is funny, but he don't really get what the appeal of the series was
The Michael Jackson one, because even if MJ didn't play himself, the whole thing plays out like a zombie Simpsons episode with everyone on the show sucking the celebrity dick for this episode and this episode alone.
All of them.
>The Michael Jackson one, because even if MJ didn't play himself
That was the best fucking joke you could make about a celebrity guest.
Shut up Bush
Homerpalooza or the Spinoff Showcase.
monorail
Not them but you missed the point of their post. Like, a complete woosh.
The one where Otto loses his job and moves in with the Simpsons. Not necessarily bad (there are no truly bad golden age episodes imo), just extremely forgettable and odd that they gave Otto of all people their own episode before many other notable side characters. As far as I know, Otto has never had an episode focus since then.
The only memorable gag from that episode is Skinner trying to drive the bus.
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You missed the point of HIS post
You could take it as a normal celebrity dicksuck, but it's more than that. It's a dicksuck with heart, because at the end, it's still sincere, regardless of who's behind the voice
I still kind of liked the monorail one but I definitely agree with you about O’Brien. The characters all seemed much more flanderized in his episodes, it’s much more noticeable in the monorail one because it’s the ENTIRE town instead of just Bart and Homer.
>not liking the spin-off showcase
What are you?
If s10 is counted, The old man and the c student is the worst (some people consider s10 golden age)
Everyone did love MJ at the time though.
Do people remember anything about the episode where Marge becomes a cop?
CAR HOLE
The Front. I keep forgetting it exists
You Missed the baby, you missed the blind man....
Oh no! A counterfeit jeans ring operating out of my car hole!
Forget about the badge! When do we get the FREAKING GUN?!
The second clip show episode. The first one had some funny bits of its own in the new parts, but the second one was really JUST the family responding to a possible fourth child with 'remember this' the whole way through.
I’ll give you a hint
It has the word Marge and Train in it
The one where Homer was in a 90s alternative band
>Golden Age Episode
Front's pretty bad with how much of a nothingburger the ending is.
All I remember is the dig at John K. and this scene
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The Secret War of Lisa Simpson
Yes, and it was awesome.
I just came here to post this god tier fanart.
The correct answer is Marge be not Proud
>lisa and milhouse
What? I don't remember that one. What fourth child? Are you getting it mixed up with "I married Marge"?
I'm watching it again right now, not sure what's so bad about it.
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I don't see what's wrong with the monorail episode. RIP Phil Hartman.
I don’t know if Season 1 counts as golden age but the one where Bart goes to Paris is pretty unfunny.
It had two proper clip shows, so probably those ones
It's hilariously outdated because nobody under 50 remembers the "old Albania".
The one where bart shakes up homer's beer is great though.
I remember old albania and im under 50, but i am a serb
Yeah, specifically Lisa redpilling me on cops
It has one of those words.
Everyone who counted loved MJ at the time.
The Twisted World of Marge Simpson.
it had the feel of the newer episodes.
Does the Golden Age start at Season 3? Or is is anything before Season 9?
If it's the latter, than Season 1 is still the worst Simpsons season by far. And the worst episode is probably the one with the criminal babysitter.
Wasn't the second clip episode the "Failed Romances of the Cast"? user's right; I Married Marge is the one where they dangle the prospect of a fourth child over the plot.
Oh yeah, I hated this one. It didn't have an actual conclusion. It just...sort of stopped and everyone being so cruel to Marge always felt spiteful for the sake of being spiteful.
Nah, this one is great
>You mean the mob only did me a favor to get something in return??
This is the correct answer. Everyone in town either ignores or hates Marge and she ends up looking really stupid more often than not. Also, as pointed out; it just kind of... ends. No resolution, no moral, just gang warfare on the front lawn.
I will never understand the internet’s hatred with seasons 1 and 2. They will always have a soft spot in my heart because of how quirky they were and how downtrodden the town was. Springfield wasn’t some idealistic little American town, it was down on its luck and faded well past its glory days. The denizens were a little melancholy and/or downright scumbags. It was so entirely incongruent with other cartoons at the time, and arguably since.
Dog tracks, dive bars, crumbling senior homes, a leaky nuclear facility and a dilapidated underfunded school we’re just a few of the local spots. The Simpsons eventually softened and the people and places were made a little cleaner but I prefer the seedier early seasons, with season 3 being the best of both worlds.
Homer’s Enemy
It has a similar mean-spirited vibe that a lot of the newer episodes have. Everyone is a buffoon with no redeeming qualities and nothing about the episode was enjoyable. Even Frank calling everyone out was shit because the joke turned on him. Hell, even the funeral was lousy and mean.
>mean-spirited
Fuck off Enter
Women always have trouble with the wall. They never seem to find the door.
I hate the one where Homer jumps the gorge in Bart's place. Maybe because it was played all the time and I got sick of it.
I feel like Homer's Enemy was bad, but it was more of a Precursor to the worst, a literal hint of what was to come. It still took its time setting up the "jokes" and had actual plot progression that ends on a big middle finger. If it had just been this one, ultra mean spirited cruel joke episode, well... the show had done Shaggy Dog or Shoot the Shaggy Dog jokes/stories before, so it could have just been an anomaly.
Twisted World of Marge Simpson, on the other hand, created the formula of your typical zombie Simpsons problem. It hits the ground running with an opening "plot" and the spitefulness comes out of nowhere (part of the point of Grimes *was* that life was pointlessly cruel to him, comparatively; it at least had a reason) and just keeps doubling down on the spitefulness while the plot keeps shifting focus from radically different beats. It presents ideas or issues that are dropped when the plot segue ways into different beats; by the time the Yakuza and Mafia fight each other, the whole food war is sidelined, and again, NOTHING is resolved.
Homer's Enemy stuck to a progression that while it ended like shit, was not a slap-dash story that keeps changing focus and taking a plot from one point to a completely different, random one where the comedy just falls flat.
it's funny you PUSSY
>ignoring 1st and 2th season
>ignoring fillers like Another Simpsons Clip Show and All Singing, All Dancing
The forgetable one:
Much Apu About Nothing. The Canine Mutiny,
Bart Star, Dog of Death, Duffless
The zombie feels like: The Twisted World of Marge Simpson, Homerpalooza, Girly Edition,Realty Bites, Das Bus, Miracle on Evergreen Terrace
Honoraly mention most of Lisa episodes: Summer of 4'2", My Sister, My Sitter, Lisa the Simpson, Lisa the Vegetarian, The Secret War of Lisa Simpson, Lisa the Skeptic
Unpopular opinion but I like Principal and the Pauper if not for how Kafkaesque the whole premise is.
There's two episodes which are just clip shows. That's it. One is about love, the other is about musicals.
Some people do but I feel its generally accepted that season 2 is where the show really takes off
The musical one is pretty great considering that you couldnt just look that shit up on YouTube at the time.
I remember noticing that was the first time elements of the plot started getting blatantly impossible
This is a very good point, I often see people point to homers enemy and the principal and the pauper as big turning points but the twisted world of marge Simpson might be the biggest one.
Do the clip shows count?
Not sure if it's considered "golden age" but for me it's Fear of Flying.
Please no meat-touching, ma'am.
I love everything about this post and the fact that you made a convincing argument using the phrase “dicksuck with heart.” Is the reason I still use this site. You’re a cool guy user.
