Opinions?

You sound really insecure in your sexuality and masculinity

that entire statement sounds so pathetic

Your father won't start loving you just because you hate fags.

I'll take the royalty shit over this pedobait, mentally ill shit.

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>pedobait
angel dust is an adult

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Fags need to keep their fetish shit to themselves. Kids shouldn't be exposed to faggotry at such a young age, if ever, honestly.

To be fair, men have resorted to traps because of #MeToo. But somehow i think traps will start turning on people too.

It's a cartoon geared towards kids and he's obviously portrayed in a homosexual manner. It's disgusting and not healthy for children.

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Careful not to sound like a moralfag.

she will never complete this shit show, because she hired a bunch of autistic furries to animate it. they have done nothing but jack off and smoke drugs

>It's a cartoon geared towards kids
it literally is not though, stop being a fake woke soccermom on an anonymous imageboard for (you)s

This trap/sissy-man crap is not healthy for anyone and the fact that adults encourage this shit more and more is disturbing. I'm no religious fanatic, but we have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise, the mentally ill will run the show and then we'll ALL be royally screwed.

It would have to be censored heavily just to get onto adult swim, which has zero interest in paying for this actual shitshow.

Characters swear like they just discovered that it exists, homogays and violence aside.

I don't see why other than you arbitrarily deciding so, I've seen weirder kinks actually being portrayed to children like in Totally Spies, I don't see anons losing their shit there

It's publicly available and shared where kids can see it and it's stylized to be appealing for children. Keep trannies away from our kids, they have enough shit fucking with their heads as it is. The last thing they need to see is porn and other adult-rated crap messing up their developing minds. These animators and artists are irresponsible degenerates.

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If you want a place to start, try reigning in wild bitches complaining about "MUH PATRIARCHY!".

It’s not aimed at children. It is aimed at manchildren, though, so it’s easy to see how you became confused.

At the rate we're going as a society, I'm surprised this shit isn't on Cartoon network already.

>it's animated so it's for kids
did you know you can find family guy, rick and morty, and other adult cartoons on youtube also?

It looks like something out of Calarts, so yeah, I confused this for being a mainstream cartoon because I've seen articles where Trannies are literally reading books to kids in classrooms and it pisses me off that they're allowed to do that.

Just put artists in camps and burn books if you want to be a moral high ground nazi you dip.

Honestly, I think those shows should be blocked off to kids. The fact that parents allow their kids to see that crap just proves how collectively fucked in the head we've all become. I can tell you that my grandparents would've kicked my ass if they saw me seeing this kind of shit and they'd be right to be concerned.

If you don’t want your kids exposed to adult content, then, rather than policing content creators and preventing them from producing content geared towards adults on a platform where adults are also present, Maybe you should just raise your own kids. Hazbin Hotel might be crap, but principally your argument that everyone should censor themselves just because an unsupervised child MIGHT see it can go fuck right off.

Also Hazbin is a bad target to go for when there’s much worse floating around youtube that actually is targeted straight at kids, like weird Elsa/Spiderman porn.

You're moving the goalpost though, anons were saying it's a kids show but it isn't, being mistaken for one just because it's animated is a bullshit excuse, and there's a ton of worse shit on youtube you can get angry about.
Besides I still think kids watching this is way better than growing up with, say, summer camp island, and becoming retarded.

You sound really insecure in your lies and lack of courage, care to post your home address? :)

If artists kept their adult work to adult areas of the internet or to themselves and close friends, I wouldn't care. This tranny garbage is not healthy.

seething

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He's a cutie

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Both extremes are retarded and accepting one over the other is just stupid on your part. How about we accept neither and find a balance instead of accepting extremes? Tranny shit is a fetish and should be kept in the privacy of an adult's home, the same goes to religious beliefs. Neither belong in children's cartoons.

Not at all, I just think people should keep their fetishes to themselves and not pollute the mainstream. I don't want gays and trannies in children's classrooms or universities, influencing minors. I especially do not want gays and trannies being trained to make cartoons either, it's a medium that attracts kids too easily.

Youtube is and has never been a “children’s” area of the internet.

It’s a place where children’s content might be posted, but along with literally every other kind of content. It’s like saying magazines are solely for children and no one can make adult targeted magazines. It’s stupid and narrow minded.

go protest or write an angry letter to someone who gives a shit like the "who will think of the children!" soccer moms you are

Why do gay dudes make being/Liking feminine dudes a thing? I would assume gay dudes like other men cause they want to fuck other big manly men, Not little girly men.

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I will when degenerates like you keep their fetishes on a leash.

you first

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Ever have the realization that you’re on a site full of teenagers

I guarantee you men like this have always existed. I like the variety in humans. Why do feminine men get under other men’s skin so bad?

>Now wanting to fuck Joachim Steuben in the ass while he pistol whips you for not being man enough to dominate him because you're name isn't Colonel Hammer

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And yet, your frothy-mouthed post still hasn't won daddy's love.

Just know that your mindset is not healthy and those with influence are only propping your kind up to take advantage of idiots like yourself. No one legitimately supports your lifestyle and mock you behind your back. This tranny/cuck/sissy shit is not healthy for anyone and the suicide rates show it.

Spider hot
Porn of spider is hit or miss
Actual show will probably be okayish

Already bored before the show is even out. Giving shippers a budget is a mistake.

Holy fuck i don't miss scene girls

interesting, tell me more, but please accompany it with pictures of angel dust, my attention span is too short to understand what you're saying unless you can capture it with images of this waifusbando

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>Child molesters and cannibals always existed, so that makes it okay.

Name 1 thing wrong with cannibalism

>gay character lives in hell

Just as God intended

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My mistake, you people tend to be too busy fussing about how unnatural your dick looks and are constantly preoccupied with thoughts of lopping it off in a vain attempt to feel normal.

I wish I could say the same. Where I live every time I go outside I see nothing but pretentious arrogant hypocritical pseudo-intellectual rednecks TOGETHER with these cowardly mentally ill fucks. My only saving graces were my parents... well a parent and a half. My dad is literally Yea Forums but half good looking, half smart and 100% bores your head about physics, chemistry, politics, geography which don't go beyond 12th grade level then there's my mother who's actually an intellectual both in personality and smarts. Who's capable of being charming in a non 14 year old way, who's capable of responsibility, open mindness, etc, etc.

I'm wondering what elements inspired and spawned the 2000s. Full of sleek stuff, good directors, but also full of actual diversity in personalities, technology, culture, books, music, etc. beyond its "Extreme" and "The Matrix" main trend it had plenty of diverse tastes.
Unlike the 70s full of trilby hats and jazz and 80s full of metal and punkers ... and 90s full of bad singers paired with space-themed pop-electro music.

The 60s and 70s were horrible. I wonder how the fuck the children of the 30-50s viewed the world that they could possibly spawn that god awful trash. Same with the children of the 90-2000s and even earlier to spawn the 2010s "no effort internet humour" shit.

you're right, people like you exist and that is one hundred percent not okay

I'm sorry are you implying only trannies have a tranny fetish? sounds optimistic

It's animalistic and the act spreads nasty diseases that are unique to the practice. Humans are supposed to be repressing animal instincts to improve their society and environment with each generation.

>It's animalistic
So is eating and fucking

Angel Dust is just an effeminate twink, someone with gender dysphoria wouldn't display their chest or accentuate their shoulders like that.

If you're into sissy shit, you're apart of the sissy shit. Do yourself a favor and throw it away before you find yourself showing your ass on a livestream.

