Are animation storytime channels any good?

pretty sure speaking/writing skills > drawing skills. Sure, if art looks good it will help you get some attention, but if your story is bad, no one's going to keep coming.

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No

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How about just floofy?

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pop her cherry

eh, these guys are alright
their biography of lovecraft and his works was pretty fun and made me listen to his books

dont do it, his writing is shit and overhyped

the diaperfags only got away with it because everyone kept giving them attention

Pewdiepie is bottom of the barrel. Get some standards.

>Wanting your animation to look like a slideshow

I understand the appeal. They're just Reddit tier content, but in video form. I don't understand why not just go to some blog if you want to hear some "hilarious stories", but I guess it depends on the person.

If you've ever watched the news and thought, "this would go by faster if I read it", these aren't the types of videos for you. I've watched jaidens videos and they're cute but they go way too slow for me.

God she looks like a 40 something housewife with two kids.

MFW THE PU$$Y TO GOOD

is she stressed or what

youtu.be/LCodXAkNIGg?t=70

We're on Yea Forums, are standards are non-existent

Literally fucking Tomoko Kuroki.

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Not that user but I think it's not as much "Pewdiepie is good" as much as "fuck Youtube for trying to erase Pewdiepie's massive influence and legacy on their platform just cause they don't like his anti-PC beliefs"

Also the fact that Youtube tries to pretend to its stockholders that shit like Will Smith, Ninja, and John Oliver are "Youtube" but the actual biggest Youtuber apparently isn't.

nice hairline

>Yea Forums doesn't know that every human looks like a wretched crone from that exact camera position
>whoever was holding the camera didn't know that every human looks like a wretched crone from that exact camera position

hello from /cgl/, she probably looks fine irl

>PewDiePie

You have to be at least 18 to post here.

I highly doubt you're old enough to even cross the street unattended.

>B urself

lol

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Why? She's making upwards of 15k a month right now based on her views on ads alone (not to mention merch, deals, etc).

She's gonna be set for life.

I don't give a shit if it's a parody

I'm not going to fucking watch it.

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She even has the anxiety and body image issues.

I checked out his other vids and they sux.

Not that user
I consider him to be more trouble than he's worth.

He brings in controversy at a constant rate, his "campaign" is just an ego-boosting self congratulation campaign that was apparently never discovered, and for all of his soap-boxing about the independents, his behavior makes him a detriment to people smaller than him.

I keep forgetting people from tumblr and twitter browse this board.

Young Don is pretty comfy

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Back to >>>>tumblr

>Have none of those

But can you say I'm wrong?

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why do all the aco threads have lots of diaper shit with her

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if people would just put "vanilla" or "no diapers" in the title then you would be good

>but the actual biggest Youtuber apparently isn't.
Pewds is only ranked #10 on top views
socialblade.com/youtube/top/100/mostviewed
Arguably it is these kids channels that are the biggest money maker because they get family friendly toy ads that pay more to google.

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See

It just seems odd to me that these people who must have some ability to animate/draw would rather spend time talking about themselves rather than creating something completely different

It makes perfect sense because it makes a ton of money.

Youtube wants 10 minute long videos, and this is what they are.

degenerates

Make a poopy

I can't really get it mad at it i suppose, people can do what they want. It's my fault for actually wanting to make shit. It takes forever but I'd rather do that than make storytime vids.

whipped this up in 5 minutes

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I am partial to AmyRightMeow.

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I hate these channels so goddamn much that not even the memes mocking them get anything out of me.

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What about that chick who keeps talking about some guy who forced her to send nudes?

I live under a boulder

Redpill me.

I get that, but if animation online is your primary job then doing these will eat up all your time. If you got a real job and do the animatiomn on the side for fun then yea you can do whatever and not worry about ads.

Cute!

Wait, are you referring to those channels who animate the lives of other people?

ilymation
she has only made a few vids but 4 of them are about her abusive ex

I wasn't going to do this, but fine. Firstly though, you are so full of salt I bet if I threw you into a lake, all the fish would die.

>He brings in controversy at a constant rate
Yeah nah. He just acts like a normal person, but doesn't kowotow to social media crazies who expect everyone they shit on to apologize to them. The only controversy is deliberately manufactured out of spite and jealousy. Blue checkmarks the former, and dying news media the latter.
>his "campaign" is just an ego-boosting self congratulation campaign that was apparently never discovered
It's just a meme that he jumped on and turned into group thing. Sort of like a rallying cry really. Are you going to complain about the "9 year old army" label as well? How is this even a bad thing?
>his behavior makes him a detriment to people smaller than him.
E:R actually gained subscribers after the whole controversy (as did everyone else mentioned in the shoutout video). Also if you're gonna make vague claims like this, yer gonna need proof. Which I can already tell you don't have.

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what did she mean by hat

Largest number of subscribers carries more weight than toddlers autoplaying colorful ADHD-inducing Indian vomit

if you extend this to animations of youtubers in general, I do get a chuckle of my favorite LPer animateds

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>Blue checkmarks the former, and dying news media the latter.
So many asskissing C-list tv/e celebs talking shit but none of them post any evidence.
Pewds has made some mistakes in the past but he is still one of the most honest youtubers out there.
>E;R
The most annoying culture war spergs started following him after the shoutout "backlash".

No it doesn't
All that matters is CPM (ad revenue) and family friendly stuff brings in the big buxs, some of pewds vids arent even monetized because they are not "advertiser friendly"

>All that matters is CPM (ad revenue)
I'm talking in terms of cultural impact, not bottom line cash.

>1
First up, fix your grammar. What the fuck is a "kowotow"

Yes. I do agree that he does get shit on rather unfairly, but it's to be expected from someone as huge as him. He has a massive bullseye painted on his back so he has to keep his nose clean.

He doesn't keep his nose clean.

The Fiverr fiasco, dropping the N-word during the Fiverr fiasco, and putting Been Shapiro, a very controversial figure, in his video.

>2
Even better, he jumped on a meme he didn't even start. If what you're saying is correct, he took a meme meant specifically for him and expanded it to mean "liberty for the YouTuber"

He's suppose to embody the YouTuber?

I don't care about the 9 y/o army thing.
That's a joke that remained a joke

>3
Yes. It's cool that he provided exposure to people that could use it, but I'm talking long term.

Every YouTuber wants to make YouTube a job. To do so, they need to be paid and it's advertisers that provide that cash.

The controversies mean that advertisers can pull out while still being able to save face and when they come back after the controversy dies down, they can negotiate higher prices.

If PewDiePie, the largest YouTuber and (apparently) face of the platform, gets into hot water, the people who aren't in a position to get sponsor labels or are recognizable enough to make merch (which just so happen to be the people he claims to be fighting for) are fucked.

That's my hot take.

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You're not making a fool of me at 3am EST. I know this game you're playing.

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Jaden gets a pass because shes doing real animation instead of slideshow stuff.
Like check this out
First video
youtube.com/watch?v=ob44SAUf7dE&t
Latest video
youtube.com/watch?v=4H9jTQKmR3Q

The jump in quality is insane.

>Not reading my post because of reasons

And once again, it's been proven that a civilized discussion on the internet is futile.

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I honestly never watched those videos.

user if you want to stay here the least you could do is stop with the reddit spacing.

I'm not so much into game grumps anymore, but I recently saw this animated on their channel: youtube.com/watch?v=8M9MQ2jZtp4&
And I can't believe they put it on their official channel, it's obviously from some degenerate shipper, and its not even funny or anything.

>Reddit spacing

My frame of reference is too small

>cultural impact
Even then Pewds didn't innovate shit
He stole his editing style and most of his "shows" from other youtubers, most of the memes he highlights are made by people like Dolan Dark and other memelords.
When it comes to getting big business to take youtubers seriously you can credit pieces of shit like Defranco (created 1st MCN) and the Paul brothers as they have spent the most time convincing businesses that youtube is great for ads.

>Fiverr fiasco
He used some indian guys to insult Keemstar, everyone in the youtube community laughed, only outrage autists like Polygon complained.
>Ben Shapiro
Get over it faggot, Shapiro is only controversial to blue checkmarks on twitter.