>2th season
They really liked Otto, early on. He frequently showed up in episodes as a "cool" loser adult that Bart could relate to and ask advice from. But after that episode, they realized there wasn't much to the character and felt burned out by him. Unlike when they gave Apu an episode and realized there was plenty they could do with the character, as an immigrant, as a Hindu, as a swindler, as an educated man, etc.
Basically, they should have made Otto Jewish. The military father angle doesn't work great, but a disappointed Jewish dad would have been fantastic.
>Gloria Vanderbilt, out for revenge!
The 90s were the Simpsons' golden age.
Homer was in that grunge band, in the 90s.
It all checks out.
I liked it too, but it definitely fucked up Skinner's whole character that had been built up to that point. I think that's more why people point to it as the tipping point for the downward slope of Simpsons episode quality
There's a good difference in quality between S1 and S2 though. S1 while not devoid of it's own charms is clearly still finding its footing. S2 though is witty as all get out.
If anything I'd discount Season 10 right off the bat before I did Season 1 let alone 2.
That and you're crazy, Much Apu about Nothing is hilarious and more relevant than ever.
They must have felt they already explored that with Krusty I guess.
Bart sells his soul and Itchy &Scratchy the movie.
Homer was way out of character in the Itchy & Scratchy episode
Y'know, I caught that clip when I was a kid, and ever since then that scene has always been in my mind. I never bothered to look up the original clip; I just remember it happening and that was enough for me.
Fear of Flying. The Canine Mutiny, Bart's Inner Child, and, excellent ending aside, Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala-D'ohcious.
They stand out like a sore thumb in their respective seasons because of how lackluster they are compared to what's surrounding them.
>Homerpalooza
I agree with this one.
Bart's Inner Child was an amazing first act but yeah it's all downhill from there.
>people remember anything about the episode where Marge becomes a cop
I remember it because as a kid I had no idea who Gloria Vanderbilt was
The first 3 seasons are amazing. Most people got attached to S4 onwards when the show became most cartoonish and gag focus
Marge on the Lam
>Springfield wasn’t some idealistic little American town, it was down on its luck and faded well past its glory days.
This is what I liked of S1-2. It was a contrary to Bedrock. While Bedrock in The Flintstones was a small comedic town, Springfield was a hellhole like Detroit
I'm really surprised nobody said Marge in Chains. It is honestly the most "Nothing" episode of the Golden Age, even with "I'M NOT WEARING A TIE AT ALL."
>Fear of Flying.
I still love this one. LET ME OFF LET ME OFF
Two episodes were written by The Critic's staff in Season 6. The crossover, which I like, and then there is 'Round Springfield...Its not without its moments (and I like the ending) but you can tell the staff are outsiders to the shows humor. Way too dumbed down.
I only really like this episode for the cleavage, that is all really
Going to see the bear ride in the little car huh?
>using and capitalizing TV Tropes
In what universe is Season 14 golden age?
I think that was the point. He finally put his foot down in the most dickish way possible.
>Conan O'Brien just wrote 4 episodes and in each one of them it really shows that he was a outsider in the writers room
It was a meme from the Usenet days where people acted like Conan was a supergenius who wrote half the episodes in the series and it went to shit when he left.
A lot of the more memorable jokes from New Kid on the Block were so, so obviously Oakley & Weinstein.
You mean that vehicle for Harry "Celebrity cameos are ruining the Simpsons" Shearer to plug his Spinal Tap VHS?
Matt Groening came up with the idea of ending it with the Mafia fight because none of the writers could figure out how to close out the episode.
The Old Man and The Lisa. Lisa in full-out college activist jackass mode and this was around the beginning of when they started changing Burns from supervillain to senile old guy.
That was kind of the whole point of the episode.
It's mostly just forgettable, which is usually what qualifies as "worst" in terms of the classic era and not "painful and I want to die after watching this episode" like the recent episodes tend to bring on
As for my least favorite? Fear of Flying.
I don't like My Sister, My Sitter. Bart and Lisa are so unbearable through the entire episode and you just want to punch them.
Seasons 1-2 don't really have that postmodern humor of the later seasons.
Homer VS Patty & Selma, just forgettable
I dunno. On the one hand, it's a Marge episode, and those are usually among the weaker kinds of episodes barring Lisa episodes, even in the classic era.
On the other, it's still funny as shit in many areas, and gives Ruth something to do instead of just being a background character model they put into crowd scenes.
NOW i get it. i just thought they lost the copyright or something.
Krusty was always kind of my least favorite of the major secondary characters, probably because they tend to use him as a vehicle for satirizing the entertainment biz which I'm sure in LA is something close to their hearts, but I don't care for it or find it relatable.
Marge Gets A Job is one of the episodes everyone seems to forget existed.
S11E5
No way, that basketball gag is gold. Plus Lionel Hutz babysitting.
A weak episode, but Worth watching alone for this bit
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The Last Temptation of Krust is kind of the perfect example of a self-indulgent episode that only people in LA can relate to. Although it's really not that bad compared to Zombie Simpsons which goes 100x harder with circlejerking the whole LA/celebrity/California yuppie lifestyle.
SNEEDS FEED AND SEED
Man Yea Forums really went down the shitter. At least there’s fewer cunny threads I guess.
>Honoraly mention most of Lisa episodes: Summer of 4'2", My Sister, My Sitter, Lisa the Simpson, Lisa the Vegetarian, The Secret War of Lisa Simpson, Lisa the Skeptic
The striking thing about these episodes is that all the good jokes and memorable lines in them involve characters other than Lisa.
>Das Bus
Literally all the good jokes in this one came out of the B-plot. The A-plot was so unbelievably boring.
And more focused on satire/lampooning pop culture.
The animation got less interesting as well.
I think one problem that contributed to the show's decline was losing Doris Grau halfway through Season 7, they never had a good script supervisor afterwards.
The War of the Simpsons. A-plot is very boring and dire, B-plot is mean-spirited as fuck.
I don't like Home Sweet Home Dum Doodley and I never have.
Itchy & Scratchy Land
Shit is just too..surreal and doesn't feel at all like the Simpsons.
Why does nobody seem to remember Separate Vocations?
The first three were closer to Matt Groening's original vision for the show.
Whichever episode comes to screeching halt for the writers to hebraically screech about fans not liking an episode on the internet.
When is it agreed where "golden age of the Simpsons" ends? Season 5?
Wasn't that Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie?
*2rd
Homer Goes To College was really the first episode to get a widespread negative fan reaction.
Lady Bouvier's Lover. Grampa and Marge's mom's relationship is just a vehicle for some gags and there's no depth to it.
This is a bit random, but what do you guys think of the simpsons ride? It was made by James L. Brooks and Matt Groening.
>Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie
Yeah, it was. It's a great episode otherwise, so the perceived need to directly and unamusingly comment on irrelevant usenet criticism was just bizarre, Streisand Effect before the term was coined.
>Written by David X. Cohen
> Bart: Hey, I know it wasn't great, but what right do you have to complain?
Comic Book Guy: As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me.
Bart: What? They've given you thousands of hours of entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe you? I mean, if anything, you owe them!
Comic Book Guy: ...Worst episode ever.
