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HOUSE OF X #1
WRITTEN BY JONATHAN HICKMAN, ART AND COVER BY PEPE LARRAZ
Since the release of UNCANNY X-MEN #1, there have been four seminal moments in the history of the X-Men. GIANT-SIZE X-MEN. X-MEN. AGE OF APOCALYPSE. NEW X-MEN. Four iconic series that introduced a new era for Marvel’s mutants and revolutionized the X-Men. In HOUSE OF X, Charles Xavier reveals his master plan for mutantkind…one that will bring mutants out of the shadow of mankind and into the light once more.
POWERS OF X #1
WRITTEN BY JONATHAN HICKMAN, ART AND COVER BY R.B. SILVA
Hickman (INFINTY, NEW AVENGERS, FF) continues his revolutionary new direction for the X-Men. Intertwining with HOUSE OF X, POWERS OF X reveals the secret past, present, and future of mutantkind, changing the way you look at every X-Men story before and after.
You do not want to miss the next seminal moment in the history of the X-Men!
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #7
WRITTEN BY DONNY CATES, ART BY CORY SMITH, COVER BY DAVID MARQUEZ
The Death of Rocket begins here!
In the aftermath of the FINAL GAUNTLET, the Guardians of the Galaxy are taking some well deserved R&R. But their vacation is about to be cut short when a familiar, but radically powerful enemy returns. And what does all of this have to do with the whereabouts of a certain raccoon?
FANTASTIC FOUR #12
WRITTEN BY DAN SLOTT, ART BY SEAN ISAAKSE, COVER BY ESAD RIBIC
Ben and Alicia are off on their dream honeymoon in a remote tropical paradise...until someone decides to crash it. Or should we say SMASH IT?! Get ready for the biggest HULK VS. THING FIGHT OF THE CENTURY!
PLUS: The saga of the Future Foundation by Jeremy Whitley and Wil Robson!
love the costumes.
LOKI #1
WRITTEN BY DANIEL KIBBLESMITH, ART BY OSCAR BAZALDUA, COVER BY OZGUR YILDIRIM
After dying a grisly death in WAR OF THE REALMS, Loki learned a valuable lesson in warmongering: Don’t get caught. But now he has a whole new set of responsibilities—and his brother Thor is not about to let him walk away from them this time.
Late Show and BLACK PANTHER VS. DEADPOOL writer Daniel Kibblesmith takes the god of mischief in a thrilling new direction!
>Xavier is Maker now
PUNISHER KILL KREW #1
WRITTEN BY GERRY DUGGAN, ART BY JUAN FERREYRA, COVER BY TONY MOORE
ONE MAN. TEN REALMS. TOTAL WAR.
During WAR OF THE REALMS, Frank Castle made a promise of vengeance, and Frank Castle keeps his promises. But a van full of orphans is about to make that promise a lot more complicated... How does a man kill gods and monsters?
Has this run been any good?
>LOKI
Oh boy, it's time for more-
>WRITTEN BY DANIEL KIBBLESMITH
Oh, Ewing isn't on this...
nah pretty shit.
if you didn´t like how slott wrote peter and his supportive cast you won´t like how he writes the fantastic four either.
his iron man is even worse
Wait, something is actually going to come out of Frank being in WoTR?!
My dick is so hard right now.
is that the one where he is a tranny?
more shit old X-Men
more shit OC because fuck recent characters
more "death of" clickbait
more nostalgic crap
>Shillman
It gets the job done.
Not the best FF run, but still a fun ride and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than his late Spider-man.
Passable ideas, terrible execution. Classic Slott.
Just a reminder that Hickman will totally ignore this.
I mean Soule pretty much told everyone to ignore it when he wrapped Astonishing up anyways.
He better not fuck up my waifu.
>Xavier
>not Maker
>implying that's a bad thing
>nail polish
I can’t wait to see people whine about this.
What? You mean when he was in Sif's body? That was ages ago.
Cates is such a hack
Did op fucking die?
Yeah, how could he forget that classic X-Men character, Maker
>Rightclops way in the back
>no Emma
>Jean
Those are literally all the comics shown in the link, dumb dumb
OP here.
This ain't a solicit list, just early announcements, these're all that have been announced.
Ah.
It's a good look for him. Now if he'd just regularly change between being a man and a woman you got me at day one.
Just make Frank the new champion of Death already. That way, you can bring Thanos in on the action eventually.
>his iron man is even worse
I like it. But after the horrible shit we have been through over the last decade even 'consistently decent' seems like mother's milk.
But he's had that for a while now....
We've known that since at least 'The God Quarry'.
YE S
YES
EYESSSSSS
X-MEN ARE BACK
God Quarry was Lemire
>reveals the secret past, present, and future of [Name of any Comic or character]
>changing the way you look at every [Name of any Comic or character] story before and after.
>You do not want to miss the next seminal moment in the history of [Name of any Comic or character]
Eat shit Hackman.
>The Death of [Name of any character] begins here!
Oh, for fuck's sake I was just giving Hickman a jab for the nothing will ever be the same formula, and almost on cue Cates has to top it with even more trite sensationalist writing 101.
But does Magneto's costumes have sleeves or not? I NEED to know!!
Looks like the ANAD costume so I'm going to assume no.
why would it be that run was cool
>Hackman shitposting is back
Almost feeling nostalgic.
Soule is ass cancer
I don't trust anyone but Ewing writing Devil Hulk
>Magik with black hair
What? Her sword design is cool though.
I'm glad that Marvel is finally allowing X-Men at least a chance to be good again now that the movie rights are back.
Just wait until the comics drop so anons can post them out of sequence during storytimes.
it was 90 percent true
I'm assuming that user meant not!Maker, as in, that Professor X sure as fuck looks like he's just Maker with an X helmet instead of an elongated one.
>Daniel Kibblesmith
Marvel will never learn.
Sure thing, Hackmanfag. Got any new and inventive ways to ruin storytimes or are you just going to stick to the classic "post random pages during the storytime out of order" method?
Curious Magneto went back to the Bendis design. Scott’s is similar to that era too, just blue and with a traditional visor.
