Why do you hate CalArts so much, anons ?

Why do you hate CalArts so much, anons ?
Its the future of 2d Animation

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because it's lazy, uninspired, cheap, awful and goes against everything a cartoon should be, which is art

Because Yea Forums told me to hate it

Because it's been the institution that most major animators have come from for decades

>the future of 2d Animation

> generic CalArts thread
> OP's image isn't even CalArts

into the trash, etc. etc.

That's like asking "Why do you hate fast food?"

It's just people hating the current animation trend. People are going to hate whatever cartoons come out in the future regardless of what it looks like

>future of 2D
I give it a few years, before the Zoomer animators of the 2020s will come and probably create a new counter culture of animation, which will be shit on by the millenials.

Just like how Millenial animators get shit on by Generation X, and Gen X animators got shit on by the Boomers.

The cycle never ends

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i recognize that....

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Stop looking at me like that.

isnt calarts just a term meaning not ren and stimpy?

This better not be cropped porn, young man.

Sauce me on this pic then I'll tell you why

It's too homogenized; too much looks too similar. I get tired of it quickly.

i'm indifferent to it at best...but you gotta admit all of these shows as of late look samey with exceptions.


cartoons will forever be for children horn dog

/thread

It was used on Iron Giant iirc, then people then used it on shows like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. Now, people just apply it to everything

Because people who go to art school aren't enthusiasts, they're rich kids who were only good at drawing so they made that their career

It's made to cut as many corners as possible and raising generations of artists who produce lifeless cold commercial garbage and nothing inspired.

Where do you think you are?

I know it's barbara but which artist?

dm I found it, it's Miscon twitter.com/Miscontoon/status/1061822450193772544

>sharp edges
>no thick lines
>too many details
failing at calarts from all the things...

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Calarts doesn't use thick lines

I miss the old CalArt threads we used to have.

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you have to go back
back to the past

Cause its used in so many cartoons and cartoons 2011 and back actually had different designs that were unique. Yes there are a few shows today that arnt calarts meme designs but the majority big popular shows are and that encourages future shows to follow in its path.

Same. And when they're made now they don't have the same energy. Thundercats roar made for some fun threads

I believe that was made in a calarts thread where everyone was drawing things in a calarts style to make fun of it. It was during the whole thundercats fiasco.

>Calarts - future of 2d Animation

Thank god I didn't sell my soul to a TV network, because they don't want shows with quality or good looking and unique characters anymore. I'm going to be an indie animator and start my own animation production company, and I will show you scumbags what real cartoons look like. Not this cheap, simplistic looking bean-faced worm-mouthed garbage that's plagued television and internet animation. I will show you motherfucking quality.

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seconded

Bullshit I don't think 90s animators who worked for movies, Saban cartoons, DC and Warner Brothers cartoons ever attended California's meme college. Cal Arts was exclusively a shitty meme college for Cartoon network.

Most animators i've spoken to will tell you the animation matters more than the artwork.

Cartoons were originally for adults. Disney is the reason people think they're for kids.

The 60s and 70s animators cannot shit on the 90s and 2000s animators, not even the 80s animators.
60s and 70s were pure unadultered garbage just like the xx10s

Then speak to the animators who are naturally humble and honest enough to tell you that the artwork matters more.
Because French and Japan animators sure as fuck will tell you that.

pretty much this

Calarts threads were comfy

No not this, anything but that. 2010s are objectively bad for any domain, not just animation.
The fucking 40s and 90s would shake hands together while looking at the malformed mentally il beasts that are the 70s and 2010s.

As someone who doens't draw, doesn't watch cartoons too much, and don't consider myself as a big cartoon critic, I'd say I don't have a big problem with calArts if not for the fact it's being used where it should not be.
in shows like Gumball, WBB, and OKKO(which, from watch I watched, are good enough), it makes sense to use calArts because the show is trying it's best to look "cute" while also having most of it's production focus being it's actual writing of jokes and characters instead of its animation, meanwhile, cartoons like Thundercats and Teen Titans should use a more sophisticated artstyle in order to conform to the fact that it's also portraying action and detail in character expression and scenes. I'm not saying it's impossible to do these in calArts, I'm just saying it's BETTER to not do it in it, specially when animation quality is one of the selling points of the show(action cartoons should, at least by my opinion, sell themselves on the quality of the action they present before anything else).

so, really, I just think they're simply shoving it into where it shoudn't be.

