Aight Yea Forums who wins?

The strongest version of Superman is literally unbeatable and exists on a scale so far removed from Goku it's not really fair so I suppose that Supes win

>Goku and Vegeta both got their stupid asses beat by some little robot bitch
Superman X-ray labotomizes Goku with ease

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Goku would destroy Superman during the freeza saga. No ui needed.

See

So you are admitting that Superman can't defeat Goku on his own and thus needs to fuse with an alternate reality counterpart in order to pilot a multiverse robot just to defeat Goku. So sad Superfags.

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Who would win, her or Mxy?

Hakai>gag characters
She jobs to Beeru and Goku has already surpassed Beerus already

Not him, that user is pointing out Superman has a higher upper limit than Goku.

Oh sorry, I wasn't aware this wasn't a both teams at full power thing. I guess if we need to handicap Superman for Goku to stand a chance..
Any other limits? Maybe Goku should be made of Kryptonite?

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The King of all is not even on Mxyzptlk's level.

Goku dies like 4 or more times to Radditz, heart failure and so on.

Anons are saying she's a gag character, Mxy is not a gag character. If she's a gag character than even Captain Carrot will destroy her.

Superman hands down.

Ki isn't magic so it's not problem.

Can tank a spirit bomb because he has a pure heart

Has taken hits from gods and got up; unlike Goku vs one real hit from his counterpart god.

Wanna take full power level then let's talk about Earth-1 graphic novel Superman when they talk about how a blue sun would give him even more godly strength.

Goku would never make the connection that Clark is solar powered.

Even if Goku could out power Clark; he would exhaust himself too fast while Clark just gets up again over and over.

Goku can only hold on to so many sensu beans.

And above all else Clark is not a dipshit like Goku and just shutdown the fight as fast as he can.

Handicap? You retarded or something? Superman Thought Robot is the combination of 2 Superman being fused into a robot with the aid of another Superman. Its a 4v1 situation where there is basically 3 other Supermen helping Superman. Why don't you just bring the multiversal Supermen into it while you are at it. Clearly Superman needs more Supermen on his side just to contend against a single Goku.

Mr. Mxyz is a gag character. Bat-mite is a gag character. They are never allowed to do anything serious and exist only for the sake of a gag.

Depends on who's writing it.

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Goku would easily defeat Superman. Its not even a contest. Superman doesn't know how to fight. Usually just rely on his overwhelming physical attributes in order to defeat the weaker opponent. Hence why he always have trouble against anyone that is at least his physical equal in terms of strength, durability and speed. Even against people that are significantly slower than Superman, Superman still have trouble against them. Pretty pathetic if you think about it. Doesn't even have the reflexes to fight at superspeed and overwhelm the superspeedless opponent with his superspeed.

SSG Goku possess sufficient power capable of destroying a half a universe. SSB Goku is significantly more powerful than SSG Goku. And UI Goku is significantly more powerful than SSB Goku. At best Superman is only capable of destroying a planet. An impressive feat, but pales in comparison to Goku.

At best, Superman is only capable of fighting End of Z Goku. Any other Goku would be too much for Superman.

>Usually just rely on his overwhelming physical attributes in order to defeat the weaker opponent. Hence why he always have trouble against anyone that is at least his physical equal in terms of strength, durability and speed. Even against people that are significantly slower than Superman, Superman still have trouble against them. Pretty pathetic if you think about it. Doesn't even have the reflexes to fight at superspeed and overwhelm the superspeedless opponent with his superspeed.
t. Has never read a superman story

This.
But faggots will never accept this answer.

Who's writing Superman?

Nope. Read the com1c, they're the same person ultimately

Bat-Mite maybe, but Mxy has had at least a few serious stories in different canons
And given what the most recent example (Superman Reborn) implied about Mxy, Mxy's like Darkseid in that every version of him is the same guy

>retard spews bullshit about comics
You know shit about comics

if the writer somehow makes Superman spare Goku after realising after each fight Goku is getting stronger and stronger after each fight, Goku will eventually beat Supes after enough fights. Isn't this just Doomsday?