>oy vey you owe us goy
Comic Book Guy was originally a one off character in Three Men and a Comic Book who was based on some surly comic book store owner the writers encountered in LA. Then you didn't see him again until the Oakley & Weinstein seasons when they resurrected him as a way to beat up on Internet Simpsons fans.
That was a big issue that season. A lot of the episodes in season 8 start off well and then end in stupid shit like apes capturing Ned, a spontaneous dance party or phony kidnappings.
Wrong. You're wrong. Not going to explain why but you're wrong. Okay kid? Wrong.
Bill Oakley did say he thought the second half of Season 8 was kind of meh.
I don't know why they were so triggered over Usenet posters back then.
He was already becoming an irrelevant weirdo by that time.
Hmmmmmmm I dunno about that. The second half still has Homer's Phobia, Brother from Another Series, Eighteenth Amendment, Homer's Enemy and the Spin-Off Showcase (although admittedly the last one has some mixed reception from fans but I liked it). That said, fuck the Canine Mutiny so hard.
>The second half still has Homer's Phobia
Ok.
>Brother from Another Series
Ok
>Eighteenth Amendment
I really don't like this one that much.
>Homer's Enemy
The concept is interesting although I can see why people would hate it
>and the Spin-Off Showcase
Wiggum P.I. was the only bearable part of that episode.
Shaggy Dog Story is a term that was coined well before TV tropes existed, dude.
>I really don't like this one that much
I dunno, I think Rex Banner is perfect.
>I can see why people would hate it
I view the episode in a vaccuum isolated from any later seasons. Some people don't, which I can understand, but generally the fans do love it.
>Wiggum P.I. was the only bearable part of that episode
Yeah I can see why you would say this one at least. I'm not gonna defend it because like I said, opinions on this one is very mixed, but at least they tried to do some new things with it. God knows how many times they've recycled the "Homer gets a job", "Moe tries to get a date" or "Lisa takes up another cause" plots. It also gave us the line "I've suffered so long, why can't I die" which is maybe one of my favorite Simpsons lines ever.
Whacking Day. The entire episode felt like a weird drug hallucination and I wasn't too keen on the "Faster. Then slower." thing.
Sideshow Bob Roberts not because the episode is bad but because it's essentially impossible to discuss on Yea Forums.
As far as comedic value these are two of the funniest episodes ever. At the same time I can see how the humor doesn't really fit the Simpsons.
Saturdays of Thunder
I'm going to say it was And Maggie Makes Three. A lot of people think this is a classic because the ending was touching, but the episode is actually quite bad and back when it first aired in 95, it was strongly criticized by Usenet Simpsons fans.
Radioactive Man was not that well liked back then either and a lot of people were confused about the animation (protip: it was an early experiment in digital coloring)
I never figured out if Homer's Barbershop Quarter was supposed to be canon or not.
Bart the Daredevil because it inadvertently started the idea that showing Homer getting injured was funny.
Either way, Baby on Board is a hit
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Secrets of a Successful Marriage
The Cartridge Family
One of the all time greats right here
Nah too many good quotes/jokes in it.
Season 11 Episode 5
It was much easier pickins back then as very few people had the internet, even fewer posted about the Simpsons, and even fewer were so ACKCHYUALLY level nerds, plus the writers were people who had actualized lives and could handle criticism and had the acerbic wit to skewer the critics, not get "triggered". It's like when the Animaniacs made fun of the fat nerds posting about slight inconsistencies in the show while their mothers asked what they wanted for dinner, it was a different time with different stereotypes.
Formerly The Simpsons family
E I E I (annoyed grunt) is the best one.
Everything but season 11, episode 5
Since I'm assuming golden age=Seasons 1-9, then Natural Born Kissers. The humor was too dry and the ending with Marge and Homer landing in a sports stadium stupid as fuck. It was clear that they couldn't do anything too edgy or outrageous with a nudity-themed plot that was already a bastard to get Fox's approval for, so you're left with some ho-hum "Marge and Homer try to avoid being seen" thing.
Dude, this sneed thread is super comfy
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Golden age is usually put at 3-8, Silver includes 2-9, and Bronze at 1-10/12
Agreed
If you want to watch Homer and Marge sucking and fucking then just look at Rule 34 for the Simpsons you dumb incel. The FCC won't let them show it on TV.
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SNEEED DO FEED DO
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fucking sneedshits spreading beyond Yea Forums
This episode falls apart because of the utter sloppiness of it especially how in the flashback they didn't de-age Bart and Lisa.
formerly confined to Yea Forums
Actually Golden Age Simpsons starts at Season 11 Episode 5 and ends right before Season 11 Episode 6. Silver Age Simpsons is before Season 11 Episode 5 and Bronze Age is after Season 11 Episode 5 but before the Simpsons Movie.
This episode fycks apart because of the utter seediness of it esneedially how in the flashchuck they didn't de-age Bart and Lisneed.
>The FCC won't let them show it on TV.
You guys do know the FCC hasn't regulated OTA broadcasting since the 80s or something, right?
They formerly did, though.
I preferred the place back when it was called Chuck's Seed and Feed
wrong image bud, meant to post this one
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sneed's feed and seed
Formerly chuck's
HULLO FRM Yea Forums!
That wasn't the point though.
Formerly Yea Forums
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haha epic meme. ''sneed'' haha look I posted it again haha
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haha epic sneed. ''sneed'' haha look I feeded it again haha
this but unironically
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>that episode
>classic Simpsons
this but youthoughtitwouldsaysneed
Formerly comfy
Sneed
Some say that "Hurricane Neddy" is one of the best episodes of season 8.
Needless to say I don't hold it in high regard at all.
Ever since I saw it I can't escape the feeling that it was the start of Ned's Flanderization.
Except for Jon Lovitz (he played on The Critic), I thought his cameo was great.
Didn't like the rest of it though.
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sneeds sneed & sneed? i dont get it
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Mr. Plow is overall a strong episode but like some other Season 4 episodes has a bit of unnecessary "Homer/Marge talk dirty with each other" in it.
fake moeposter
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What kind of product is sneed, is it a feed product or is it somethin you fuck with
Chuck's suck and Fuck
Feed me seed me don’t you ever sneed me
Cuck me chuck me don’t you suck or fuck me
Sneed's Feed and Suck
who is sneed tho
Considering the background of the episode for me it's "Lisa The Vegetarian"(s7e5). How can the creator make her so unlikable in one episode? Unlike before she turns into a preachy brat. Can't see why anyone in their right mind likes this episode. Know-it-all characters are far from endearing, they're annoying.
The Simpsons is now a wacky SOL like Nichijou.
What do?
All i wanna seed is that moe don't really care about Chuck
SNOOD
the seed and feed man
Sneed is now a wacky SOL like Chuck.
What do?
>ugh what could have been...
FUCK AND SUCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
based and chuckpilled
EVERYCHUCKY GONNA HAVE A FEED TIME
Mr. Sneed is overall a strong episode but like some other Season 11 episodes has a bit of unnecessary "Chuck/Sneed talk dirty with each other" in it.
Feed it!
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Ohhhhhhh FUCK AND SUCK!
are we being raided?
Sneed is the stupidest meme to ever come from this website and that is saying something
That's the boomer/zoomer garbage,
Judging by the post times, it's clearly a bot and not one autist doing this manually.
>"I think I'll donate a million dollars to the local orphanage"
>"When pigs fly"
You literally cannot discuss the Simpsons on Yea Forums anymore. This fucking sneed meme dominates it. Maybe our plight will be given some notice because of this.
