Assuming you like hero Otto Octavius; do you prefer he stay as The Superior Spider-Man, following Peter's example and striving to do better, or would you like him to go back as The Superior Doctor Octopus, thus giving him his own name and trying to make the name mean something good instead of sinister? Personally I like the latter, and the costume is better.
Assuming you like hero Otto Octavius; do you prefer he stay as The Superior Spider-Man...
Bentley Johnson
Jayden Kelly
A anti villian is okay.
Adrian Martin
not ever villain needs to be redeemed and become an anti hero, but it is always refreshing when we get to see a more intimate perspective of a villain
Chase Watson
There are so many heroes and antiheroes already, that it's no longer worth turning a villain into a another one, unless he's replaced by another villain of equal stature or better. Doctor Octopus hasn't been adequately replaced as a villain, so Otto has to eventually return to evil.
Grayson Sullivan
Well hero or villain, I want him to go back to pic related. His new Superior series isn't half bad. Personally I think it's better than Slott's shit where he was basically stealing Peter's life and shit but that's just my opinion really.
Liam Parker
If he's going to stay an anti-hero I at least wish he'd go back to looking like a schlubby scientist rebuilding himself from nothing rather than looking like another Spider-Man clone. We have way too many of those.
I would prefer him trying to redeem the name Doctor Octopus and his reputation, because piggybacking off Peter's always made it seem to easy for him.
But I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I just can't see either of those as Otto Octavius. I don't recognize that man as the same one that was one of my favorite comic characters and it seems to me that the fandom has little interest in seeing that guy again because he's old news and the new Otto is cool and trendy, and I guess fandom has the idea Otto was not a serious villain and that stealing Peter's life is what made him a credible villain when he's never needed that to be Spider-Man's true nemesis.
Playing the PS4 game really made me realize how much I miss Dr Octopus.
I feel like Dan Slott might as well have killed the character and replaced him with a new one
Anyway, if they are going to keep Otto as Superior Spider-Man, they might as well give us a legacy character to take over as Doc Ock.
I wouldn't mind Liv showing up in the comics
James Lewis
I prefer the Superior Octopus, myself. Much more unique costume and makes him stand out more, when we have too many Spidey-clones running around in-universe already.
Kayden Rivera
I prefer all characters to have their own identities
Gavin Long
Back at the end of Superior Spider-Man, my idea was to have Otto come back, but to still retain all the new values he learnt from his time as Spider-Man.
He'd become a hero, but would still be narcissistic and an asshole. But he'd also have this hero-worship of Peter, to the point of annoying Peter.
He'd be back in his old rotund body.
And he also would have become the new leader of the Fantastic Four, replacing Mr. Fantastic in a new series (keep in mind this was around the time that Marvel was doing fuck-all with F4).
Camden Barnes
How many Spider-men do we need (in the same dimension/time period/etc.)? Even Miles was one too many. Give every character their own name. Octopus is a fine name.
Evan Fisher
I would like him to sort of flop between the two by constantly trying to live up to Peter's example and constantly failing.
Carter Smith
Just make both clones fight to the dead that will be resolved in a phone call poll
Justin Williams
I love the Octopus! And although I'm starting to like "Elliot"'s looks, I wouldn't mind him having to try all this while still being regular-looks Otto.
Dominic Ross
They should just bring Carolyn Trainer at that point.
Xavier Turner
Honestly he should just become the new Jackal.
Andrew Walker
Lucas Johnson
I hate every single fucking thing to do with modern Otto and Slott's raging boner for him.
Julian Ross
Asher Hall
Oh I feel you as well, I'm torn because the current Superior book is good/solid, but my heart's with old school chunky schemer Ock. I wouldn't have minded him burying the hatchet and going back to being a sciebtis under Alchemax/whoever employ and occasionally having to team-up with Spidey should the situation call for it (Norman never sleeps). But I guess until some cosmic being slaps him into his old self so a new writer can do their spin on the character, we'll have to wait.
Brandon Wilson
I love Superior Spidey but I love Super Doc Ock's costume. Tough call.
Alexander Jenkins
Anyone got more fanart of the Ock costume, or just regular Otto fanart? I don't have enough of him.
