Why is this character so hated? Is it sexism?
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Yes
She’s boring.
Kamala’s Better.
she would be just as soulles if she was a man
At this point it's pushback for Marvel and fairweather readers saying she's the most popular and loved character despite the fact that it came out of nowhere and her books sell like shit.
I liked Carol as Ms.Marvel just fine. Everything about nu-Carol screams "trying too hard". Since her Captain Marvel rebranding, it's been so obvious Marvel was trying to change the character up so much to appeal to the masses in anticipation of a future movie.
Her outfit exists because they dont want their "Wonder Woman" to show any skin or else they'll be accused of sexism. They cut her hair so she'll look more masculine and appeal to boys. She had to go from "Ms." to "Captain" to appeal to male audiences. Her ultra feminist gimmick is to show the world they have a feminist character. Carol losing her memories in KSD's bullshit was meant to erase the stupid rape storyline.
The character is too manufactured to be likeable and yet they wont let her go. Spectrum and Kamala are much more interesting characters with cooler powers but you wanna know why they wont get the push Carol does? It's because they're not white women. White women need to be the face of feminism and it baffles me that nobody in the mainstream media has called this out.
In short: Carol was perfect in EMH.
This is applying 2019 logic to changes that happened long before that.
>Ka"u need 2 do dis 4 me or ill tell every1 ur frind is GAY"mala
>Actually trying to associate her with being good
k
Suddenly overhauled and pushed as the most important and powerful female in the Marvel universe just because the MCU didn't have F4 and X-Men rights at the time.
Some people hate her because of sexism, which is stupid. Other people hate her because she is poorly written or uninteresting, which are legitimate reasons.
Detaining people with no due process for future crimes they didn't commit based on ultimately faulty premonitions doesn't help.
All of this started in 2012. Everything done to Carol since then was an attempt to make her perfect for her future movie.
Yeah it is true guise, who could do sucha evil thing. Just listen to me i am a futurist
I know it because of science, i would explain it to you but you wouldnt get it because i am too smart and a futurist
nah people were talking about that shit since the rebranding. To be fair and I think it's just as bad Kelly didn't erase her memories to take out just the rape storyline she did to write her however she wanted.
Hell Illuminated comics started pointing this out way back when. The reason for the 2019 logic is well this how do you think we got here with her? We saw it happen. To act like it was not a thing in the past just because of a different year it dumb.
To further add on to my point. Imagine if Marvel did the same thing to Black Panther.
>New colorful outfit
>New design to make T'Challa more ambiguously ethnic instead of African
>Changed his name to KING Panther
>Wakanda is now a multicultural utopia
>Every Black Panther book slowly retcons and erases everything before about the BP franchise
>Black Panther is no longer a black power fantasy but instead, a vehicle to promote multiculturalism to appeal to different markets across the world
Wouldn't the the most boring thing ever? Wouldn't that take any edge and debate away from the character? Woudn't that feel very manufactured and "safe"? That is Captain Marvel.
Carol is that kid at the birthday party that wasn't invited and nobody likes, but the parents tell everyone they have to be nice to her or they'll get in trouble.
She is a roastie's power fantasy. Only without any redeeming qualities like Superman.
>The character is too manufactured to be likeable and yet they wont let her go.
honestly this, i thought she was okay in the busiek comics where she was struggling with alcoholism but everything about her in 2019 feels whitewashed and bland
She isn't, she's the best. Only sexists and incels dislike her and they are such a tiny minority they can be ignored.
Pushback to the massive push Marvel started giving her a few weeks ago.
Though I expect her fans going into shit posting overdrive the last few weeks haven't helped people grow fond of her.
>a few weeks ago.
I meant a few years ago
I don't like her because it feels as though Marvel is saying I HAVE to like her, and I really don't. I don't like her origin story, her generic power set or her personality, and yet I feel as though she's being pushed as hard as Spider-Man these days and I just don't enjoy her as a character.
If you know the character you know the reasons. If you don't know the character you should shut the fuck up before asking stupid shit, then take time to read her recent stories.