The cancer has spread
I unironically miss the Bane threads
I don't disagree but I really liked some of those gags
>Oh Montie, you are the DEVIL!
>WHO TOLD YO- I mean...
>usenet criticism
Does anyone remember what were the usenet guys complaining about ?
This is the same shit, this is baneposting 2.0 and everyone who just tolerated or even enjoyed it is complicit, fuck you.
sneed
Started with stuff like this. James L. Brooks said he really appreciated "people seated in front of a computer screen" who completely misinterpreted the entire context, message, or point of episodes and accused the writers of pushing agendas they weren't actually trying to push.
The best/worst part of it is that neither of the two characters in the meme are actually meant to be Sneed/the store owner. He makes a pretty hard to miss appearance just seconds later where he tells Homer he can't plant gummy bears.
It's obvious the people making the meme never watched the episode, or even the YouTube clip. That's a level of Normie I never thought was possible.
That isn't how ages work.
>The best/worst part of it is that neither of the two characters in the meme are actually meant to be Sneed/the store owner. He makes a pretty hard to miss appearance just seconds later where he tells Homer he can't plant gummy bears.
>It's obvious the people making the meme never watched the episode, or even the YouTube clip. That's a level of Normie I never thought was possible.
>your post but with le ebin hat man next to it
>the week after Sideshow Bob Roberts initially aired in October 1994, a poster on alt.tv.simpsons posted a diatribe about the episode being blatant propaganda, that Matt Groening "deserved to be hanged from a tree by his small intestine and left to slowly writhe in agony", and "Someone on the Simpsons staff is clearly worried about the midterm elections in a few weeks".
>The 10/24/94 Life in Hell features Binky the Rabbit reading the Usenet poster's rant on a computer and remarking "Why do I suddenly feel so refreshed?"
Pretty much everything. There was a point where they viewed Season 3/4 much the same way we view Season 9/10 today. The complaints ranged from the show getting too cartoon-ish and wacky and Bart-focused (which is ironic considering that a later meme would develop claiming that Season 3 saw a shift to Homer. DeadHomerSociety, for all it's flaws, has a great article debunking this) or too emotional and not funny enough.
Believe it or not, it was even worse for The X-Files. Whole episodes were based off of fan complaints, observations and dumb memes. The Smoking Man quite literally only became a recurring character and then arch-villain because he inspired running jokes on UseNet during Season 1.
>>your post but with le ebin hat man next to it
>your post but with le ebin crying dude next to it
I can do this all night
I believe it was brought up before, but Homer Goes To College got a very negative reaction at the time with people complaining that the show had turned into Saturday Morning Cartoon antics.
>Believe it or not, it was even worse for The X-Files
Honestly if you watched it during the '90s you would understand why this was a complaint
I couldn't find a source for this last time I checked, but apparently Harry Shearer felt the same way too and considered leaving around S4.
>I can do this all night
Yeah you can you friendless neet incel lmao
Incel
Shearer and Julie Kavner both objected to Homer at the Bat for celebrity cameos and the two of them actually boycotted Krusty Gets Kancelled which is why none of their characters have any speaking roles in that episode.
To be fair a show about an alcoholic abusive father e.g Season 1 Homer wouldn't have had as much staying power.
KGK had some good jokes but you can see the unhealthy trend it started.
DARRYL
DARRYL
This episode was the first one written by a female, Jennifer Crittenden who was only 23 at the time and had no experience writing any full length scripts. Dave Mirkin picked her up at a contest and she went on to write Scenes From The Class Struggle In Springfield and The Twisted World of Marge Simpson.
Apparently they didn't have female writers in the early seasons because Sam Simon had gone through a divorce and was super-/r9k/ misogyny mode so he didn't want any women in the writing room. By Season 6 it was obvious he wouldn't ever come back to the show.
And the show was markedly superior until they let roasties ruin the episodes.
Excellent incel posting my man
I'm not an incel, I'm a volcel.
Keep telling yourself that
That's the thing, it's a perfectly decent episode that might not appear in anyone's Top lists but still very much worth the watch. That there's several episodes like that across the first decade of the show says a lot.
The worst pickup ever was Ian Maxtone-Graham, whom they also got at a contest and he openly admitted that he had never watched an entire episode of the Simpsons before being hired. He had a particularly contentious relationship with Internet Simpsons fans, calling them "beetle-browed losers".
Which is funny because the episode itself is about Krusty not caring to make his humor relatable to the average Joe.
In all fairness the same is true of many episodes that are supposedly Bart focused. Let alone Marge episodes.
Are you kidding? Grandpa taking his way through his grandchildren's sympathy (and then rubbing it in in front of the whole family) is hysterical. What's mean spirited about it? He gets his due.
With upwards of 200 episodes in the first 9 seasons several are bound to be pushed to the back of a fan's mind; but they're still well done episodes that deliver the goods.
Did CMG really not appear between seasons 3 and 6? I feel that's incorrect
He outright said there were four episodes in season eight he and Josh would want to do again from the ground up if given the chance, which is harsher criticism than most fans give them.
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This claims otherwise but I'm pretty sure they count background appearances/crowd sscenes, which they shouldn't. I'm absolutely positive he didn't have a speaking role during Seasons 3-6.
Season 5 especially LOVED to make fun of TV conventions, hence the kids' questions pointing out the absurdity of it all at the end.
Homer's Barbershop Quartet was a 9F episode though, it was a Season 4 holdover.
Bill and Josh had a knack for exploring more of the side characters, which is great, but then in doing so they started retconning some backstory in the process, the infamous Skinner episode is when this reached its nadir narrative wise
Oakley & Weinstein were probably the showrunners who respected the show's original Season 1-2 vision the most and the only ones who seem to appreciate and enjoy interacting with fans instead of snubbing them. Of course they did do a few questionable things here and there namely their weird fixation on doing "Bart and Lisa: Kid Detectives" plots.
They stopped using Marge's mother after that. She was a really boring character and Julie Kavner didn't like doing the voice.
Off the top of my head I can think of him giving Bart the Margaret Thatcher phone in Madame Bouvier's Lover and then racking up the price of Bleeding Gums Murphy's record in Round Springfield. Season 5 and 6 respectively.
It's true he may be a no show in seasons 3 and 4 though.
At least they took Bart seriously as a character. I love season 5 but every other Bart episode in there isn't actually about him.
Running down the list of all of Seasons 5 and 6, Bart's Girlfriend is the only Bart episode that's about him.
If i'm an incel then so is Bart Simpson
Dave Mirkin had a weird obsession with attacking the media for some reason.
That was the first episode produced by the new Mirkin writing team and it was really jarring in comparison to the more grounded Season 1-4 show.
Fear of Flying. A really cliche plot based on a movie most people had forgotten even before the episode aired (Prince of Tides). And the Cheers scene is lazy.
Yes it has some good jokes but every episode did back then.
>the Usenet days
I can't say I ever liked Bart the Fink that much.
Nah, Cartridge Family was the last great Simpsons episode imo
I completely disagree, for some reason it was missing from the season 8 torrent I had so I didn't see it for years, it came on tv one day and I figured it must've been season 11 or 12 because I wasn't that familiar with it, it made me reevaluate my stance on later Simpsons until I looked up what season it was
For criminey's sake, they weren't going to show Bart and Lisa having explicit sibling sex while their parents weren't home. Go back to Paheal if you want that shit.
