How come King Of The Hill gets a lot of hate for being "poorly animated"? Even when someone praises the show they dock points for the cartoon being poorly animated.
How come King Of The Hill gets a lot of hate for being "poorly animated"...
Aiden Ortiz
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Aaron Thompson
Ryan King
the animation's right where it should be for the early 90s sitcom. remember, it was just that unfunny cartoon on before the simpsons. now its a way of life.
Owen Baker
Literally not one time have I ever heard this. Only heard it for Family Guy and NuSinpsons.
Nicholas Kelly
>Poorly animated
I honestly rarely think of it in terms of animation due to its subdued nature in the first place. Though I'm half convinced people mean artstyle whenever they say animation.
Parker Gonzalez
I think it's this a lot of the time, using "animation" as shorthand for "art style I don't like."
Also as far as I remember the first season WAS kind of poorly animated, and also had noticeably different character designs for a lot of the cast. But then it starts looking better by the second season and the characters were slightly redesigned to the looks they kept for the rest of the series as well. It's possible some people just let that first impression color what they think of the entire rest of the show.
I think it looks fine. I think the deliberately mundane nature of the show means most of the time they really couldn't GET too crazy with the animation anyway, but I don't think there was anything noticeably bad about the animation it did have, at least not by TV cartoon standards.
Cameron Jones
I've heard this complaint levied at the Simpsons, South Park and ESPECIALLY Seth's work, but never to KoTH.
is right. The show doesn't really have that many moments where it can get crazy, and that was mostly because of how it depicted mundane life in a mostly sleepy little town unlike its contemporaries which were getting wackier and zanier.
Adam Wood
I think you have to look at it from the era it reigned. Think about the cartoons that either premiered or were still airing new episodes during that period, this would include shows like:
>The Powerpuff Girls
>Animaniacs
>Pinky and the Brain
>Ed Edd n Eddy
>Courage the Cowardly Dog
>Batman Beyond
>Spongebob Squarepants
>The Fairly Odd Parents
When people say KotH is "poorly animated" I'm guessing they're actually saying "not as animated as these other cartoons". The thing is KotH uses a very realistic artstyle that tries to make the characters and world as close to life as they can get, something those other cartoons aren't aiming for with how they look and move.
It's kinda like how people try to point out Steven Universe's poor production qualities and conflate it with bad animation. They're not wrong, it's just not the right argument nor is it a real problem with the show.
Matthew Barnes
>Mission Hill
Colton James
they mean it needs to look like something from CalArts to be a cartoon
William Ross
Needs more soft curves and inverted apple cores
Sebastian Smith
This show fucking sucked
It felt like something out of PBS
Sebastian Stewart
Who is calling KotH poorly animated? It had great animation.
Benjamin Cooper
This show is goat. The comedy is timeless and the animation has a ton of attention payed to it. Naysayers are synths
Wyatt Morgan
You joke with the soyboy wojak, but the only people I know who don't like KOTH are overweight, gender-confused Tumblrinas.
Cooper Adams
KotH is cool just for avoiding the sitcom dad stereotype and having a Southern conservative as the main character and portrayed as a human being.
Carter Bennett
I’ve never once heard someone say this
Jacob White
They actually mean they want it to look like anime. Any time you here anyone complaining about the art style of a well drawn well animated show, chances are good they're also a weeb
Bentley Young
It premiered in 1997.
Josiah Peterson
It's from 90's America-of course it's poorly animated. We shipped out all of our shit 80's onward for quality animattion on tv shows.
Asher Cooper
This. is way too organic to be a calarts show. If anything, your pic kind of looks like eddsworld
Owen Phillips
In later seasons, the show is actually really nicely animated for a TV budget with an extremely detailed and not design-friendly art style. Characters move so naturally and in a subtle way, you don't even notice that some character doing a mundane task like paperwork while Hank is talking is not a looped animation and treated like acting.
Adrian Williams
>How come King Of The Hill gets a lot of hate for being "poorly animated"?
I have never heard that, and neither have you.
Luke Butler
>When people say KotH is "poorly animated" I'm guessing they're actually saying "not as animated as these other cartoons"
Truth. In a show like KotH they didn't get to draw a lot of scenes like pic related, but when they did it looked good.
Jayden Reyes
>In later seasons
that's the 2nd episode of season 2
the show always had great animation.
significantly more animated than other animated sitcoms, and with a lot more consistency and realism.
Julian Gonzalez
>King Of The Hill
>gets a lot of hate
does it?
the only koth threads I click on are about ballbusting
Mason Collins
I just remember that season 1 was kind of stiff and janky and I wasn't sure how much later until the budget picked up, so I just said "later seasons" to be safe. Though, I might be remembering that the characters were just not as polished in the drawings for season 1 instead of the animation itself not being good.
Nicholas Thompson
Jace Bell
I just came into this thread to point out that Melinda a 9/10 hottie. That's it. Well, that and the lame pun.
Jayden Collins
>Why do [insert large group of people here] [insert opinion that nobody holds]?
Joshua Watson
You mean Zombie Eddsworld. It isn't the same without Edd.
Jaxson Lopez
It went a bit shit at the end but almost all American sitcoms do.
Christian Nguyen
Final episode was great though. There was probably more character building for Kahn in it than in almost the rest of the entire show.
Henry Baker
Because it was an MTV cartoon and they have a reputation for being really, really cruddy-looking. King of the Hill was the best of the bunch, but it's hard to shake off being associated with the likes of Beavis & Butthead or Mr. Pickles.