Place bets on Slott not even using Daddy Hulk proper and just going with an EMH or MCU type Hulk and leave Ewing to clean up the mess.
Looks more like she fused with dani or dani got her shit somehow. I mean she gave Blink a dagger from her soul before. What if she gave the whole soul sword and armor to dani
Devil Hulk sounds like a fucking Tekken character
Reminder that there are stories going back to the late 10th century where Loki transforms into a female horse, gets fucked and impregnated by a giant chad horse, and gives birth to an eight-legged horse that Odin takes as his steed.
Loki is far more degenerate than anything modern Marvel could hope to produce.
Look at the hair. That is clearly not just Magik. It looks like it's a combo of Magik and Moonstar.
Hickman on X-Men is literaly the best thing to happen to X-Men since Morrisons run. Eat shit you ugly fucks.
Marvel is desperate. The X-books are floundering and they are not brave enough to take actual risks so they are going for a known quantity with Hackman.
...Man. I have it bad lately.
Still... 'Thanos Wins' was ridiculously edgy.
Oh shit, you're right, I totally missed the braid.
Well, I hope that sword design sticks when this is over. I am so done with that retarded buster sword shit.
award winning writing
I haven't been reading X-men in the last years, when did they bring Xavier back to life?
>best run since Morrison
How would you know? You haven't even read it. Maybe you should stop being a sophist peddling Marvel propaganda and talking points.
The Cassandra Nova stuff that uses that design predates that look for 1610 Reed.
When's Carol?
Is a billion-dollar movie not enough to make editorial not hate her?
the last astonishing run he came back in fantomexs body
its a fucking xmen book
Soule's run of Astonishing X-Men.
That's Franklin, isn't it? What's with the arc reactor in his chest?
I still can't wrap my head around what level of irony this page was on.
Were they laughing at us or with us?
>a billion-dollar movie
It smells fishy.
Not hating Carol is like not being able to control your own drooling, it can't be done by people who aren't retarded.
it was written by remender
Are you just admitting you're stupid ? Where's your confidence user ?
>oh yay more charts
edgy
fun
could be great
dope
I think it's moving in the right direction but I would prefer it to be a bit shorter. I also dislike how the base flares out instead of being straight.
They gotta wait until the dust has settled from Endgame to figure out how to reinvent and characterize her (again).
Guessing post Xman deboots characters.
Based Hickman returning to marvel and BTFOing Dc
Wow, this is almost exactly what dumb people say every time when they get called out for failing to figure out basic themes or character motivations.
what the fuck was even the point of making Magneto a villain again and then now he's a hero again??!?!?
Fusion xmen?
I don't like most of Hickman's work, but at least it's not more fucking Rosenberg and "hey kids, remember Claremont? We sure hope you don't!"
The point is to downplay recent X-Men bullshit as much as possible.
Guesses: What do you think this means? What's the hook? The new direction? etc
> it's 2019 and there is STILL the autistic hackmanfag who is forever triggered and SEETHING to this day
I don’t give a single fuck about the Muties, but I like Hickman’s sci-fi autism so I’ll be getting these.
Rosenberg's the best X-Men writer of the decade
> intertwining
get ready for the reading order charts
Hickman knows how to create epic story beats in a cinematic way. Im excited. You sir (or mam depending how far down the trans path you've gone) are a little fucking bitch. #Fuckyou
Everything he has done has been terrible.
But now you've got me trying to think of what good X-Men comics there have been in the last decade and I'm getting depressed by how short the list is.
>doomwank is best storytelling
As expected from a Marvel semen guzzler.
As if Magneto hasn't always been in the revolving door between villain and hero ever since Claremont gave him a backstory.
I like Kibblesmith's Lockjaw and BP vs DP was one of the better DP minis. Bazaldua has neat art as well so I'm expecting this to be decent.
Can't measure up to Ewing's run or even Gillen's tho.
Teen Jean is back?
As one of the few people who liked Vote Loki, I'm still disappointed at the idea of giving Loki to anyone who isn't Ewing or Gillen
will look nicer than Hasting's mini
>The point is to downplay recent X-Men bullshit as much as possible.
They'd have to go back all the way to right after the ending of xmen vs avengers for that.
>keeping AvX
>not going past Schism
But why
Love how a human killer is allowed in xmen.
>Loki dies in a bloated Asgard-related event but he had some backup keikaku which gets detailed in a new ongoing with a new direction penned by an indie writer who wrote a couple of interesting minis
I feel like this has happened before
They and the Avengers keep Wolverine and that guy has probably killed more people than Magneto.
got a hankerin' for a frankerin'
Hi, Tommy.
>up to Ewing's run or even Gillen's tho.
Is Ewing's run really better than Gillen's JiM?
He's had black nails since his JMS redesign after Civil War 1. Before that he mostly had gloves, so hard to say.
Its ok for avengers. But xmen keeping mags is bad publicly. Hopefully xmen just go full amoral.
More Loki is good I guess, but I feel like we've already done this story and this writer doesn't fill me with hope.
I'd put them similar. Perhaps saying or even implies I think far less of Gillen, which I don't. Didn't mean it that way. But I do think the ending to Ewing's run is perhaps the best part of that entire trilogy and some of the cleverest Loki committed to page.
No. Ewing sucks.
No.
>indie
Pfffttt
wow that's a lot of bald people
Why does Hickman have such a fetish for mastermind characters with oval helmets?
I love Hickman's avengers util he got tired of the meddling, but I don't see him being able to handle the X-Men at all
4 somewhat white dudes and a white girl in feminine clothes.
Based hickman btfo out sjws.
Somewhat?
This. Yea Forumsmblr is finished.
So fucking bored of fat girl bait anti hero Loki already. He doesn't even match the character in the movies the fatties schlick to. Bring back villain Loki please
Mags a based jew like miller.
A new Loki antihero book in time for the Disney+ series was inevitable. Marvel will also announce a Falcon/Bucky book soon.
Where the fuck is the god of stories ? The good thing is we still haven’t seen where that door he made with the marker took him.
I love the Marvel Girl costume but it doesn't work for adult Jean Grey
Why can't they just bring back the Brotherhood. We didn't even get them appearing in a story before Magneto got stolen for the X-Man shit.