No personality
Pushed to hell and back
But what else would you expect from a character designed by a bunch of executives?
>few weeks ago
Marvel has been shoving her down our throats since AvX, where they dug up Mar-vell's corpse JUST to have him say it was alright for her to take his title, and kill him off an issue later.
Literally just one post down, user
>Want to make a video explaining why Captain Marvel is a shit character from someone who reads comics
>know it will get turned into a political shitfest from others
Her rape comic is the only iconic comic she has other than the one where she gets Rogued. Her stint during the first Marvel Civil War turned people off to her aside from a niche who grew to love the bitchy murder Carol. That niche got shat on by Marvel after she became Captain Marvel. Currently, the only fans of her are cosplayers who like her new costume, zombies who like anything MCU related and SJWs desperate for MCU female representation no matter how shitty.
Her comics aren't hated, it's just that nobody cares about her. Her character in the films is hated cause she's gonna get everything what was important from Avengers just like The last Jedi, a grave case of Mary Sue. She's just like that the most powerful character, a new character appeared to continue the saga cause Disney is greedy
She is a mediocre character that has to rely on her male equivalent to gain a good backstory. 0 good stories but you have to love her otherwise you are a mysoginist and she is in charge of everything now.
X-men females are the best marvel has. Cap marvel is generic especially carol
SEETHING incels
Shes the most forced character in recent time.
She's not very interesting and instead of remedying this with good stories focused on showing instead of telling, they just keep pushing the notion that she's really important and iconic despite the fact that she never does anything of note.
She's not drunk anymore.
I don't hate her. She is just written badly these days.
Fuck Carol Lives
>so hated
>made a billion
Yeah Yea Forums and DCuck's opinions are worth less than dog shit, don't bother.
i asked some "carolfags" how they felt about that abrupt character change that happened w carol.
asked them whether they thought it was cheap, whether they liked it, etc.
none of them knew what i was talking about at all. they literally have no clue and know absolutely nothing, but they assume carol has been like this the entire time and dont even care to find out about their *favorite*
complete shallow idiots. i dont even bother w these "fans"
Nice.
Disney bought it's own movie tickets. So many ghost screenings.
>drinking semen and eating money
Seems legit.
not just be nice to her. pretend shes a princess and a badass too or else there'll be tantrums bc her and her "parents" have legit lost their fucking minds
Yes cause people won't watch anything with explosions and frequently aired tv spots, where they can turn of their brains and eat super unhealthy "food", nope we live in a world where the best entertainment is a good book, and a glass of water.
People will watch anything user, it's why we've had to suffer through a dozen Saw movies, countless Final Destinations, a crap load of Adam Sandler abortions, and a Roland Emmerich disaster movie every other year.
no
Actually theater owner here, this happened for Aquaman, not Captain Marvel.
Easiest money i got in my life, didn't even had to run the movie because no one showed up.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
i mean there are people who have seen Aquaman so probably there is some truth in there.
The only people who like her are the dyke shippers, who dont even actually like her. They just like the idea of her being a lesbian and only a lesbian.
Carol has nothing going for her that isnt already being done better by someone else. She's never leaving Rogue's shadow.
girls and bitchy dudes dont know how to be likeable. they think people like cool guys bc they aggressively push their coolness on you or bc theyre assholes and people enjoy that. the way they write their characters is really what they think greatness and coolness and likeability looks like. its hilarious
this. they shafted anyone who actually liked her for this empty plastic. murder bitch recovering alcoholic carol was a real character w a uniqueness and a story she was working through.
>They cut her hair so she'll look more masculine and appeal to boys. She had to go from "Ms." to "Captain" to appeal to male audiences
They really, really don't know what male audiences want, then.
Because grown ass men (barring onion men) and teenage boys want to look at attractive women.