Rampant false copyright claims, the broken Sub/notification system and secret channel classifications are more damaging to smaller youtubers than any controversy pewds was involved in.
>the people who aren't in a position to get sponsor labels or are recognizable enough to make merch
There is a laundry list of print on demand merch shops so you really don't have to be "big" to sell merch.
If they are small then they should still have a dayjob, worst comes to worst they could always livestream and make money through superchats or Text to Speech donos.
If they cant do any of that then they are not entertaining enough to make it anyways.

she hires animators to work on certain shots.

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they have been cultivating the "heterosexual" life partner brand for a long time now. why do you think Arin is more sexually agressive these days.

Its a joke about Light Novels and Dating Sims.

on the off chance that you arent just fucking with me.

its this shit

the needless extra line between your sustenance's

like this is some shitty collage essay

don't do this. now if you happen to have a large paragraph that goes on for some time its ok to space those out with an extra line, but otherwise you just look like an attention grubbing faggot. well more of one that normal.

>she hires animators to work on certain shots.
sauce on that senpai?

I've stopped following them for years, but if they wound up gay and have been fucking for years tomorrow, it'd be chuckle worthy at worst.

Well I'm going to sleep. Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow

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just check the credits. She's got a whole team of animators helping out each video, it's not a secret.

she plugged someone for a writing cred and a bunch of fan art. I dont see any animator credits.

youtube.com/watch?v=v0b2s_ot9_0

Lordbungs SCP animations (albeit not really storytime),

Problem is the first few videos he did were really limited animation (sorta like storytime were but with more detail).

But as he started to animate more and enjoy it, each episode started to take longer and longer. At the rate of time increase per episode due to quality its gonna be a long time before he finishes (and views havent really gone up despite quality increase).

check the description
section labeled "The Team" has a couple of freelance animators.

ah right i see now.
I think hes applying his effort in the wrong direction, the show didnt need better animation it needed better sound design.

have nothing to do

It's not built to last, YouTubers come and go and that cash can get blown throw in a few shakes. If she was smart she would have held a day job and/or continued college so she can have a career once her 15 mins are up.

It at least have animation

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People give so much shit to what's called the CalArts art style. Wait until this bitch gets to Hollywood and makes her shit the new easily-made, easily-sold "art style" that will appeal to the lowest common denominator.

>This faggot
At least Leafy was based, Turkeyfag started crying the moment people exposed his bs.

Domics is the only one with soul. Prove me wrong.

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You mean the girl that said she has no imagination? Yeah.

Some of their takes might send people eye-rolling though

No, but they're good for exposing peoples' mental illnesses.

He used to animate poorly in the beginning, but then he doubled down on his laziness and he became one of those "spritetubers". His current avatar/sprite isn't even drawn by himself, it's drawn by some 13 y/o girl on DeviantArt.

I enjoy Tabbes. Her videos are like green text stories, but she barely updates. Her fans are legit batshit, just visit her official Discord server and bask on their autism.

youtube.com/watch?v=BOsnrpGEM94

youtube.com/watch?v=vTsl1PDT49w

youtube.com/watch?v=f9ZY3k7VYfs

youtube.com/watch?v=4vmjxZrXvs0

youtube.com/watch?v=tZET0Jc58uo

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mattyburito sumerized it pretty well
youtube.com/watch?v=LCodXAkNIGg

are there any animators that aren't depressed despite having good lives

I had that reaction when Red started going on about trans and non-binary representation in Greek mythology. Also when she never misses a chance to tell you she’s asexual.

Looks obnoxious like every single other one.

>she's familiar with Yea Forums memes
That makes her especially awful. I never understood why Yea Forums likes cringe shit only when its "one of us". Stop encouraging the insufferable bullshit like that.

>She's making upwards of 15k a month right now
For fucks sake, she deserves it even less than the others doing this stuff. She doesn't deserve a single penny for this shit.

Because only autists like her.

Everything about this is fucking awful. Why does this board like the worst shit?

>it's another thread where Yea Forums gives attention to quirky obnoxious girls on youtube despite shitting on everything they do any other time if it isnt a cute quirky girl

She's pretty much everything wrong with youtuber storytimers.

Dios mio...

You don’t have to be so triggered over this shit. Most of the “people” here are really lonely, have no social skills, and hate women irl. These fantasies they have of online girls is the only thing they have from roping. Who cares what they think?

>that shit
>being called animation
This is FNAFHS level of bullshit

I-I dunno, I only watch Alex Clark and CircleToons because of the babysitter arc and the weird short videos Circle makes

>when people are defending and obsessing over quirky girls you STILL have to throw in they hate women

It's all gangster til the multi coloured static YouTube fursona avatar crosses it's arms

I had this idea of making a sort of fictional storytime channel, where my persona is fake and all the stories are also fictional, but the viewers don't know that. So at the beginning, everything is normal, just your dime a dozen bubbly storytime animator, but as time goes on, subtle hints get dropped about sinister things happening in this person's life (abuse etc.) that the perceptive viewers would pick up on. Not sure where to go beyond that, but it's a thought.
Too edgy? Been done before? I remember some people doing this sort of thing done with vlogging, but I've never seen this take on it.

thats insanely cringe worthy and if we lived in a timeline where it existed i'd opt to get rid of it over even ilymation or jaiden, maybe robobuddies too

Well geez man sorry I asked.

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You fuck, I want to do this first.

I already did it for about 3 months around 2009 and got 14 "episodes" in but Youtube did a thing and my account got suspended, when I got it back my channel was blank but my subscribers (like, 480 something) were still there. No one probably downloaded them to mirror which I'm thankful for because I did a fake reveal video that had too much cringe dark humor in it. No one cared but looking back it was an awful series of jokes.

You might get on some people's bad side by treating abuse as a kind of joke.

>She's pretty much everything wrong with youtuber storytimers.

How come?

See every overlap she has with the others and thats your answer.

What is the overlap? I don't follow these people, so I am out of the loop in drama.

>in drama
It's their videos not what ever e-celeb drama that gets pushed. I don't even know if Tabes has any drama but I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

Should i tell him the LS Mark / Turkey Tom drama, or that is old as fuck?

dont encourage e-celeb drama

Tell me more.

Nah, not really.
They are either aimed at kids or faggots without a life of their own, so I dont see the 'being taken seriously' part either.

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Jaiden os cool but all other channels are fucking trash.

That oddes1out has shit anymation, if any, and his stories are fucking trash. Also that other chick that only has videos talking how she was abused or something.

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For me is Rebecca

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I like thier classics summerised and trope talk stuff.
The historical thing is alittle less interesting to me.

So she's retarded and an attention whore, surprise surprise.

Nyeh, just search the names along with "stortime animators"
But if you are TL;DR...
LS and Turkey made a critic about the content, everyone gets butthurted, confirming their point

wow, that's a worse choice than jaiden

Welcome to Yea Forums, where
Waifubait will always beat quality

>you can only like women for their looks
nice one!

I would take 1 minute of her doing the absolute best she can with her animation skills rather than 10 videos of 15 minute commentaries about boring shit.

I keep getting Pewdiepie fanboys are probably old enough to post here now.

what kind of anxiety, the quirky internet anxiety or literal social retardation anxiety

its just a vlog with drawings

>join game
>one person has a twitch url as their name

I don't care if theres a leaving penalty, I don't fuck with this bullshit

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I would still do her

>tfw Katzun has pretty much given up making animations
>her brain injury made her retarded and now all she does is post lgbt propaganda on instagram

Make sure your gf can do an appealing voice and just make up stories that sound real but sympathetic. Throw in some unfunny meme editing and self deprecation jokes and you'll have the youtube audience eating out of your hands.

>tfw this faggots had more views than REAL animations, like Satina, Cliffside and Brain Dump
Why even live

You could always watch Chipflake.

youtube.com/watch?v=Y6-CVv9ocgA

youtube.com/watch?v=_9hdZ5x0YyY

Why does she (he?) sound like a robot?

I'll never understand why people get butthurt that somebody is getting views and money from youtube videos and they aren't scamming or deceiving people people or it's some propaganda you disagree with.
It's not like anyone is forced to watch it. People find it and they like it and they watch some more. How does that negatively affect you? It's not like it's television where something you dislike is more likely to take 'undeserved' viewers from things you like because of time slots. A person can watch every single animator on youtube by spending no more than twenty minutes per day.

Is this a "stop liking stuff !" video ?

>Our artform is being taken seriously for one
only (man)/children watch those channels, dumbass

doesn't she still live with her parents?