Don't turn Yea Forums into a house of lies, user.
So... it's Bishop and Jean son/daughter, right?
They put Magneto and Exodus on the same team, Marvel usually avoid doing that, they're too powerful together.
>god of mischief
GOD OF STORIES you sacks of shit
Multiple Man was good, but his X-Men is dogshit. Its like he can't stop himself from fucking up on X-Men
Its just two six issue minis. It isn't a long run or anything.
It's good but no.
The team also has Elixir and Unuscione who is basically Armour except her forcefield also has Miles Spider-Zap thing attached to it making them good enough to curbstomp basically anything short of a reality warper like Legion.
Plus Asteroid M is currently fully manned by an army of mutants who had their X-Gene forcible reactivated by Mothervine.
Has it leaked who that's supposed to be? Guessing some future incest child of Illyanna and Piotr, but with Dani's braids?
>PLUS: The saga of the Future Foundation by Jeremy Whitley and Wil Robson!
>Jeremy Whitley
Let me guess... Nadia and the G.I.R.L.S will be new members of the Future Foundation? desu I want to see Nadia talking shit about Reed, since she's the daughter of Pym and a Doom fangirl.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK YOU HICKMAN! You were supposed to destroy the Degenerates; not join them! Bring balance back to the Big 2, not leave them in darkness!
Fuck I hate casuals like you. Sagas are story summaries.
This sounds awful and I can already see all the hallmarks of another boring Hickman comic.
>secret history
>future shit
>complicated bullshit for the sake of complicated bullshit
>Xavier will just be an ersatz Reed
>we're all morally ambiguous
And so much more I'm sure.
Literally getting mad at nothing kek.
>Jean getting niggered is not only not retconned out of existence, but cemented by giving her a mutt
>angry over nothing
Oh fuck off upside-down Satan...
You're literally jumping to assumptions and getting mad over nothing, lol.
Jean is trash who cares
Wait, is that green haired girl the same one from Nightcrawler's AoXMan night club scene?
Right, now he's gonna kill Rocket, obviously. Always going for the trivial shock...
Remember all these dumbasses saying Cates could do no wrong and how he was bringing back Cosmic to DnA era, even after shit like Death of the Inhumans and Cosmic Ghost Rider? Where are they now? Probably still worshipping him and going all "OOH THIS IS GONNA BE DOPE".
He already used a bit of Immortal Hulk early on this run so we'll see how he handles him, but I'm not too keen on this.
Oh well, nothing particularly interesting for me, call me when there's a new, GOOD cosmic series.
The current run is good, what else do you want? Stop posting this shit.
Hickman already proved his worthlessness as a writer in his Avengers run. Fuck off.
It's actually not.
It is strange how most people turned on him at some point in his FF, Avengers or Secret Wars, yet now anyone's excited about him taking over X-Men, like nobody learned anything.
Why the fuck else would Jean walk some young, never before seen, mutt kid, by holding her hand? It’s obviously her AU mutt-daughter.
Fuck off Emma you plastic whore.
Who gives a fuck? I like his space autism you colossal faggot. Don’t you have anything better to do than spam the same shit ad infinitum?
>that round cerebro helmet
youtube.com
Dat ass tho.
>It’s obviously her AU mutt-daughter.
You're gonna feel real silly in three months when the comic's out and it's literally just some kid.
How was he supposed to bring balance to the Big 2 when he already wrote some of the worst Big 2 runs in history? You type like a little child.
They're his self-inserts.
>he already wrote some of the worst Big 2 runs in history
Not that guy but wow this is an extremely wrong take.
Yeah, I’m sure they just had her walking some kid. And more than that that’s the pic they decided to use as a promo. Total coincidence...
Christ Tommeh, nobody cares.
These 2 artists are such blatant immonen clones
I'm not a huge fan of guardians of the galaxy, but the new series has been pretty good, not gonna lie.
So Cosmic Ghost Rider will be 616 now?
Jesus christ.
>I'm not a huge fan of guardians of the galaxy
We can tell.
If all the leaks for upcoming shows are true, expect Marvel to launch new comics for Sif, Hawkeye, Rocket/Groot, Nick Fury, and Nebula/Gamora, but nothing for Scarlet Witch/Vision.
>I'm not a huge fan of guardians of the galaxy
This definitely explains why you like it, then. Just like those who enjoyed Bendis' long ass garbage run.
He IS 616. And thanks to Cates he's also the one who taught Thanos how to fight as a baby, ON 616.
Why do you even care so much about something so trivial lol.
can Jean go back to being dead please
>And thanks to Cates he's also the one who taught Thanos how to fight as a baby, ON 616.
How do you teach a baby to fight? They can't even stand up or feed themselves.
Marvel's handling of her has been so bad that even fans are thinking maybe that would be better.
Both the X-Hickman #1's will have 40 pages
and the full versions of the solicits (minus the variant cover information, pages, and pricing): newsarama.com
Ongoing
Five-issue mini
Bait
It clearly wasn't a baby but an intelligent toddler in the shape of one, because he could speak and reason without problems. But when questioned about it, Cates shrugged it off by saying, "he was too young to remember any of this anyway" (on Twitter, obviously), showing once again how shit of a writer he clearly is.
>Dani becomes Magik AND Colossus
>Nightcrawler fuses with his dad
>Husk/Hope+some guy
what the fuck is this book
because at least he'll be better than literally everyone since AvX
It’s interesting that Bunn had Magneto break off from the X-Men and go back to running the Brotherhood only for 2 consecutive X-Men story events to put him back with the X-Men
Wait that's Omega Sentinel's suit that bald girl is wearing
How do you not know that Magneto is jewish? Haven’t you seen any movie with him?
Something that’s really striking to me is if you compare this cover to Morrison’s first issue and Whedon’s first issue you realize Hickman has the single most boiled down to the most important characters you can get. And I’m not a Jean fan but with the Phoenix and everything I think she belongs there. Also like the slight upgrade to Wolverine’s suit.
It's almost like X-Men in a complete blender. I honestly can't make heads or tails of this.