> they're
> they
pathetic

No they aren't. Superman is a good Superman from the positive universe. Ultraman is an evil Superman from the negative universe. They are not the same person. Nevermind the fact that they are only capable of using the Superman Thought Robot after another Superman from another universe decides to fuse Superman and Ultraman together and then transplant them into a robot.

In a full on power wank battle, bullshit eternally overpowered Superman wins.
In a tournament settle with rules and limitations imposed on the fighters, such as no flying, super fightsexual autist Goku wins.

Reminder that Superman punched through an infinite dimension

So glad that we can agree that BruceBat and DickBat are the same person since they are both Batman. Glad that is settled.

Superman would fry Gokus brain well before that

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>casting aside trips of truth
You faggots do not read comics

>changing the subject
Nice try faggot

Since they are the same person, its totally fair if Superman, Ultraman, Captain Marvel, Apollo, Mister Majestic, the High, and Icon decides to fight Goku in a 7 against 1 since the Supermen needs all the help that they can get.

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>this amount of VS battles wiki tier arguments for Goku

>Usually just rely on his overwhelming physical attributes in order to defeat the weaker opponent.
I swear to god people posting in these shit threads think Superman fights the Riddler or something.

Goku doesn't get zenkai boosts anymore. Toriyama abandoned that ass pull for others

Not the same, read the comic you cajul

GT Goku wins.

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You need to make up your mind on the matter instead of going full retard like Superman and his relations to magic.

>GT Goku
jobs easily SS4 is shit that's outclassed by SSG

Fuck this "who would win" bullshit.

Let's discuss how an actual crossover would work, I'll start, if it ever did happen who would fuck it up less, Toei or Warner Bros?

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Read the comic filthy casual

Glad we can agree that Superman is allergic to magic and will instantly get ko by it.

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Why is it very obvious that everyone who argues for Goku knows literally nothing about Superman or what he is capable of?

I got a better question.

Why do weebs and spics hate Superman so much?

>canon representation of goku versus an alternate non-canon representation of superman just to level the playing fields so superman can win

He doesn't brood and spout entry level philosophy every 5 minutes to make up for a shitty animation budget.

Because its either Superfags, Superman haters, Goku fags, or Goku haters. There ain't no unbiased option.

But Goku only covers the shitty animations part of that.

I like Supes too, but you're fucking deluded if you think he's been in anything decent since Justice League.

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Because Superman would brood and spout entry level philosophy every 5 minutes to make up for a shitty animation budget. See Superman Grounded.

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Not even what's being talked about, Shazam on Superman's level dipshit

>projecting and race baiting this much
Sad

Please. The Ultra Instinct concept is so far up its own ass it might as well be fan fiction. And they make a point of explaining it over and over.

>alternate
>noncanon
cajul

i always say superman but mainly to piss off my dbztards friends

>two Supermen Fuse
>become a sentient robot literally called Superman
>it doesn’t count because it’s not specifically Earth Prime/0/1 version.

Golden Age Superman has as much in common with Earth 1 Superman as DCEU Superman has with Tangent Superman.

That’s still Superman, which is why he’s called Superman.

>a comicbook
>animation
are you anons the same retarded person?

Hey, retards. See Unless they are fighting another shonen character or "da bad guy", Saiyans are punk ass bitches. They aren't even in the top 10 OP anime races anymore, let alone on multiversal Yea Forums characters.

Take of your nostalgia glasses you jagaloons. Dragon ball took too long off, saiyans're beat.

But I was saying that Goku didn't brood or spout entry level philosophy.

Superman got knocked out easily without even putting up a fight because magic. Read the comic dumbass.

Saitama

superman because we are on Yea Forums. go ask and they will give you the answer you want

It’s going to bum me out that they’re going to have him job the Carol.