Based ding dong poster
Chris O' Neil/ OneyNG thread?

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Get this, they are "non binary" but they look like this offline.

youtube.com/watch?v=E6BPxyx1RKU

Domics isn't funny

Pewiepie's only popular now because he lost his throne to T-Series, and we all know T-Series is dominating Youtube because India is where all the bot networks are at. It's not even a channel from the western hemisphere, and you can't say, "Oh, but they have so many mobile phones online," because what do you think they use to make bot farms?

Prior to T-Series, Pewdiepie was the poster child for everything wrong with the site. A complete nobody with zero talent, who did nothing but post a video every day rose to the top and became their lead entertainer while comedy channels, animation channels, and every original idea died.

People are shittingnon you but her sneaking pewdiepies Easter egg was legit cool.

Do you think Pewdiepie fanboys doesn't have bots and fake subscribers on his side either?

A report back in 2016 suggested that somewhere in the neighborhood of 60% of viewers on Youtube are bots, so yeah, he definitely has a ton of bots and fake subscribers. Pewdiepie was the symbol of what went wrong on the site, not the hero of creators. How can a man who doesn't make anything be an inspiration to entertainment?

But Youtube wanting to tap into Indian markets mainly goes to show they want to increase viewer numbers for their investors and that they really just don't give a fuck. Because if the passive bot networks were bad, trying to intentionally reach out to India above western nations is trying to get bot networks to grow faster. Because with as fucking boring as the average Youtube channel has gotten, I'm skeptical that human viewership is growing as fast as the bots.

Just post the image already ffs

He's alright, but sometimes i feel like he's trying to force chad aura

The nigga is GARBAGE i don't get why they shill him. He's not fucking funny, a thief, and a talent-less cuck.

I feel like they are running out of things to say because anything interesting from their lives has already been covered.

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Yeah, duh. They're on a website that won't promote anyone who doesn't release content once a week, but the payout is completely suboptimal so Youtube isn't going to afford some interesting story in such a quick production cycle. You get the tale of how the Youtuber is burned out on Youtube and you'll like it.

They’re comfy to me. Besides Jaiden I’d recommend TheOdd1sOut, ItsAlexClark, TimTom.
SomethingElseYT is ok

Not even posting the one where she beat the crap out of a mental asylum patient:
youtube.com/watch?v=LHcALtvBzuE

I unironically enjoy Wolfyshu. And Shgurr has somehow manged to not be a Jaiden Clone anymore.
youtube.com/watch?v=FpZBSrosoeU

There are many youtubers whove been on the platform for 10+ years and still making a fine income. Youtube is a job whether you like it or not.

Of course not.

I guess it's an as good overview as any:
youtube.com/watch?v=8pgx3bS5d_E

Name a Youtuber who's been making good income for 10+ years without a major income reduction between now and ten years ago, or who hasn't also received a major reduction in viewership between now and ten years ago.

(ft. the Odds1out)

Wolfychu's voice just annoys the shit out of me. But her new April Fool videos with Tabbes was the last thing you expect. Their content are like polar opposites.

That marshmallow gets around

She beat his meat, alright.

youtube.com/watch?v=OJXP7s7_EVQ

He released a "book" and it is normie tier enough to be found in Target.

>What is crowdfunding?

Maybe you moved on, but nothing? Can't name a single Youtuber who was strong ten years ago and who hasn't declined since?

In fairness, this is common for media. People lose interest when the same thing goes on too long, but on Youtube I KNOW you can't think of anyone who's done well between then and now because Youtubers have no control over their ability to reach audiences.

It all relates back to what the corporate hacks in charge of the site are trying to do. If they want to promote "engagement" they'll promote Family of Five, right up until the insane, child-abusing motherfuckers get arrested, because it's not about what's on the platform, it's about "engagement". Can they measure "engagement" or seriously nail down what it is? Fuck no, but they'll pretend it's the most important thing on the site and randomly change everything around to achieve more of it.

>I know! I'll use crowdfunding to establish the millions of dollars I need annually to run a proper animation studio, and I'll get all that money BEFORE I have the cash flow to establish a proper animation studio purely on the basis that sometimes I draw doodles to go along with my vlogs!

Seething retard you are.

The problem is when they become full time youtube animator, it cut out of the life experience that might help them find inspiration.

I think a solution for it is if they all gathered together to make a road trip to go from the Est coast to the west Coast. then each of them animate 5 minute of it and it make a full movie.

The movie will conclude with Swoozie finally broking his vow and losing his virginity. And all of the girl getting pregnant.

nut inside

Oh I can here:
Smosh
FreddieWong
Michelle Phan
iJustine
Ryan Higa
Grace Helbig
Epic Rap Battles
David Choi

Also:

avgn
Jacksfilms
The VlogBrothers
Philip Defranco
The Amazing Atheist
ShayCarl
Boogie2988

Okay, this is where I point out that I'm not the guy you were talking to previously...

hi tabbes

go to war

Okay, this is where I point out you're a retard.

>Our artform
since when?

You need a fucking caretaker if you're saying that even one of those channels never declined in popularity or ad revenue.

Yes, I wasn't following the full conversation up to that point. I'll be more mindful to do this in future. Kindly penetrate yourself, if you would.

They may have had their ups/downs but they are still going and making money. What's the problem?

>Smosh
Basically the flagship channel of a MCN that funneled income from its partners to their main network. Okay. Interesting choice. Especially because MCNs in general have made major losses since 2011 and most are gone or fading.

>FreddieWong
The dude has videos about basically making peace with the fact that Rocket Jump's glory days behind it. A great content creator now lucky to break 200k viewers.

I mean I can break these down, but my guess is you listed a bunch of Youtubers that were popular ten years ago and don't know anything about their performance between then and now.

>mischievous trombone music plays

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>They're still making some money. What's the problem?
The problem is that it's asinine to look at channels that defined the Youtube platform ten years ago and say, "Yeah, they're less popular than they ever were, but they still make money," because you aren't looking at what's growing, and audience growth is what's going to define the up-and-comers.

And what's growing are these weird craft channels, or cheap children's channels, and all kinds of other unusual things that you wouldn't really except to do well. Rocket Jump was a great example of what people THOUGHT should do well, but they released a new video six months ago and it's got less than a million views.

They've had an increase in viewership overall, but it's probably the site pointing people to older content, or something else odd. It's not an incentive to make new content that's like Rocket Jump, but rather incentive to not bother because the old videos are getting all the views and nothing's being transferred to new videos.

>Why do they reveal their face?
It gets viewership, and they need a new idea every week so what difference does it make? I mean honestly, how does any of it fucking matter, it's all just vlogs to run ads on.

Why do so many of their followers DEMAND that those animators make face reveal ? I don't like it. It's the avatar I grew attached to, not their real face. But the real issue is, once they are not afraid to show their face anymore, they fill in some of their video with their real face, which result in even less animation.

I cam fro the animation. The whole advantage of animated storytime is I don't have to watch the gross face of those who tell the story, like it's often the case with the non-animator one. Face reveal tend to remove that.

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Easy there little zoomie, no need to get hostile

>how does any of it fucking matter, it's all just vlogs
The advantage of animated vlogging is that it's not just a face talking to the camera. Furthermore, the hard work required by animation make so they have to do their story concise and to the point and of course, better scripted. it automatically improve on the quality, compared to non-animated story-timers.

>The advantage of animated vlogging is that it's not their face
No, the advantage is that every successful channel on Youtube in the past ten years has been some kind of vlog. A vlog about televsion, or a vlog about video games, or a vlog about nothing. They may call it "let's play", or a "review", but it's a subcategory for the same thing everybody does.

The advantage of the cartoon vlogs is that it's a smaller subcategory that had more novelty until there were too many white blobs to remember. Same reason Arlo got popular - it's vlogs with a puppet.

The drawings are a disadvantage if anything because they can't release as many videos and thus can't run as many ads.

Some reoccurring them, I understand, but sometimes, there are some who not only come out of the blue, but also manage to come out at the same time. It's kinda weird:

Weird dream/Out of body experience:
youtube.com/watch?v=NfuO0_HGmZs
youtube.com/watch?v=uQ6eOiHfpdM
youtube.com/watch?v=89VMdrbG3Ls

Dealing with poop ?
youtube.com/watch?v=e_c_Rkkp-qw
youtube.com/watch?v=yHpsD5UUs_U
(must be a korean thing)

>No, the advantage is that every successful channel on Youtube in the past ten years has been some kind of vlog.
Advantage from the point of view of the audience/me. Not advantage from the point of view of the creator.