And I can't speak for all little boys, but when I was a kid, all of my crushes were attractive women 10 to 20 years older than myself. I popped so many boners around my Mom's friends it wasn't even funny, my favorite part of every Bond movie ended up being the bond girl, and I religiously watched the latter seasons of Boy Meets World because even at the age of 9, I was obsessed with Topanga and I had no idea why until I hit puberty.
I'd say little boys are also more partial to pretty girls based on my own experiences.
Actual Fandango employee here. Our president used to be a Disney executive and we were ordered to adjust our ticket sale numbers to inflate Captain Marvel's sales. We also run a movie review site and had to do multiple revamps to the site to hide all the negative hype the movie was getting.
My uncle works at Nintendo and he says cinemas don't even exist anymore, it's all a giant money-laundering operation.
>They cut her hair so she'll look more masculine and appeal to boys.
The fuck are you on about.
I think it's because of her name too. They can try to pretend Marvel = Marvel the company so they can say she was always supposed to be super important
Wat?
Everyone knows real men understand the universal fact that short hair>long hair.
Actual movie theater here. I miss the days before Captain Marvel when my tight little screening rooms were packed so full that I could barely contain myself. I can't wait for those Shazam audiences. I can practically feel my floors getting sticky with their spilled snacks already.
Probably some Twitter meme.
Actual movie here. Just you pricks wait till I hit the screen and I BTFO out of all of you shits.
How short are we talking here. This is the shortest I would go for.
It's not hate, it's utter indifference. The hate is directed at Marvel and others trying so hard to shill a character literally no one outside of Tumblr whales who don't even buy or read comics cares about.
Movie Carol is an actual character, in all fairness
She’s bland. Here’s your (you). I bet you got no likes yesterday.
Rode the hype for Endgame. Would have made Antman and The Wasp if it had come out sooner or later.
It depends on the woman actually. Short hair might turn one woman into a semen demon, on another it might be terrible.
>Implying you aren't some Yea Forums fag yourself starting trouble
Kamala boring as shit. Her solo under wilson carried by the side characters and background gags. Kamala herself was uninteresting especially when he superhero fan stuff was toned down to just being a Carol fan.
yes, sexism against men. Making the white man the enemy and primary antagonist.
>Her solo under wilson
Wait, is it under someone else nowadays?
Monica will never get a push but Kamala has been getting a Carol tier push for years despite not even being the top selling teen and her declining for years. She went from sub 20k solo and team book to. solo relaunch, champions relaunch, Marvel team up, and Marvel rising. 4 books starring Kamala per month and she is the leader in both teams. Not to mention all the games and cartoons she is in and feige going out of his way to include her in the MCU down the line. It's absurd to pretend Kamala is getting a super push, she has more ongoing books than Carol.
My outsider opinion is that she had the choice to either win current reader's love, sexists and not retarded people alike, or double down and try to earn a new readership by jumping onto new feminism trends.
She chose the second option and forgot that feminists don't buy comics, but marvel won't let her die because everyone is on the lookout while her books undersell and are ridiculed by people who buy them to hate them. The succeeded in making her an icon, but failed at selling comics; the comic book industry in a nutshell.
I have never read a single line she ever spoke but I love her aviator jacket/uniform design and short hair.
Saladim ahmed
user, the only thing cap marvel ever did that was interesting was die of cancer.
You know nothing of cap marvel and failed to make this interview a sexism issue.
There are only two good cap marvels.
Gennis and Monica
I honestly cannot tell anymore
if these are shitposts or you people are really this stupid.
The feminist idea/gay agenda lie that men don't like attractive feminine women and only respect creeper androids chicks and butch lesbians.
It's really just an attempt to brainwash women into being a sub class of ersatz men more then anything.
She is an aryan woman with blonde hair and blues eyes that stole the alias from a black woman because Marvel is a whitenormative company
tomboy haircut=/=dyke haircut
>comic book industry
It's all about brands, characters, and merchandise more than any actual printed book nowadays. Seems like they only make comic books to have them exist because that's the whole basis of their media empire, even though other stuff is really making the profits, and comic book quality suffers as shit writers and artists rely on gimmicks to get a reaction from readers and not heartfelt, meaningful stories. It's a sad state of affairs, but the good news is only the comic book industry will die and not comics themselves. It's a very exciting time for any independent creator in the age of crowdfunding and the phenomenon of going viral.
