They give it 15 episodes

Ashi is the single worst character Genndy has written. The problem is that they have very limited time in the final season, yet they also want to introduce a romance by any means necessary. So any parts of the plot outside of Ashi and Jack's "chemistry" become really useless throwaway foot-notes. (Scaramouche is a good example of this.)

Fuck, Jack doesn't even get a final fight with Aku. Fucking Family Guy's parody of Pulp Fiction was a better fight scene.

To be fair, Ashi might have worked in the series if they introduced her 2 seasons ago.

Ashi is irrelevant, the ending is ultimately retarded either way.
Here's how it should have happened:
>our Jack returns to the past before past Jack is thrown into the future
>grabs past Jack's hand as he is falling, rescuing him
>their two swords fuse into one because God magic says so
>our Jack realizes there is only one chosen hero, knows who it is, and willingly gives his past self the sword
>past Jack defeats Aku, saves his parents, and lives the life he deserved, dies a hero
>our Jack takes the portal into the future, and witnesses the idyllic utopia his efforts brought about, spends his temporal immortality exploring the universe and meeting the happier alternate versions of his old friends

Yea seemed like lazy writing to me. You give him this awesome bike and gun but do absolutely nothing with it after 1 episode. Season 5 was just nothing but missed potential

I never understood why didn’t have him go back before he got thrown into the portal. I’ve traded so many proposed endings and he majority of them were way better. Idk what he was thinking

I'm going to say no. While pacing was a problem, Genndy could have made it work in 10 episodes. If he had 5 extra episodes, he wouldn't spread it out more, he'd just fill it with more enfuriatingly off the walls stuff.

Everyone annoyed at the "Aku's future stops existing" idea are ignoring the fact that it could be a split timeline type deal and they still might exist in separate timelines and rebuild their world.

All of the bullshit with Ashi in the final episode kind of proves the the time travel rules aren't set in stone.

>His sick motorcycle, the guns, the armor. It just felt wrong.
You're forgetting the fact that he straight up forewent the weapon he had in the fight with the non-Ashi sisters. None of the shit he got and lost throughout the episode ever had meaning (save for maybe his original sword); it was all just a means to an end of getting back.

>still thinks it's about Ashi
It is about Jack erasing all his friends from existence.
That, and completely forgetting the foreshadowing in the prior seasons.

I honestly think they just needed one more episode for the big finale to breathe a little more.

I've always wondered why every opportunity he gets to go back, he has to worry about the consequences or save someone else despite that he'd just retcon everything anyway.

then they kill off Ashi which made it clearer

Because seasons 1-4 were made by a different Genndy, a Genndy who had an understanding of his own character. Or maybe he was not allowed to end the show, and had to keep it going. Probably both.

now i wonder if he had an alternate ending planned years ago, and if it involved Ashi at all

It is well known he had a movie ending in mind, and only years later did he decide to change and rewrite everything.

Fucking THIS. It is just much better plot device and stay more true to Jack's nature.

It really annoys me that Jack went back to the past at all. It makes me feel like the entire thing was fucking pointless. It was just sort of what Genndy wanted, not what would've been best ending. We spend the entire season on Genndy's new waifu who gets thrust into Jack's arms, Ashi becomes the big mcguffin that saves everything rather than it being something from Jack's own doing, Ashi gets to subvert the rules of reality for long enough that Jack gets to marry her, but all of this shit is completely surface level and holds literally no meaning. Ashi never existed, she doesn't matter. Everything from the future retroactively ceases to exist, going by the logic that Ashi also ceased to exist. Nothing really matters. Jack could've hopped into any of the many, many portals he passed up over the years, and it would be 1:1 the exact same ending, the only difference being that Jack wouldn't pine for some literally who that he met like a week prior.

Well, I would hope that they'd devote more than half of a single episode to the final battle against Aku and maybe deal with the Guardian in at least some sort of detail. That would really go a long way towards dealing with my biggest complaints about season five. However, as far as Ashi goes, I really don't think that the problems with her character can be boiled down to her not being fleshed out enough. It's more that her romance with Jack was told in a manner that was entirely incongruous with the way that Samurai Jack usually does storytelling. Basically, they talked too much, and the dialogue they shared just came across as clumsy.

This is spot-on, though. Ideally, he'd have just been her father figure. It's less weird given that he's supposed to be seventy-something, it makes for a nice parallel between Jack and Aku, and it would leave open the possibility of Jack getting with his actual waifu, that princess from the one flashback episode.

>are ignoring the fact that it could be a split timeline type deal
and you're ignoring that it WASN'T.

Wasn't that the plot of Onimusa 3?

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>they give it 3 episodes
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