Evan Moore
Superior Octopus was a waste of a fantastic suit. He should have used it longer. Even still, I think the thing that irks me the most about him going back to being SSM is that we now have three people in 616 actively claiming the Spider-Man name. It's kind of a mess.
Grayson Peterson
I figure Tolliver will eventually get arrested for all his past crimes and get put in some kind of Thunderbolts book in the Octopus costume.
Aiden James
I would make Otto go back to his former self,and then finally put his ego aside and build himself up as a hero or at least a benefactor after having a long heartfelt talk with Parker. Both characters actually learning from the other.
Kinda like JJJ right now. But less goofy.
Kayden Watson
I'm planning on writing an e-mail saying how much I like the Octopus costume and wish we'd see it again. I don't think it'd make big waves but in the letter pages of the SupSpidey other people have also expressed this sentiment, so I'm hoping a steady drop pierces the stone here.
Evan Murphy
Thunderbolts Octopus trying to reconcile with Spidey and his wrongdoings would be really sweet.
Oliver Robinson
That issue was fucking great. I know Otto went back to the spider gimmick because of branding but I really wish The Superior Octopus stayed
I also wouldn’t mind this happening either. If Otto is committed to being a hero/spider, he could have a rogue female clone take up the Dr Octopus mantle
Cooper Clark
In the current ASM is a (the?) Lady Ock in villain groupshots, but with a red/black/gold colour scheme. So maybe Ms. Trainer rolled out of her coma.
Gavin Evans
He's still a narcissistic asshole hero, which I enjoy
Isaac Sanchez
I miss the octopus tentacles, they could emote and animate a scene by interacting with things, the spider-legs are pretty boring in comparison.
Hunter Price
The spider legs seem less versatile too. Plus old suit had ink shooters. Fucking ink shooters on his wrist! I love that
Liam Russell
Being Doc Ock instead of another Spider-Man is okay with me.
Cameron Sanchez
Wyatt Williams
I like the superior octopus costume, but I understand that Spider-Man as a name sells more. Maybe Superior Octopus could be a super villain alter-ego he uses to infiltrate criminal organizations for data.
Dominic Richardson
This guy needs a tactical lab coat and a Starllord Set of goggles. That's all.these tights are too much. Have him install skull vibranium and a healing factor so he doesn't have to wear a mask.
Aaron Carter
True on all your points. Reddit gold.
Bentley Perry
No, shut up
Kayden Miller
Superior octopus costume looks good with a trench coat.
Lincoln Bell
I like the Nightshift and all, but I wish that Otto was working with Stunner and Lady Ock
Chase Harris
Nah. I like seeing the whole twunktopus.
Cameron Powell
I flat out adore this getup. It looks good even with ramosart.
David Wood
Too many spiders but we all know it's the name that sells and that's likely why they had him go back.
Parker Hall
Plus viewable face and symbols shifted to look like a 3 piece suit.
Aaron Wood
>not ever villain needs to be redeemed and become an anti hero
Nine times out of ten, it doesn't stick and they go back to being bad guys. It's always refreshing to see a bad guy turn good and actually stay good.
Luke Taylor
What I find funny is amazing using the superior run in its legacy count but then superior doing that as well
Adrian Cook
Joseph Stewart
Andrew Reyes
Anti Villain all the way.
Otto was always full of himself, now he thinks he is doing while master planning shit? Sounds good to me.
We already got like 3 Spidey Anti-Heroes, let’s leave the villains be.
Nathaniel Richardson
Zachary Russell
Nicholas Bennett
Noah Rivera
Nicholas Reed
I really can't decide what kind of tentacle look is the best. The classic three fingers on stumb, three claws on stump, the more organic designs, the thickness of the tentacles... there's so many good design opportunities in Doc Ock.
Thomas Gray
Ock was always trenching.
Jace Richardson
> forever under my care
Peter better phone him about her cancer soon.
Jackson Phillips
I'd prefer he keeps the superior Ock look AND that he keeps being a villain.
Bentley Hernandez
There's already so many fit super-characters that I miss Otto being a middle-aged fat guy with a mushroom cut.
Michael Walker
They could revamp him to strong-fat, as he was in some of his depictions. Shit, strongfat and a slightly more flattering haircut with non-obscuring glasses would already do wonders for him.
Charles Phillips
those are Thesis and antithesis
I want a new Synthesis, Hawthorne is neat he can design it.