I prefer animated vlogging because it provide much more decorum and script, and to the point narration than someone simply talking to the camera. That's an advantage for me.

>It provides more decorum and script
It doesn't, though. Have you ever listened to JaidenAnimations without the visuals running? She's rambling. If anything she's worse at vlogs than the average vlogger.

The animations are cute and have more novelty. It's also a smaller niche.

>I enjoy Tabbes. Her videos are like green text stories, but she barely updates. Her fans are legit batshit, just visit her official Discord server and bask on their autism.

yeah she's my favorite out of the bunch. although i actually like this weird little youtube trend

most of the more fluid animations are from GinjaNinjaOwO and others

>Have you ever listened to JaidenAnimations without the visuals running?
Having the visual is the whole point of it. And it's not really rambling, not when compared iwith non-animated storytiming. Never said it was perfect, but it's still an huge improvement.

Domic always felt like a whinny asshole to me

Not an asshole, but some of his recent videos are a bit boring.

Why is she your favorite?

Why is spechie the worst

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Non-animated vlogs are the exact same. It's all just unscripted rambling at your Youtube audience.

I'd say if there is an advantage to the stroytime subcategory, it's that they don't have to do jump cuts to make up for all the bad takes and awkward pauses.

She is not really an animator (I know, I know, people goes autism screeching with that word for all of them, but just bear with me). All she does is have an avatar and talk. She never actually illustrate what she actually tell about. She is more in the same category as the avatar-reviewers.

>It's all just unscripted rambling at your Youtube audience.
Something animated vloging is far less plagued with and to a lesser degree, precisely because the format has higher scripting and writing requirement, or you never get done with the animation.

It's stockholm syndrome

I don't think you understand the process.

They record some rambling story, edit out the awkward pauses and mistakes, and then drawn an animatic. An animatic isn't even proper animation, it's more like the keys of the animation with a few simple examples of more detailed movements. If you were to do an actual animation, you'd flesh out the animatic with color and, you know, animation, but the storytimers don't do that.

There's novelty to the drawings and they can't be cute but seriously there's no extra scripting requirements.

>They record some rambling story, edit out the awkward pauses and mistakes, and then drawn an animatic.
That's not the process at all. Maybe for the first or even second video, but any animator who want to go one on that path will fastly learn to start with a script. It greatly reduce the time of production and time is the biggest thing playing against them.

Even when it's just animatic, it's time consuming as hell. Making a rambling and editing it out to make it into something workable is too much waste of a time when you can save much of it by scripting first.

Those who don't learn that end up with a dead channel with no more update.

Turkey is a whiny faggot.
The moment he got criticism he started crying about "bandwagon hate"
youtube.com/watch?v=Fou2G8XwbKQ
Then he gave half assed non-apologies in the comments of vids calling him out, but never really apologized or addressed it on his channel.
Just like Leafy he surrounds himself with a bunch of circlejerking "commentary" and "critic" channels and tries to repaint his retarded hot takes as criticism.

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Explain to me how a script is anything but an extra time-consuming step.

You're talking to someone who has actually made animations. Once the audio is recorded, you make an animatic for it. The only reason you'd need a script is if you were going to storyboard the video, but it's seven fucking minutes and it since the stories just run on as they do I'd scarcely believe that storytimers do a second draft of the recording.

They're super small projects, the stories are not complex. There's no set up, there's no foreshadowing, there aren't really arcs. They don't need a script if the person running the channel already knows what they want to say.

I'd guess the only reason Jaiden has had a writer is because that person wrote a story for her and she can't read their mind. But if it were Jaiden's story in Jaiden's head there'd be no reason.

Same

>Explain to me how a script is anything but an extra time-consuming step.
Reduce much of the post-edit and formatting work.

>You're talking to someone who has actually made animations. Once the audio is recorded,
I am pretty certain the audio you animate has been scripted.

>Explain to me how a script is anything but an extra time-consuming step.
Editing out the rambling ans stuttering as well as pondering what is worth to keep to animate and what part of the audio should be thrown out consume time.

Scripting first save you a lot from that and reduce the post-processing time.

>Rocket Jump was a great example of what people THOUGHT should do well, but they released a new video six months ago and it's got less than a million views.
It was a fucking video essay on script writing

On a channel famous for cgi gunplay

I only ever really liked domics, the newfag storytellers are all the same. Not that I hate them, but I prefer giving time to animators that actually animate because that is a hell of a lot more time consuming than simple tweens and over/misused smear frames.

Most of the real animators i have found on youtube barely upload and some of them work for the storytimers.

how can one man be so based?

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JAIDEN IS PURE

Even at 2X speed he talks too fucking slow!

JAIDEN IS PAN

live

JAIDEN IS PEOPLE

>I'm pretty sure the animation you do is scripted
Are you familiar with the concept of a podcast? People do animations for those as promotion. Same with Game Grumps, come to think of it. Animators take their unscripted rambling and turn it into a cartoon. People have even done the same thing for Markiplier and Pewdiepie.

The animation doesn't need a script. You just need audio to work with. Storytime vloggers aren't scripted by necessity and they don't feel scripted.

>soon people born after 9/11 can post here

>>I'm pretty sure the animation you do is scripted
I said audio.

But we are talking about Story time,not post-animating podcast.

Animated story-time is from the start intended to be animated. Hence scripting make it less time consuming.

>Storytime vloggers aren't scripted by necessity and they don't feel scripted.
Time constraint make scripting a necessity. And it all come back to my original point, animated story time tend to be better written than non-animated one, because the constrain of time encourage them to script first.

I've said this before but storytime animation is literal cancer, you would have to be either a raging narcissist or dead inside and looking for a paycheck to actually go forward with making frequent videos about your boring ass unremarkable life and all the boring shit that takes place in it. A good example is that one fatass with the glasses who made this entire 30 minute saga about an abusive relationship, which speaking from experience might as well be pre-formatted with how dull and by-the-numbers they are because every single one plays out almost the exact same fucking way.

Of course, they get tons of views because of the magics of cult of personality and because vapid fucktards attract vapid fucktards, but that doesn't excuse the content being the lowest common denominator for animation. Go make a comic or something.

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You missed the boat by like 5 years dude
You'd make more money selling knick knacks ona street corner then AdSense revenue

>Time constraints make scripting your vlogs necessary
They don't. Watch Pewdiepie for one episode. He sits in front of his mic, says what he wants to say, and then has an editor jump-cut through everything too stupid for Youtube, which is a pretty low fucking bar.

You can, if you wanted to, turn each and every one of Pewdiepie's vlogs into animatics, after which Pewdiepie would also be a "storytimer" and there's be no discernible difference between him and anyone else in the subgenre.

>Watch Pewdiepie for one episode.
?
Pewdiepie is not an animated story-teller. You know that, right ?

you understand that the point I have been making is that animated story tellers tend to be better than non-animated one because the medium they use encourage them to script and be more concise and to the point, right ?

>You can, if you wanted to, turn each and every one of Pewdiepie's vlogs into animatics,
And the whole process of post-edit before animating would consume more time than if scripting to start with. And most animated vlogger couldn't afford to hire people for all this workload.

All you have showed me is that animated vlogging could work without scripting first, but with higher workforce to hire. But that is not how thing goes and this isn't time-friendly, nor money firendly, hence why many actually scripf t first, hence why most animated vlogger tend to be better than non-animated one.

I don't know what you are trying to demonstrate. I am just telling you how things are. And I am not trying to say it's an absolute truth either.

Dubs confirm.

>Pewdiepie isn't an animated story-teller
Nigger are you some kind of autist who thinks that Jaiden is actually a cartoon and not a lady behind a microphone?

Just sit the dumb v-logger behind their mic, let them say their bit for twenty minutes, edit it down to ten so you can run multiple ads. Cut. Print. Just like every major Youtube "star" these days.

It's not goddamned rocket science.

>I've said this before but storytime animation is literal cancer
It really isn't. It's basically vlogging, which is guess what, precisely what you tube was made for. And it(s actually better than usual vlogging, because the format force the vlogger to be more to the point and script in the first place and is not someone just talking to the camera.