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>from watch I watched
from what I watched.

god I hate ADHD

>the decadent collapse of animation is the future of animation
based retard

SAMURAI JACK

I want to do this, just can't animate for shit. Show 'em your war face user!

Indian Youtube animation is the future. Johny Johny will be bigger than SpongeBob ever was, and CalArts will be dead by 2030.

Is that Barbara from Little Witch Academia?

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>Zoomers enter animation industry
>Cartoons are drawn with a bunch of sharp edges, with no immediately visible curves whatsoever
>Coolly colored pallets are used instead of pastel shit
>Plots are well written and aren't injected with political bullshit
>Action cartoons make a come back
If that's the future, then I'm looking forward to it.

I'm a zoomer developing some animated movie/show concepts and all of my ideas are ideologically charged as fuck.

The issue isn't ideology; it's taking retarded milquetoast bullshit like the easily-censorable lesbians in Steven Universe and then pretending that that actually means anything.

What about everything else I listed?

don't make me dump my entire calarts edits folder in this thread

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this

the day Thundercats Roar was announced it was the most fun time I ever had in this board even though it was fueled by sheer anger

>futa
Every fucking time.

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I can't stand soft Calarts shit but I don't know if overly-pointy shit wouldn't be much better. Newer cartoons/projects seem to be getting more of a good mix.

I've got this theory that Adventure Time's success and influence is at least in part linked to the 2008 Recession. Nick and Disney were more or less able to coast through this time off of the popularity of iCarly/Hannah Montana/etc tween sitcoms and didn't need to revolutionize animation, but CN Real failed hard and the network was likely looking for something that was both cheap to animate and not more of the same old same old. When Adventure Time not only filled those requirements but went on to become somewhat of a cultural phenomenon, it made total sense to greenlight more shows using similarly fluid/round animation.

Hey man, just start. Invest some time into practicing.

I know, right?

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Girl with dick + girl with vagina = good
Girl with dick + girl with dick = disgusting

CalArts? More like Sal, I've got the farts.
BBRAAAAAAAP.

LWA season 2 when?

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Never. Its considered a failure in japan

Thanks, I had a sneaking suspicion it was LWA, but Ursula instead some rando background character

Even in CalArts, Akko is the cutest.

If nothing gets announced after Promare then never ever

I don't hate it, made by the right hands every entreteirment can be enjoyable

It fucking bombed in Nippon dude. Season 2 never.

Who is this semen demon?

It only used to save money. It very much deserving of the negative criticism it receives. Ironically, adult swim shows like aqua teen hunger force, space ghost, sealab 2021 and squidbillies are some of my most favorite shows ever made and they have notoriously low animation due to having low budgets.

Worst part is if you want to make something more adult then you literally have nowhere to monetize it so you better be working a 2nd job/be millionaire.

>upload to youtube
>age restricted
>video makes no money, is not recommended by algorithm
great

You could host the videos on your own website, and bypass youtube, but then you'd be responsible for site maintenance, and you'd be entirely on your own regarding getting your name out there.

The blandest girl of the main cast. Here's an actual semen demon

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It genuinely pisses me off how little Yea Forums knows about animation, and it pisses me off even more that said mongoloids think they know what's best for an industry they know less than nothing about

Democracy was a mistake. It gave plebs the idea that they should have a say in literally everything, even things they know jack shit about

>Japanese animators
>Humble
HA

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Im not a fag like you, sorry.

