there are enough avengers endgame spoiler threads so here's a reverse spoiler thread, it will list all the heavily rumored stuff that DOESN'T happen in the movie. no, i haven't seen the movie. yes, i've read the actual script, so unless i got a decoy or things got changed at the last minute, this is all legit.
the most surprising thing: gamora doesn't come back. vision doesn't come back. loki doesn't come back. crossbones doesn't come back. ancient one doesn't come back. they appear in time travel scenes and flashbacks but none of them are alive at the end of the movie. everyone who died before the decimation, in infinity war or earlier movies, stays dead. period.
this isn't fucking lord of the rings, there's no army of the dead, all that stuff about thor bringing an army back from hell is nonsense. also, hela and odin aren't in the film at all, not even in flashbacks.
i won't say if there's another scene on vormir, but i will confirm that ALL of the vormir theories are totally wrong. no iron man pushing cap or pepper off the cliff or vice-versa, no cap or iron man killing themselves, no ghost/zombie iron man reanimated by the soul stone, no red skull going rogue and trying to collect the infinity stones for himself.
no, captain marvel doesn't beat thanos by herself, obviously she plays a role in several of the fights but no more than any other avengers. she's far less crucial to the final outcome than several other characters. (her role was actually expanded from what it originally was, but it's still not as huge as some people think.)
cont'd okoye and valkyrie are even less important, they play virtually no role other than appearing in the background of a few big fight scenes. people seriously overemphasize how important they are to the plot.
none of the characters who died during the snap will play a major role in the film, they aren't even around for the first 5/6ths of the movie and don't do particularly much even in that last 1/6th. all the theories about spider-man or shuri doing something huge or being really important in some way, they're way off.
there's no new antagonist. thanos is the main villain, to the extent that he's even around, but mostly there isn't really a villain in the traditional sense, the decimation itself is what the heroes are fighting against. all the stuff about iron man or nebula or red skull turning evil again and becoming the new big bad, or a secret new villain like kang or annihilus appearing out of nowhere at the last minute, that's all false. (there may be some new characters introduced at the end who'll be antagonists in later movies, but they won't be villains here.)
some rumors say all of the original avengers die. this doesn't happen. for instance, hulk survives.
some rumors say all of the original avengers survive. this also doesn't happen.
no, there's no time travel in the movie. j/k, fucking with you on this one, it's kinda silly that anyone is still trying to deny it.
Carter Ramirez
clever post idea, let's hear some more anti-spoilers
Anthony Fisher
characters who *don't* get the final blow on thanos: captain america, hawkeye, black widow, war machine, captain marvel, rocket, anyone who got dusted, any secondary character like okoye/valkyrie/korg
Connor Allen
the black order from infinity war doesn't come back, not even in time travel scenes
Jackson Richardson
the movie isn't a hypersigil that brings stan lee back to life irl
Lincoln Sanchez
the skrulls don't appear in the film at all, let alone have anything to do with the plot, I don't think the filmmakers were particularly confident that audiences would see captain marvel beforehand and didn't want to have to explain the whole shapeshifting alien premise
Luis Harris
also this one isn't an anti-spoiler but: james gunn was apparently VERY pissed off at their choice to permanently kill off gamora in avengers 3, and relations between him and marvel studios were already heavily strained as a result of that, even before that bullshit scandal broke out. that might have been why they were so quick to fire him, it seemed like they were already looking for an excuse.
supposedly his script for guardians 3 will find a way to conclude gamora's story in a more satisfactory way, despite her being dead. but idk cause i haven't read that one. (i can't guarantee they won't bring back loki, gamora, or vision later down the line in future films, just not this one.)
Carter Cox
>characters who *don't* get the final blow on thanos: … captain marvel Russos are hacks confirmed
>none of the characters who died during the snap will play a major role in the film, they aren't even around for the first 5/6ths of the movie and don't do particularly much even in that last 1/6th. all the theories about spider-man or shuri doing something huge or being really important in some way, they're way off. Figured.
Samuel Martin
So why the fuck is this movie 3 hours long if so much doesn't happen?
Bentley Allen
other than gamora not coming back, these all seem pretty obvious lol
like wtf did people think? "yeah zombie iron man and thor's army of dead vikings save the day from annihilus, who we just introduced to be the main villain in the last hour of a 6 hour movie duology!"
I was expecting that rumored "Everyone in one shot scene" to happen that various actors have mentioned, but it's probably a red herring.
Landon Wilson
More and more, I'm convinced that the first hour of this film is everyone moping and not leaving the Avengers facility. Hell, that suit march is probably a full hour into the film.
Samuel Gomez
OP here again, that actually reminds me of another anti-spoiler: death, as in the abstract cosmic entity, is NOT in the movie in any way, shape, or form. the whole concept of thanos being in love with death was scrapped during the writing of infinity war and won't be returning here.
although just out of curiosity, a question for you comic nerds, is the death who thanos is in love with the same as the one from neil diamond's sandman comics? yes i know those were dc but idk if that makes a difference, i'm not actually that much of a comic person myself
Jordan Robinson
Is Tony NOT in the march scene?
Nathaniel Rogers
remember that scene from the trailer showing the avengers during the battle of wakanda, including hulk? and then in the actual movie it's the hulkbuster armor? same thing here
there is an "almost everyone in one shot scene" but in terms of specific characters, a few of them might get left out
David Hernandez
t-b-h that's not that far off
Cameron Morris
>is the death who thanos is in love with the same as the one from neil diamond's sandman comics? lol I wish I could give you a simple yes or no answer here but it's really complicated, google Hypercrisis and maybe eventually you can figure it out
Michael Roberts
Anti-Spoiler: Adam Warlock and Death are relevant and there...
Did I do this right?
Colton Lopez
nope! ;)
Parker Anderson
>although just out of curiosity, a question for you comic nerds, is the death who thanos is in love with the same as the one from neil diamond's sandman comics? In a literal sense, no. That would be a copyright violation. In a more abstract, cosmic sense, yes. Death in Sandman is like the roots of a tree and all personifications of death branch off from her in some way or another.
Gavin Robinson
Thanos sees the error of his ways and decides to undo the snap and become the guardian of the infinity stones leaving it open for a future return should they feel the need.
We all know he's going to get blown up like a typical baddie
Aaron Martinez
Figures. Like, I don't know why, but I feel that the beginning of this film is going to drag on and on. Like, we've waited the year, and yet we'll wait another hour to get to the good stuff.
so it's one of those "different embodiments of the same concept" things? thanks
it's a slow burn. it's not done poorly, by any means, and from a narrative perspective, i think they made the right move. but i can see how some viewers would find it frustrating.
Justin Collins
>it's a slow burn. it's not done poorly, by any means, and from a narrative perspective, i think they made the right move. but i can see how some viewers would find it frustrating.
I would not be shocked if this film disappoints cause of that.
Benjamin Lee
i hope not. but i also don't know how it'll actually come across on screen, so who knows?
Carson Wilson
oh fwiw this theory is completely wrong, the mirror dimension isn't in the movie at all
i also literally can't make sense of this theory, it's borderline incomprehensible