>Literally trying to argue for cannibalism

Just do us all a favour and die. The rest of us shouldn't have to bend over backwards to compensate for the fact you're so fucked up

sex also does all of that, do you not fuck? are you a virgin? an incel perhaps?

do you know what always existed? Bullying. Even with animals the weakest members of the pack are often ostracized by the strongest ones to assert dominance

an effeminate twink obviously has some form of gender dysphoria if they find joy in looking feminine when they're male.

this
and I have to say, where was all of this reactionary autism for princess marco? in an actual kids show? sounds to me like people are just angry at the creator of hazbin hotel for some random reason

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You people are normalizing gender dysphoria, so I'm not surprised you're trying to normalize cannibalism too.

That's not what dysphoria is. Also he's clearly still presenting as male.

If you're genuinely confused by this you're probably deep in the closet gay and hope he's actually a girl.

In fucking spades, every time Yea Forums jerks it to some new twink husbando some moralfag a la has to go around shitting up the thread because billy and jane might see the pretty boy and get weird ideas.

I'm not trying to normalize anything, if anything I'm making an argument for how it's rarer than people think by pointing out that not every slightly feminine guy has dysphoria or is a tranny and that just being a gay twink is much more common.

you suspiciously did not reply to our arguments

>Not fapping to pov crossdress femdom.

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If he's not confused whether he's a man or not, then why does he dress like that? Why would anyone dress like that unless they're confused or feel uncomfortable about being born a male? The dude (like any other twink like him) looks like he suffers from gender dysphoria to me.

>then why does he dress like that?
He likes it

fuck off, sjw cuck

Fair enough.

I see, I have to say I'm not surprised

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>It's publicly available and shared where kids can see it and it's stylized to be appealing for children
Oh so Hentai is for kids

How the fuck is npc normalfag like you even on here?

Morals keeps societies running. Without some glue to keep civilization running, we'd never have the free time to make the kind of shit you enjoy. I support freedom of expression, but trannies and fags like 'em go too damn far when they trot out in public.

>opinions
I have all sorts of guilty pleasures, but I can explain all of them, even if only emotively. Besides Angel Dust's design (apparently), can anyone point to *anything* in Hazbin Hotel and say 'this is good'? Every thread about it points out more incompetence and missed opportunities.

>Not at all, I just think people should keep their fetishes to themselves and not pollute the mainstream
FUCKING THANK YOU but this isn't a fetish. 'Evil, mercurial bisexual' is an archetype. It's been in tons of shit, though I only remember Asura's Wrath offhand.

It shouldn't be available to kids and it seems that it shouldn't be available whatsoever if people are comfortable enough to spout it out in public as freely as they do. If people kept this kind of crap to themselves or in private or in an adult area or adult website, I wouldn't give a single shit.

>My generation is so fucked in the head. Men aren't supposed to be feminine.

>Things only started to exist when I started noticing them

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I prefer traps because I think men are just better at being women than women are.

>Besides Angel Dust's design (apparently), can anyone point to *anything* in Hazbin Hotel and say 'this is good'?
I don't know man I just want to fuck the characters, moralfags need to go

bisexuality, homosexuality... both are fetishes like inflation and sissification.

I've been aware of this stuff for decades. It disturbed me when I found out my uncle was a gay crossdresser when I was a kid and it disturbs me now.

>degenerate is blind to degeneracy unless he can't fap to it
Do you not post in the waifu threads?

Not him, but are you one of these low IQ retarded nigroes I heard so much about?

I don't think should want to emulate women in the first place, same with women emulating men. Neither are healthy mindsets.

That would make heterosexuality a fetish too, you stupid nigger. Your comparisons make zero sense.

>Neither are healthy mindsets
why not? can you give a logical explanation that doesn't make you sound like a flat-earther?

Just because something is fap material, doesn't make it something that should be shared far and wide and accepted as normal.

your waifu is fap material just as much as this twink femboy, if not more
prove me wrong

heterosexuality is a normal and natural thing that brought us into the world. I wouldn't count that as a fetish.

Listen, men do all sorts of things we don't want to do. A lot of times if there's a job that needs to be done and no one else will do it, men gotta man up and do what nobody else will.
If women would stop being terrible at being women, then maybe men wouldn't have to do their job. But so far, it's turned out for the best. Women sucked at being women so now it's time for men to get the job done right.

I don't expose kids and other people to what I fap to unlike trannies and homosexuals. I keep shit I like to myself or purely in adult areas like any other normal person.

Don't act like you have some moral high ground, you stupid nigger. Just say you hate faggots and trannies and call it a day instead of throwing out some SJW-brand autism.
At least you'd be being honest.

Not him, but they really weren't worth responding to. "Okay, you know how both of those are necessary? Right." was clearly going to lead into a long, boring conversation about bullshit.

In future put in some effort

men are supposed to be protecting and supporting women by doing dangerous labor while women should be birthing and raising kids while keeping up the home in a support role of their own.

For example: whenever I see a female engineer or a female construction worker, or a female soldier, it disturbs me, because that work is dangerous to her health and well being. Who is at home taking care of or having kids if she isn't? Why aren't the men doing what they're supposed to do?

We have natural roles we were born with and should be exploiting what we're good at instead of trying to interfere with someone else who can do said role better.

sure you do, you would never lie to me here anonymously to justify your moralfaggotry

This as fuck

just look at the fag nest that got disturbed and how disgusting these retards are.

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I don't hate people whom keep shit to themselves or in a proper setting.

Can we go back to our blue-board-appropriate fap posting

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Your projection is telling.

Do you even know what projection means?

Keep this kind of shit in /trash/ or /aco/ where it belongs.

What a traditionalist, narrow-minded way to think.

No has to live by societies hetero-normative gender roles. You can't force people to conform to the way you view the world.

I have no reason to lie to you about anything, you already know I'm a degenerate that likes feminine boys

>thinking people should act within boundaries that align with their biological sex so society doesn’t go down the shitter means you’re insecure
Not sure if cope, projection, or just bait. Either way, go shit yourself.

I don't want porn though, just people talking about this character and sharing cool fanart, which to me counts as fap posting because I am sexually invested in the character.

Rape the chestfloof and then throw him into the abyss.

>Women should be shackled to shitty, obnoxious children instead of actually doing anything fulfilling
>Men should be risking their lives for filthy kikes instead of being able to do anything that actually benefits themselves
Retard.

Which is why you should keep this shit where it belongs and not in a normalfag area like Yea Forums.

Believing that men and women should stick to what they're good at is not retarded.

>Yea Forums
>a normalfag area
are you sure you aren't mistaking this place for tumblr?

If our ancestors didn't stick to their hetero gender roles, we wouldn't be here.

>called the gayest board on Yea Forums consistently for over a decade
>normalfag area
Take your kind and get out, you nigger. You don't belong here and you never will.

The owner of this site basically made Yea Forums and 4channel into a normalfag area, so, yeah.

>Thinking people are good at things based solely on gender instead of realizing that people are good at specific things on a case to caste basis
Are you actually autistic?

Not him:
I agree with you in principle but the moment I see "hetero-normative" I can't help but want to disagree on principle.

Again, you're not wrong in that people should be able to pick what what want to do in life career wise or what have you, there's nothing explicitly wrong with treating what you call hetero normative gender roles as, well, normal.

In point of fact, the more parity there is in job salary, hiring, education and career opportunity, oddly enough the vast majority of people willingly elect to choose roles for themselves. Society isn't pigeon-holing people into these gender roles. For the vast majority of people, they simply want these roles. This is including in societies which are deemed as being the "most gender equal." Such as Norway - which in 2008 was the most gender equal nation on earth. Yet in norway, about 90% of construction and engineering jobs remains men.
It's a paradox that not a lot of people have an answer to, but it's possible that men and women are simply predisposed, naturally to certain behaviors.