Nobody was suggesting that.
Not him but the person he's replying to and you're wrong because I was suggesting that actually.
>>>/tlhg/
A Fish Called Selma because it isn't even really about the Simpsons at all.
the something of summer where bart is egged on by the entire town to commit suicide, doing a rewatch slightly out of order it was like night and day to classic simpsons but i think it was still around that time? it reminded me of the contrast between early family guy and the one where stewie out of nowhere beats up brian for like 2 minutes and there's blood everywhere
lol what episode?
ah, boys of bummer
feels good to remember without looking it up
The Boys of Bummer
>Seasons 1-9
>18th season
OP said Golden Age, retard. Season 18 is pure kino
its hard to remember when you're old and nude
Another Simpsons Clip Show
Marge in Chains
Homer's Odyssey
Bart's Dog Gets An F
The Flanderization was especially noticable in "Homer Goes to College" because that was one of the first episodes David Mirkin produced after most of the original team left. They don't really get Homer's character at all, instead he is a copy of Chris from Mirkin's "Get a Life" (which also had a bunch of episodes where he tries to live life according to cliches he's seen in movies/TV).
I wouldn't say that's one of the weakest episodes because it's pretty consistently funny, which makes up for a lot. Bart's Inner Child is more of an example of Mirkin still not quite getting the show yet (he eventually did) but not having enough gags to make up for it.
>instead he is a copy of Chris from Mirkin's "Get a Life"
GREAT point. You could also argue that the later "Homer gets a job" episodes (though not written by Mirkin) took their influence from all the episodes where Chris became a health inspector, spelling bee champ, model, escort etc.
methinks your pleb is showing
It's on the commentary for Homer at the Bat, Julie Kavner and Harry Shearer both hated that script because they thought it was silly and was just an excuse to have a bunch of guest stars. And, well, it's true.
The first year of The Simpsons got a reputation as a satirical, edgy show and in season 3 it became much more cartoony, and I think Kavner and Shearer, who were the best known cast members at the time, preferred the more grounded show they signed up for. Most viewers prefer the season 3-4 approach because it's funnier and that's what matters.
I don't think Shearer has ever really liked the show since then.
>The Flanderization was especially noticable in "Homer Goes to College" because that was one of the first episodes David Mirkin produced after most of the original team left.
The only Season 1-4 writers they had left were John Swartzwelder and George Meyer. Not counting Oakley & Weinstein as they'd joined during Season 4 and had written only one episode to date.
>Bart's Inner Child is more of an example of Mirkin still not quite getting the show yet (he eventually did)
Yeah by the time you get to Homer vs Patty and Selma, it's like "There we go. There's Season 3 Homer."
Yeah fuck that shit. Shearer is the guy who wants every episode to be a political soapbox. His favorite episode of the series is Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish and Oakley & Weinstein had to tell him no when he wanted Two Bad Neighbors to be a political-themed episode.
>It's on the commentary for Homer at the Bat, Julie Kavner and Harry Shearer both hated that script because they thought it was silly and was just an excuse to have a bunch of guest stars. And, well, it's true.
Al Jean hates Shearer too and has ever since Homer at the Bat, an episode he points out "is now rightly regarded as a classic".
It honestly died aftter season 11 episode 5
>Shoot The Shaggy Dog
The tomacco episode? That's a good one tho, how come you say it's bad?
>Not counting Oakley & Weinstein as they'd joined during Season 4 and had written only one episode to date
Two (Marge Gets a Job and Marge in Chains). Although a bunch of other episodes have jokes that were obviously theirs.
It made me so nauseous I decided I wouldn't ride it again.
I wish Mirkin hadn't hired Mike Scully because he did far more damage to the show down the road than anyone.
who cares what al jean thinks? he's been driving a dead show into the ground for 20 years now after failing at his own show
Scully started out like Mirkin thinking Homer was Chris from Get a Life, except he never figured the show or Homer's character out and was determined to stick with him being a funny screaming man who has wacky adventures.
>inb4 butbutbut Lisa on Ice
We have no idea how much of that episode was even his.
>and the two of them actually boycotted Krusty Gets Kancelled which is why none of their characters have any speaking roles in that episode.
I recall Harry doing voices for the episode (he does two scenes as four of his main roles, and the Vin Scully impression Gabbo does).
No idea, it's been a while since I've watched it. Marge definitely has no lines.
>We have no idea how much of that episode was even his
Oh but we do. Homer's jackass characterization in LOE is classic Scully and he has said that the basic premise was inspired by his playing hockey as a child in New England.
Yeah. Burns, Smithers, Lovejoy and Jasper have lines back to back.
I was sort of OK with Homer in LOE because it's semi-realistic (parents are jerkasses about their kids' sports) and he's not the focus of the episode so I don't mind that he doesn't learn his lesson.
By the time Scully had gone the Full Scully (probably starting with "Trash of the Titans"), not only was Homer an asshole for no reason, he was the focus of practically every episode and never got called out on anything.
More like the B-plot in Lisa's Rival which in the original draft script was twice as long and featured Homer throwing acid in an old lady's face.
Are you okay, Grimey?
I'm better than okay. 'Cause I'm Homer Simpson.
Heh heh, you wish.
I never understood all the Flintstones parodies/references. It seemed very OOC for the show.
"Got any messages for Jimi Hendrix?"
"Yes. Pick up your puppy."
I still don't even get this joke. I remember that there was a thread about it and some people were denying that it was even a joke at all.
It's easily the most polarizing 'joke' in the classic era. I kind of like it.
>I'm the first non-Brazilian person to travel backwards through time!
Never liked Apu in Marge In Chains; him and Sanjay loudly celebrating that Marge, who accidentally forgot to pay for Grampa's bottle of bourbon, is going to jail for shoplifting was terrible.
Oakley and Weinstein have been profusely apologetic for that thing. They said it was one of the worst and most nonsensical Simpsons jokes ever.
From my recollection of the DVD commentary, they said it was a stupid throwaway joke most people would have probably forgotten about except they unwisely used it as an act break.
Fear of Flying: When Moe kicked Homer out of his bar just for no reason. It's a little mean-spirited.
I don't really like the haunted house "screw the audience" gag at the start of Bart the Fink. Seems a bit ham-handed and obvioua.
Brother From The Same Planet. Homer and Tom fighting and falling into a ravine is Season 11-tier.
According to this thread, every episode of the Simpsons sucks.
Where's the inaccuracy?
I'm just going to exclude Season 9 for this post as I'd rather focus on the earlier seasons. It's really hard to come up with the worst moments from the classic era that aren't obvious like the ending to Separate Vocations (I actually love the ending to Lisa the Iconoclast btw) pretty much any weak moment from Season 9 or what some people describe as the worst classic-era joke which is Rover Hendrix.
Anyways one of them I'm going to mention is the joke in A Star is Burns where Patty and Selma changes the letters of Springfield to Seinfeld which just felt like a tacked-on reference. Then there's this other one in Bart's Dog Gets an F where Homer tries to get a refund on his ruined shoes where the store clerk says "I'm sorry, sir, our warranty doesn't cover fire, theft, or acts of dog." which I didn't even know was a joke until someone in a Simpsons thread told me. I just think it's more mean-spirited than funny.
