You know, for as fondly remembered this show is, it had a whole ton of episodes, characters, plots...

You know, for as fondly remembered this show is, it had a whole ton of episodes, characters, plots, and situations that people fucking hated.

Maybe it just... wasn't that good?

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People don't remember good. They remember great. They also remember shit. Foster's had a ton of good episodes. But it had more shit episodes than great episodes, so most people talk about the shit ones.

It had a really good pilot. The series proper was just 70% screaming.

You’re just about right, it’s the idea that people grew up with it so it must be good, when in reality it’s mediocre as hell
See also: Avatar TLA

Bloo was one of the biggest cases of "depends on the writter" i have seen. His personality and inteligence could really vary between episodes.

Yep, it fucking sucked. It literally sucked more than Flapjack and Adventure time, AS WELL AS Grim Adventures and late Ed Edd and Eddy, but compared to SU it still shines somehow.

I never really cared for Fosters when it was airing, to me it was just another cartoon. Nothing about it was particularly amazing.

Yeah, the actual execution of the premise was fucking terrible. By the end you hated Bloo and wanted him to get adopted by a child molester.

Foster's didn't care about you either.

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All I can think about is the wasted porn considering the premise
Name ONE (1) good cartoon

Jackie Chan

>12 imaginary niggers gangbang imaginary Frankie
>Multiple times every day
I would've populated that entire orphanage with my progeny alone.

This show was a mess .
a very weird concept , some extremely jerk characters , and no continuity .

Looney Tunes

Foster's is absolute, literal shit that proves yet again that quality means nothing and you can get an entire generation of nostalgiafags on your side as long as you air shit in a decent timeslot on a popular American channel.

See also: every single Cartoon Cartoon except Courage

is retarded btw, Avatar is overrated but it's still one of the greatest cartoons in existence.

I just realised i barely remember this show's episodes, besides ones that i actually liked. Which ones were bad/awful?

Here's a classic

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Any episode where Frankie isn't getting double-teamed by nigger dicks is bad. Episodes that focus on non-main characters are literally unwatchable.

I still enjoy it, it’s far from flawless but it’s not like it the only show to have some bad episodes

The “every character is a jerk” complaint will never not baffle me, how the hell can you look at Coco, Wilt, Ed and Frankie and call them assholes.

Foofy Woogums is best girl

Ed and Coco's worst moments were pretty much them going along with Bloo while Frankie was pretty much provoked into being a dick. Like her uploading Herriman's song onto the internet; he deserved it.

Not too many people accuse Wilt or Frankie of being jerks though; if anything, the problem there is that they were the nicest people in the show and constantly getting dumped on as a result.

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Yeah it was better.
>But it had more shit episodes than great episodes
There's one (1) bad episode. And that's Bendy. Everything else Yea Forums claims is bad is Yea Forums having objectively shit taste because "bloo is mean wahhhh."

Eurotrish was pretty awful too.

The entire show was just a weird compromise between McCracken and Faust, and it's pretty obvious to see just how stitched together and awkward it felt. It was really just a midway point for them before they went off to make Wander over Yonder and horse show respectively.

>Bendy
>Europe
>Goofball
>Macs surprise party

These are the only genuine shit episodes, everything else is meh to excellent. 4 eps out of 79 isn’t that bad.

Not to mention everything with Cheese

>M-MUH NOSTALGIA FAGS
Shut the fuck up zoomer.

Why was this show so obsessed with one character always getting shit on per episode, Frankie especially

I hate zoomers even more than nostalgiafags like you user

>Cheese and FredFredBurger were both introduce around the same time
>Cartoon Network promoted both heavily
fuck me that time period was unbearable

That just means/co/ has a bunch of sensitive Sallys.

His first episode is solid, the other two are blah at worst

>No episode where all main char/side char gangraped Frankie
1/10, shit children filler show. Prove me wrong

Frankie should've been a nudist

one user described this show as the being the Mario sunshine of CN shows. Dunno about the whole network but maybe in comparison to the other McCracken-Faust shows

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I'm not a newfag from 2016 that only posts on Yea Forums. What the hell does that mean?

>Maybe it just... wasn't that good?

It wasn't and neither was the PowerPuff Girls (kids liked it for the violence and nothing more)

>someone else calls out PPG
Please tell me you hate WOY more than either of these too, I'm so tired of looking like a contrarian just for not going along with the nostalgia bullshit

Sorry but nope (still alright at best)

Not them, but as far as I'm aware, Sunshine is considered by some to only be good through rose tinted glasses. It was great when you came home from 3rd grade to play it, but if you tried to play it today the gameplay and mechanics would stick out like a sore thumb compared to every other 3D Mario platformer.