People never had issue with vlogging nor blogging, so no reason to have issue with doing it with animation.

>Of course, they get tons of views because of the magics of cult of personality
It's just blogging, user, no need to get all mad about it.

>Get told in the most basic and direct way possible you can "storytime animate" without a script
>Continue to tell people the format forces people to use a script

>Nigger are you some kind of autist who thinks that Jaiden is actually a cartoon and not a lady behind a microphone?
I did not say that and nothing I have said imply such thing. You are making less and less sense. All I did is say that unlike usual vlogger, animated vloggger script first, which improve the quality, but somehow you are getting upset about it.

>Just sit the dumb v-logger behind their mic, let them say their bit for twenty minutes, edit it down to ten so you can run multiple ads. Cut. Print. Just like every major Youtube "star" these days.
>It's not goddamned rocket science.
I am not saying it wouldn't work, I am saying that's not how most animated vlogger do, because it neither time nor money effective and the animation format put too much of a constrain to allow to work that way. Scripting the audio before recording (though it deosn't prevent a bit of improv and ad-lib too), usually save time for the whole production process.

I have already told you several time that it is possible, I am nit deying it. I have simply stated that scripting first save you time and money (if you hire other animator), as it diminish the post-edit process.

I am not sayingit can't be done the way you describe, I am saying the format encourage a more effective way: scripting first, which is exactly what most animated vlogger do.

What do you not understand ?

>Unlike a usual vlogger storytimers have a totally different process
You keep talking about money effectiveness like you know jack shit.

Listen. How long do you think it takes to write a ten page script? Hours, nigger. It takes all day.

How long do you think it takes to ramble into a mic for twenty minutes with only a vague idea of what you're saying? It takes twenty fucking minutes. And how long does it take to edit twenty minutes of rambling? An hour tops. As long as the vlogger isn't some kind of spaghetti-laden fucktard who can't say two words without a stutter, the editing process is fairly easy.

A script is not necessary and if these storytimers are writing scripts, they're wasting time pretending at being professional because it never shows.

>it's just blogging

Hey guess what else is narcissistic? You fucking moron?

Satan, you have objectively shit taste.

Yeah, what do people think ? that they live in a country where they can express themselves ?

can't tell if 12 year old boy or 16 year old dyke

>diaper fags only got away with it because one guy kept sperging out about it and the trolls there kept getting fed by their instant outrage posts
Fixed because that's actually what was happening. Seriously, most of the diaper faggots don't care if there is art of Jaiden or not really. They are more busy arguing about eastern and western or which product is the best to shit their pants in.

>How long do you think it takes to write a ten page script? Hours, nigger.
>. And how long does it take to edit twenty minutes of rambling? An hour tops.
Scripting can save you time on the edit AND the animation.

There is a reason most animated vlogger script, it's because it is more effective

Also
>ten page of script
>hours
Not really. usually shorter than that. way less than trying to put sense in a non-scripted rambling.

>A script is not necessary and if these storytimers are writing scripts, they're wasting time pretending at being professional because it never shows.
It's simply the most effective way. I really don't understand why you are upset about it.

You don't know what narcissism is.

Tabbs try’s to hard to be “”edgy””, she should have just stuck to animating shit post

College is a boomer scam pushed by naive parents

Explain to me the cost savings, mister production genius.

Because as I see it, you're spending a ton of man hours on the script. That's fine if your vlogger has run out of ideas and needs help, but in that case it's less efficient than having them come up with their own ideas and it's LESS cost-effective.

As for how a script helps the animatic process? How? You have a single white stick man in a white void with two dozen pre-set poses to smear between. 75% of the work is setting keys and very little of it requires much care, which is the whole point and why the format works on Youtube at all.

Where are you seeing cost-savings in the script. Tell me what specific part of the animation pipeline.

>chronicling yourself doing boring, unremarkable shit for what is generally the purpose of ego-stroking and getting attention isn't narcissistic

It's rooted in egotism, get your head out of your ass. I'm not going to say that all forms of expression online are like that because that's not true, just that most of them are.

It's called "following a trend for views"

Also, I am pretty sue it was an animation college
youtube.com/watch?v=yhONzupPjTc
youtube.com/watch?v=6bQWxtoCav4
She is definitely better off.

>Because as I see it, you're spending a ton of man hours on the script
That you are saving later in post-edit and animation time.
>As for how a script helps the animatic process? How?
Because you can already plan ahead rather than having to work out improve post-record.

>>chronicling yourself doing boring, unremarkable shit for what is generally the purpose of ego-stroking and getting attention isn't narcissistic
It isn't. Seeking to communicate your personal experience is not ego-stroking, I'd say it's even a natural instinct. And naricssim require self-aggrandising attitude most of the animated story timer lack.
>It's rooted in egotism
Not really. for many it's a tool to break out of their shell and communicate with other. You don't have to be so jagged.

>You are saving post-edit and animation time

Has it occurred to you that even with a script, the vlogger still makes mistakes that need to be post-edited? "Animation time" is not a part of the animation pipeline, fag. Where in the pipeline did it save money to make your dumb Youtuber write themselves a script?

toilet clogging poop isn't really a trend.

Uh, excuse me. Might I direct your attention to Youtube Kids?

>Tabbs try’s to hard

*Tabbs tries too hard

See me after class!

>she should have just stuck to animating shit post

youtube.com/watch?v=e_c_Rkkp-qw

>Has it occurred to you that even with a script, the vlogger still makes mistakes that need to be post-edited?
Yes. I said it reduce it, not remove it. I even said it still has some improve and ad-lib.
>"Animation time" is not a part of the animation pipeline
When it's a one-person work, every step is taken in charge by the same person.
>Where in the pipeline did it save money to make your dumb Youtuber write themselves a script?
when you didn't had to hire other animator (or more than you already have hired) to work on your improv rambling.

Again, I am just observing most animated vlogger make script fro their audio. I sdon't see why it upset you so much.

And triple dubs at that!

And if you have other animators working with you, with a script, time is also saved because by commissioning the work before you even record the audio.

>Retards are still arguing about merits of a script.
Most of these lazy fucks dont even have fingers on their characters.

>I am observing Youtuber make hire for script on their audio. Why this make you angry?
Because there's no observational proof the Youtuber needs a script when it's a one man job.

What do you think is in the script that the storytime animator needs? "Insert pose 23 here"? I imagine they can figure it out.

>Tabbs try’s to hard to be “”edgy””
I don't think she is even trying.

A commission is one thing. Like if you need to send the script to people to see if they even want to work on it.

But if you're got a regular dude who animates your vlogs then you just send them the audio and they make with the animation. Same way podcasts do it.

>Because there's no observational proof the Youtuber needs a script
Except when they actually mess their line and try rereading it. Which happens.

>What do you think is in the script that the storytime animator needs? "Insert pose 23 here"?
The text they actually say. which means they don't need to ramble or make up everything on the spot.

No, mongo, what does the ANIMATOR need from the script?

I did enjoy his pokemon gold animations, but he got way too cringey when he tried to introduce plot into the pokemon ruby animations.

How come?

Yeah, because she hired other animators on board as well.

>But if you're got a regular dude who animates your vlogs then you just send them the audio and they make with the animation
Except that only work if you are not working on the animation at all and do a podcast where having the animation delivered at the same time the pod is out is not a necessity.

Story time animator usually also work on on the animation too. and the aniamtion need to be done before you can post the finalised work.

You are conflating two different kind of work, there. Animation of podcast and animated story time aren't relallly the same thing.

It's ok, I'm with you bro. At least she's an actual animator.

The part they need to animate.

As are many other.

She's getting those craig mckracken eyes, now she's a true animator.

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By what magic is a one-man animation job different if it's a storytime? You could probably record three segments of storytime audio in a single day if you had enough ideas to talk about. The animation work can be completed in less than a week. And it's not like you can do more than a storyboard without the audio. The point of an animatic is usually to synch the storyboard to the audio, but with a Youtube vlog there is no storyboard and you stop at the animatic.

Yeah and when I go to a mechanic I want them to fix the part that makes my car go.

>touting your personal experiences as important with entire videos and all the effort that goes into making one isn't self-aggrandizing

Nice one

Wait what happened?