Frank was at fault for trying to get over on Homer so much and kept failing that it drove him insane that led to his death.
It's like he showed more personality as a side character than he did as a presumed protagonist in those years
Season 4 (or well, the 9F episodes) had a number of wacky moments like Sideshow Bob stepping on the rakes because most of the writers were leaving the show at the end of production and didn't give a shit anymore.
You must have an incredibly low bar for what you consider "mean-spirited"
That alone shouldn't say anything about its quality though. If you removed every Simpsons bit from 22 Short Stories About Springfield it'd still be an awesome episode.
>What? They've given you thousands of hours of entertainment for free.
I still had to pay my cable bill you little dipshit
Great way of putting it. It's this why at one point I argued that Season 5 was the Scully seasons done RIGHT; really wacky premises unlike the more down to earth business the show was known for, but fueled by such strong humor that they could pull it off.
Of course nowadays with more than a decade of Al Jean awfulness I think the Scully seasons can be hilarious on their own right.
I'm going to exclude Season 1 from the equation because they still hadn't figured things out yet, but probably the worst one was The Call of the Simpsons (Saturday Morning Cartoon-tier).
Santa's Little Helper episodes are boring and formulaic.
The Secret War of Lisa Simpson--sappy
Fear of Flying--sinks after the first act
Spinoff Showcase--Lazy satire making fun of things that are already an obvious joke
'Round Springfield--Many of the jokes totally bomb, but like somebody else said, it was made by Critic writers who didn't understand the Simpsons properly.
I didn't know of Mirkin's previous work. Is Get a Life worth the watch these days?
Of the Scully seasons, 11 has the best and most consistent gags in it. As horrible as many of the episodes can get, there are a lot of memorable lines in them.
Season 12 is just painful though and there is little humor to be found, also they ramped up the shock/gore jokes to a 9.
I always got the impression of it just them being drunk and not thinking straight at the time. At least regarding Homer's pals. No idea what got Moe all riled up like that over the sugar holder prank.
He did a lot of harm in his time, but compared to what came after him? His shows are fucking classics. I'd take the average Scully episode over the average Solo Al Jean episode any day of the week.
One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blow Fish
I mean, come on. Did anyone really think Homer was going to die?
>His shows are fucking classics
Oh boy, I can tell it's been a long time since you saw Children of a Lesser Clod or Homer The Moe.
Seinfeld joke is even worse in the Latin American Spanish dub. They have Patty and Selma refer to it as "New York", when Seinfeld is clearly visible in the chalkboard.
I'm surprised at the dislike of Dancing Homer among a lot of Simpsons fans because I've always liked it myself.
Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(annoyed grunt)cious
It is one of the best short-lived sitcoms ever. Criminally underrated. You'll genuinely be shocked these episodes were made in 1991-2. The biggest problem with it, is that it's type of humor is now so commonplace you might wonder what the fuss is about.
But keep in mind, it aired back when Seinfeld was still finding it's footing, The Simpsons were still trying, and Adult Swim was a long ways away. Check out Chris Elliott's cult movie Cabin Boy (A movie that has humor that is basically a watered-down Get A Life) and if you like that, you'll LOVE Get A Life. If you're a fan of Freddy Got Fingered, it's a must-see. Some critics actually thought FGF was an attempt to rip it off in 2001.
A word of advice though, don't rush to see the famous Spewey episode first thing, while it's good, there are better episodes and it's funnier in context of those.
Wait, WHAT.
>Fear of Flying--sinks after the first act
What you mean is that it never takes flight!
I'm sorry, it's a SMC-tier episode and Sherry Bobbins is as lazy as Mapple or Mypod. If you want a Marge goes insane plot, go watch Homer Alone instead.
Dancin Homer
Dead Putting Society. Homer is way too mean-spirited.
I disagree.
That's a great coming of an age episode.
Homer's Triple Bypass
This has to be bait and I just took it
King Sized Homer
>ha ha fat people are funny ebic XD
Canine Mutiny, while it has its moments, just didn't really sit well with me.
Heh, admitedly not ALL of them, but I doubt they can be lower than trash like The Greatest Story Ever D'ohed, The Boys of Bummer or others of the like.
I mostly find The Secret War of Lisa Simpson to be way too heavy-handed, which is somewhat rare for the classic era. In most early episodes, they manage to convey the point they're trying to make and then back off on it, but in Secret War, they feel the need to subject us to scene after scene after scene of miserable Lisa in order to prove a point. A point, by the way, which is fairly unfocused and pointless to begin with.
It's not awful or anything, but its writing really stands out compared to the rest of the classic era. It makes me recall Oakley & Weinstein admitting in a commentary that they felt the quality was falling off a little at the end of their term. And you look at something as heavy-handed as Secret War, and compare it to a more nuanced analysis one season earlier in Summer of 4 Ft 2. And it's difficult to argue with them.
It's not a bad episode by any means, just very low key and not particularly funny. But I find it a comfy watch as a more intimate Homer story than the norm.
But they are.
Both the movie AND the sitcoms added to my list, good gent or dame.
That episode is really hurt by the lack of a proper subplot. They have to stretch out Lisa's woes to make up for it, losing nuance and comical possibilities in the process.
See, in one hand I agree that it's easily one of the weakest episode of the classic run...
...in the other hand it does have one of the best damn endings ever.
My local station always played the gun episode so I got sick of it for the same reason. Still a good episode and the scene where Homer goes in to buy his gun is one of my all time favorite scenes because it's just a bunch of small, rapid fire jokes ending in one of my favorite lines.
>Yeah, well, ya don't.
I used to hate Homer vs the Eighteenth Amendment and A Milhouse Divided for the same reason. Some episodes like Separate Vocations you were lucky to see once a year.
>A Milhouse Divided
>320 posts before someone brought this one up
Another lame Marge/Homer marriage crisis episode and also who really gives a shit about Milhouse's parents? Before this episode they were background characters we didn't know anything about.
HAIL TO THE BUS DRIVER
BUS
DRIVER
MAN
I want to do things to Sherri and Terri.
APRIIL FOO-
That's the entire premise of the episode AND ITS FUCKING HILARIOUS.
>for once dad's butt prevented the leaking of toxic gas
Seasons 1-4 were mostly based on really simple sitcom-type of plots, but this allowed the writers to flesh them out. Take New Kid on the Block. Bart having a crush on an older girl doesn't seem very substantial, however the extraneous elements around it fill out nicely.
From Season 5 onward, the plots started getting progressively bigger and more outrageous so they couldn't invest as much time into nuance or characterization. It took tons of rapid fire jokes and unbelievable plot elements to keep an episode like Deep Space Homer or Bart vs Australia running from beginning to end. Lots of people love Homer eating potato chips in zero Gs or an army of frogs devastating Australia's agriculture, but it makes it harder to get as emotionally invested in the episode.
>Santa's Little Helper episodes are boring and formulaic.
I dunno. I've always really liked Dog of Death
I'd argue even Season 4 was straying from simple sitcom-type plots by the final episodes. Whacking Day and Krusty Gets Kancelled are very different compared to the earlier episodes of the same season.
>The Otto Show
First proof that the Simpsons isn't very good at satirizing popular music. Also Otto isn't that compelling of a character.
