I don't usually "shill" but this video is really interesting

I don't usually "shill" but this video is really interesting

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Most of that information regarding hannah barbara was out there in the wild already

>tldr.
>Hanna-Barbera got absorbed into Cartoon Network after it got its ass kicked in the ratings by toy commercials ruring the 80s and early 90s

To be honest I never liked Hanna Barbera, even when I was a kid I found all of them boring.

Same, i only watched Scooby-Doo as a kid.

even scooby doo was fucking terrible.

>Hanna Barbera
>Ever good
Tom and Jerry were kino but they killed TV animation

Johnny Quest was awesome

>they killed TV animation
they created TV animation

Who DID like Hanna Barbera?

Yeah you are completely right user. I never understood why it was so popular.

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This. They set the standard. Plus, the competition either couldn't afford to make better animation, or they were so shitty they make Hanna Barbera's cartoons look like animation masterpieces.

>I don't usually "shill" but
Heh.

Someone somewhere used to love her.

>All these fools saying they never liked Hannah Barbara

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I liked Birdman. The smurfs and snorks were a huge thing in my country.

ITT underages

>the radical squadron

yikes

he didn't say the disney afternoon

Nice. THIS is why I subscribed to Saberspark, for analytical videos on channels and studios, not for Nostalgia Critic -like reviews with a monotone voice.

>Most of that information regarding hannah barbara was out there in the wild already

That's why research exists, user. To correlate that information that is out in the wild and mend it into something linear and comprehensible.

You're not allowed to dislike Hanna Barbera. We wouldn't have Yea Forums today if it wasn't for them.

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HB deserves credit in a lot of fields that they sometimes don't receive, but they certainly do deserve 100% of the shit they're given (especially with the Scooby clones, though to be fair, a good number of the ones people blame HB for were actually produced by Ruby-Spears).

HB at least dabbled in a lot of different genres with their animation. Not as often as they could have, and the stuff they did outside of the Children's Ghetto was rarely as successful as Scooby Clone #231, but the fact that they gave it a go is a respectable endeavor.

They tried primetime family sitcoms (The Flintstones), primetime ADULT sitcoms (Wait Til Your Father Gets Home), pulp action (Jonny Quest), their own roster of superheroes (most notably Space Ghost, which in its last string of episodes actually dabbled in serialized continuity and crossovers), soap operatic sci-fi drama (Sealab 2020), and yeah, while the luster of Scooby-Doo has paled thanks to their own in-house imitators, Scooby-Doo Where Are You being a horror/mystery series for kids was entirely novel at the time.

They DID try. They just fell back on copying their own successes rather than refine the more experimental series that didn't work the first time but had potential.

>We wouldn't have Yea Forums today if it wasn't for them.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

I don't know why people keep talking about scooby doo. The Flintstones was the real groundshaker. Every other show was just filler.

I watched Smurfs and Snorks pretty actively. Also their Pac-man cartoon. I used to really like GoBots: Battle of the Rocklords and Jetsons meet the Flintstones

I can appreciate what Hanna-Barbera did for the industry (or more like what came after) but I don't have to like it

Didn't HB also make Cartoon Planet which went off to create Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, Dexter's Laboratory, Billy & Mandy, Johnny Bravo, and other CN classics? Or am I being retarded and not remembering things correctly.

>What did the Romans ever do for us?

>Didn't HB also make Cartoon Planet which went off to create Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, Dexter's Laboratory, Billy & Mandy, Johnny Bravo, and other CN classics? Or am I being retarded and not remembering things correctly.

You're thinking of What a Cartoon, which was the new talent showcase that CN did through Hanna Barbera. Cartoon Planet was that package series of WB and HB shorts with host segments by Space Ghost, Brak and Zorak (that eventually got repackaged into just the host segments without the cartoon reruns).

But yeah, that was in the waning years of HB, before they got folded in WB Animation. They were trying a lot of new things on CN and got pretty innovative. Didn't save them, though.