>Her rape comic is the only iconic comic she has other than the one where she gets Rogued
As usual, spoken by someone who only lives and breathes Yea Forums.
Which is why Janet's hair cut makes me diamonds yet Carol's hair makes me vomit.
She had short hair for like what, 3 years maybe? From 2015-2017. She got long hair again since last year, and every other incarnation of hers has had long hair (aside from Binary, but whew she was basically bald then).
I should have specified when Carol had short hair, yeah.
For many reasons
It literally represents the end of Marvel comics
Captain Marvel was created to replace Ms Marvel
The creation was ordered by Feige to have a female character who would be the MCU version of Wonder Woman
But the biggest mistake is that they already had this character ready
But they destroyed her and remade Ms Marvel into something disgusting
Ms Marve as clever and a true heroine with her faults
Classical Marvel character
But since Disney folks do not know shit about super hero comics, they order them to take away all the sexy and feminine side of Ms Marvel
After that they made her go over classic characters like Iron Man and others
The hatred of those accompanying Marvel comics was immediate
And it was no surprise to see the hatred she also had on the big screen
Kamala is just fanfic made by an old muslim hag that just wanted to write generic teenage drama but some kike told her to shove the super hero theme into the story somehow
I agree.
Most fail to pull it off.
You are muslin?
Woman can't show legs and arms for you?
it all depends of the skull shape, too pull a short haircut properly she can't have a jaw too big or else she will look like an simian abomination
do you know what is funny?
I remember going to see several MCU films and 80% of the rooms were full in the online purchase or when I went to buy in the theater when they showed me the screen and asked
-Where do you want to sit?
When I entered the rooms, the same thing happened, rooms with 35% or 45% of capacity
I refuse to believe sugar was not a man.
remember when Japan fixed her
How spectacular it would be to see Marvel not have ties to Disney and have brought Ms Marvel to the big screen
Samefagging won’t make it true
Cute, but not as cute as Nip Kamala.
Repulsive
The marvel anime movies and shit have been pretty good.
Kathryn Winnick would have been perfect.
Don't kid yourself, Marvel's SJW phase started on it's own. Possibly in response/anticipation of Disney's picks in films? Maybe, but it's all 100% their call all the way. You may as well blame Disney for Kitty being Starlord for a bit at this point.
I blame operation hawkeye as the main catalyst
>hurr see how weird it is when a man does a typically feminine pose? that enough proof that female characters are oversexualized in comics
No shit sherlock
No. That's a dyke haircut.
Stop labeling obvious lezbian signals and dress as tomboy. Youte only confusing girls and upsetting straights and dykes alike.
He's saying a tomboy hair cut doesn't equal a dyke haircut.
Though it technically does since all tomboys are lesbians or nascent FtM transgendered people.
spbp
The parents of the birthday kid, or the uninvited kid, if it's the latter, fuck them, they have no authority.
Based trips
As a man who's dicked both tomboys and ftms(early transition no-op) you're wrong.
Most tomboys are just girls who are for one reason or another afraid to show their feminine side or are just downright embarassed by it.
So they hide behind false masculinity or simply dress down into androgyny.
But they are almost always hyper fem once you get passed the camo of false masculinity and "gender neutrality" aka dressing in girl versions of male stuff.
But that simple fact has been demonized by the queer agenda and plastic surgeons and head shrinks who're looking for money and power and a permanent stream of revenue.
So they've spent the last few generations spinning it as closet lesbianism/bisexuality and transexualism hard as fuck.
>Carolshill being this obvious
Did they ever do that with peter? His ass is constantly peaking with all them crouches he does and god bless em for it
based tomboy dicker
Nope
btw remember that Spider Woman cover made by Frank Cho that caused a ton of butthurt? There is a Spider Man cover where he is doing the exact same pose
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yeah I know Maddox is overall a huge faggot but this video in particular is on spot
They've had these movies planned out for a decade.