>Superman removes the part of goku's brain that allows him to go into any of his forms
He would beat the shit out of UI Goku anyway, but it would make the fight a lot shorter

That's a robot that can easily crack a planet in half by swinging her hand and move, or throw it against another planet by jumping though. Goku matched her in Super with SSB though.

Vegeta jobbed but that's what he does.

But Beerus lost via stomachache.

That's true. Say what you will about Toriyama, but the man doesn't pretend like his work is anything more than an excuse for strong guys to shoot lasers from their hands

>Goku would never make the connection that Clark is solar powered.
Actually it sound like exactly the kind of connection he'd make

Is this essentially the same bullshit as with Darkseid? That all AU versions of Darkseid are just projection of the main Darkseid entity? Can we use that now to claim "Darkseid needsm ore Darkseid on his side just to content against a single Thanos"?

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Toei, easy, especially if Toriyama were involved.

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pedo

Dragon Ball in-general is kind off free of "muh nakama" stuff.

Most of what he does is just there to be fun, DB is originally just supposed to be a dumb comedy, Dr. Slump basically is just a dumb comedy, Every Dragon Quest is basically just "hero kills even bad guy in a fantasy setting"

Mind you, none of this are actual problems either. It works for what he does.

I wonder why "Americans" never got Dr.Slump.
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I'm nor American, but Dr Slump still looks dumb as shit to me

That's why it's a gag manga, user.

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Let's settle this once and for all:

Goku wins.

Here's why:

Unless you threaten to kill the world somehow or you kill Goku, he is going to want to keep fighting against someone as strong, resilient and goodhearted as Superman. I don't think Goku could kill Superman and I don't think Superman would kill Goku. Yes, Goku would figure out Superman's speed, strength and fighting style but would it really matter? It's Superman and above being super powered, he's also really fucking smart. I think Goku would have some awesome counters and it'd be great to Supes deal with energy blasts, ultimately I see Superman holding out until the "This is the single attack that ends a superhero fight that I should have started with," moment. Which immediately leads to...

The Conclusion:

Superman would forfeit the fight to Goku and congratulate him on being so strong. Goku would then thank Superman for the outstanding fight. They shake hands, it's over.

Basically, Saitama vs Genos.

>Goku has already surpassed Beerus already
Except that's wrong you fucking mong. Him being able to tap into UI in a tournament doesn't suddenly mean he's stronger. Dude flat out admits post tournament st he didn't know how to do it. Beerus meanwhile is just as capable of getting it by virtue of being a god. Assuming Goku masters it there's nothing saying Beerus wouldn't put in the effort to do the same. With Beerus being naturally stronger than Goku as is it's almost guaranteed that him going UI would thrash Goku in UI.

> Dude flat out admits post tournament st he didn't know how to do it.
Why are people this fucking retarded to believe that goku won't tap into UI again? It's fucking Dragon Ball if you honestly think Goku isn't keeping his powerup you must be mentally challenged. Soon he'll tap into MUI 2 or some shit
>Beerus meanwhile is just as capable of getting it by virtue of being a god.
Beerus has been a GoD for millions of years and STILL hasn't mastered it, fuck off Beeruscuck. Beerus is a lazy sack of shit that won't put in any effort into mastering UI. The retard doesn't even do his job as a destroyer which is why you had shitters like majin buu running around
>With Beerus being naturally stronger than Goku
Nice headcanon

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Why Superman clothes almost never get destroyed during battle like Goku's?
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You read the comic you fool, Shazam says he got lucky, everyone knows Superman is vulnerable to magic and from other comics we know Shazam is Superman's physical equal

Goku got his ass beat by her too, he could not stop her either

No

Goku can be a gag character. See the original series

Supes. Goku's a better fighter, but Supes at his best is just so far beyond what Goku can do, and you know damn well that Goku can't resist fighting Supes at his best.

DC has proved many times that while they allow Shazam to be powerful he can never outright best him.