14 years of readers had only known him as one of the X-Men, or an ally of them. Despite Bunn building to it over 5 years, if Yea Forums's meltdown at Magneto reverting to a villain was reflective of fandom as a whole, Marvel may have quietly backed out of it and abandoned the new Brotherhood.
The costumes from different eras, and the fusion characters make it look like Hickman could be doing some time travel or AU storyline.
Kinda like with Emma being turned into a Cyclops obsessed yandere type complete with the strange Judge Dredd costume. That look was never seen again after the ending of IvX
The Dani/Illyana/Piotr mashup looks like it might have some Rachel in there too
She's in a weird position where editorial wants her to be a villain (and after IvX, Secret Empire and X-Men Blue, it's hard for her to be anything else), but most writers aren't fully on board and want to keeping having the X-Men turn to her for help. As with Magneto, you have a generation of readers that considers her one of the core X-Men, and they probably outnumber the remaining older fans.
Is he Jewish or a Gyppo? I always confused that since Wanda and Pietro were Gyppos... weren't they? Though they're not his kids and mutants now or something
Supposedly that was the plan until the X-Men office does what it does EVENTS!!!
Poor Loki. They cant keep his shit straight.
Good that outfit was the drizzling shits
Got a highlight thread of that meltdown?
We always had interesting replacement redheads so it was unneeded.
He was a Gyppo when they first introduced the Holocaust backstory but sometime in the 80s they changed him to a jew
Maybe it's Daria, a Prime Sentinel that Jubilee befriended and helped escape from Bastion during Operation: Zero Tolerance. I'd doubt it but whatever.
In Emma's case the only person who wants her as a villain is Jordan White. Literally everyone else, from fans to writers, hates it.
Well Magneto's been an enemy as often as he's been an ally. With Emma though, she'd been a hero for over 20-25 years (depending on if you think her redemption started with the Phalanx Covenant or when she was put into the coma years earlier) when they pulled that shit with her. By that point she'd been one of the core X-Men and Cyclops' love interest for like 15 years. She's been a hero far, far longer than she was a villain and a lot of people liked her as the witty and ruthlessly pragmatic co-leader of the X-Men.
It was a change wanted by nobody but one guy and unfortunately that one guy's the editor and thus the one calling all the shots.
German.
He was also xorn but wasnt but now is but isnt again.
Visor similar.
>superstrong and indestructible osmium metal slav-native american valkyrie, wielder of the psychic-soulsword Dani Moonstar
and the worst part is dani's attitude. holy fucking shit, you just don't fuck with this being
We’re just gonna call it Power of 10 right? how long will it take to find out who Magik-Collosus-Dani is? And Red Nightcrawler, who I would’ve sworn was Azreal.
So what happened to Charles implanted in Red Skull's brain AXIS whatever?, I think that's when I dropped comics.
Eat shit, the Rosenberg is great
This is what I am most excited for
>Powers of X
>Powers of ten
>Every OC character is fusion of ten characters
Pottery
Relax son, it's only a drawing.
why don't you make sure you keep your bloodline pure by marrying an Aryan woman instead of ranting about the interracial progeny of NON Human characters?
Shit. So much for having them finally back. Gonna be another long few years without a decent X-Men comic, life's too fucking short.
Fuck that too.
Huh, you're right. Good catch. So that means the person on the far left might be Cyclops.
They've already said that Hickman has around ~35 charts made and ready to go.
Well, for one thing, I'm not Nordic. I do love the blondes, and redheads most of all, but were I to aim for such a woman I'd be a hypocritical dick, so I'll stay away. I'm a Yuropoor, but these women aren't that common around my parts, so... Not that I don't like brunettes, I do, I just like short haired blondes a whole lot. And short haired brunettes too, especially with blue eyes. Not that I mind brown eyes. Honestly, I don't have very high standards. I mean, it'd be nice if we were all GigaChads and Stacies, but that's just not possible. People have strong and weak points. Some gal will have a better face but mediocre tits, some other will have a tight butt and a nice body but a meh face, and so on and so forth. I'm not really a"must have x, y, z, etc at this point and above" guy. It's cruel, I think. The only thing I "demand" is being white. And that's even when talking physical attractiveness, so we still have character to account for. I have an "overall" standard, but like I said, that's a sum of all of a person's traits. So, like I said, I'm not picky. I doubt I even have a type.
Apart from that, I have trust issues and am far too paranoid. Also, I have a tendency to imagine ills, so I've convinced myself I'm probably sterile. Plus,I've got body dysmorphia. One minute I think I'm 8+, the next I'm a gremlin. And it's not like I'll ever know, so... I have my work, and that's alright, really. Not everyone gets a happy ending. I'd be a terrible husband, and the ship has sailled anyhow. I'm too scared at this point and I'm content with being alone. I just wish my parents would stop calling me every day to tell me to "have sex". It's been going on for 3 years now... I go to bed at night and hug my blanket, pretending it's a woman who could like me. But I know that's impossible, for a myriad of reasons. I sob, have some nightmares and wake up 3 hours later to resume my work. It is what it is.
Jesus Christ user, he was asking a question, not for front row tickets to the self-pity parade.
nice pasta
Why does everyone think that girl student is Jean's and Bishop's daughter? Maybe it's just random mutant there. Jeez Yea Forums
I mean, Hickman could write with his usual timeskips (Time Runs Out) or whatever but rly nigga?
I take these chances whenever I find them. It's like spilling my guts to a psychologist without paying anymoney or getting embarassed!
Why would it be a pasta? Pastas are more over the top and aren't accompanied by vids and whatnot. That's 100% my autism.
Can you make graphs to prove that?
X-Office failing to do anything with the supposedly new status quo they set up, only to backpedal immediately? That's been par to course with the past ten years or so.
This is a terrible choice. Hickman is no where near a good character writer (Just see how boring his FF was) and that’s what you want in X-Men books. Expect shit character development with overcomplicated pretentious plots.
I mean look at fucking this
>Charles Xavier reveals his master plan for mutantkind…one that will bring mutants out of the shadow of mankind and into the light once more.
The fact that it’s FROM Charles Xavier will matter little, what matters it’s what the plan is in ITSELF.