Ironically, being gay or a tranny these days is now more normal than being straight, at least to the mainstream media, so, yeah, I guess so.

Honk honk.

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But it's still not for normalfags, and your kind isn't welcome

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No, I'm being a realist. Men are better than women in certain roles and vice versa. We're a gender dimorphic species.

In the Mainstream media's eyes, you're more normal than I am. In this twisted society, being a conservative in any respect is now seen as legitimately dangerous.

>I'm being a realist
No, you're being a retard. If people thought like your retarded self, we wouldn't have things like electricians, computer programmers or anything because you believe all men should be doing backbreaking labour.

Whom do you think made all the shit you listed? Mentally healthy, conservative minded men.

>Mentally health, conservative minded men
Except most famous programmers are mentally ill spergs, like John Carmack.

Wow user I almost agreed with you. Except I hate stereotypical rednecks who aren't actually good at anything but wasting their lives building a tragedy story for themselves.
I also almost agreed with you, except I hate twinks/sissies, zoomers, autistic weirdos who breed other autistic weirdos and create circlejerks out of it.

Now this is a man I can agree with. First the cooking, then the nurse jobs, now their feminity!!! Show the zoomers how it's done.

My dad's a stay at home dad now that he is retired and raising his grandkids while his wife still works, and he is better at home than mom was. Better cook. Better at doing housework. Better at driving the kids around when they need to be somewhere.

Apparently not if they can find the will and have the intelligence to build complex machinery. If they were mentally ill spergs, they'd be posting tranny cartoon porn instead of building computers.

>dressing the way he wants to dress like a man
>fucking who he wants to fuck like a man
You're a bitchy woman who you can't fuck
stop being a bitch you bitch
Masculinity is about independence & self-determination you raging whore of tradition.

Your so far from a real man that I cant decide whether to feel sad or laugh at how much of a bitch you are.

good

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>have the intelligence to build complex machinery
That's what famous spergs are known for, user.

And also mentally ill women. Except the mentally ill of those days were actually productive, unlike this generation of ... zombies.

>because you believe
Not him.
When you are telling someone what they believe, you're putting words in their mouth.

He's retired, which means he worked his ass off and is enjoying his golden years and his wife is only working because she's forced to due to economic demands and modern societal pressures. Younger men who can do shit he can't should be doing the work he can't do anymore, which is normal.

>It's putting words in someone's mouth when they've specifically said that thing previously in the discussion
You retarded?

Yeah I'm not sure if I'd call angel dust manly or masculine.
He definitely looks feminine to me. In dress and the way he was designed.

True. I blame the government putting estrogenic shit in our food and drinks. It's creating more and more of these disgusting trannies with serious mental disorders. On the bright side however, trannies are more likely to off themselves in a short amount of time.

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The greeks and romans regularly crushed boipussy
Also gay people let a population expand linearly rather then exponentially like hetros do

If you mean reproduction, I added in hetero-NORMATIVE gender roles because you can be straight and not follow the norms for how a straight person should look, act, etc.

Need proof? Look at South Korea, where men use cosmetics and skin care to have a softer, youthful appearance that is preferred by women.

Not arguing that men and women shouldn't want to follow gender roles, I agree. But there should be an avenue for other that don't fit into that standard, and it should be accepted or at the very least tolerated.

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>I like freedom expression, except when I don't like it
getta loada this fag

we are busting out the conspiracy theories now? I don't mind, you guys give me someone to reply to so I can post more fanart

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Quote him when you do that, be specific.
I can even do it for you here:
>men are supposed to be protecting and supporting women by doing dangerous labor

Don't put words in people's mouths. Especially when what they actually said is more effective.

They suffered from lead poisoning.

>tfw i was born in 1978
shiggy

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>But there should be an avenue for other that don't fit into that standard, and it should be accepted or at the very least tolerated.
Perfectly reasonable.
I knee jerk at the term "hetero normative" because generally I see it as taking issue with what is normal being treated as what's normal. That is, the majority or what's expected. What's normal isn't a condemnation of what falls outside of the norm explicitly. Just a statement of what is the usual result.

The people and autists of yesterday are actually productive compared to our coach potatoes.
Which leaves us with 99% bystanders and 1% talentless effortless bystanders who thought they could do anything right. p
Pure concentrated idiots who also happen to be Deviantart losers without any talents.

The cartoonists, trannies, gays, feminists, actual weirdos would be disappointed in the degenerates of today.

Its an old Deviantart trope. For some reason female nerds really love to draw crossdressing men and yaoi faggots.

South Korea is ruled by a feminist cult that treats men like criminals. They don't have a healthy society.

>draw a girl
>don't add girly eyelashes and call it a boy

Yeah nice one

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I know and it's disturbing as hell. The fact that men practice this too is even more disturbing.

There have always been low-t sissy men. They just have a niche in society now

Most conservatives are seen as corpocucks and fools by the mainstream. Most conserves are just cringe while alt-rights are edgy-cringe who act as controlled opposition to SJW so proles develop false consciousness

Your not a revolutionary

Nah i'm just mimicking Alex Jones now.

>anything that doesn't confirm my biases is unhealthy

>conspiracy theory
90% of plastics, BPA free included, leech estrogen-like chemicals into food and plastic. This is not an opinion, this is a fact.

npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals

You aren't wrong. Most conservatives are just as shitty as liberals in many ways, but at least conservatives are closer to the right track even if they are still a mile off the target.

>into food and plastic
Food and water. Pardon.

This 100x.

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yeah, this is part of the problem, like lead was to the Romans. However, we should be more ashamed of ourselves, we knew better.

Then why do FtMs exist?

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Who is she I have a mighty need

oh didn't you hear?

It's not my intention to put anything in anyone's mouth, I'm just pointing out what I believe should be obvious. Men and women are better than each other in different roles, that's just a general truth, I mean, of course there are freak exceptions but those are extremely rare circumstances.

>those are extremely rare circumstances
according to who?

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The difference is, is that they kept their fetishes to themselves and put their energy into something productive, like many of us should be doing. I'm not going to deny that we all have a little part of us that is fucked up, but I expect that we keep that fucked up part of us on a leash instead of adding it the foundation that makes up the core of our lives.

according to the history of mankind. Men pretending to be women didn't build the civilization that we live in.

While FtMs are a much lower rate than MtFs, I will still have to say that I don't know. The statement that plastics are leeching chemicals into our food or water does not mean that I am making a guess at what that means. Definitely needs more research.
In point of fact, the study I linked also was not particularly unbiased. The results lead me to believe that more research would be extremely helpful at this point. Both more research by independent groups and research into what these chemicals do in lab animals such as rats and mice.

Post his dick already.

He's not terribly wrong about daughters of megalia. They're extremely radicalized extremists and have their claws pretty deep in the government. They're why porn is banned in south korea, mostly.

We live in a time when women have elevated such men to the top of society. They fetishize them in fashion, conscript them in politics, and try to idolize them before other men in the hopes that all men will follow.

Yeah, sorry about generalizing the daughters of megalia, they're a poison and deserve a more in-depth smack down than the half-assed comment I made, but I don't feel like typing a whole book atm.

>not pictured: his girlfriend
Dogs truly are man's best friend

>for some reason
Because they're so unfamiliar with masculine figures that they can only feel comfortable with sexually unintimidating males. The male version of this hangup would be men who fantasize about blank slate angel waifus and complain about the friendzone.