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>not taking responsibility

Oh, so it's like wind waker?
Complete fucking trash celebrated by complete retards who have never gone more than ankle deep into the zelda franchise?

Nah dog, I'll take 1 or two, but the other 10-12 she has got to save for herself

Nah man wind waker is great

Tbh ocarina is the overrated one, especially in terms of nostalgia and rose tinted glasses. But there’s never been a “bad” Zelda on a home console.

Honestly I just wish more people played the original link to the past

I'll respectfully disagree with you on Wind Waker. Recently went back and replayed it, had a great time.

You could say that about plenty of shows from the classic days, couldn't you?
There are plenty of shows which are fondly remembered and therefore sacred cows but when judged critically, they tend to fall flat in most capacities of critical judgement.

I mean, when you're young, you're really just looking for the good stuff, and so that's what makes an impression. It's really only when you really know how to look for bad stuff that that side starts to make an impression.

You could also make the vision based white noise argument on terms of animation style. Certainly kept me involved enough when I was younger.

The way to fix Fosters was to de-emphasize the humor and re-emphasize the adventure aspect.

It was basically doomed to squander the premise as a pure comedy show.

It also needed a few rule amendments to fix the lore. Like only young children around Macs age or younger being able to create imaginary friends, and making it so they could only make one each.

It basically needed to be made by the French.

Not nearly as many that are so fondly remembered and fall so flat. There a many that aren't as good, but if this came out today or if it didn't have those names attached, it would be remembered as hot garbage. At best, people would say the movie was cool but think everything that came after was more bad than good.

"""Lore""" wasn't the issue. Faggots that read too much into things instead of just accepting the premise were the issue. You're the same faggots that cause power creep in comics by trying to apply bs logic to powers. Pandering to lore autists is a large part of what's causing modern cartoons to stagnate.

SMS is considered a decent game that could’ve been excellent if it weren’t for some major flaws, but it’s still a cult classic anyway

Wrong AND stupid. Lore is critical component of why people like any sort of story. Shitty broken lore breaks immersion and ruins the premise.

I distinctly remember watching Fosters and thinking it was retarded that Mac's older brother could just imagine a pizza friend and then just eat it for a joke. Or how stupid it was that Madam Foster's house could be filled with hundreds of imaginary creates from just one child. Because if you are NOT stupid, unlike you, the implications of those kind of silly factoids are pretty damn obvious and make the setting nonviable.

The "who cares about lore" mentality has hurt plenty of cartoons of the years. The best example is the Simpsons, having been fucking destroyed by a stagnant status quo, floating timeline and ignoring established lore.

But you only came to this retarded idea because half a decade ago everyone on Yea Forums understood that lore was important, so fucking contrarians decided to argue that it was not. And retarded contrarians rule Yea Forums so views like yours became common.

There's a big difference between lore and characterization/continuity. What you're describing isn't 'who cares about lore?' What you're describing is 'who cares about consistent characterization and continuity?' Which is very different and does hurt media.

What hurts cartoons is expending time and effort explaining shit like "what are imaginary friends made of? How many can one person make? Why isn't the world overrun with them?" when none of that shit fucking matters. If you start looking at the premise like that, it falls apart fucking instantly because every time you explain one thing, ten more unexplained things were created by your shitty explanation. I'm not saying "just don't think about it, lol.' I'm saying that you just have to fucking accept some things. When the fuck did 'suspension of disbelief' stop existing? Hey, guess what? Imaginary friends are real. People can think them up. If you can't accept that simple premise, maybe this isn't the show for you because it's never going to make realistic sense.

>adventure aspect
>fix the lore
Not everything has to be a fucking shonen anime, holy shit, let alone a show about a fucking boarding house full of imaginary friends. The absolute state.

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Frankie should have walked around the house naked

What I'm describing is lore. Lore IS part of characterization and continuity. They're inseparable concept.

>What hurts cartoons is expending time and effort explaining shit like "what are imaginary friends made of? How many can one person make? Why isn't the world overrun with them?" when none of that shit fucking matters.
A) Nothing "matters"
B) It doesn't hurt it at all. It's fun to learn about to intricacies of a world and the way things work in it. What makes their premise unique and their situations worth caring about. People like fun. What is shitty is when a cartoon doesn't care about lore and just half-asses "lol to fix this problem we just use this never before mentioned magic we'll never use again" type solutions that are so common today because cartoons don't give a shit about lore, only about writing immediate satisfaction, not a carefully crafted whole series.

>I'm saying that you just have to fucking accept some things.
This is not a all or nothing situation. You do not have to just accept everything. Sometimes it is quite fine to point out that it is shitty writing that makes a ton of plot holes or disturbing implications. You can suspend your disbelief about some things without going crazy.