>Bart vs Australia
Bart was pretty douchey and unlikable here and a lot of the gags (>knifey-spooney) didn't work
>The War of the Simpsons
The second half of the episode is lame and since when does Homer fish?
>Two Bad Neighbors
It was ok when just Bart was annoying the Bushes but once Homer got involved the episode loses it. I don't like when Homer is allowed to be an asshole and get away with it.
>Fear of Flying
Boring and the payoff at the end (Marge's dad being a stewardess) isn't very good.
>Bart Gets an Elephant
SMC tier and Homer ramming the guy with his head seems like a Season 11 kind of gag.
IMO, only about half the episodes in Season 1 are worth a watch, and even then, they're still pretty slow paced compared to what came after.
But then you also have the likes of And Maggie Makes Three or Lisa's Wedding where the emotional angle is pushed nicely. It's really season 5 that goes all out in the comedy and has little to no sentimental episodes, sixth season balances it back
Moaning Lisa (I never did like Bleeding Gums Murphy)
Bart Gets an F
Scenes from a Class Struggle in Springfield (I get the point, but they overstated the "class doesn't matter" message)
The Otto Show (I just can't find any reason to care about Otto)
When Flanders Failed (early instance of asshole Homer)
Bart Gets a Elephant is pretty bad. Has that wacky concept that has no moral and goes nowhere. Also has that hint of Scully era comedy (Homer ramming the poacher, Homer's solution to getting out of the tar pit, etc.) which I don't like.
Summer of 4'2" because the main plot is unbelievably boring and void of any jokes.
Definitely Bart's Dog Gets An F. It's just boring as all fuck and feels like it's from a completely different series.
When Flanders Failed is incredibly fucked up the more you analyze it. Homer stops short of wanting him dead.
SHUT THE HELL UP
It is rather unbalanced. It's symultaneously Homer at his most awful and yet it also has one of the most saccharine endings in the series.
>bully rides up to diner filled with runaway duos while playing a police siren daily
>Has that wacky concept that has no moral and goes nowhere.
But it certainly was a memorable few days.
Bart Gets an Elephant is just a pile of disconnected gags with no plot; it feels like Scully era lite.
I always saw season 7 as a mixture of Season 2-3 type stories but with the pacing and humour of season 6.
Pretty good list, good job.
Ok, first off.
>the entire plot is wacky as fuck, but the writers try to handle it in a semi-serious fashion
>a substantial amount of time is spent on Bart's bonding with Stampy, which doesn't work because how can the audience relate to a kid loving his new pet elephant
>instead of showing Stampy as a victim we could feel bad for, the episode emphasizes him being a destructive beast
>Bart's relationship with Stampy is mostly limited to him getting stuck in his mouth and needing help to get out and helping him get to sleep
>it's also a stretch to ask the audience to believe how Bart could suddenly find such affection for Stampy other than that he feels entitled for having won him in a contest, otherwise he seems to have no awareness of Stampy's destructive rampage in town
>the writers try to set up an emotional plot when in reality you're mostly just scared for everyone's life
>episode concludes with Bart releasing Stampy to a more suitable environment--fairly predictable ending, nothing exciting there
Instead of trying an emotional plot, they would have been better just playing it as a straight-up gagfest and shown some self-awareness at the ridiculous plot.
The Day The Violence Died
Chester J. Lampwick is a terrible one-shot character. He has zero depth aside from wanting money for creating Itchy, and when he finally receives his multi-million dollar payoff, he doesn't care about anything or anyone. Based on his age, he should be on the verge of death, and I find it callous that he could just shrug off the consequences of his lawsuit against Roger Myers, Jr., which led to the complete destruction of Itchy & Scratchy. Not only does he care about absolutely nobody except himself, he's all-but oblivious to real life pragmatism and responsibility.
Most of The Day the Violence Died simply focuses on trying to prove Lampwick was the rightful owner of Itchy before abruptly cutting to a new story once that issue is resolved. Until Roger Myers, Jr. goes out of business, the story takes an ardently pro-Lampwick stance, leaving little to consider from any other perspective. This leaves us with a terribly simplistic and stale episode for most of the duration, and once the conclusion of the first part leads into the second, the tone suddenly shifts entirely. Even with the limited running time remaining, the scope is still too narrow for the transition to be smooth. With Lampwick 100% satisfied with his golden mansion, Bart and Lisa simply have to save Itchy & Scratchy themselves, unguided and with no further insight.
The Day the Violence Died is still a highly enjoyable episode, thanks to several funny moments, a great court scene featuring Lionel Hutz, a hilarious parody of I'm Just a Bill, and a clever wrap-up, but due to its bland and uninteresting plot, it's a notable step down from the status-quo of Season 7 (though not as big a step down as Homerpalooza).
That's kind of the joke though. Someone who was cheated by the system/society is usually a sympathetic character and Chester is anything but. Instead he's such a vengeful douchebag that he'll literally bankrupt Itchy & Scratchy Studios and put hundreds out of work to get what he thinks is owed to him.
Dog of Death. It feels like a really tryhard attempt to make SLH into a relevant character.
>tryhard
oh my fucking god i forgot about that one simpsons comic with the death note parody
anyone got a digital copy of it?
You and I saw different episodes. Season 5 in general has almost no attempts at sentimentialism let alone in the elephant episode.
I do.
Hens love roosters, geese love ganders, Everyone else loves Ned Flanders!
Came here to post this.
The episode just rubs me the wrong way with everyone in town against Marge for something so small.
>Bart's Dog Gets An F
Personally I don't think season 1 and 2 episodes should count. Simpsons didn't get good until season 3.
The line "It's a big country" always gets me.
Summer of 4'2" and Homerpalooza really are pretty bad, and I never watch the clipshows aside from 138th Episode Spectacular which is great.
Like a lot of others on this list though
IIRC, the 3G episodes from seasons 8 and 9 (Springfield Files, Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious, Lisa's Sax, and Simpson Tide) were also Critic staff episodes.
I never actually got around watching the whole X-Files, why was it a complaint?
I feel like the average age of people in this thread is at least 15 years above the rest of Yea Forums. A lot more in-depth analysis than I expected from this board nowadays, not that that’s a bad thing in any way
My Sister, My Sitter was terrible.
This ep was sort of a comfy, somehow enjoyable 'serious' ep. It's not that we think Homer will die, it's just all the plans he'd make and things he'd prioritise that manage to add a sense of meaning to Homer's usual meaninglessness. Him falling asleep listening to an audio book never expecting to see morning manages to be a moment I always remember from the early days, same with Bart's journey to heaven and then hell in Bart gets Hit By a Car.
A lot of Simpsons communities online are full of 30+ year olds, I've noticed. It's especially obvious when you still see people bitch and moan about seasons 8-12 episodes, despite the show having had far worse episodes/seasons since.
The one where Milhouse's parents break up at a party at the Simpson's and his mom is a bitch
I never liked how it transitioned into a Marge and Homer "our marriage is on the rocks" story. Felt abrupt and kind of tacked on to me. Like they completely dumped the Kirk and Luanne stuff after the 2nd act and made Homer the main focus. The first act with the dinner party and all the Kirk scenes afterwards are gold.
it doesnt matter because it ends with everything happy while luanne says she wont take him back and he embarrasses himself in front of everyone an her new boyfriend shoves him all the way out of the house from the living room and no one cares because hes a joke
Kirk is pretty funny as a punching bag though
so much character development and she lost it all by the end of the episode. yes, those breasts were the most development she had since 1989
Worst. Tetrodoxin poisoning portrayal. Ever.