Tomboys are for heterosexual. No greedy shithead surgeon or psychologist is going to destroy the truth.
This explains why perfectly
not everything is about your vagina, or pseudo meat burrito vagina, if you are a tranny
fucking faggot casuals
DC>Marvel
Any day of the week guys, Obviously
Is that from an anime? Do you have sauce, please?
i think it's from a Gintama episode
Thanks
He's lying
Sexist male fantasy of "taming" a woman with queer leanings into being a tradfemale. Disgusting.
>Monica will never get a push
But little Monica is grown up now and probably a jet fighter pilot like her mom. Perfect to pass the baton.
>Strong
>Beautiful
>Quietly dignified
Why couldn't we have had someone who looked like that?
But while Carol may have LOOKED sexy, she never WAS. She would never flirt with an opponent or wiggle her but with a smile. She was always intense and serious.
That's part of what makes her interesting. The contradictions in her character, partly born of her mixed nature.
>an old muslim hag
Just look at the hideous old crone. It's like she's going "That's right, my pretty, bite the apple".
While I do not like Amanat's decisions, old and a hag she is not.
Spiderman is always drawn with the steep ass
and no man complains about it
No I'm not.
Now take you queer gaslighting masquerading as being pro female feminist white knightery and protecting women from ebul men and shove it up your asshole you evil manipulative cunt.
They should have owned it. After all, she got her Kree DNA from Mar-Vell, and he was MALE.
"I don't exactly know how to put this, Carol - "
"Spit it out, doctor."
"Well, do you see this structure on the X-Ray?"
"Yes?"
"That's... for lack of a better word... a vestigial penis. It's inside your body cavity, so not visible, but you should be able to feel when it's erect."
"..."
"You want to sit down for a moment?"
"I don't think I ever want to sit down ever again."
Well, she identifies as 'Nonbinary'.
Do you remember when we called that 'androgynous'? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
So cute.
Except Wednesday for some reason.
>Sexist male fantasy of "taming" a woman
Unf.
That's because he can apparently retract his genitals. I say 'apparently' because they are never visible no matter what position he assumes.
Because she’s boring and yet keeps getting pushed. She’s Marvel’s Roman Reigns.
>She’s Marvel’s Roman Reigns.
This is so accurate it hurts.
She's boring and we prefer Rogue to have her powers. Carol needs to go back into a coma and be relegated to a split persona of Rogue.
Honestly? Both designs are bad.
NuCarol looks like a dude, but the old design looks like a parody stripper outfit. There's nothing iconic, just tits and ass. She looks like an edgy 90s McFarlane toy design.
Anyone saying that Disney could have used the original design in a movie is absolutely delusional.
sexy but unmemorable is still better than plain hideous
>Marvel's Roman Reigns
/thread
>why is ___ hated?
>i hate ___ because i-
>wait wait wait, stop, i need to make a thread asking why
Can we shop her hair permanently wet?
For maximum douche factor.
The worst thing about Carol is that she could easily work if they'd take some time to flesh out her character and give her to a good writer who understands her history. Instead, they just keep forgoing actual characterisation in favour of "HURR ICONIC" whatever the fuck iconic means in terms of personality, and they won't stop giving them to any female writer who walks in off the street purely because they're female.
If they just gave her to someone like Al Ewing from the get go, she'd probably be a lot more likable and fleshed out by now to the point where you might be able to genuinely call her Marvel's premier female hero.
When I think of what you COULD do with a character as potentially multifaceted as Carol and what is done with her instead I feel physically ill.
>the old design looks like a parody stripper outfit.
Namor, the human torch, conan, and many other men have run around in less.
Have you fucking seen collosus's original fucking xmen costume? It's almost the exact same goddamned costume. He's actually wearing less
It's the most normie comic booky conservative female costume around.
And it's probably THE most iconic female costume and name combo in all of marvel.