Rosenberg is a far better nostalgia trip than the previous Guggenheim Gold era was.
>X-men decimated
>Mutants discriminated far more widely
>quirky team roster
>Actually somewhat okay story direction
The only minus is the art.
>Hickman knows how to create epic story beats in a cinematic way.
Yeah as a pitch, but on paper it's empty and void of substance and soul because he's shit at writing characters and using them as anything other than chess pieces. And the epic stuff is completely superfluous technojargon and uninteresting in itself.
Eh it think they are using Immonen's inker/colorist and that is making them seem more like Immonen then their own line work especially Larraz.
That being said Immonen is fantastic and now retired so I will happily accept some competent artist that look similar to him.
i know right? the fact that people are used to him and isn't giving (You) to his baits really shows how tired this board is from his dumbness.
>>I'm not a huge fan of guardians of the galaxy
>This definitely explains why you like it, then. Just like those who enjoyed Bendis' long ass garbage run.
Except the current run & Bendis's run are extremely different and the current run is a lot more serious and closer to Annihilation then Bendis's run.
>bring balance to the Big 2
But he won't. DC is already too low, if anything this just bury it deeper.
I'd say his over reliance on character deaths as a way to keep the stakes high is a bit tiring too. Basically everyone in the team except Logan, Scott and Jaime being basically just window dressing is a bit annoying too.
>X-men decimated
Again
>Mutants discriminated far more widely
Again
>quirky team roster
With the biggest standbys at the center
>Actually somewhat okay story direction
I just completely disagree
They're the same insofar as they both have a blatant disregard for continuity, mischaracterization, and outright terrible, uninspiring storytelling. The fact that you think it's any closer to Annihilation (which wasn't even a GOTG book) just because it's more "serious" tells me you barely even read it, since the current run is edgy for the sake of it and doesn't even take itself seriously at that.
Oh for god’s sake, he tries to murder a red head girl for years and they let him impregnate her older look alike and kind of grandmother? Who think this is ok?
Cuckolds.
This, no meme. Look at how Marvel's been treating married couples for some time, now.
I wonder which cuck has the position to push the whole line in that direction.
>tommy still haven't left the thread
Hickman, Doom and Marvel living in your head RENT FREE
And what's this cuck talking? Still mad about Slade cucking Batman and making him raise his bastard kid?
It's way better than most of the direction in the past, I don't know, nine years.
Capeshit has always been just soap operas in tights. It's just that now they're adding blacked to the cucking. It's always some nog shagging a blonde/ginger woman. Just walk away user, none of this is worth it.
Pass a brotha some leaks
Everyone knows that, and yet we havent been this hyped since Morrison.
People were hyped about morrison? Are you saying they weren't hyped for the Messiah trilogy days?
They used to have more limits to it, though. People meme a lot about Logan x Jean but it was pretty much off-limits until morrison, for instance. They even passed the perfect opportunity for Vision x Wanda synergy just to replace it with cuck ships.
My money would be on Amanat pushing the BLACKED fetish since bendis and quesada are gone, but I dunno, maybe Marvel editorial meetings are just huge cuck orgy meetings that would make the Hellfire Club disgusted or something.
Sounds like this tommy and Slade have been freeloading in your head, actually.
Kid Loki was fun, though.
Sounds like this Tommy guy is living in YOUR head rent free, Yea Forumsie.
I mean DC started it with new 52. Marvel's playing catchup.
Well DC started hating marriage with the edgy 2000s, but Marvel was sort on the same page.
But yeah, it really ramped up in Nu52 I guess.
It's almost guaranteed.
Who's we, kemosabe?
That never happened. Damian is Bruce’s kid. Scott’s kid couldn’t be black. Nor Logan’s even.
And that's a good thing.
...wait, Ben's getting married?
He's already married, since like issue 3 or four or the new run.
oh wow
>People were hyped about morrison? Are you saying they weren't hyped for the Messiah trilogy days?
People were super hyped for Morrison because of who he is and how he never wrote those characters as well as the hype from the movie. Messiah Complex was anywhere near as hyped until it came out, especially once the story got going and people were invested. The expectations weren’t set so high like New X-men
What DC did with the marriages was bullshit but at least Lois never had any kids with someone else in New 52. Jean having Bishop’s kid is beyond disgusting.
Jeez user, get with the program! Red hair and pale skin are icky. Better go make some “beautiful” mixed babies. It is disgusting, I know, but you just have to look at a picture of the guy’s who wrote the issue where Jean gets niggered to understand. How furiously do you think they jerked off when writing that part, you think?
So? Jean isnt actually married or dating Scott. Would you consider it cheating if Scott goes back to banging Emma?
Yep, they will totally ignore the V&SW series while synergizing like crazy for anything else.
You don't speak for all of us, there are readers who always hated her.
Oh my god that’s exactly what I pictured
Scott had already fallen for Emma and it took Jean’s ghost giving him a push from beyond the grave to accept that it was okay to move on and start banging her. And even then they never made him have any kids with her.
>well technically she died so they aren’t married
Is that really what your going to go with? Because she’s died and come back before. Also people who get married usually see it as something more than a certificate that expires when someone dies or is declared dead, usually it actually fucking means something. In marvel time Jean was back for like two months and before Scott came back. There is no reason for these cock sucking faggots to write this perverted fetish shit.
>And even then they never made him have any kids with her.
They actually went to the lengths of making it canon Emma can't have children, Sublime had extracted all her eggs and used them to make clones of her, the Cuckoos are the ones that survived.
Oh boy lazy Hickman retcons that don't make any sense at all but they have a chart.
This costume making sjw seethes.
>Oh my god that’s exactly what I pictured
Yup. It's sad, and amusing all the same.
This entirely depends on whether the writer wants to keep the couple together or not. There are Spider-Man comics where MJ is believed to have died in a plane crash, she's later found alive, Peter and MJ are still married, there's no question about it. Around the same time for Marvel, there are Avengers comics where it's being argued that Vision and Scarlet Witch were no longer married after he had died and come back, because the writer wanted to push another pairing, with actual cuckold fetish scenes. Editorial used to stop writers crossing lines like that.