It would seem giving women the ability to vote and force themselves into male roles was a mistake, doesn't it?

based retard

Which are we talking about is rare, because the answer's different either way.
If we're talking about men and women entering "non traditional" careers, then there's a documentary that explores this that's very interesting, I found.
youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs
It's Norweigan but the link has english subtitles.

IF you're talking about male to female or female to male transgendered individuals, the answer is a bit more complex. It's difficult to gauge how many transgender individuals there are in the united states. The estimates I've seen were based on name changes submitted to the Social Security Administration.

65% of those seeking a name change from one sex to the other were male to female, and 35% were female to male.
Of those, there were roughly 89,000 or so name change submissions in 2010 requesting a name change from one gender to the other.

Compare that to the overall population in 2010 in the united states which was about 308,700,000. Simple math tells you that the number is about 2.8%

Being gay as fuck is not the worse sin of Viv's artwork. Of all the things you could complain about her shitty artwork, you complain about the faggotry? How's about the complete and total lack of a grasp of anatomy? The stick-figure design? The same goddamn color palette for everything? We already know the DA crowd is gay as fuck, why bother bring it up?

>Gay internet tough guy autism
I bet he's shivering in his boots.

>people are just angry at the creator of hazbin hotel for some random reason
>he doesn't know about Vivzie's history
>he doesn't remember Vivzie's freakout over Zootopia since they "stole her idea"
>he doesn't remember all the animations she's stolen or traced outright over the years, even from shit like We're Back:A Dinosaur's Story
People dislike viv since she's a fucking drama queen who steals shit from other people.

I will definitely agree with you that scientific studies never hurt, as long as we have some logical and strong basis for thinking something should be shunned.
I'm afraid I do not own such content user.

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I have no issue with art syles, especially if they're in cartoon settings. Also, I bring this up, because it isn't brought up enough, I hate that this faggotry is as accepted as it is. Imagine if Dobson's inflation fetish became so mainstream, that the dude is allowed to enter classrooms to teach kids about inflation. It's disgusting and it's not healthy and we need to remind people why.

I like how you disregard completely what he is talking about to point to some sociology bullshit.

What IS he talking about, user?

Unequivocal based. May the disco trannies and tumblr refugees seethe eternally as you live rent free in their minds.

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>Most conservatives are seen as corpocucks
Oh yeah the ones who praise Hollywood and its elites, the ones who argue for big Corporations to run our lives and protect diversity
>controlled opposition to SJW
Right, Everything right to extreme left views are Nazis, Waste of trips fuck you

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People support way worse, like shadman, I don't see a problem with wanting to fuck a character of hers, it's not like we're giving her money

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It bothers them this much, because their subconscious is screaming at them on a daily basis to the point where it drives 40% to suicide. That's why these people lash out, they want the noise to stop, news flash though:

Even if I died tomorrow and stopped posting, reality will always remind them about who they really are for me and no amount of Mainstream Media brainwashing and other subversives will drown out that noise. A man is a man and a woman is a woman.

>all these replies

Thats how you know hes right

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I don't see the problem

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It's ok to fantasize about being a princess with big tits in private, but if you're just some regular guy who is capable of raising and supporting a family, you should be building said family instead of trying to convince everyone that you're a princess with big tits, hoping someone will agree with you.

It's just destructive behavior and seeing so many young guys fall into this "I'm a princess" garbage saddens me.

Is "praising and arguing for" corporations worse than writing the laws that give them more power?

I see an issue with people trying to advertise this show, as that's a rules violation.

The others aren't.

>shit is disgusting
>>CLOSET SCATOPHILE MUCH??? INSECURE IN YOUR SEXUALITY, HUH?

Look at all the nothing you can do about it, though. If you're tired of the culture that allows what you see as degeneracy, move to one that agrees with you. You'll be more well-adjusted for it instead of constantly wondering which way the dude next to you answers the question 'Are traps gay?'

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But the thing is you can't distinguish who is and isn't a shill, just because someone speaks positively of something or just wants to fuck a character, that doesn't mean they're shilling and you can't assume that on a board for discussing cartoons, just because someone is discussing a cartoon and not bashing it.

>move to one that agrees with you.
You imply that there'll always be somewhere else to run to.

>But the thing is you can't distinguish who is and isn't a shill
Absolutely right.
Which is why, even though I've no interest in this show, I think discussion still belongs here. If there was a way to remove the shills forcibly or to tell them to go fuck off with their advertising, that'd be great. Leave the discussion to people genuinely interested in this, not those with a vested interest in selling it.

But the anonymous nature of the site prevents such a disambiguation. So I think erring on the side of being permissive of discussion, tainted though it may be is the more judicious course of action.

you see,No wonder people say Yea Forums is tumblr as fuck.

The entirety of the culture I live in is tolerating and accepting this degenerate culture that I'm currently protesting. What am I supposed to do? Just let it happen without saying a word? No thanks.

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You won't do shit except for screaming anonymously on the internet anyway

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>and the act spreads nasty diseases that are unique to the practice.

Only if you're a retard that undercooks the meat or eats the brains.

>It's a cartoon geared towards kids and

Haha holy shit you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.

When enough people do it, it seems to work just fine apparently, that's why you people got as far as you did. You bitched and moaned about being oppressed until some idiots with influence whom don't know any better took pity on you and allowed your fetish to become more mainstream. The pendulum always swings back.

>You won't do shit except for screaming anonymously on the internet anyway

Not him, but you're really gonna say that only weeks after an Aussie shitposted four dozen Muslims to death IRL?

I got it confused for something geared towards kids due to the art style, yes.

So you're saying that they're free to say or do what they want in public - yet so are you.
Without that freedom, you wouldn't be free to voice your dissent against what you perceive to be their degeneracy. Is that right?

Not in your lifetime, though. You're genuinely pissing into the wind. Bear in mind, I don't disagree with you, but I also understand that there's not one fucking thing someone shitposting on Yea Forums is capable of doing to enact a cultural shift at the speed you're requiring. In spite of what daddy Sargon tells you.

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That was just one retard, most of the others bitching are spineless and would never do anything, prove me wrong

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Built for human dickings.

The difference is, is that I'm not. If I said the things I'm saying now in public, I could lose my job or be assaulted in the street. Apparently, being a decent human being is grounds to being ostracized from society.

>My generation is so fucked in the head. Men aren't supposed to be feminine.
Fuck off

You're kinda tempting fate, lad.
First it's just one, then it's two, and soon enough you've got Cybernazi RWDS marching in your suburb blasting Erika.

what the fuck is up with this show and all this weird shit? it's creepy as fuck

>assuming I watch that fat fuck spout nonsense.

No, I just believe that more people should come out together and get shit done instead of staying quiet out of fear.

>he doesn't remember Vivzie's freakout over Zootopia since they "stole her idea"
She never said they stole her idea she was just worried about brand confusion
>he doesn't remember all the animations she's stolen or traced outright over the years, even from shit like We're Back:A Dinosaur's Story
Same poses arent tracing if its done from scratch. Thats called referencing

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>women are as good as men at doing x
Why is it so difficult for you guys to accept that men and women have evolved slightly differently?

A good justification for us to start punching conservatives in self-defense and bring the general population on our side though
oh so user was retarded, gotcha

Again, I don't disagree. But the problem is that there are too may 'lol 1488 HDNW' dipshits poisoning the well of your argument for you to come out either clean or successful.

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Being better or not doesn't mean we don't let people do what they like. Some people outright stink at video games but there's no harm in letting them play.