For fucks sake, it's a black gymnasts leotard with boots and a domino mask.
That's it.
She's almost unrecognizable without it.
This and also As a fan of Carol especially during Busiek era, who was genuinely interested in her arc, I think it's insipid of Marvel to take this character who relied so much on her Binary powers, once lost resorted to alcoholism and had to find her way back into Avengers with who she is, being trusted to make the right call, not what her powers make her (well, that helps too, but the point is that she struggled with being powered down), they fucking go around screaming she can kick Hulk's ass and that's what makes her badass.
Did you miss the point where she got stronger when she realized she's useful not only because she hits really hard?
You really can't name any decent female writers who could write her well?
Gail Simone or Marjorie Liu or any other old guard female writer who understands that stories are more important than agendas and social media/justice clout.
Deconnicks run was dark knight strikes again levels of unreadable
>the old design looks like a parody stripper outfit.
Collosus.
A valued and well respected X-man.
You are just a sexist bigot who hates women unless they fall into line with what you think women should be.
You're worse then the incels.
>Gail Simone
>female writer who understands that stories are more important than agendas and social media/justice clout.
Choose one.
Wail Ann Nocenti has lost her mojo, Amanda Conner needs to stick to drawing and any other currently working female writer I can think of would just bring more of the same quirktastic adventures with Carol and her totes adorbs meme pet, so I'd take Simone over the other options any day.
Hey, now. Ewing is just the guy you call when you need a mess fixed for any obscure character you have.
The guy just works magic in terms of forming coherent motivations from whatever and writing you out of a ditch.
Also Carol dating Night Thrasher, the ultimate poochie, would be fun as hell.
I'm sure Wilson could write a nice book about Carol, but a slow SoL isn't what's needed here.
Who would you have hired in 2012 or so?
She seriously has so much potential that isn't being realised. She's basically Hal Jordan with a Superman slant. It should be fucking easy to do something good with her, but they just won't stop being lazy about the way they push the character.
>Hal Jordan with a Superman slant.
Theyve been pushing that for years no.
it fucking sucks
The problem with modern female characters is that writers are too wary of being misogynistic and alienating SJWs who get all their comic book information from headlines to write them in the superhero genre. So, instead, they just keep writing them superhero-adjacent, going on wacky SoL adventures, befriending aggressively diverse casts of millennials and only occasionally being actual heroes. That seems to be the only thing this new wave of female writers seems to know how to write and no one tells them to try something more traditional because that's sexist.
Because they've been doing it wrong. The concept itself is fine.
Eve Ewing is doing okay on Iron Heart, so maybe she could do an okay book for Carol?
I read three issues of pure Riri Williams without cringing. That's pretty good.
People hate the movie version because she's basically just another shonen character--a big dumb jock that everyone looks down on for no reason who is easily tricked and yet can power through any problem just by believing in herself.
People hate the comic version because in her push there's a giant disconnect between what Marvel wants Carol to be and how she's actually written. It was the same problem the Inhumans had with their push.
Carol is supposed to be the most beloved superhero on Earth and yet she's committed warcrimes. She's supposed to be the best leader when she's shown herself to be less capable of leadership than the Wasp.
She's supposed to be this iconic Wonder Woman and yet her history is pretty bad. She started as Mar-Vell's girlfriend and legacy follower but Marvel has been steadily eroding that part of her history. Then she became a literally who whose most notable story involved giving birth to her own rapist. Then she became Warbird and an alcoholic loser under Busiek one step above D-Man and the GLA in terms of joke status.
Then she becomes butch Carol and does nothing of any real significance besides go full totalitarian during Civil War II without punishment.
Iconic characters have history. You can't just make someone an iconic. When your character starts having comic covers that get homages, then they're an icon.
She's honestly a pretty scummy person. She was totally okay with nuking the Hulk and the town he was in an turning him over to the shadowy deep state.
People hate Carol because Carol is like Roman Reigns a heel that no writer treats like a heel.
The thing about Hal and Clark is that they have charisma and are known to take an ass whooping just to power through.