Not enough porn

Bruva Alfabusa’s “If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device” series is the best use of limited animation that I’ve seen on YT.

worse,
she moved to LA and I am 90% certain is working for Frederator Studios.
Another one lost to the wastes.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Suck_At_Photoshop_(web_series)

The history dude's takes are absolutely frigid and the channel would be better off without them, and their let's plays are absolutely terrible.
But I still watch those mythology vids as soon as they come out.

AMEN

brainlet detected

LEAVE JAIDEN TO ME

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"A complete nobody" is Youtube you retard

I don't even like pewdiepie's content but the fact that some random fuckhead from Sweden can become the most popular person of one of the largest websites in the world on their own merit (even if said merit is just doing Amnesia LPs) is exactly the youtube dream. The reason most people hate T-Series is because it's a company. It represents the changing of the guard on what Youtube was to one generation and what it is to a new generation that only sees it as a hub to watch TV clips or music videos.

Based and Liapilled

She's actually talented imo

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storytime animators are usually cancerous and boring as fuck

skimming this thread I see a lot of contempt for "avatar" commentary channels and while I'm not fond of that approach to doing it, it's still better than the old style of just plastering CS:S footage in the background or whatever. I dunno I enjoy that stuff sometimes because they're nice long stories about weird youtube bullshit I never would have cared about otherwise I can listen to while browsing Yea Forums. Not so fond of the ones that just shit out a video every three days that's conveniently exactly 10 minutes long whining about some cringy kid or what have you.

>On their own merit
It's was nothing but a bot network. That's like saying winning the lottery is making millions on your own merit. Pewdiepie was lucky, not good.

He gave up to easily, I don’t believe he every actually tried learning how to draw

The closest thing to this idea is ARG type channles like Everyman or what ever. Not a bad idea per-sey but you got to have a special ear for the weird or a type of story you want to tell.

Yeah, that's why I try to appreciate them more. It takes a ton of time and effort to do what they do than the Joe Schmo putting out tons of PowerPoint videos every week.

i actually like this idea user. would make for an excellent ARG

im very proud that 99.999 percent of people on youtube and Yea Forums will never understand the history of pic related

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is that the powerup comics guy on the right

no?

What do you think of Jaiden's latest video, Yea Forums?

forgot link lol youtube.com/watch?v=4H9jTQKmR3Q

God I wish that were me

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>daftpina
>based
u rite

vore

y'all just hate him because you ain't him

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So like lonelygirl15 but for storytime animation?

I wouldn't hate him if he gave me some of his money.

gangbang?

Anorexia'll do that.

He looks and sounds like he fucks black guys.

You can acknowledge his influence on youtube, but he's honestly a hollow shell of what he used to be. I'm not sure how, but he's become a /pol/tard, and only mostly makes cringy meme videos. Considering how he said the N-word, you can't blame youtube for not wanting to do anything with him.

Just let the thread die dude.

(you)
>pewdiepie
>/pol/tard

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I wish more people bullied this Recommendations Slut.

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PewDiePie

Pewds was trending downwards until Leafy came along and they started giving mini shout outs to each other in vids.
But i doubt most new pewd fans know that especially since pewds wants to rewrite history and pretend it never happened.

how much does your life have to SUCK that you spend your free time s̶h̶i̶t̶p̶o̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶i̶m̶a̶g̶e̶b̶o̶a̶r̶d̶ watching other people talk about their lives

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Seethe more fag ;)

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I cant fuckimg stand this faggot.

According to this user she does have a day job

Was this taken before she hired other animators to take some of the load off for her?

There is a fictional animation channel that's projected as two sisters making autobiographical animations together.

youtube.com/watch?v=yA3yZZENneQ

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>Actual hand drawn boiling animation
not gonna lie, that's pretty cool.

youtube is not a sustainable platform for animators lmao. It is at best a side job, ideally a hobby.

I'm not a fan. I can see the appeal of exaggerated life stories with fun cartoon characters, but whenever I sit down and watch a video from an animated storyteller, I get bored. in terms of youtube animation, stick figure animations are more my speed. There's never a dull moment in them, especially in the case of GildedGuy

>By what magic is a one-man animation job different if it's a storytime?
It's like you purposely misunderstand what I am saying. I said a one-man job is different from people having different task for one piece of animation. meaning the guy who animte also has to edit.

>You could probably record three segments of storytime audio in a single day if you had enough ideas to talk about.
I have said many time that yes, you could, but scripting reduce the workload and time.

>Yeah and when I go to a mechanic I want them to fix the part that makes my car go.
You are not really deterring my point, there.

Who dat ?

Not true, you just need to know what you're doing.
socialblade.com/youtube/user/rossbollinger
socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC1D26ByrbZVwuMgjVWmsOuw

Ugh you mean illymation? Cant stand her either.

remember shadowleggy?

This chinese storytime animator is far superior than anyone mentioned on the thread.

youtube.com/watch?v=UwdUpA30avo

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I want to cum inside shadowleggy, and have wanted to since middle school

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I am almost sure it is a korean.

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That's Lia, Friend

Use her wisely

Same, shes been my waifu for years I still can't believe there are lewds of her, and they are so good too, holy shit bless this artist

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Okay, I am looking for lia animation and got several result but not the right one, could you directly link to the channel ? thank you.

I low key want Jaiden to accidentally let out a massive burp while recording and leave it in the video.

Tried drawing her- I understand why she goes for a more simple style, her likeness is hard to capture.

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It was a sad realisation for me when I realised 2D girls will always have more hair volume than 3D people.

The 80's tries to compete,but I am afrraid it is a lost art.

She looks beautiful user. Great job :)

>that middle and bottom jaidens
that's how I basically imagine jaiden being like when dropping her animation persona

>It's like you purposefully misunderstand
No, it's like I know how people make animations, and I can pretty well imagine how the process of a "storytime" works.

You're like some dumb asshole who goes to a car shop, knowing nothing about cars, and you tell the mechanic, "Yeah, I really like Honda because their cars aren't automatic and that makes them drive faster".

And while you'll accept that a Honda can be a automatic, you haven't really seen it nor thought about it. So you just put up an argument accepting the theory that a Honda can be automatic while still insisting that every car they make is faster because it's required to be a stick shift.

Basically you're wrong. At the end of the day a storytime is a vlog, and you can vlog without scripts. The animation can is done post-recording and the script is pre-recording. So if a script made Youtube videos faster, logically EVERYONE would make a script because ALL audio would be faster. But we know most Youtubers don't write a script. Why? Because it's faster not to write one and the point of the site is to run ads, not to make things.

No, they're not even animation. But you knew that already, didn't you? As did everyone ITT. So the only purpose of the thread is to give further attention to something that probably doesn't warrant it. Eat a dick.

I don't like how the girl tries to """""""subtly""""""" integrate her takes on different media into her Trope Talk videos, especially when it's obnoxious SJW stuff. That doesn't happen often thankfully.

Bonus points for their avatars actually looking lime themselves IRL

2x was invented for a reason user

start a family

>shitting on Pewdiepie is tumblr now

>No, it's like I know how people make animations, and I can pretty well imagine how the process of a "storytime" works.
And yet most of them make script first.

>Basically you're wrong. At the end of the day a storytime is a vlog, and you can vlog without scripts.
I have never said you could not, I said scripting make you win time, which is essential when ooyu do animation clogging, because it take a lot of time.

So far, all you have say is that it's possible to do it without script, but that doesn't mean it's the way most of them do. And the reason they script first is because scripting provide a gain of time and cost.

she cute

>So if a script made Youtube videos faster, logically EVERYONE would make a script
BING BING BING you have figured it out. Not everyone, but most animated vloggers does effectively script first. And you just said yourself why.

>But we know most Youtubers don't write a script.
False, most of the animated vlogger script first. hence my original point. animated vlogger tend to provide better content because they script first and the reason for it is it make them gain time.

>they're not even animation
Many of them actually are.

It was hilarious how in his Deviantart video he found a picture of ponyfied Rick and Morty and said something like "oh god bronies are insane who the fuck made this bullshit". Except these were designs from the actual show.

I wish genetic engineering would just make super hair for girls. Imagine big and bouncy high volume locks, dancing about in the wind but cohesively, soft and clean yet strong. Doesn't matter what color, blonde, brunette, raven, redhead, just gorgeous locks draping over contours. None of that perm frizzy shit, smooth and silky like a river.