>First it's just one, then it's two, and soon enough you've got Daesh Jihadis marching in your suburb shouting Allahu Akbar.
So when is the left going to start punching muslims?

BASED Clowntina poster

Well I never said anything about not letting people choose their occupation. But liberals tend to whine about not being enough female CEOs

>A good justification for us to start punching conservatives in self-defense and bring the general population on our side though
Firstly, attacking first isn't self defense.
Secondly, beating up people for wrongthink is exactly what happened in Weimar Germany and directly lead to rising popular support for the Nazis. Commy thugs going around bullying people, and in response, Nazi thugs engaged them.
You don't want Hitler 2: electric boogaloo, do you user?

Sharia zones are a thing, user.
>when is the left gonna start punching Muslims
Not soon enough.

Well you can lead a horse to water but you can't make em' drink. I think that's the lesson that needs to be applied here.

>OH shit, leftists are actively assaulting right wingers because of one nut job!
>we need to band together for protection, possibly even retaliate
Good job, user.

But why the fuck lead it to water instead of letting it choose if it wants to? Surely women aren't children and can make decisions for themselves

Well, yes, user that was the analogy.
The analogy here is that leading the horse to water would be comparable to making laws that prevent discrimination in wages based on sex, race, etc.

But even with laws criminalizing the discrimination based on sex and the like, you can't make women WANT to become CEOs. The "problem" if you want to call it that is that largely, when people are allowed to make decisions for themselves seem to maintain these gender roles by choice, rather than coercion or a lack of opportunity.

Not an argument.

>Heh if I say kike they won't think I'm a tranny

Embarrassing

>hates kids
Cringe and Bluepilled

so if this actually becomes a thing, they're 100% writing off or changing the voice actor for the snake guy, right?

Stampy ain't doing so good right now

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>This example that contradicts my assertation doesn't count!

Honk honk

>when people are allowed to make decisions for themselves seem to maintain these gender roles by choice
I don't consider this a problem and I wonder why would anyone else think this is a problem
>making laws that prevent discrimination in wages based on sex, race, etc.
Should such laws exist though? I think not considering how ridiculous they've become lately like requiring allowing women to participate in all female strength competitions or else its discrimination

>raising children isn't fulfilling
Go back to you filthy bugman

Now I do.
All these people saying this “I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG GENERATION” have never looked beyond their textbooks at what happened in history.
Shit’s always been bad and it always will. Just look after yourself and people close to you, you’ll last longer.

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>I wonder why would anyone else think this is a problem
Some people actively seek equality in outcome instead of equality of opportunity.

>Should such laws exist though?
I'd argue that it should be unlawful to discriminate based on sex/gender, race, religion, creed or sexuality. By discriminate, I mean hire, serve or otherwise patronize based on those characteristics. Meaning, firing someone or hiring them just because of their race or sex should be unlawful. I don't think that hiring practices should be unfair to achieve a desired result. Only that those hiring practices give fair and unbiased consideration based on qualification.

>states a fact
>"fuck off"
remember those 80s movies where everyone is some fucking mutant weirdo with hair colors and you can't even tell if they're man or woman?
looks like that's where we're going...

>man shouldn't be free to discriminate in his own home or business

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How many children do you have?

>thread derailed by screaming /pol/faggots crying

In his own home?
You sure can.

Your business?
That's another point.

All these men complaining about Angel Dust, being too sinful, ironically Angel is being of hell. I haven't this amount of men coming out in angry droves because they accidentally fapped to a male drawing in a long time.
>Doesn't know women can do something besides birthing droves of kids.
Aren't you the same lads that complain that women don't do hard labour, when you finally see it you start complaining she shouldn't being doing that, is there no pleasing you?

I unabashedly like traps.
I do not like angel dust's design.

i'm more worried about all these tinpot political cranks that want world wars and forced labor getting into public office than deviantart graduate fujos getting animation industry jobs but i understand where you're coming from

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least she's self aware

a* seen* I should have proof read that.
I don't see the appeal of Angel traps design either but since a lot of these men (or one determined white knight gone red pilled) think the impressionable may find him attractive I can only assume they do.

Boring

fpbp

I think you might be making a bit of a generalization for reasons why and who might be not interested in Vivzie's designs. Vivzie? Vivize? I don't even know how to spell her name.

The only boundaries one needs to follow are those dictated by law.

Maybe if kids were supervised by someone older and wiser than them, we wouldn't have to worry about that.
Shit, you could even have two of them...but what would you call them?
"Adults"?
"Parents"?

I want more than anything for Stamper to get his shit together and make content. I can only hope this row with the crackwhore doesn't end in him getting fucking killed

Nice try, pedo. They ain't for sale

This, this thread was a mistake, I'm sorry.

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>Character is a denizen of Hell that is slated for rehabilitation at a psychiatric hotel
>People think he's a positive depiction and "propaganda"

Facts

He's feminine for a man. You'd never actually confuse him for a woman.

Probably, but it's humorous, since the direction of the argument is that's a gay/trans sexual deviant and that this terrible design can turn the kids gay could indicate some...thoughts.

i see much discuss
is there episode

First off I'm offended that you think I have a sexual interest in them. Second I just want to harvest the organs for profit. Thirdly a little five fingers discount would be used.

Personally I don't think there's any chance he's going to turn the kids gay.
I'd be more worried about kids seeing this and thinking it's ok to draw like her or emulate her design methods.

I’ll blame shitty parenting first, this is planned to be an adult cartoon.

Y'all should be talking about how horrid the art is instead. I mean look at this It's atrocious. How did it even get greenlit?

It's not greenlit yet

whats up with Stamper?

>It's a cartoon geared towards kids
fucking what

>this level of damage control
you fucked up.

it's a piece of youtube animation user, it does not work like that.

>greenlit
how come all the people criticizing the show don't know jack shit about it?

You don't need to be informed to saddle up a bandwagon

>greenlit
OHNONONONONO

it's almost like they're shitposting

>Merely pretending

ok, you have a better explanation then?

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Designs look like something Hot Topic would throw up back in 2004. The writing and the songs are garbage, but I guess it looks pretty adequately animated.

not him but how about crossboarders who don't know shit about animation, like a good 90% of normalfags?

He invited a crackhead off the street to live with him. Since then there has been gangs, guns, and just a lot of stupid shit for someone to willingly involve themselves in

yeah dude flamer characters designed for ugly white girl appeal are Good Actually and i should stay in my lane lmfao
give me a fuggin break bro

So we're still nothing but a bunch of animals despite our accomplishments, that explains a lot

You're agreeing with me though, I just said they're shitposters

>this independent animated product has no right too exist because i don't like it, and i'm totally not thinly veiling my /pol/tard rage with soccer-mom rhetoric "wont somebody please think of the children" on Yea Forums.

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>Geared towards kids
Lolwut
Also there's nothing wrong with having LGBT characters in kids cartoons, the fact that everyone feels the need to bring attention to the fact is what's causing it to be fetishised and pushed to the forefront rather than being interpreted the same as a straight character, and that goes for both left and right opinions. Neither of them are having sex on screen, get over it.

This is superbly based. Some of these replies are disgusting cope.

Femininity vs masculinity is more about submission vs domination, more than gender itself.

>people shouldn't be allowed to shame the creators of these cartoons
The user that started this whole thing didn't say anything about banning

based and truthpilled, I agree with you

Twenty years ago faggots said they just wanted to not be oppressed and be tolerated by society and also reassured boomers that they're not going after their kids. Nowadays faggots want inclusion of LGBTQI2APPSKKK+ characters in cartoons.