>Oh my god that’s exactly what I pictured
Why can't any of them ever smile properly?
It's easily Jean's worst costume.
Somehow you managed to spell "best" wrong. Don't worry, it can happen to anyone.
It's so corny, it should stay in the 60s where it belongs.
You're the only person here who likes this dull ass shit. Spamming it doesn't make it any less terrible.
You don't get to declare something seminal before it even happens.
No, there are at least two of us here.
Giant size xmen did, and so did Morrison era in adverts.
>Remember the time we tried pushing the Inhumans? Remember when we had, like, three or four Inhumans ongoings and even a few events that put them at the center of attention? Boy, if only we knew then what we know now. We wouldn't have wasted so much time!
They've had years to prepare, instead Vision is dying and Zub is being allowed to keep doubling-down on his pathetic Wanda/Voodoo ship. X-Men and Spider-Man fans think they're they ones who've been victimized by Marvel?
They claimed X-Men #1 was going to be the biggest comic ever, a record it still holds almost thirty years later
The trouble is that all those million-selling books broke records for numbers of issues bought by stores, the numbers of issues sold on to customers weren't as high. As well as they did sell, the number ordered was so much higher. The 1990s #1s of Spider-Man, X-Men, X-Force, and most of the early Image #1s will never be worth anything because the print runs were so high.
based hickman will slap the wanda/voodoo ship out of zub's hands and restore glorious mutant heritage to both wanda and peitro now that he has the merger iscomplete
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>keeps the NEGROED pairing canon
No chance in hell he's gonna care about the Twins. They're not even in the promo pic from a month back.
we have magneto front and center in #1
the kids will inevitably be addressed
I don't see why. Magneto is always front and center. The kids have been retconned for about 4 years now. If they don't care about it, they won't do it. Hickman's OCs are there. The coalburner and the negro are there, now along with their mutt. The twins aren't. You can't predict anything at this point. Especially since Marvel has no use for them now. Pietro's dead in the MCU and Wanda's getting shoved to a series. You think they'll unearth them 5 years later? They'll just push Lorna.
Just because discontinuity is par for the course doesn't mean it should be hand waved away as acceptable.
Why oh why did Zub have to shit up Psylocke by undoing the body swap.
Hoo boy, I see it... still pretty sure the problem's higher in the food chain.
The X-Men: Red costume looked worse.
Once he announced his intentions ("I'm gonna kill the most mutants in one page!" or something alike) it was clear he had no clue what he was doing. I remember being crazy hyped for Messiah CompleX when they first talked about it on CBR, might've been for a mention of Cable or Sinister coming back or something like that. Might've been the promotional stained glass art.
>X-Men and Spider-Man fans think they're they ones who've been victimized by Marvel?
Wanda will always be part of the X-Men franchise as well, screw it.
user, that was cultural appropriation, and that's terrible!
this is obviously a time travel story, and hickman likes long slow burns, we have no idea where it's going to go but unless the avengers-editors are that protective of wanda, i have faith. the kids were only retconned because ike didn't have the x-rights, we all know it
also more lorna isn't a bad thing either
Was it also problematic?
basically every other x-men book mentioned there was shilled as something huge, and indeed it was
it's basically confirmed by some dude on CBR who usually leaks this kind of stuff that yes, it will be adressed. We don't know how, but it will. I'll search for proof
What will be adressed? Jean getting niggered or the twins?
I guess. You could very well be right.
here's the post, notice the date (january), and how he mentioned something house of m-type of thing
Ah, I see. Yeah, I kinda remember the guy and he's spot on most of the time.
Yeah, he might type like a retard, but he has legit sources.
Toxic, even. Looking at her in that asian body got me literally shaking quite a few times.
>Looking at her in that asian body got me literally shaking quite a few times.
You should blog about it.
>Wanda will always be part of the X-Men franchise as well, screw it.
She's an X-Men character in the same way Kingpin is a Spider-Man character, or Mantis is an Avengers character. She might appear there occasionally, but it hasn't been her home for decades.
After House of M, there is no good that can come from dragging her back into the X-books, just people wanting her 'punished', or Magneto fans wanting him to have all his children back, a lot of them don't seem to actually care about Wanda or Pietro except their connection to him.
I've never seen a photo of Zub, but I imagine seeing a picture of him would answer questions on why he changed Psylocke, and why he's pushing a Scarlet Witch/Brother Voodoo ship.
That kind of change comes from/is approved by editorial. Claremont tried to do it in the 00s and was told no because editorial at the time thought Asian Betsy had become her iconic look.
Was that when Jamie brought her back? That would have made sense.
Isn't Kingpin used in Spider-Man these days? Kind of a shame.
That's literally what Twitter is for!
>That's literally what Twitter is for!
Libshits keep getting my accounts suspended tho.
>He already used a bit of Immortal Hulk early on this run so we'll see how he handles him, but I'm not too keen on this
No, he used regular dumb Hulk, he doesn't care about any books that aren't his.
The Kingpin as mayor of New York storyline has given him more appearances in the books of New York-based heroes, including Spencer's Spider-Man. Before that, Slott used Kingpin more than the average Spider-Man writer, but Daredevil has been his 'home' title since Frank Miller's run on the book, and he's part of the Daredevil license for movies, television and games.
>No, he used regular dumb Hulk
That wasn't dumb Hulk the one who appeared during the fight against the Griever.
Tell me your suspicions user.
Zub claims it was his idea without any editorial suggestion, I'm inclined to believe him.
I'd be shocked if he doesn't look like one of the creatures in this pic
I am too lazy to reread that, but as i remember he got too carried away smashing and accidentally destroyed their way home and then blamed it on Johnny. That doesn't fit too good with the Immortal Hulk's character.
You probably should, because he was killing some enemies then turned around and said "I was never here" before teleporting. They (not Hulk) destroyed their way home on purpose, because The Griever, being an Abstract as she is, Avatar of Oblivion, can't rebuild, only destroy.
Lol yeah I think you might be right.
Duggan is writing it. I am interested.
We're more likely to see Wiccan hook up with Death's Head than Wanda and Vision get back together in any form.