Carol has the charisma of Goku and rarely ever takes a beating.
Nah she's great and only sexless losers don't love her.
Carol's warbird outfit isn't bad because its a stripper costume, its bad because its bland. It's like something that would be next to the "build a generic energy controller" box in Mutants and Masterminds or another superhero rpg.
>It's another fucking carol thread
Shill detected
This. Her old costume is extremely boring and the only reason anyone praises it is because they think doing so is standing up to the SJW menace.
Yes, but her classic costumes are better than either
The open belly one? Eh. It's honestly not that good either. Look at Mary Marvel for how a female version of a male costume should look, Her classic Ms. Marvel look makes it look like Carol got dressed in the dark. There's no real coordination with it.
user, no one likes hal's "charisma" outside of middle aged fucking losers and clark's charisma is nice human fellow with the powers of a god...which no one is able to do correctly in media anymore.
There is not single solitary bit of decent personality between them and there's a reason why they both have bloated as fuck casts and spend almost no time having solo adventures.
Having her be a shitty knockoff in terms of personality of male characters is what people who don't really like or believe in female characters do.
As a matter of fact, the people who do that don't actually understand the males they think they are parroting in terms of characterization and know for a fact that they can't make a good female character period.
Carol Danvers quite honestly has fuck and all going for her in terms of personality and now in terms of visual iconography because of the costume change and bland actress choice.
Women can not pull off the same kind of screen chewing gravitas as men. No matter how hard they try to mimic men. It's just not going to work.
And when they try, it comes off as awful and offputting.
user, complexity =/= good.
Making it overly complex means that the designer can't actually create something iconic enough to be memorized. They make up for lack of talent and personality with too much lines and pockets and guns and shit going on.
"Brevity is the soul of wit" or something to that effect.
The same applies to costume designs.
Carol's costume is simple memorable iconic and does the job.
Her new overly designed eye assault of a costume is an attempt to give her a personality and heroic presence without actually having to do any actual work when it comes to making her a likeable bankable character
And it shows.
>No one likes Hal's charisma
Stopped reading there.
Then why did you post.
user, no one outside of middle aged fucking comic book reading losers likes og Hal's "charisma".
Every version of Hal that's not in the comics since the fucking GoTG movie has been an obvious and embarassing rip off obvious rip off of Starlord.
Period.
Wake the fuck up and smell the coffee.
Adhering to ancient versions of comic characters that are only popular to a handful of dying boomers helps no one and entertains even fewer.
Carol Danvers is a failure.
She is a prototype of the ersatz male superheroine who seeks to be a mimicry of golden age heroe's in a time when no one cares for them anymore because of the very people who seek to make Carol into a mimicry of them.
She fails on every level as a fucking concept.
Call it sexist, call it mysoginist, call it what you want.
But until you show me 3 women who are in this same ersatz male mold that are actually popular. Not niche popular with a handful of creeps and losers but real world popular.
I remind you comics and stories with heroines have been around for as long as we've been able to tell tall tales and pleasing lies about the afterlife.
>Carol Danvers is a failure.
Carol Danvers is the new lead of the MCU and there is nothing you can do to stop it, incel.
>user, no one outside of middle aged fucking comic book reading losers likes og Hal's "charisma".
>Every version of Hal that's not in the comics since the fucking GoTG movie has been an obvious and embarassing rip off obvious rip off of Starlord.
>Period.
How are you this dumb?
>He types this while Morrison is killing it on Green Lantern
You don't read comics.
Find some new b8 m8, this shits getting stale af
Not an incel.
I'm celibate by choice.
And yeah there is.
I can continue to voice my displeasure at this fuck up and laugh at her and people like you.
I can also put my full support behind good female representation and female creatives who are not the useful tools of the agenda and business interests.
retard
>btw remember that Spider Woman cover made by Frank Cho that caused a ton of butthurt?
No, but I remember one by Milo Manara. What are you even doing here if you can't recognize Cho's art at first glance?