It seems we went from "tolerance" to "embrace faggotry or you're a bigot"

>Also there's nothing wrong with having pedo characters in kids cartoons, the fact that everyone feels the need to bring attention to the fact is what's causing it to be fetishised and pushed to the forefront rather than being interpreted the same as a straight character, and that goes for both left and right opinions. Neither of them are having sex on screen, get over it.

Trans and efeminate men were invented in a russian lab in 1989, as a last strike from dying soviet comunism to ruin western civilization

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The funniest thing is that Angel Dust is just another stereotype of what people expect from a homosexual in hell but both LGBTQ+ Advocates (even Vivzie) and their detractors can't tell if that's the point.

The best part is that LGBTQ+ advicates will glorify all of Angel Dusts behavior because of his homosexual tendencies and will emulate them to fit towards the idolization. This will in fact give LGBTQ+ detractors more ammunition to castigate LGBTQ+ as drug-induced nymphomaniac sodomites as they indulge the very stereotypes they claim not to be. Especially since the new LGBTQ+ culture is about showing off said behavior in public to be recognized/proud then more people are going to push back. This creates a cycle of self-destructive escalation where more LGBTQ+ people feel pressured to be polygamous drug users to fight against the "bigots" who shun their brave new culture. So wheter by overdose, STDs/Needle sharing, and the depression that comes with the above, Angel Dust is actually helping the LGBTQ+ self-implode and kill themselves by 1000 cuts.

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>THEY HATED HIM BECAUSE HE TOLD THE TRUTH

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This thread is full of soccer mom "b-but think of the kids! Cartoons are only for kids! Waaaah, awaaaaah, everybody should bend to my moral values." bullshit that I hate. No, fuck you guys, I'm only thinking of myself here. I don't want to constantly be bombarded with other people's fetishes because they're disgusting. But so is my fetishes to other people. I don't even want to be bombarded with my own fetishes, I jack off on my own time in private, in places designed for that. I keep them hidden so other people don't have to look at them and think that I'm a sick bastard because I have an ounce of self awareness and decency. I don't constantly have to pollute everywhere with my fetish so I can feel more secure because me and most of the rest of humanity aren't insecure little bitches that need that as an anchor for their personalities. Most of humanity doesn't feel the need to constantly put labels on themselves so they can feel better and like they're a part of a group of people that they like because most of us have fucking friend groups full of people that we actually like, and we don't do so much controversial bullshit that we have to be a vicious dumb fuck to anyone that isn't a part of our group. You're all insane and need to stop with these identity politics and find some new friends before every kid at the lunch table is the weird smelly kid that no one wants to hang out with.

>it shouldn't be available on a platform available too children
suure buddy

>everybody should bend to my moral values." bullshit that I hate
>I'm only thinking of myself here
>identity politics
Cringe

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on what?? is this shit even out?

>check creator
>tumblr artstyle
>furry
>landwhale
>deviantArt

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>buzzwords

My nigga.

It's all true though. I mean him/her/it being a furfag should be a huge fucking red flag

Where do you think you are?

Doesn’t metrosexuality go in and out of style constantly? Even the Quran talks about not trusting feminine men around women

in his epic hugbox where screaming buzzwords means things.

Yeah, metrosexuality, pansexuality, and the like represent the furthest swing of the political pendulum. Happened in Rome, happened in India, happened in China, then the British Empire, and it's happening here.
Homosexuality, on the other hand, never goes away, it only fluctuates in levels of acceptance

Truly a Roman in a Greek world.

If you hate Yea Forums degeneracy, why are you on Yea Forums?
Why are there now Boomer LARPing normalfags shitting up Yea Forums?

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Lol jannies are fucking gay, i make a accurate theory about the estrogen epidemic, they remove it.

what fags

Or that it's bait deliberately tailored to get responses, the fact that he's willing to reply doesn't lend any creedence to either side

Except pedophilia is a fetish and mental disorder, not a sexuality. And before you shout "durrr transexuality is a mental disorder", consider that trans people aren't a danger to others and including trans characters in kids shows is a good way to lessen the adverse effects of people who were already going to experience gender dysphoria

>born in le wrong generation

Good to know. I guess all those bait posts with "there's nothing wrong with trannies/jews" that had 40+ replies were right too.

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i'm not threatening a cartoon's existence by talking shit about it on Yea Forums holy shit
i just think he's obnoxious. that's all
fucking relax

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>consider that trans people aren't a danger to others
they are to themselves.
>Except pedophilia is a fetish and mental disorder
i 100% agree but so is trans since its not something nature does naturally unless its parasite or something fucked up
>including trans characters in kids shows is a good way to lessen the adverse effects of people who were already going to experience gender dysphoria
problem is it's being controlled by idiots.
LGBT stuff in shows is always about their sexuality and not anything else. I understand its not bad and agree the times have changed, but when you tell me a man who has the DNA and chromosomes of a man is a woman, tell me i have to always call him she, expect myself to take the surgery they take as something amazing with its just an open cis infected cut and have idiots controlling everything then you will have me laughing at you.
I stop taking everything seriously when a bunch of people passed a law that made it ok for HIV infected people to not have to tell you they have the virus, expect no punishment from it and parade it outside in daylight.

you kinda remind me of this guy
youtube.com/watch?v=eTdgHsifK38

Not yet, just clips

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Faggotry is a well documented peeve of this site gaylord.

I've been fapping to gay shit with little to no whining in the threads longer than you've been able to use the internet, fag.
>there are still electionfags that think Yea Forums was created in 2014

I’m not gay, but watching twinks get abused makes my fucking dick hard.

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I support you abusefag, I am the same way, but I don't have any fanarts of it sadly

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>a man being effeminate is just as bad as someone raping children or killing and eating other humans

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>I'm not gay, but I frequently engage in homosexual activity

Its amazing how people on Yea Forums are triggered by gay shit

Hey I said I wasn’t gay, but I never said I was straight either.

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That was just the romans and greeks and they also made western/middle eastern society stop being bronze age garbage

>1800-1900
>generation

Um.

do you think his butt is as fluffy as his chest ahah

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i want to abuse that spider

I don't know why I ever thought this thread was going to be about Hazbin Hotel.

I wonder if his face is soft as well, when I even out his eyes.

there's still time to salvage it

Losing your job because you yelled out "TRAPS ARE GAY YOU FAGGOT" while handing a customer his chicken wings didn't happen because you're oppressed for hating traps. It happened because you're an autist with no self control.

>This whole thread
All I have to say is this:

God's not real

Gay's are valid

It's okay for men to be feminine

Traditional gender roles are outdated shit that need to die

Kids learning about different sexualities is a good thing

I don't know about God not being real but the rest is good

>335 replies
>104 posters

and what about it?

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Tribalism and culture war has taken root on this website ever since 2016 and this show has become a target of it
Let the Timmies wail, I say

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I think you might be exaggerating, but all this twink fad shit is really annoying and creepy since it all comes from fujoshits. It's not even Bishonen shit, is straight up twinks.

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Gee, it's almost like gay dudes are people with a broad range of preferences. God, it'd be even worse if men were attracted to tomboys or fit women. That would be so fucking gay.

it is gay

>Anything positive
Sir Pentious is cute.

You're all pretty fucking juvenile and deserve no remorse for your bullying that you bring upon yourself.

>God's not real
No one care fedoracuck?
>Gay's are valid
Sure.
>It's okay for men to be feminine
Sure.
>Traditional gender roles are outdated shit that need to die
No, kill yourself.
>Kids learning about different sexualities is a good thing
No, double nigger kill yourself.