The obvious questions in response are "Why is this? Why have Marvel writers and editors spent almost 30 years fighting against what fans want? Why have they spent most of that time mistreating these characters, and pushing things the fans don't want?", and "Wiccan and Death's Head? That's random. How would they even meet?" Marvel will never break Wiccan and Hulkling up anyway, they'd be terrified of the reaction.
>We're more likely to see Wiccan hook up with Death's Head than Wanda and Vision get back together in any form.
Somewhere Kieron Gillen just got a boner.
Only for Al Ewing
Hickman, and indeed most of Marvel's current roster of writers, have no interest in Wanda at all. She was completely absent from his Avengers run, and totally ignored by him during Secret Wars.
It's only worth undoing the retcon if they do something interesting with it and don't make it entirely about Magneto, which is unlikely, as it's Mags who writers are interested in, not Wanda or Pietro.
>It's only worth undoing the retcon if they do something interesting with it and don't make it entirely about Magneto, which is unlikely, as it's Mags who writers are interested in, not Wanda or Pietro.
That's true, but it's the type of retcon some Magneto writer is likely to undo for the sake of undoing it, rather than having any actual plans for the twins.
What I meant was that's a measure of how unlikely it is for them to return to Vizh and Wanda, not that I thought DH and Wiccan would hook up, as that's unlikely.
The team up isn't as random as it might seem; Death's Head has alot in common with both Wanda and Vision, given DH was the mechanoid vessel of a sorcerer called Lupex, whose mystic energies could not be contained in his organic body. Lupex is kind of Ultron and Chthon rolled into one.
Billy and DH are both "sons" of sorceresses.
"Shall I lube you up before I put it in your butthole, yes?"
>What I meant was that's a measure of how unlikely it is for them to return to Vizh and Wanda
And it really shouldn't be that difficult or unlikely, if not for an entrenched resistance to it at Marvel, that exists on an editorial level, and in every writer that gets to handle them.
Lube is not a preference! You ALWAYS use lube for buttstuff.
>Lupex is kind of Ultron and Chthon rolled into one.
That sounds kinda pretty cool, surprised he doesn't get used a lot.
white incels BTFO
BLACKED lol
>woman lusts for the savage brute who tried to murder her family
more redpilled than I expected from Marvel desu
Looks like duggan kino is back on menu boys.
Can't believe there's people here who STILL think Marvel cares about retconning Pietro and Wanda's origins once again.
We have X-Men fans and the occasional Quicksilver fan who want it changed back, and we have Wanda fans who want her kept away from X-books and mutants. But the current origin left their father unknown, which has left people expecting it to be Magneto again. It's a loose end some writer or editor is going to eventually decide needs to be dealt with.
>we have Wanda fans who want her kept away from X-books and mutants
As she should be, to be quite honest. She's barely getting the attention she deserves in No Road Home and YET it's better than whatever I imagine they would make her do in a mutant book.
>But the current origin left their father unknown
You mean the Quicksilver mini?
Bros, Marvel just announced a new media partnership. I’m gotta say, I’m fucking excited as fuck.
>Spamming this shit in multiple threads.
You're a sad little thing, aren't you?
Fucking based. My itty bitty pink dickly-willy gets rock hard just imagining the muscular Bee-Bee-Cee stretching out the pink ginger pussy. White “”””men”””” should just become traps already.
Shut the fuck up, white boi.
what’s sad is that Marvel hasn’t done this across the board with their entire line. It’s 2019, for fuck’s sake. Why doesn’t Mary Jane have a black bf? Why doesn’t she get with Miles? Why is Sue Storm still with Reed? Just fucking awful. They need to step it up if they’re going to call themselves socially aware.
Go to bed, bendis.
The Chartslord is back, this time to save the X-Men. The shogun be praised.
>You mean the Quicksilver mini?
No, Robinson's Scarlet Witch solo is still the current origin. The Quicksilver mini didn't make any origin changes, it just changed Pietro's personality.
It'll matter insomuch as Xavier being a slightly amoral and autistic but ultimately heroic genius figure doing what he does because of some secret history bullshit involving some heretofore unknown cosmic threat because every fucking leader Hickman writes is an obvious self-insert in regards to how he likely thinks of himself.
I'm not hyped at all. X-Men thrives on character drama, something Hickman sucks at. Jordan White is still the editor of the entire line. Typical shuffling deck chairs around only now with the smoke and mirrors of a big name writer added to the mix.
Please go away Kurt Busiek.
If you think that really was Zub's idea then I don't know what to tell you. Although I'll only have a problem with it if absolutely nothing is done with Kwannon since Psylocke sucks but Kwannon's actually a pretty good character.
Well he claims it was, he stated he formulated and put the idea to editorial. He also claims to be a Psylocke fan, so...
emma is a stupid incompetent slut who has FAILED at every single leadership position she's given
massachussets academy? DEAD KIDS
hellions? DEAD KIDS
generation x? DEAD KIDS
taking personal care of the cuckoos? DEAD KIDS
the only reason she's in charge is because she was cyclop's cocksleeve. rogue, kitty, storm, rachel, literally anybody would've been a better headmistress. definition of failing upward because her "fans' just like a slutty costume
>Why doesn’t Mary Jane have a black bf
I believe she did around the SpOck era. Some Black fire fighter guy? I'd like to think She only did it to punish herself for allowing Peter to sell their marriage to satan, and by allowing herself to be practically raped each night hope to atone for her sin. Now that peter's coming to his senses she's went back to rightful husband.
Y'all have issues.
To be fair I'm solidly anti-OMD, so I'd think the same if it was any body of any skin color with a muscular build. And if it was another nerd it would because she desperately misses Peter.
This gets right to the real problem. Popular couples that fans want to see together being kept apart makes fans angry, and readers seeing their waifu with the "wrong" man makes fans angrier. Marvel have figured out that if that "wrong" man is black, they can dismiss that anger as racism, and not have to address it.
It's either that, or /pol/ are right about it being a media-wide conspiracy someone is pushing.