Seriously femanons, hair is the biggest part of your sex appeal. You all need to understand what long hair does to me. It's not tits, it's not ass, and it's certainly not feet. It's hair. Buns, tails, bedroom hair, just lots of it, I want to impregnate the hell out of big hair bitches. Thicc makes everything better.

Damn it's like I was watching something that would unironically be aired on TV. Thanks for posting this here.

This is babby's first ARG. Be prepared to throw in a bunch of codes, obscure useless facts and riddles that take more effort to think up than the rest of your work. And even then, at best, you'd still just be this era's Alantutorial.

I mean, you can also like women for that stupid perfect image of them you construct in your head and that has nothing to do with their real personaloty, but that usually implies good looks as well.

>They're on a website that won't promote anyone who doesn't release content once a week
People like I Hate Everything But Star Wars release about a video a month, yet still have more than a million subs.

These are not nearly as successful as you think. I'm not a Murican and the only channels here I know are Smosh and Rap Battles, and both have lost a lot of of their popularity.

I see nothing wrong with pic related. Isn't this how pretty much everyone copes with their failures? When has been the last time you said to yourself "yeah that happened and it was really bad and it was my fault and I meant it" or even saw anyone do it? This is not productive, it only leads to useless self-deprecating.

Because Turkey tried to create his career around shitting on people and stirring shit then got upset when it directly blew up in his face.

shgurr > jaiden
both in quality of her art and waifuness of her avatar

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ikr the amount of efforts put in to his works are fucking insane.

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I'm glad Yea Forums actually discusses something more than porn for once

>spoiler
you can't just say that and not give source

Why so many brother and sisters, though ?

I have one nephew I don't take care of him all the time, but when I do, it's extenuating. Who in their right mind ever think "I am not stressed enough by all of my kid, I think what I need right now is even more children". Who come to that kind of conclusion ?

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You seriously believe Pewdiepie or Markiplier write a script and that it makes their vlogs faster to produce.

Pewdz has been /ourguy/ for years nice try discord tranny.

>You seriously believe Pewdiepie or Markiplier write a script
They are not animated vlogger. Script save time for animated vlogger, not for people doing normal blog or podcast. I specifically say that animated vlogger provide a better quality precisely because normal vlogger don't script, yet you come to the conclusion that I am saying normal vlogger script, which I never did. Do you have issue with basic reading comprehension ?

Not really. Yea Forums never liked streamer and internet personalities much.

NO MOUTHS

>got popular off of making shitty animation
memes
>now a mundane storytime """"animator""""

haha oh wow

What a great excuse for hate someone.

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Okay, retarded ESL user. Why do you presume Pewdiepie and Markiplier do not write scripts for their insipid vlogs?

>literal attention whores
I mean, yeah?

Do you think Jaiden will ever release an "I'm no longer a vegan" video?

I hope it's not Hispanic people typing this shit

Shane "fucked a cat" Dawson

I kinda want Swoozie to get corrupted and lose his virginity. All that kissing and "wrestling", and he hasn't at least gotten a handjob? You tricky Trini, you aren't fooling me.

Lower quality, many rambling. For animated vlogger, the reason for quality sink is more often due that they seems like they are reading a text.

I drew her myself! Glad you like her

You can use her for reaction images and stuff, or edit her. She represents positivity and self worth!

No, I'm asking you why you think Pewdiepie doesn't write a script given your reasoning that a script always makes production faster.

Right? This is your logic.

A script makes recording faster.
Pewdiepie wants to make videos faster because that's the point of Youtube.
Ergo if he wants to be faster he should write a script.

Yes? Right? This is your reasoning?

So why doesn't Pewdiepie write a script if it would make him faster? Is he just a bad person?

Is this the face you pull when you realise loads of awkward sweaty greasy nerds lust after you online.

Most of her followers are between 12 and 15.

Odds on Jaiden probably has an outgoing and well kept boyfriend.

>given your reasoning that a script always makes production faster.
?

I don't know why it's so important to you to prove me wrong, maybe one of my post rubbed you the wrong way, but that obsession seem tohave strongly impaired your reading ability. I have NEVER said it always make proudction faster, IT'S ONLY THE CASE for animated vlogger, not normal ones.

>Right? This is your logic.
No it isn't. but because I am a nice person, I am going to spell it out for you once again:
Non-animated vlogger: best gain of time is to not script and prove and ramble
Animated-vlogger: best gain of time is to script before recording.
Result, animated vlogger tend to have better quality content.

>So why doesn't Pewdiepie write a script
Because he isn't an animated-vlogger.

I hope you understand, now.
Because he is not an animated vlogger. I hope you understand, now.

Don't see jaiden keeping a relationship on the long run, her life is chaotic as fuck and probably has many youtuber friends secretly wanting to get inside her panties, if she ever drops the youtuber business then she can have a normal life again

She's done a few videos on travelling with her youtube guy friends right? Bet they tried it on.

Alright. So we've established that a script slows down the recording process and that's why Pewdiepie never scripts his vlogs. The audio post-editing is not that time consuming, or at the least is not as time consuming as writing a script for a ten minute video.

So with the animated vlog, we've established that the script didn't save any time for the recording.

But now you say the script saves time for the animator, who in many cases is actually the same person who made the recording. Starting out, Jaiden, for example, was the only person working on her video.

So you know nothing about animation. You don't know how it starts, you don't know the production process, you don't know how it ends.

If it takes a work day's worth of man hours to write the script, how many man hours do you think it saves the animator to have that script on hand even if they're the only person on the project? And where do you figure you figure, during the animation process, the time savings occurs?

And don't say, "during the animation" again, you colossal faggot. The reason I keep picking at this is because I want to know your logic. What step in the animation? What phase in the animation? How does the project save time and money?

She doesn't really do much of the production work anymore. I doubt she's slammed for free time.

Painfully non self-aware

Nigahiga?
Philip Defranco?
The Young Turks?

>So with the animated vlog, we've established that the script didn't save any time for the recording.
No we haven't. it does say time.

You see, with normal vlogging, you don't really need post edit. a few cut there and there, if any. Also, video tend to be much longer and come out more often.

With animated vlog, YOUR VIDEO NEED TO BE MUCH SHORTER, because otherwise, you will never be done with animating all of it.

therefore, the audio need to be shorter, therefore, it need to be more to the point to carry whatt he vlogger need to say, therefore, it need to be shorter, therefore, it need scripting first, so you don't lose time in post-edit making something that is both short enough yet still coherent.

Is it clear now ? And you still ignore the fact, that effectively most animated vloggger script first.

Anyone seen a video by her, I dig them.

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is that how she looks now? how awful

So your argument is, without a script, people would be too stupid to talk for ten minutes instead of for an hour.

Therefore storytimers make better videos because they're too dumb to tell a short story if that information isn't written in front of them.

Cute stuff.

Come join the Yea Forums servers my fellow friends
discord
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>without a script, people would be too stupid to talk for ten minutes instead of for an hour.
not too stupid, but it help and make thing easier, hence why so many animated vlogger rely on it. What is dumb is not pick a process that make thing easier.

Why do you insist so much it is not a valid way when most of the animated vlogger do it ?

? what is the point of joining a discussion board when we already have one in the first place ?

Listen. Because you don't know anything about animation, you've fallen back to arguing that a script makes the audio recording faster again.

So if a script helps the vlogger stay in their time frame and prevents post-editing, why does it not help vloggers like Pewdiepie and Markiplier?

The entire point of this argument is that you're trying to say storytimers are better vloggers because they write a script, but in all liklihood most of them don't write a script. Jaiden only uses scripts now because she's no longer in charge of the material, acting purely as a voice actor and figurehead.

>Yea Forums server
>Yea Forums server icon

There's a fair amount of stuff like this and it tends to be straight horror. Look up Alan Resnick stuff.

I think it would almost be the more clever to not make it a horror at all. Just make the stories a little more ridiculous each time to see how far the audience will follow you until eventually the whole channel realises its fake and is in on the joke.

Even once the secret is out you can continually be making this commentary on the artificiality of YouTube personas by making videos that could be real or might not be, or videos that obviously have shit that didn't happen but might at their core be true. It is a good idea.