Hence why stupid dialogues like Billy punching his lights out and saying "bb-b-b-but that didn't count xD"

I'm glad you bring that up, it's another feat of Superman's. The reason you rarely see Superman's clothes get ripped is for a few different reasons depending on the writer. In most versions whatever clothes Superman's skin is in contact with becomes just as invulnerable as he is just by touching Superman's skin.

In other versions Superman's Kryptonian recovery gear is indestructable, even without touching his skin but regular clothes get ripped anyway even if they touch Superman's skin.

Barkley, obviously

Yeah Goku is a joke

>Saitama vs Genos
More like Saitama vs Boros, with Goku playing the part of Boros. Superman would just tank everything until Goku collapsed from exhaustion, then tell him it was a good fight.

True, thank you for clearing that up

Whoever the fuck the writer wants to win. Powerleveling is the most retarded thing on the fucking planet. If the writer feels like it, they'll job to even Luffy or Arale. These characters don't have consistent powerlevels within their own universe, much less when compared to others.

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Bullfuckingshit whatever the writer wants is a fucking copout

I'm currently playing around with a what-if story where Kal-El lands on Dragon Ball's Earth instead of Kakarot, and is raised by Gohan in the same manner though is definitely smarter due to Kryptonian mind plus not hitting his head and making him autistic.

When every storyline, every comic run, every series, every movie, has a different writer, and each of those stories gives Superman differences from minor personality quirks to major limitations or boosts in powers, it absolutely matters who is writing Superman. Goku has a few versions that branch away from the original manga, but it's all rooted to the same source. Meanwhile, many versions of Superman can function as their own source for all the differences they tend to have. It's not even about Golden/Silver/Modern Superman, it's that each fucking comic might as well be its own version. The guy who wrote All-Star Superman is not going to write him the same way as New 52 or Man of Steel.

I'm pretty sure every version of Superman vs Goku should start with both of them being upfront and honest that the entire point of the fight is for Goku to benchmark himself against a strong opponent. I don't think any writer outside of Frank Miller would make Superman the aggressor.

Most versions of Superman beat Goku.

Agreed. If I wrote the story, not just a fight but an actual story, I'd make it clear they're pretty much a match for each other. Goku is the aggressor, who wants to spar, test out Superman as an enemy. Superman might humor him, but ultimately Superman isn't interested in such things like Goku. I'd write it so Goku is a better fighter and probably wins the sparring match, but also clear that Superman wasn't giving it his all due to the nature of the fight. In-character, he just isn't interested in sparring like that, and even when he goes all-out he wants to end the conflict as quickly as possible, he rarely enjoys beating a villain.

The problem with the match-up is inherently the ideologies of most Western superheroes vs most Eastern heroes, that being what they do. Superheroes like Superman aren't fighting, they're solving a problem; that problem might be an opponent that needs to be defeated, but their job is helping people first and enjoying the fight last. Batman fights people, but he's a detective first. Goku's problems are always an opponent he has to beat. Naruto, Luffy, it's always a face that needs to be punched. Half of Superman's stories are problems without faces, or faces so far above him that fighting isn't even on the table. It's like putting Sherlock Holmes vs Bruce Lee, two completely different types of heroes beyond they sometimes take out enemies with their skill or power.

>Darkseid finds out about about the Dragon Balls.
>Bulma contacts the Justice League with the help of Mister Miracle.
>Justice League and the Z Fighters team up to stop Darkseid from using them to give himself knowledge of the Anti-Life equation.

>implying Darkseid doesn't already know what the ALE is
>implying Orion didn't already kick Darkseid's ass with the ALE
>implying Darkseid even needs Dragon balls when characters like Mxyptlk can grant Superdragon ball+ tier wishes at will

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Darkseid doesn't know the Anti-life equation hence why he desires to find it.

Orion is vastly inferior to Darkseid. Orion is going to get spanked to death.

Darkseid is incapable of capturing someone of Mr. Mxyz's caliber.

Now this is a good answer

DBS answered this shit definitively.Battle of Gods dd too. Jiren's power isnt even closer to Superman at his maximum and it's on such another level to Goku that Goku would have to pull out every stop, achieve ultra-instinct mastered to even have a shot at beating Superman, and even then, he has a limited window which he wont be able to make the cut.