LOOK MOM, IM IN THE SCREENSHOT

>hurr hurr kill yourself violence blood kill kill suicide kill
>but i support traditional gender roles

Yes, now please kill yourself.

>>hurr hurr kill yourself violence blood kill kill suicide kill
Babyspeak? You aren't helping yourself and this is embarrassing.

You're right.

user has a point. Feminine men should not be the norm. It sure as hell won't make women feel safe to be with you. Hope you enjoy being a cuck, or just gay.

akay. thanks fren

>350 replies
Oh shit niggers what are you doing

Faggot.

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I agree with you but what a really crappy thread.

Based truth

>Traditional gender roles are outdated shit that need to die
But why? Also have you considered the consequences of abandoning these traditional gender roles, what is the cost going to be? Also these traditional gender roles are outdated compared to what? And do you have any hard evidence that abandoning these traditional values would make our society overall better?

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>she

I've got some news for you....

Welp, Angel’s dead.

This does quite question my own sexuality.

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this is the most grandpa post i have seen in a while i love it, based and redpilled

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The only wise man in this thread

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of course an Ex-Aid fan would say this

when did Yea Forums become this gay and reddit
i expect that kind of reply from a 15 year old

Culture war and samefagging
Because clearly a show about Hell is trying to tell people how to live their lives

I thought this was a female in op’s pic though?
I’m more pissed how the bondage is the shitty chained all the way around

>including trans characters in kids shows is a good way to lessen the adverse effects of people who were already going to experience gender dysphoria
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Do..Do White Cis Males even exist in SparkledogFurville? What is even the point of including that? Do humans even exist?

>if it’s not a outlawed, it’s not bad and vice versa
Enjoying the bitter taste of that boot leather?

>stamper is in this
No objections here

>God's not real

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Transsexualism has an inherent sexual silver lining. Prove me wrong. An adult liking things associated with or just identifying as the opposite sex in a purely platonic manner seems very hard to believe.

why are people praising this fuck when i've been saying this shit for 10 years IN PUBLIC.

shame those fucks, shame them all. it hurts like 3rd degree burns to them when you say to everyone how much of a FAGGOT they are.

and yes, in the 80s, we would have beaten the SHIT outta you. this era would be a goddamn funfair for highschoolers from the 80s.

holy shit is that that lego flash game

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fag hags have been a thing since before the invention of electricity. there will always be women more attracted to feminine men than masculine men, same as there will always be men more attracted to masculine women than feminine women, and women more attracted to masculine women than masculine men, and every other conceivable combination

there;s more to a man than his sexualness
there's more to a woman than her sexualness
quid pro quo there's more to identifying as a man or woman than your sexualness
for it to be impossible to identify as the opposite gender in a purely platonic manner is to argue that its impossible to identify as the same gender in a purely platonic manner

If God's not real then objective meaning is non-existent, morality is relative, and there's no such thing as any valid sexuality. In order for any of your other statements to be true you'd have to presuppose the existence of God. Without that it's all just baseless symbolism that you fabricate in order to validate your world view. The statement that gays are invalid becomes just as true and meaningful as gays are valid.

>all this samefagging about morality in a thread about a web cartoon on one of the most degenerate boards on Yea Forums
This is why every other board laughs at you fags.

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Where's this picture actually from? I don't recall any Hazbin YouTube video with this in it.

Also who is Stamper and why do people care about him? I see he's the VA for a different character, but I don't get why that matters.

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in the trailer for a split second

“They hated him because he spoke the truth”

This is the most based response I’ve seen and truly represents everything wrong with this world!

You have big persecution complex.

Who doesn't these days?

they were with us from the beginning user
and together we'll go to the stars

>looking increasingly vulnerable and girly
>looking increasingly cute
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Sure homosexuality and travenstitism are thingd that didn't happen becere the 80s.
The greeks and the romans would like a word with you. So would Ganymede and all the other twinks in history and mithology.
I'd day read a book and learn some history but you probably only watch Fox news 24/7

That's just not true.

>without religion there is no morality
Christbabby's first internet argument? Yes, user, there can still be morality without religion because of things like empathy and the golden rule. If the only reason you don't treat other people like shit is the threat of eternal punishment hanging over you, you are a psychopath.

>le greeks and romans
you forgot to mention that being homosexual was an undesirable thing to be if you were considered "the woman" of the item.
the greeks and romans also respected the gender roles of society, if you're going to go by that tangent.

Don't forget all the older religions with gods of war and shit still treated each other fairly well and weren't in a constant state of anarchy.

Whether god exists or not is irrelevant, and gays are valid so long as they're productive members of society same as anyone else, everything else you said is false.

When the barbarians come for you, as they always go after the degenerates, i want you to know it's your fault. Next time stand outside the building before detonating the demolition charges.

that wasn't his point
what he was trying to say is that without adhering to a higher power morality is subjective

But it's already subjective even amongst people who do believe in a higher power, especially on the issue of gays. Some Christians think they're going to Hell and are corrupting the world and some would probably be fine with stoning them to death if it were legal. Other Christians are fine with them.

>There can still be morality without religion

Not objective morality. Everything you believe in is fabricated and the only motivation for any of your actions is the constant subconscious fear of death. So you use hero symbolism and symbolic immortality to cope with your death anxiety.

>Empathy

Empathy is not objective either. It's not intrinsic, it's not necessary for thought, and it has no cosmic significance. People don't choose to be empathetic because all of your actions are pre-programmed and free will is an illusion.

If there's no God then all morality is a human invention and empathy is just incidental and we could've easily evolved to be non-empathetic. People can't choose whether or not to feel empathy so on what grounds can you judge whether a person is moral or immoral based solely on empathy?

>You are a psychopath

There's nothing wrong with being a psychopath because objective morality is a lie and there's no way to choose your personality traits or the degree to which you feel empathy.

>Some Christians think they're going to Hell and are corrupting the world and some would probably be fine with stoning them to death if it were legal. Other Christians are fine with them.

So because there is discrepancy then that invalidates what he says despite the fact that there is no equal divide.

>Some would probably be fine with stoning them to death

Is that a majority or a minority of them?

The only reason you argue in favor of empathy and the golden rule is because it makes your life easier when other people believe in it. It gives you the most biological advantage for others to believe in it so of course you'd try to convince others to believe in it. Everything you do is motivated by selfishness and there is no such thing as pure altruism.

Why you don't support an actual good and ongoing Yea Forums online series?
pic related

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So basically the run down of this sissy spider twink is

>Hes a power bottom
>He is very very gay
>He fucks for money
>He is a spider

Is that him basically?

Am I missing anything?

Cause thats a pretty boring character

This 100%

>drug addict
>alcoholic
>intimacy issues
>daddy issues
>male broken bird

He's an itemized list of crass Fujoshi-bait tropes

So basically the modern day trashy Homosexual

>Empathy is not objective
It's a hell of a lot closer to a universal truth than the "objective" morality all religions claim to know but disagree on what it actually is. Most people feel badly for other people who are suffering and don't want to cause it, because they don't like suffering themselves and know what it feels like. You're right, it evolved because it enabled our survival as a species. True there are psychopaths, but there are also pedophiles and we don't say it's fine for them to fuck kids because that would infringe the kids' rights, just as it would be better not to allow psychopaths to make others suffer for their benefit. I think that's a fairly universally agreed idea of morality which is not based on religion.

Yes? I don't claim it to be objective truth but it improves everybody's lives when people make a concious choice not to treat each other like shit, not just your own. I have to go now so I won't be replying again, but I think I've said all I want to say anyway.

What is that? Reverse image search isn't working

>smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=179527
and now with 0% Political themes, just for you!