>reads of basic ass wikipedia info that anyone could read in half the time it took him to overstate it in the video
>doesn't go into any interesting or esoteric detail besides this really spartan overview, glosses over a ton of interesting stuff, doesn't really even comment on anything that went down with the studio that wasn't already self apparent

God I fucking hate videos like these, it makes me want to make a better one. Fucker didn't even mention Alex Toth, or any of the actual artists on any hannah barbera shows, just more dickriding on the famous CN creators.

Thanks for the warning. You just saved me 20 minutes.

I thought it being a Saber video was enough

I did.
It ws great as the first cartoon of the morning in the 90’s.

He's background noise while doing other shit

This fails to mention the most important aspect. That Cartoon Network is treated as a distinct entity from Warner Animation or Hanna Barbera by the parent company. And Cartoon Network has always sabotaged their shows in order to promote Cartoon Network originals.

Facts

This.
After Dexter, Johnny Bravo and C&C spun off from What a Cartoon, Cartoon Network didn't give 2 shits anymore about HB shows and wanted mostly Cartoon Cartoons.
Nowadays, CN still treats shows from their sister studio Warner Bros. Animation like shit, unless they're cash cows like Teen Titans Go.

Why did they bury Looney Toons then?
HB might have been an "outsider" studio but Looney Toons is a Warner original

CN has to pay licensing fees to air WB Animation cartoons and DC Comics cartoons. Yes, even though CN, WB and DC are all owned by the same corporation, they have to pay licensing fees to each other to use their IPs or media.

It is more cost effective for CN to air their own programming because then they don't have to pay licensing fees. So WB and DC shows will get brief half-season airings at 1am on CN or Boomerang, then quickly disappear, with the remainder of the episodes getting burned off in international markets.

The reason CN airs 14 hours of TTG a day is because it is literally the cheapest possible alternative. They produce the show in-house and only have to pay a single licensing fee to DC for use of the characters.

>subsiderary

>even though CN, WB and DC are all owned by the same corporation, they have to pay licensing fees to each other to use their IPs or media.
This is why we can't have goo things

How retarded is Warner/AT&T for letting that kind of shit happen?

Makes me wish Ted Turner never got cucked by them

>They produce the show in-house
CN doesn't produce TTG. It's Warner bros. animation

>I don't usually "shill"
Why break a good streak?

It's done to fool investors. Having different departments of the company pay licensing fees to each other does not increase the company's profits. It's just the same dollars circulating around the company. However if you SEGMENT it and never show the investors the big picture, it looks like each individual department is earning money via licensing fees.

Its frustrating for the people in those different wings of the company who have to budget that shit, but it keeps the stock prices up.

>Circulating money throughout different segments of a company to make it look like they are earning money from selling licenses and keep stock prices up.
That sounds like legalized fraud.

NO! NOOOO!!!

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW! I CAN STILL SEE HER IN MY DREAMS

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Kids honestly cared more about the newer Cartoons Cartoons than the stale HB

>Hannah Barbara has fans
Huh

*good
FTFY

Hanna Barbera cartoons are one of those things that’s mostly shitty, but a charming sort of shitty. Like, the shows, the animation, the jokes are all not very good, but in a way, that makes me like them. Maybe it’s just nostalgia for back when they’re all CN had, but still.

Also they have some hot girls. For me, it’s Rosemary.

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I loved a lot of their stuff growing up.
>Hong Kong Phooey
>Jabber Jaw
>Birdman
>Herculoids
>Space Ghost

90's HB was insane.

>The Halloween Tree
>What a Cartoon Show
>Dexter's Lab
>Powerpuff Girls

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Dooley master race reporting in.

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It is. Also see "Hollywood Accounting." The money people in the art and entertainment worlds don't see it as a way to make nice things, but as a way to move money around, screw investors, and hide the ball from the tax man.
Why nobody goes to jail for it like the Enron guys who did the exact same thing is an eternal question.