Goku could *Never* Ever Beat Superman on his own, ever. Goku and frieza and 17 together couldnt even beat Jiren together when he was exhausted without both goku and frieza sacrificing themselves, only to knock him out of the ring, let alone kill him or defeat him fully.

The feats of strength superman has displayed are an order of magnitude beyond Goku, and he doesn't have any real limits. On the other hand, Superman never really displays much physical improvement. If he can't win a fight, the solution is always 1) Power through with determination 2) Fight smarter not harder or 3) Call Batman (which is really just 2 again). Goku's go-to solution to literally every problem up to and including "not having anything better to do" is to get stronger. He also wakes up stronger every time he gets his ass kicked just like Doomsday does.

Thus, my thesis is that if they got into just one knock down drag out fight, Superman would win handily even against Ultra Instinct. However, if one of them was permanently transplanted into the other's universe (either as a prank by Mr. Mxyzptlk or due to a poorly worded wish), Goku would surpass Superman eventually.

And Goku isnt the type of person to exploit that, or have any way to counter it without destroying the sun. He's not Vegeta.

Vegeta on the other hand would absolutely blot out the sun but he'd still get his ass beat.

>Goku isn't the type of person to figure out how his opponent's ability works and exploit it.

Didn't he do exactly that to Yakon?

Don't get me wrong, I could also picture him throwing Superman into the sun just to see how strong he gets, but Goku isn't THAT predictable.

So does that mean at the beginning of Z, Kryptonians start showing up and we get a Kryptonian saga? Or does Raditz still appear and wonder where the hell Kakorot is? Where did Kakorot's space pod go? Did he land in Smallville?

We always shitpost about this dull pairing. There a single anime character that can hope to match Spectre?

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Didn’t death battle answer this twice?

Assuming that he figured out that he was powered by the sun; then what? He wouldn't blow it up to power him down; goku likes to win by beating them at their best so they implies he wouldn't use kryptonite either.

Goku wants a fight not a victory and Clark wants peace and will fight if necessary.

One Punch Man.

His entire narrative function is being able to defeat anyone easily. If someone gives him a challenge, it ruins the joke.

Basically I had in mind that Kakarot and Kal-El swapped, so there are no Saiyan's in DC or Kryptonians in DB. Trying to invent how the Kryptonians would have interacted with the universe would make it too complicated. Generally in most stories enough information is left on Kal's ship so he knows what he is, where he came from, etc. Even if it's not from this universe, he'd know he's from Krypton. The constant events would remain the same, like Raditz showing up and Trunks arriving (his future is unchanged, so he freaks out when Goku doesn't exist). But Kal's interactions with those events changing other events would be interesting, as would be his relationships.

Kakarot would land in Smallville, same deal. He'd probably never learn his true heritage, basically an anomaly in the universe as far as others go. He probably wouldn't mind too much.

>implying Orion + ALE vs SF Darkseid didn't already happen
>implying I implied Darkseid could capture Mxy
Even shit like the miracle machine negates the need for Dragon Balls in DC

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One punch man is a parody joke rip-off of Superman

Gokufags are in denial

Gandalf the gray, and Gandalf the white
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight
And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie
And Cowboy Curtis, and Jambie the genie
Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo-pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger
Bill S. Preston, and Theodore Logan
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan

Would Goku be threatening to Dr Manhattan? I don't think so.

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>Superman vs. Dr. Manhattan
I can't wait to see that fight, DC better deliver the feats

>The feats of strength superman has displayed are an order of magnitude beyond Goku, and he doesn't have any real limits.
>"HURR SUPAMANE HAZ NO LEMITS"

Deathbattle cucks are shit, and so are you for pushing this shitty narrative

Here you are implying that Darkseid is a 12th level intellect and capable of constructing a Miracle Machine. Darkseid isn't and he can't.