>Cartoons are drawn with a bunch of sharp edges, with no immediately visible curves whatsoever
Yes, definitely. Zoomer toonfags fucking love their angles
>Coolly colored pallets are used instead of pastel shit
Doubt it. First of all, only star vs and SU use pastels, and SU is fucking packed with cold colors. Most cartoons now are colored the exact same way they were back in the 2000s
>Plots are well written and aren't injected with political bullshit
Nobody chooses to write bad user. But I can definitely see the latter happening. A big part of 90s cartoons was to deliberately avoid the morals that 80s cartoons were required by law to teach, and it carried over to the 2000s
>Action cartoons make a come back
Nope. Action cartoons that aren't AtLA are very unpopular with zoomers outside of Yea Forums. They grew up on anime, so most of the kids who were into action were also weebs who couldn't give less of a shit about western animation

I personally predict that the cartoons of next decade are going to be like hasbin hotel and villanos

Literally no one visits websites anymore that aren't the mainstream big sites, and you cant convince people to do it (and many don't even know domains exist). It's just "apps" now and whats in them.

There's always what some people do, host the "safe" stuff that won't piss off the powers that be on youtube, and then continuously provide links to your website.

Can you name a single animator that does this and has any success? Just one.

Okay, I'll admit the youtuber I'm thinking of in particular is a political commentator, not an animator.

>politicals

Yeah that kind of click baity dogshit is still hot shit since youtube is trying to filter.

But as far as animation... there are none that you speak off. Hell, most animation patreons dont even break a 1000 dollars despite the quality cause the core audience is still kids who all have ADHD and are unwilling to wait more than a day for a new anything and will only donate to twitch streamers who say their name.

Rooster Teeth does that

I actually don't hate CalArts style. I honestly find the secondary seething over it to be far more obnoxious. It's an animation trend of the current era. In about 5 years, it'll be different in some other degree, based on any new iconic show that comes out at the time. Success is imitated.
There are legitimate criticisms in the industry baked into the complaints about the "CalArts style" but most of the shit that fill threads up revolve around everyone circle jerking over it being "lazy" or "soulless", which is hardly an original complaint after the 100th guy says it.
Some animation industry person actually made good points regarding this on her blog a few years back. I'd also add that a lot of the industry reaction is also annoying but for different reasons entirely.

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how the hell do i save images on twitter the fuck is this
right click doesn't bring up save image

>getting into debt over a completely useless degree
Surely they could just suck a couple of dicks and make the same connections they're paying for at Calarts? Being able to draw hasn't been a requirement for decades, and they sure as fuck don't come out the other end any better than they began. Actually, many probably come out worse after attending that drone academy.

>rcdarts is every calarts student

The only good comment here on CalArts I've seen here, if not in forever. Based wholeheartedly.

More based fuckers right here.

Yeah... That counterculture can't come soon enough, vicious cycle that it otherwise is. Just don't expect it to from just TV, let alone from it at all, though.

It's like many actually smart people have said besides yourself, user: if it's not that these things come in cycles, it's that the people doing the whining about this are either fucking weebs or simply put, complete idiots. There's no other explanation to think of here...

>CalArts Style

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Because the art style is lazy.

The penis makes it better

it sucks up any prospective talent in the burger animation industry and burdens them with exorbitant student loans that force them to waste their golden years slaving under out-of-touch networks paying it off

The previous decade had the Tartakovsky/Hartman style and none of you bitched about it
Johnny Test clawhands!

The difference is that the late 90s to early-mid 2000s had that the popular shows had more variety in their art styles.

You had the Tartakovsky/McCracken/Hartman style, but also the styles of Murray, Hillenburg, Bartlett, Klasky Csupo, Antonucci, Dilworth, Warburton, Renzetti and Davis.

Now, most cartoons do look the same.

I hate that I have to go to Canada to study so I don’t have to take out essentially a mortgage just to go to school even though I’ve always wanted to go to there.

Until Dittfach gets her Hollywood dream job, then her lazy shit will be the new easy-to-make, easy-to-sell art style that mainstream animation consumers will accept, despite being to animation what scented oils are to medicine.

Delet dis
Making me feel sick

99% of LWA fanbase are westernshit so it deserved the calarts treatment

Not to mention that many animators , Tartakovsky included, experimented with animation and styles. Look at Dexters Lab, Samurai Jack, and Sym-biotic Titan, they’re more different than lots of the calarts style shows from different creators.

Source of this pic?

>Who is this semen demon?

Hannah. Her friend is named Barbara. Get it? GET IT!?!?

And their third friend is called Avery.
And the main villain uses three dimensional magitech objects.
And the most powerful witches are known as the Nine Old Witches.

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