Garbage brainlett argument. The premise for Fosters Home is uniquely positioned to be an excellent adventure cartoon. Literally their best episodes are the ones that lean into it, like when Mac and Bloo get lost in the mysterious upper floors of Fosters Mansion and can't find the way down.

Not everything needs to be Ren and Stimpy or Cow and Chicken buddy.

> when Mac and Bloo get lost in the mysterious upper floors of Fosters Mansion
That's still primarily comedy. Adventure implies that the situation is treated with the slightest bit of direness, which it wasn't.

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That is not true at all. There are countless lighthearted adventures. Not every adventure has to be some Heroes Journey quest to defeat the evil wizard threatening the countryside.

A statement like yours is just so fundamentally wrong I half think you're trolling at this point.

Dude foster’s isn’t not an adventure show, that’s barely an adventure. It’s humor

Yes, it was a comedy. To it's detriment.

Works better as a comedy than some lame ass adventure

Fosters was on during a time when CN had ended most of its golden-era series and compared to the other programming that they had at the time it was generally on the better end.
I'd rather watch Fosters than Camp Lazlo or Squirrel Boy or Total Drama Island.

Bloo is one of the worst examples this side of Family Guy of taking a loveable mischief maker with a heart of gold, and gradually making him go more and more overboard and have less redeeming qualities until they end up being a complete sociopath

You realize it could be both. Adventure comedies exist. Look at the Three Caballeros series.

And, as this thread points out, Fosters was a pretty terrible comedy anyway, with lots of awful jokes that didn't land and more bad episodes than good ones.

Hell, I'd go as far to say the emphases on comedy is partially to blame on Bloo's awful characterization. As the writers constantly felt the need to make him say something "funny" - plus the lack of compelling stories, the type that adventures bring, left him without impactful growth/bonding opportunities. This snowballed him into being an unlikbale cunt.

Camp Lazlo's biggest problem was Lazlo himself, Nobody wants to watch a obnoxiously positive hippy treated with such good fortune.

Frankie was the only redeeming factor of that show.

the thing is, wander over yonder was good

This might be the most overblown meme on Yea Forums. About 90% of the time Bloo gets his comeuppance for being a piece of shit. Best example is the rubber pig episode.
>The friends use tickets they won in an arcade to buy a toy pig that they each get to share for an allotted period
>Bloo breaks it because he can't wait for his turn
>Mac makes him win another one
>can only get tickets from the Skeeball game by ricocheting it of his face multiple times
>wastes the tickets on fake teeth
>has to ricochet the ball off his face more
>last pig already sold to another kid
>Bloo has to beat her in Skeeball to win the pig from her
>more face ricocheting
>doesn't even win
>tries to steal the pig from her
>she beats his shit for it
>Mac bails him out and buys him a new pig
>tries to replace it with nobody noticing
>Eduardo freaks out and tackles him and gets the pig lodged in his throat
>Bloo is now the toy
I can think of multiple other examples as well. I don't like entertaining the Yea Forumsmblr meme, but really feels as if some folks here can't handle the slightest bit of adversity.

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I thought grim adventures was pretty good, definitely a ton more rewatchable than this show. Why the comparison?

>I can't get enjoyment out of anything that doesn't make my pee pee hard

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Are you brain damaged or something? The point wasn't about whether he suffers for being a cunt, the point was that he escalated from being a well meaning troublemaker to a walking piece of blue shit

Not really. He was an asshole in the pilot too. His first interaction with Eduardo is trying to punch him, while repeating Terrance's taunts verbatim. He also yells at Mac when he comes to visit because he showed up late even though he had school. His assholery is only dumbed down in the pilot because the it needed to take itself seriously to establish the various aspects of the show. Later episodes that are just silly misadventures don't need to adhere to that restraint.

I feel like you're missing the point that the audience has an expectation for characters. You can start off very flawed, but if you don't fix your shit, or get worse, people are going to start hating them instead of sympathizing.

Also, it matters who you abuse. Bugs Bunny can get away with tormenting Fudd because he's an asshole trying to shoot him. Bloo usually was an asshole to much more likable characters and the cause of many of their problems.

I'm sorry have you seen Yea Forums? Nearly everything shit that gets defended is because people pop a boner for it. Why do you think no one puts effort into female characters, you really don't need to.

I'll never understand why people hate asshole characters so much.

unapologetic assholes are usually hilarious and Bloo was amazing

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Again, you're not supposed to sympathize with Bloo anymore than you should sympathize with Eddy, Zim, or Dr. Venture. The entertainment is seeing them get undone by their own hubris and fail. This was a common occurrence in Foster's.

Love beats hate. Cool.

Eddy, Dr. Venture and even Zim are somewhat sympathetic characters so your argument falls down.