>Incel
>Hates an alpha like Hal
Checks out.
Loser standing up for his boyhood hero or silly cunt who white knights retarded men that she is attracted to
...I'm kind of an outsider to all this but Carol seems to have had *really* shit stories during Marvel's golden age up until Rogue siphoned her powers. She was out of the loop for god only knows how long and in recent years her stance during Civil War II was universally despised by the audience.
She has the opposite problem of the *other* Captain Marvel-- while Shazam vanished for years his comics were still universally praised or at least fondly remembered for their whimsy and charm. Carol has an awful rape situation and at least two depowerment plots as some of her most well known stories.
Now, I really liked the movie? I felt that it worked on all the levels it was reaching for (aside from the scene at the end where she inadvertently inspired Nick Fury to use the Avenger name) and never laughed harder during a Marvel film than when she fucking launched Jude Law into the distance.
However alot of Marvel fans probably associate her with all of the bad baggage, see Bad Baggage The Character getting a huge push,(putting aside the reason for this is because Tony, Cap and Thor's actors ain't sticking around much longer) on top of that see this huge push and a rebranding of the character into a feminist icon that wasn't well liked and they push back against it.
Never mind that this is exactly what they did with Iron man in the movies after the FIRST Civil War event (which nobody liked either, especially some of its repercussions,) but I digress...
..I meant that Iron man was rebranded in general, not rebranded into a feminist icon.
...Though there is Ironheart, I suppose.
Iron Man was before all this culture war cancer had really set in and Marvel was nowhere near the moneymaker it is now. I'm not going to say you're wrong about the actual disgruntled fans or readers, but a lot of the noise is more political and outrage farming than people that actually care about the movie or the character getting upset at its success.
fungus phobia
kek
One of the reasons is the actress Brie Larson
Everyone expected more than a Oscar winner
It is depressing to see Larson with that undernourished body gaining millions of dollars and having a mediocre performance
It looks like she was playing the character Emily from the movie The Devil Wears Prada
BTW, it gets worse if you see a 51 year old actress with a body that really looks like a comic book character
boring...
LMAO
Riri is nobody's icon, though.
And the IM makeover to fun, charming crowd pleaser was not something anyone could begrudge. It fit too well.
>i've stuck my penis in them, therefore i know them better than trained medical and psychological professionals
>i-it's totally not because i feel insecure about the fact that fucking trans dudes means i'm not straight... t-they're really just women, right?
Yeah, little girls can SO look up to Carol when she's wearing THAT.
This. It pisses me off that the idea of a tomboy is under attack by lefties. A girl can't just be a tomboy anymore. Now she has to be a closet dyke or trannie.
In trying to make gender roles fluid the lefties have ironically made them more rigid.
they look up to kim and kylie jenner, even when they're naked. If asses are really that big of a problem then just make it a bodysuit or swap the sash with something that covers it
>it make my penis the big penis so it interesting
Seriously, that shit looks extremely generic and dull.
There's more money and power in the medical establishment adn queer agenda telling confused women they are transexuals and getting them on surgeries drugs and the couch for the rest of their lives.
I have talked to them and fucked them.
Your opinion of me does not matter.
What? Are you upset some horse dicked chad pounded an ftm's brains out and doesn't consider himself gay or bi in the least and sees the ftm as just a weird little cunt he fucked the hell out of on the reg months?
Does that uspet you?
Does me making "him" wear a dress tying his hands over his head and making HER call me master and say she's a bad girl and shold be punished make you feel like less of a "real man"?
Or are you jealous.
If the costume has to be overwrought then the character wearing it isn't interesting and the potential for cosplay and artists to draw it is cut to nothing. Meaning a completely dead fandom who can't participate.
They DEPEND on simple costumes and easy things to draw to build up a micro community of cosplayers and artists.
But they decided to push that busy disaster of a costume because they know that no one woudl take a 5/10 terrible actress who's built like a plank seriously.
>That's because he can apparently retract his genitals. I say 'apparently' because they are never visible no matter what position he assumes.
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