That’s because we all stopped watching The Simpsons almost 20 years ago.
Yeah seasons 2 and 3 are my favorite for similiar reasons.
Duffless is a great episode.
They were show ran by Al Jean and Mike Reiss but I dont think the Critic's staff returned for those. Series was cancelled by then no?
Logic must have been that viewers care infinitely more about Homer than they ever will Kirk
It's definitely the critic staff. And while they aired in season 8 and 9, they were made during season 7, as evidenced by Lunchlady Doris having spoken lines in Lisa's Sax.
Does Bart the General count as Golden Age?
Basically the Simpsons and the Flintstones were the *only* two animated sitcoms that went anywhere, let alone existed, until the mid to late nineties.
The were the only fish in the pool; the comparisons and nods were there because the older show kinda inspired in some places the new show and because honestly, the Flintstones were the only thing you could compare it to because nobody ever remembers "Wait till your Father Gets Home."
Hell, the Flintstones even had an episode where Fred goes back to college (it was chuckle worthy; the kids thought he was cool because he drove his own car to class and of course it turns into a football episode, but it was nice that Fred actually had a legitimate win for a change.)
>simpsons comic with the death note parody
Hol up
Homer's Enemy is a masterpiece. It's the greatest Zombie Simpsons episode ever written.
...Yeeeaaaah.
People are always quick to defend Apu especially ever since that documentary but he always came off as a kind of evil stickler/rules abiding jerkass in the classic episodes that I'm most familiar with.
He totally *wanted* Marge to go to jail for that slip up, even calling her a bitch, and in one of his earliest appearances he spoke with alot of Holier than Thou disdain that Homer didn't try to thwart the robbery Sideshow Bob used to frame Krusty. Because Homer totally *should* have tried to tackle or fight a guy waving a fucking gun around.
Even in his first centric episode where he loses his job, he doesn't really seem all that shook up that he sells spoiled/unsafe food because he was following company policies and can't see what's objectively wrong here.
Season 1 is the best. fight me also sneed
That was back when Flanders' point was to be the better man/neighbor/person in general that Homer was not.
Homer had a personal, if incredibly petty and stupid reason to be an asshole, especially in the context of the early "Home sounds like Walter Matthau" eps where he's been complaining about how messed up his family is. Flanders became good old Charlie Church as time went on, but here he keeps getting under Homer's skin and remained oblivious.
I liked this episode but it doesn't fit in the context of a show with no stable continuity.
If time actually progressed and the characters aged, this would have been an *actual* milestone for Lisa...and Bart too (not just because he wouldn't bail on Lisa if the story progressed) like he did since apparently all that military hand to hand training is never brought up again... but instead Lisa is given a victory that is ultimately hollow because she doesn't grow up, doesn't continue to better herself or become a better person for taking a challenge head on.
def, its like season 3 i think
The more things change, the more things stay the same.
He was a side character who reflected a flawed side of his occupation...You know, like every single other side character in the show. Wiggum, Lovejoy, Skinner, no one was shown immaculate and much of the humor came precisely from embracing their flawed side.
Thing is though that it didnt stop at that. He also had a heart and we got to see it in several episodes.
Its what it is with series with little to no continuity. Bart Gets An F is regarded as a bonafide classic and almost thirty years later he's still in fourth grade.
Why are most of the people who criticize old Simpsons episodes very clearly autistic?
>The worst pickup ever was Ian Maxtone-Graham
He wrote the greatest episode in the show's history though.
Lisa on Ice is the prototype of everything that Mike Scully would later do in 9-12.
They bumped Bart and Lisa up a grade with new teachers after losing Mrs. Krabappel, but Zombie Simpsons really doesn't count, does it?
simpsons.fandom.com
The City of New York vs Homer Simpson is the only episode he wrote that is somewhat regarded as a classic.
That's a Sneedposter. Ignore it.
Or
E-I-E-I-D'oh wasn't that great of an episode anyway, but it's like American Psycho--nobody will ever be able to discuss it on this website again.
>It's especially obvious when you still see people bitch and moan about seasons 8-12 episodes
You mean like the Dead Homer Society admin?
That so? Lisa and Bart in the 3rd and 5th grade now? Huh. Point stands that it took more than two decades for it to have any kind of payoff within the series proper, but that didnt take away because you're supposed to look at these individually.
Real talk, that site talks sense more often than not.
Will Disney try to turn the Simpsons around? Sack the creative team and bring in some new blood?
I found this thread late last night and was confused by the lack of spam of the meme that shall not be named. Today I checked again and discovered that this thread was not on Yea Forums, as I had foolishly assumed due to fatigue, and everything became clear. Yea Forums is forever proven to be the infinitely superior board.
>...Yeeeaaaah.
jesus christ you fucking 12 year old
The only thing that can save The Simpsons is the sweet release of death.
Jesus christ, I didn't even know about that. I wish there was a way to go back in time and prevent Mike Scully from joining the team. He was a hack from day 1.
>I found this thread late last night and was confused by the lack of spam of the meme that shall not be named
boards.fireden.net
I can't find the simpsons thread that was up just a minute ago about the worst golden age episodes so if someone can find it for me and post this there than I'll thank you. Sorry for posting this in an unrelated thread but I need to vent.
The episode where homer
The guy's entire vision for the show consisted of making it into "The Wacky Adventures of Homer Simpson".
Yea Forums needs to be deleted
>1990s /pol/tard has a chimpout
What does Nichijou have to do with Yea Forums?
You forgot to put "colorized" you unfunny tumblr child.
ctrl+f sneed in that link and see
ctrl+f sneed in that link and see
Krusty still should've been Homer's alter-ego
Bart's Friend Falls in Love kind of annoys me, although that's probably just because my local station used to overplay it.
Why even count those
Josh Weinstein said the entire third act of A Milhouse Divided needed reworking.
Sherry Boppins
I was just saying hello Mr Hutz
I think that it abandons any development already taken in the Van Houtens' story for something more conventional and familiar, and it's done in a disjointed way too. That's not to say the third act given isn't well-written and charming, nor am I suggestign that continuing the Van Houten storyline would have been necessarily better. But the stories don't compliment each other very well, and the main story especially feels underwhelming and not properly fleshed-out, limited to really only to glimpses of their changed lives. And abandoning the main story two-thirds of the way through guarantees it to be less interesting than it should, as opposed to continuing it and maybe making the whole cohesively stronger and potentially classic as a result.
Yeah they should have just kept the story focused on Milhouse's parents instead of trailing off into a Homer/Marge plot.
To be honest, Kirk and Luanne aren't very interesting characters and before this episode we barely even knew anything about them.
This is my third favourite episode of all time
I guess making their divorce a permanent change did add some new ground to explore.
I don't know why Milhouse was in the title since he was almost barely in the episode.
The writing is handled so well though that they create the impression that we've known them all along.
thank you based janitors
Lisa The Skeptic. Yuck.
Raging Abe Simpson and his...whatever
Hell, Marge herself tells Luanne as much.
He dumbed the show down reportedly so his kids could understand it better.
sneed
They dubbed it "first person since the astronauts" in the br dub. Funnier IMO