>you've fallen back to arguing that a script makes the audio recording faster again.
I have never been arguing that. I said it made the edit afterwards easier, because the audio is less of a mess to begin with.

all you have done all along is make a point to ctritic points I never made in the first place.

>So if a script helps the vlogger stay in their time frame and prevents post-editing, why does it not help vloggers like Pewdiepie and Markiplier?
Because they don't need it. They don't need their vlog to be short, and they can make them in much higher number, becaue it doesn't need to get animated.

>but in all liklihood most of them don't write a script
This is false. for most of them you can tell they are reading a text and when they mess up, it's because they failed to read a word.

>acting purely as a voice actor and figurehead.
She still do animation work.

That already exists:
youtube.com/watch?v=jFGsklMzd0Q

i blocked all their channels on youtube so i dont know what they post

No
No

Did y'all see that airsoft tournament she did?

Any youtube animators that specialize in horror stories?

I'll admit some of these storytime channels have a lot of talent, but I don't care for their vapid personalities or cutesy stories about their stupid quirks.

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Well, you already posted llama arts, so there isn't much else to post.

Most of those are animation of Mr. Nightmar's narrations anyway. don't know how Mr. Nightmare control to make sure those stories are true, though.

fuck

Okay, but who do you want to fuck with Jaiden ?

If you like Llama Arts, check out Wansee Entertainment and Steven D.

Or plug any recommendations if you have any

>You're critiquing points I never made
That's because you haven't had a point in the first place. You're assuming the vloggers you enjoy write scripts for their content when the only time that's evidently true is when the vlogger isn't coming up with their own stories.

The nonsense you're coming up with to justify this belief is vague and doesn't imply you've ever made anything.

The vlog format does well on Youtube because it's cheap, it's fast, it requires minimal effort, and it takes minimal experience. While you can script a vlog, it's faster not and most vloggers don't - "storytimers" included because the production pipeline begins and ends generally with one person.

Again, Jaiden uses a script because the pipeline starts with SOMEONE ELSE writing her material. It then goes to Jaiden, who records her lines. The recording then likely goes to an editor who cuts out her mistakes and cleans up the audio. Finally it arrives at the animator who goes through the tedious process of tapping the '[' and ']' keys for hours, because those are the buttons that switch between pre-drawn poses.

It's soulless, boring, and creatively unrewarding. If it weren't, it wouldn't do well on that website. The fact that a little cartoon appears on the screen does not make it any less spirit-crushing, and the script is only adding man hours to a relatively dull process, so I guarantee, most vloggers skip on writing a full script. An outline, maybe, but not a script.

Not him, but this is one of the best non nintendo animations I have seen on youtube, good frame per frame animation that gives me hope of there still being a future for videogame parodies being something other than low quality tweening shit or fanservice bait like most of what you find.

youtube.com/watch?v=VUE8JXN8J9w

>That's because you haven't had a point in the first place.
I did made a point.

animated story need to be shorter, thus the audio need to be more to the point and concise to begin with and animation take a lot of time, meaning the lesser edit the better, thus it is easier to script first. Then you threw a complete Tantrum when I said that.

>While you can script a vlog, it's faster not and most vloggers don't - "storytimers" included because the production pipeline begins and ends generally with one person.
And I have agreed with that and explained that it is not the case for animated vlogger precisely because, in their case, scripting first make them gain time. For the reason I just mentioned:
animated story need to be shorter, thus the audio need to be more to the point and concise to begin with and animation take a lot of time, meaning the lesser edit the better, thus it is easier to script first

You keep ignoring those points.

I have also mentioned that it' s quite clear for many of the animated vlogger that they are reading text, but you keep ignoring that too.

>and the script is only adding man hours to a relatively dull process,
Except it actually remove some. It is even required as otherwise, they end upwith an audio too long to be animated in a short time.

that was fun, it wasn't frame per frame though.

No, they're all shit. Especially that cunt red head, she's a preachy bitch who's been caught lying about some details of her stories to make them seem more interesting.

Who ?

robobuddies maybe?, she is the only animator I would factually call annoying cunt

Illymation or whatever it was.

>The lesser time spent on audio recording, the better it is for the animation

See, this is the part where I think you have special needs, because the animation compartment and audio compartment are separate. If audio recording is faster then the project as an entire package may be faster, but if you have to spend a day of man hours writing to save an hour of editing time, then you've gotten less cost effective, not more.

It's not that I'm ignoring you. It's that your points are stupid and make no sense.

>Illymation
she has never been lying, as far as we know, though and so far, all of her account add up. so it must be robobuddies. Didn't knew she was a red-hair.

Can you explain in depth what exactly Illymation lied about.

>See, this is the part where I think you have special needs, because the animation compartment and audio compartment are separate.
And this is where you fail to understand that, animation taking a lot of time, you must do so everything else take as little time as possible.

i never claimed scripting magically made the animation faster, I said it made the post-edit faster and the story shorter, while still containing what the vlogger want to say. Shorter audio mean shorter animation. it take ore time to animate a 20 minute audio than it take to animate 5 minute audio. ad to make a shorter video that still say what you want it to say, scripting first is the how you obtain that.
> but if you have to spend a day of man hours writing
Scripting do not take that long, especially if you are used to doing it.

Normal vloggers tend too make way longer videos than animated vlogger.

> It's that your points are stupid and make no sense.
It's more that, for some reason, you are so certain of your opnion that you refuse to understand basic logic.

How do you know he is talking about Illy ?

>This is where you fail to understand animation take a lot of time
Retarded ESL user, at the start of this argument I told you that I know how to animate. I don't fail to understand the time it takes to make an animation. I know pretty much exactly what you'd do to make a storytime channel, and I know it's mind numbing.

The one who's throwing around baseless assertions about the time it takes to do anything is you.

What do you actually know about the process. Anything? Because you aren't using basic logic, you're using a baseless emotional guess because you really want to believe the storytimers are a cut above Pewdiepie. They're not, though. The animation adds a little charm for the viewer but it's goddamned mind-numbing to work on, and the stories the vloggers tell are nothing special.

huh?

>>Yea Forums doesn't know that every human looks like a wretched crone from that exact camera position
What the fuck ? this can't be real ?

>The one who's throwing around baseless assertions about the time it takes to do anything is you.
That scripting can reduce a 10 minute video into a 5 minute video is not baseless
that a 5 minute video take less time to animate than a 10 minute video isn't baseless either.

Hence why most animated vlogger tend to script what they want to say.
Those are simple facts and it's quite rational.

It's just a guess, but not a random one

OP
>Are animation storytime channels any good?
>Our artform is being taken seriously for one

user
>No, they're all shit. Especially that cunt red head, she's a preachy bitch who's been caught lying about some details of her stories to make them seem more interesting.

What other well-known red head storytime "animator" is there?

Spechie ? I guess she is red hair ?

Retarded ESL user. How long does it take to record ten minutes of continuous audio?

Ten minutes. How long do you think it takes to edit ten minutes of audio? Less time than it takes to edit Pewdiepie's fifteen minutes, because there's 33% less audio.

Hence why most vloggers don't write a script and are able to post once a week or even once a day. It's fast, it's easy, there's no prep work.

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not really you're just apparently bad at drawing from reference
head shape wrong
eyebrows too hard
jawline wrong
eye shape wrong
hairline wrong
etc

No, it's not robowhoever, it was that one who blew out of proportion that stuff about the boyfriend and accusing him of being a pedo

>Spechie
>Red Hair
Are you colorblind

LELAY is the new way to go boys

youtu.be/0U0uxls41ZI

youtu.be/mRWbUEIRFxo

You can always tell who isn't an artist because they said what's wrong instead of drawing it

>Are animation storytime channels any good
a normal person doesn't have so much interesting stories to tell and half of what they say is fake. give it time and they will run out of true storys and get found out.

go watch real animations youtube.com/watch?time_continue=205&v=DYOc-LqkrsE

Who ya rooting for Yea Forums?

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I want to do this shit because I'm not some neurotic introvert. So many popular artists and youtubers I see are anxious messes. Holy shit there needs to be some fucking different shit out there.

Reminder that she got blacked

>Are you colorblind
Nah, ESLs are essentially just retards

Women are out there having consensual sex with black dudes? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

Like in fanart?

This poster being sold on Jaiden’s store looks pretty sick not gonna lie

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Swoozie was one of the first and he’s a fucking chad