>Egomaniac who nearly genocided his own planet is sympathetic
You may have a point with Eddy and Post Season 2 Dr Venture, but Zim hasn't any redeeming qualities.

Eddy, Zim, and Rusty are terrible people in worlds that are themselves terrible though. Most of the suffering they inflict is usually on people who deserve it on at least some level.

That's not the case with Fosters since pretty much all of the suffering falls on either Frankie or Wilt.

Never understood the Bloo hate. He's the best part of the show.

Because it's mean-spirited, and as we all know, cartoons should never feature any sort of negativity or conflict.

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But Camp Lazlo and Total Drama were good

>the "mean spirited is a meme" meme

You are just an asshole nobody likes in real life. You don't reflect the general audience.

Mac’s surprise party has that one kid ogling Mac’s naked dick, but otherwise, yeah, rotten episode.

It's a cartoon made after 1999, of course it's not good.

>>Europe
Not even slightly bad
>goofball
t. make 'em up pal
>>Macs surprise party
Legitimately one of the best episodes of the show. Besides the fact that Bloo playing Mac as hard as he did is absolutely amazing, the curtains gag was great.

There is not a single bad cheese episode

>kids liked it for the violence and nothing more
>liked it for the violence and nothing more
I don't even like PPG but how is this not a legitimate reason to like something?

I just wanted to bang Frankie. Then I found the flash animation of Blue banging her. Best jerk off of my teens, I dare say.

Scruffy seconds this notion.

> It doesn't hurt it at all.
If you want the answer to any of those questions you're autistic
>It's fun to learn about to intricacies of a world and the way things work in it.
Then go study the real world instead.
>What is shitty is when a cartoon doesn't care about lore and just half-asses "lol to fix this problem we just use this never before mentioned magic we'll never use again"
You're absolutely fucking retarded if you think a non-serialized comedy cartoon needs to explain how their IMAGINARY FRIENDS IN THE FICTIONAL CHILDREN'S CARTOON needs to explain how the rules work

>Not everything needs to be Ren and Stimpy or Cow and Chicken buddy.
Then go watch the things that aren't you absolute fucking moron Fosters is one of those shows, it was never anything else, and it was good because it wasn't trying to be anything else. Make these complaints about serialized shows with actual stories where they'd have the slightest basis in reality.

>Getting this bent out of shape over people being mean to eachother in cartoons

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Jackie Chan Adventures

Link to the past is amazing, but gets old a few dungeons into the dark world.

My main beef with the show is that despite its clever premise, every episode was cliche sitcom storyline stretched from 11 minutes to 22. The episode where the gang loosens up Mr. Herriman is a perfect example of this. It's a predictable episode that does every joke you would expect from it, but everything it stretched out to fill a half-hour.

You can tell that they were both introduced as one off gag characters and CN just wanted more episodes and heavy promotion of them because kids found them funny.

Fosters was a bad show and you are a dumbass

Somebody sounds booty-bothered.

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Thought this show was extremely forced since day 1

It was good. Also Frankie porn

Frankie's hot tho desu
I wanna suck on her red pubes

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Not really, the episodes aired at a constant weekly basis. Zero acceleration times mass means zero force.

I don't... Know if Bloo getting adopted by a child molester is a threat to HIM per-se.

Sunshine came out in 2002, it's older than Yea Forums and really shouldn't be considered a "newfag" thing.

Even the most generic shonen anime is better than any cartoon made in the past 10-15 years. The writing is better, the humor is better, the action is better, and the art is better. Yea Forums wants cartoons to be incredibly low effort like they are today.

Lol

Broly was more successful than any of the other animated films of last year.

Cheese was a thousand times more annoying than this dude.

Coco could be even more of an ass than Bloo in some episodes

Such as?

I remember thinking about this once and coming to the same conclusion. I remembered the show being good but when I tried to think of some fond memories in particular, I just remembered all the episodes that either I hated or that I didn't feel strongly about either way but everyone I knew hated.

I think people just liked the pilot and tolerated the rest, really.

>that episode where Wilt is just a massive doormat and goes through hell to get Bloo some chips until he finally fucking snaps at him when Bloo acts like a bitch over them being the wrong flavor

I think I relate more to Wilt than I'm comfortable admitting

Only because Cheese showed up multiple times

It was that good, there was some bad episodes like every single show with many episodes but most were great.

Cheese first episode was fucking great, Bloo was pretty likeable at this one and had actual development by understanding that Cheese even though annoying was a good person and learned to be more patient.

I LOVE RICKROLLING!

I just remember the Orlando Bloo episode
never have I laughed that hard at an episode as a kid

>sucessful = Better
Minions made more than Lego Movie and Spider-Verse combined and also made more money than any anime movie and series

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Frankie should consider a nudist lifestyle