Hot take: Namor is a shit character and even his fans can't find a single good thing to say about him other than "HE IS LE BADASS XD LOL".
Marvel's annual attempts of making the character seem cool by killing thousands of people only makes him worse.
He's just Aquaman but worse
He could be Marvel's Vegeta if they just put in the time.
Did they even explained why he's so strong now? He fucking bitchslapped Thor,Ghost Rider,Iron Man and Captain Marvel at the same time.
I'm pretty sure the people who like Namor do specifically because he's a ridiculous asshole.
Somehow he stole Hydro-man's power.
They work on a "Use it or lose it" kind of deal, and he hasn't been around for a while
>Hot take
Ain't that hot. Namor is shit
>Marvel's annual attempts of making the character seem cool... only makes him worse.
You can say that about many of their pushes. Pic related.
Did you stopped your jerking-off to Lobo session already, Tommy?
Invaders is really picking up, man. I have hope for the first time in years
Is there a comic book civilization people care less about than Atlantis? All they do is complain about muh polluted oceans, but they never do anything to fix the issue.
Up until two years ago Wakanda.
I like Namor because he is the forerunner of all comic book anti-heroes and true villain protagonists in general.
His first story is a full blown horror tale of a mama’s boy doing what he thought was right, which was killing the surface people for destroying his undersea kingdom. This is something I still think makes him stand out amongst the other anti-heroes/villain protagonists in comics that came much later, and even when Bill Everett toned him down later, he still wrote him as the kind of character who could easily contemplate stealing world-destroying weapons from the villains to wipe out humanity himself if he felt like humans wronged him (regardless of whether or not they did)
The Everett Namor stories had a temperamental, unpredictable hero who wasn't always heroic and doesn’t always feel like he belongs, humans who unjustly (and often perfectly justly) distrust the hero, crazy plots with bizarre villains, one of whom had a sibling rivalry to the hero that predated the Thor/Loki dynamic (albeit Namor was the Loki of this scenario), worldbuilding around the fantasy civilization the hero comes from and his childhood, love interests with their own foibles and counterpoints and even some really good humor to counteract the mayhem and seriousness.
I have zero interest in Namor anywhere when he's not written by Bill Everett and when he is mostly used to rehash soap opera plots with the Fantastic Four.
But I think the original Namor comics deserve a lot more credit than they get for establishing ideas that would create the bedrock of Marvel in the 60s
Savage Lands. All they do is nothing.
It's the only really good Timely comic
Is this Namorfag trying a new approach?
Also, he was best as a side character for FF
Yeah, Namor’s stint as a villain was his best era. The early issues of him fighting the Avengers were great.
Namor is shit because "muh status quo" just like every other character in marvel and D.C.
He only did that because he's stronger underwater, in his element. It's still fucking bullshit by the way, I though it was pretty ridiculous, but that's how they justified it. It speaks levels when a single guy like Namor basically bitchslaps all the Avengers that were assembled by Aaron as the "strongest team" of the moment, yet the Ultimates wouldn't have tolerated this nonsense.
There's a civilization there? I thought it was just dinosaurs, random mad scientists, and a couple Tarzan cosplayers.
>one of whom had a sibling rivalry to the hero that predated the Thor/Loki dynamic
aaaawwwwwhhhhhaaattt Namor had a sibiling? who is it?
Prince Byrrah, his archenemy during Everett's 1950s run. He was later revived in Tales to Astonish #90 and in Everett's final Namor run in the 70s, where he was more prominent than any of the Lee-Kirby-Thomas created villains. A lot of the later hallmarks of the Odin-Thor-Loki dynamic show up in those comics.
He's probably Marvel's most successful non-Red Skull GA villain, unless you count Yellow Claw or Namor himself. In many ways, Warlord Krang and Attumah were basically just substitutes for him, just as how Zemo was a substitute Red Skull before he was reintroduced.
They have a whole bunch of ape people and Lovecraftian monsters there too. One ape, Ma-Gorr, was sort of built up as an archenemy for Ka-Zar but never got off the ground.
SOON
Hey the Savage Land is cool, Dinosaurs and exotic fruits, what's not to like
I don't see why Marvel doesn't make him a character like Kain from the Legacy of Kain series or Avon from Blake's 7, I.e. an egotistical asshole but one who can back up being a deadpan, smug prick by being really fucking competent.
Both of these characters have large fandoms, with Kain being loved even when he's a villain, which is half the time, and Avon being considered the main character of his show despite it being named after someone else and being a side character for 2 seasons.
I think the main issue is that Marvel focuses on making Namor a prick, but constantly have him being shown up, ineffectual, and a bit of a loser who cant even back up his talk. They make him a blowhard. If they actually had him being competent and dealing with legitimate threats like Kain and Avon have to, it would go a long way towards making the character good if not great.