Nathan Mitchell
The full King of the Hill movie clip got uploaded by the Will Rogers Institute, BTW>
Dylan Butler
It's not poorly animated, it's competently animated and devoid of personality. This is by design. Everything's done by the same Korean studios, and they do things to spec. (The situation is sort of analogous to machining in China. Chinese import products have a bad reputation as unreliable, but that's only because we're paying them the least amount possible for the lowest passable precision.)
The only recent prime time show to have any remotely fun animation was the second season of Golan the Insatiable.
Austin Carter
Who's calling it poorly animated? I've never seena anyone even bring up it's animation.
Brayden Myers
Awesome!
Cooper Thompson
this is abysmal, how dare you call this good on a cartoon forum
Matthew Carter
Zachary Garcia
>It felt like something out of PBS
Wut
Ryan Harris
>Chinese import products have a bad reputation as unreliable, but that's only because we're paying them the least amount possible for the lowest passable precision
And because their escalators eat people.
Lucas Carter
I didn't say good, I said it was "remotely fun." That, at the very least, looked like it passed through human hands.
That's a price they were willing to pay to catch up. They got exactly what they paid for.
With animation, we get what we pay for too. Actually, I should rephrase that. The animators are putting out work commensurate with what they get paid.
We still pay a lot for animation, but that money gets passed around to many middle parties who siphon off a bit each time, without actually contributing anything to the product. We're paying for a lot of bureaucracy.
Julian Cruz
King of the Hill was well animated. It was just animated in a more subtle and realistic fashion compared to most other cartoons (including other fox ones) that prefer exaggerating facial expressions and body language.
Kevin Diaz
Would KotH have the same effect if it was live-action instead of animated?
Blake Morales
Only someone like John KKK would hate King of the Hill for being poorly animated
Jason Gray
They're confusing the show's art style with the animation quality.
Christian Hernandez
No because A) it relied on it being a cartoon to give it its charm and for the characters to have the exact properties needed at any given time and B) some of the shit that happens in KotH was only possible at the time in cartoon form, like Dale being covered in fire ants or the several tornadoes Hank fights over the series.
Wyatt Moore
>How come King Of The Hill gets a lot of hate for being "poorly animated"?
u wot m8
stop makin' up shit
Jaxon Peterson
Carter Lopez
*Ahem*
Luis Edwards
At least it had the integrity to actually end. I get why these successful shows stay on, but Christ
Jaxon Martinez
I've literally never seen anyone have this complaint.
Jackson Smith
How come there isn't any good porn of King of the Hill?
Aiden Young
Andrew Morgan
Hank needs to see every super
Gabriel Williams
King of the Hill was poorly animated? I've seen every episode and honestly the animation got better overtime.
Chase Howard
>How come King Of The Hill gets a lot of hate for being "poorly animated"?
It does? I've never heard this
Samuel Baker
Kino
Evan Turner
Did they actually air King of the Hill on Fox Kids
Gabriel Cruz
Kinda? The fox kids block ended around 10 or 11 and immediately right after they'd play KOH. So Hank and Norrin were actual neighbors.
Mason Kelly
Holy shit. Thanks a lot for providing a full clip.
David Ortiz
I think it's because it's so deliberately un-cartoony. It was a show rule to never have the characters shown in a way a real camera couldn't have shot.
Kayden Miller
"Just Another Manic Kahn-Day" isn't the final episode, "To Sirloin with Love" is. en.m.wikipedia.org
It was a Fox show, not an MTV one. I cant even imagine MTV airing KotH, considering their demographic.
Logan Edwards
Not gonna check the thread to see if this was already posted
I just know this is what you were looking for op
Jacob Hall
Are these the ramblings of a horny autistic ESL?
David Campbell
Why is nearly every wiki page a grammatical shit show?
Nathaniel Kelly
This shouldn't of made me laugh as a hard as it did
Juan Peterson
Well I mean you image is from one of their much later episodes.
Season 1 didn't seem as good.
Grayson Butler
Of course it doesn’t look good. The only time cartoons look good is when they’re anime.
Jordan James
What's with the latest anti weeb brigade lately on Yea Forums
Justin Evans
First minute of the series is a panning shot of the neighborhood with insects and humming birds zooming across the screen. This couldn't happen in live action unless it was CGI and they would have needed a helicopter and tons of permits and extras to film a neighborhood from a bird's eye few.
Eli James
>Lately
Yea Forums has always been one of the more anti-weeb boards. Even before Yea Forums and /pol/ brought in a bunch of normies.
Liam Richardson
Just saw that clip again, doesn't look like the "camera" is at a very high altitude. Could probably be done with a drone and I doubt a camera drone would require cutting through much red tape at all since hobbyists use them all the time. You're right about the extras though, a lot of scenes throughout the series would require a shitload of them(looking at you, "Hank takes a bunch of grandmas to spring break" episode).
Evan Nguyen
This was 1996. No commercial drones yet.
Andrew Allen
There seems to be one autist/shitposter who says "The only time cartoons look good is when they’re anime" lately
Lucas Ross
Oh we're talking if it had been made back in the day. Yeah, there's no way it would happen, at least not shot per shot.
Evan Gonzalez
get off the computer boomhauer
Ian Turner
I've never seen that complaint then again I've never really seen anyone bring up the animation quality of the show. King of the Hill doesn't have anything about the animation that sticks out in a good or bad way for me it's perfectly serviceable which is fine because the show is a slice of life comedy where most of the humor derives from the dialogue and character's personalities rather than whacky moments going on.
Gabriel Ortiz
>It's a Connie's feet episode
The best kind.
Joseph Reyes
Because it was the era of Beevis and Butthead trash animation. Terribly terribly trash. Along with things like Ren and Stimpy. So much trash and terrible looking shit.
They only did it because they were cheapskates.
Benjamin Foster
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