To be fair, pairing Jean with a guy who committed wholesale genocide to murder her daughter is a fairly justifiable reason for not liking the pairing. Though desu half the time that just feels like concern trolling to hide the fact that they don't like their Jeannie dating black men.
I'm also against pairing Blob and Psylocke because Blob has been characterized as a fucking rapist and a junkie. Am i in the clear?
I'd just like to note if go back and read the stories from the 70's where Wanda and Vis hook up and get married, Her dating an Android is totally treated as a stand in for an interracial relationship that they can get away without southern convenience stores pulling it from their spinner racks. You can totally replace android/robot for black guy or any given racial slur in any given reaction to people finding out she's dating vision without missing a beat. Something to chew on.
>feels like concern trolling to hide the fact that they don't like their Jeannie dating black men.
Some of them are going to want her with Cyclops, some with Wolverine, but they're all going to agree on nobody else being an acceptable option. Marvel are basically trolling fans, and dismissing their anger as racism is exactly what they want.
Yet in the more progressive and woke time in which we live, it's this pairing that Marvel themselves hate, while fans dislike seeing them with other people.
To be fair, it's working.
But to what end? What is the purpose? What goal is achieved by angering readers and driving them away? This is an insane way to do business.
Didn't this bitch embrace the crazy firebird of death? All that killing bishop did probably turned her on , I mean didn't she always have a secret thing for that hairy little psycho?
If fans don't like seeing a character with the wrong person, it's not unusual for them to drag up every bad thing they ever did as reason why they're not worthy. Blob and Bishop have both done some truly unforgiveable things, and in recent years, not in some obscure stories from decades ago, making them easy to object to being in a relationship with anyone.
I mean of course that's the other counter-argument; her other one true partner, Wolverine, also has a bodycount in the hundreds, if not thousands, and has also tried to murder one of her daughters under the same reasoning that Bishop had for wanting to kill Hope, yet plenty of people think that he's her one true partner.
We can actually have her date a human being of another race now. If you want to lie and claim that her fucking a robot is somehow good because it's a stand in for interracial relationships.
Let's be honest. Everyone thought that shit was fucking gross. No amount of claiming that it's interracial stand in to slip it under the radar is going to make it not fucked up.
Shit, if you even HINT at a dude fucking a hot as fuck female android that he either built or found the progressives would have everyone's head on a fucking platter.
There's a reason why they didn't have antman...or was he calling himself the wasp then? anyway..
There's a reason why they didn't have him fuck wartoy and only hinted at it.
The backlash.
Millions. He's actually killed millions. Including his own bastard children. All to be honest, I'm not sure how many hundreds of of his children he's killed.
>We can actually have her date a human being of another race now.
And it's boring. Wanda with anyone not-Vision has been boring every time they've tried it, and nobody has wanted to read it.
This isn't the X-Men, where people care about it because of a metaphor, people cared about it because it was the superhero equivalent of a fairytale love story, they were invested in the characters. The only people who seem to be disgusted by it are the ones who started reading with the John Byrne issues that were TRYING to make people hate it. If everyone was disgusted by it, why aren't movie audiences outraged by it? Why are they getting their own series?
Nobody seemed to be outraged about the Hank Pym/Jocasta story you're talking about either.
I literally don't believe anything of the last few years of X-Men stories, or at least the larger decisions, being writer ideas. He can say he pitched it all he want but I won't actually believe it or at most will believe that it was "suggested" in a "I wonder what would happen if we put Psylocke back in her original body HINT HINT" way.
You know what'll be really nice? When Brisson fucks off and NuCable goes with him. Nobody fucking cares about that character.
Cable fan faggit from cbr.
isn't scarlet witch getting with conan in that new avengers book? I remember a bleeding cool article about it
She was about to in No Road Home but both backed out on it (She realizes it's wrong and Conan's still hung up over Belit). Savage Avengers is gonna put Conan in a team along with Brother Voodoo, her current BF, which will probably be awkward.
My main issue is with the event trying to portray such relationships positively as some sort of love conquers everything and shit. If they had portrayed as a fucked up thing with Bishop looking for redemption and Jean struggling for falling with a man that tried to kill her child i'd be okay with it. But it's just some dumb story about people being against love and sex, and hint hint interracial relationships. Same with the Blob and Psylocke thing. If it had been about two messed up people trying to rebuild their lives together and move on past their past mistakes, i'd be more up for it, but it's just about body positiveity, about how a even a disgusting fat man like Blob can find happiness with a hot chick like Psylocke.
Jesus Christ, incels, get a grip on reality.
They are not giving Jean and Bishop a kid. For one, the X-office is full of dudes who want to be Cyclops and would take such a thing personally, as you all are.
Secondly, there are no non-whites on the covers at all, least of all Bishop.
The blacks will have to settle for nameless background fodder.
Also, the mini-skirt IS Jean's second-best costume after Green Phoenix.
I can just tell this thread is full of folks that don't read comics.
this
eat dicks New X-Men fag
Forgot to make another point: the X-Men editor already alluded that the black kid isn't Jean's on Twitter.
Also, that kid is like 7-10 years old. They aren't aging the X-Men 10 years.
Use your brains.
To be fair, the other X-Men book Hickman's writing is alluding to time fuckery, so might be Jean's future daughter.
It won't be though, since they might as well just kill her off again here and now if they've already run so thin on ideas for what to do with her that they have to resort to making her a single mom.
Wanda and Vision is a relationship with alot of subtext (outsiders, Order & Chaos, two people trying to understand themselves through understanding each other) and at its core is the fact neither of them are human, but both are in different and similar ways very human. The "oddness" of them is the whole point, to challenge perception, to show love is not some narrow, easily definable thing.
I know its you nigger.
Why do people in this thread think Jean is going to have a kid?
I like NuCable. I like the idea that Cyclops and Jean can go back and have a better relationship with their son through time-fuckery. I like how his existence triggers everyone in X-Force.
Because they want something to be upset over.
How the fuck is House of M not a seminal moment in X-men history, even if it's been mostly undone at this point.
>Hickman FF
>Boring
Kek go back to reading your Geoff Johns and Benis comics
When Marvel comics got rid of Disney and will start to make good stories?
>Bendis
Also boring