This but the exact opposite of everything listed

>It's a hell of a lot closer to a universal truth than the "objective" morality all religions claim to know but disagree on what it actually is.

It is not. If there is no God or inherent meaning in the world then it's equally as objective and meaningful as anything else.

>You're right, it evolved because it enabled our survival as a species

It did not. It evolved out of complete randomness. We could have just as easily evolved in a completely different way in which empathy was completely unnecessary.

>but there are also pedophiles and we don't say it's fine for them to fuck kids because that would infringe the kids' rights

If there's no God then there's also no such thing as rights. They're human fabrications and they have no meaning. Your argument is an emotional/manipulative one because it relies on the presupposed idea of pedophilia being wrong. You shame people into agreement by appealing to morality but really it's only the threat of social ostracization. There's no such thing as free will. A man raping a child is not someone consciously deciding to do anything, it's just another physical event like a tree being bent by the wind.

>I think that's a fairly universally agreed idea of morality which is not based on religion.

Is that what you choose to base it on? Majority opinion? Fairly universally? What the fuck is that? That's a meaningless phrase. It's either universal or it's not, there aren't degrees to it.

Your justification of your morality is based completely on self-delusion and if there's no God then it's only as valid as literally any other thing you could ever think of.

>I think that's a fairly universally agreed idea of morality which is not based on religion.

You're saying this because it physically benefits you to say it. Logically, there's no reason why you shouldn't say it and just not believe in it. It's advantageous to convince other people to be 'moral' while continuing to do anything you want.

A better question for someone like you would be

Do you think you should hurt other people?

I mean I dont believe in anything, and I sure as hell have empathy.

One theory is humans have such high empathy to hunt better. More or less thinking like the animal you're hunting and using to predict their movement's and places they might be. That empathy also might gave helped ancient humans pair with wolves too.

You believe you have empathy. If everything is material then your consciousness is just an illusion. It's a byproduct of physical, reducible actions. The fact that you have empathy is also completely incidental and if you were incidentally born without it then you wouldn't care.

Would it be biologically advantageous to me if I did? Would it release the chemicals that make superficially feel good? Objectively, there is no 'should' because everything ends the same. Whether or not I do or don't hurt someone doesn't matter because there are no permanent effects of any kind. The end result is identical no matter what.

My point is that men might actually be better at raising kids at home than women are.

>Men aren't supposed to be feminine.
lmao someone tell him about the ottoman empire

How the fuck does any of this have to do with the stupid demon twink slut?

>muh morality
t.spooks

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WE GOTTA MURDER ALL THE NIHILIST BEFORE THEY KILL US!

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Every point is wrong

Come get some

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They can’t even stop shitposting think they gonna get off their asses and do something?

Fcuk, with the amount if replies this got, I though he had quints or something.

Are you sure about that?

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It doesn’t. Yea Forums is just being stupid as expected.

Yes

You should consider actually reading Nietzsche. Describing something and subscribing are not the same thing.

>s

Listen to him, you are not really real user, philosophy just proved it

Yeah user you captured exactly why I love that pic, I want to abuse and dominate the feminine spiderboy

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they don't, tho. every gay guy i know likes aniki types. traps and sissies are straight man fetishes

i know. i was just memeing

Try telling that to you mentally ill neighbors tom. I'm sure they'll agree wholeheartedly.

If vivzie decides to give angel dust an unrequited crush I'll be so happy, a lot of suffering potential. I would also like to see him cry or blush eventually

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>It's a cartoon geared towards kids
What the fuck do your kids watch?

>concerned parent on Yea Forums
How are this many people taking the bait

I’m into bondage but even I don’t like this

>It's publicly available and shared where kids can see it and it's stylized to be appealing for children.

You can say that about a lot of things just by walking out the door into the real world. If you want to coddle your kids and shelter them, be my guest, but don't ruin it for the ones who had no say in producing your spawn

Not him but no mater how you twist it, he's right.

Her shit's on YouTube, there is no "parental advise required" ergo, it's in reach to the first children that come ... this and all the fucking bullshit LGBT vermins try to expose childrens to, is not controled in any way or form so your gay fucking homopedo/Dragshit and all the fucking cancer clown that deserve to die in a fire can actually reach to little billy without mom and dad even knowing about it.

i wanna fuck angel dust

So what? What makes personal pleasure better than helping other people? If everything is so thoroughly irrelevant, what makes your own personal satisfaction superior to anyone elses other than your own personal biases? If morality and reason and every single other perception we have are internally defined, that includes your own definitions as well. Your thoroughly unexamined version of 'enlightened self interest' is no better or worse than any other system, because there IS no better or worse by your own admission.

If there is nothing in this universe than what we are and what we do, then there is no more reason to be callous than there is to be altruistic. No more honesty in theft and tyranny than in giving and community. All you describe is a desire to be selfish, and even if that is the 'real' expression of life, that realness is, by your own definitions, no more important than a facsimile of compassion.

Also

>everything is material
>consciousness is an illusion
>byproduct of physical, reducible actions
>your consciousness is a real thing created by other real things, but is also not real

Shut the fuck up.

Maybe children shouldn't be on YouTube then

All correct. Either God exists and there is objecting meaning and reason to the universe or all of these things are true. This is not an argument for or against anything. It's only an observation.

So talk to your fucking kids. Be a part of their life. Tell them what you think is right and wrong, explain your reasons, and answer their questions. Kids are naturally inquisitive, and they naturally seek to engage. Respond in kind. If you feel the need to restrict their computer use, do so. It's an undeniable fact that social media is literally designed to abuse instinctual human responses, and no one is more vulnerable to that than children. I honestly don't think most kids under 14 or so need a smart phone (hell, no one NEEDS a smart phone) and would benefit from regular face-to-face interaction with their peers and the adults in their life a great deal.

As a species, I think we need to engage with the people around us a lot more than we do. This isn't a byproduct of Them Kids Havin Phones or anything, it's just something we're bad at in general. We've been bad at it for our entire existence, and we're only getting worse.

Interesting that you think fags should have more room and rights then childrens.

I think it's not children that shouldn't be on YouTube, it's LGBT activists that shouldn't be on earth.

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Fair. I'm just violently frustrated by the 'nothing matters so it is my moral imperative to be a piece of shit' argument, because it's so poorly considered and transparently weak.

>Just talk to your kid bra
>Be the change n shit
get fucked with your self introspection bullshit, "Talking to your kid" won't make this gay shit stop from being IMPOSED on everyone through TV, games and all other sort of social media there is, you can tell little billy all there is to know about this "progressive and tolerant" cancer, it won't stop his 30 little friends who's parents don't give a shit about what they consume to keep consuming this degradating content.

You are one of those few sane persons that are on this site, hell what im saying, on the internet.

Based

why do you care?

most based post on this site this year

lol ges ur fuked m8

It's a recurring indicator of late-stage civilizations. Hard times ahead.
youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ

It's a fucking Youtube series you dumb cunt, you're acting like it's a Marvel movie in production

please just give me a cute feminine bf
not a tranny or some fag that thinks he's a girl
just a cute fembf

What is spider penis like?

boxing gloves
the males store semen in their palps which have sort of boxing glove look to them compared to famale's palps

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So this twink may not have an actual penis?

he is a human that turned into a demon so who knows how much has changed

sexy

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Way to spit on Roam, Athens, ancient Egypt, China, Persia, Japan and just about evey civilization that has or ever will exist.
Go be a snowflake elsewhere and let me self interest as bloody good looking sissy in peace, you self hating in the closet tosser.