They did create Tom and Jerry before entering the TV business, so they at least have something kino to their names

In my country Barbera is pretty loved, characters like Muttley are recognized by every person, but I fucking hate every single Barbera show, every maybe Scooby Doo but I only watched it when there wasn't anything better on TV.

But Barbera used to be pretty good, HB T&J is a big classic and I fucking loved it when I was a kid, so what happened?

Wait a minute, What a cartoon, Dexter and Powerpuff Girls were from HB? I've always thought they were from CN.

More accurately, they're referring to 50s - 70s HB.

HB is the closest we will ever get to LITERALLY Waifu Generator

Name ONE(1) woman HB has made that is not wiafu tier.

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They were a co-production with Cartoon Network. So was Cow & Chicken.

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>Watching shows
>Because the """waifus"""

Only Mexicans like Top Cat, Pedro.

Knew a girl in college who told me she was into cartoons and wanted to be an animator yet her only source of reference was Hanna Barbara. And not even a lot of their library, just Top Cat.

Always hated their crappy cartoons and it's their fault AND Disney why Western Animation is shitty infantile trash.

>Be animator
>Learn from HB
Jesus that's like learning to swim from Rodeny King

>tldr

How do you read a video?

Basically this, though 50s Hanna-Barbera (Early Yogi Bear and the Flintstones) was alright and 90s Hanna Barbera (2 Stupid Dogs and Dumb and Dumber) was kino

60s to early 80s H-B wasn't bad because of the animation, but the writing

I loved both CN & HB as a kid. I liked Scooby-Doo, Flinstones, The Jestons, Johnny Bravo and a lot more. I'd flip back and forth as a kid. Though I'm not gonna pretend most of HB content holds up. But even as a kid no one introduced me HB and I had no prior nostalgia for those shows. Eventually I stopped watching though.

the 'RUINED' in the tile is a bit clickbaity, especially when the actual video discusses the slow demise of a company that was bought over by Warner and subsumed within Cartoon Network

aside from that, pretty interesting to discover that for a time HB had 80% of the children's programming on TV; though it seems quantity > quality was the order of the day

>never understood why it was so popular
there was no competition at the time

It was popular because Hanna Barbara dominated the animation industry and it was the best of the trash. Their competition was a bunch of sitcoms, REALLY shitty superhero shorts, and other shows with the same mystery solving gimmick but worse (Jabberjaw wasn't bad).

Scooby Doo was the only show that at the time took itself seriously. This is different than being a serious show. It had actual effort put towards the pacing of episodes and plotlines. It wasn't a quality product by any means but you could watch it without feeling like a fucking moron for doing so.

This. A lot of their shows aged like dirt. They were only successful because they pretty much had a monopoly on Saturday morning cartoons. This allowed them to be able to pump out any cheaply made cartoon no matter the quality. This became apparent during the 60's and 70's, especially the 70's.
>90% of their shows are "Group of teens go on adventures with their animal sidekick*

Is AT&T keeping that practice? I thought they were changing it up because they were folding departments together.

Cartoon Network and Adult Swim are directly under Warner Bros. now. AT&T has made a big deal about breaking down the barriers between divisions.

i dunno i think dirt ages far better than you're giving it credit for here

jetsons and yogi bear were alright.

never got into scooby doo or the flintstones though

Let us not forget the time they managed to successfully license one of Japan's biggest stars. No guessing on who I'm talking about.

>CN's Scooby Doo weekend marathon

The nightmare of my childhood
A whole weekend without watching cartoons
and CN made often those awful marathons

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Without watching the video:
1) Parent groups dictating content
2) Cable TV forcing nearly all children's content into containment channels (CN, Disney, Nick, etc.)

I did, but I'm old.

Nice documentary about the process of making those awful cartoons

youtube.com/watch?v=BBKoY6RTS6Q

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most of this is common knowledge for someone who isn't a newfag

I liked how stylish it was, it had all these retro-futuristic evil laboratories and stuff. I feel like checking it out again but I'm afraid it won't be as good as the intro.
youtube.com/watch?v=SIhEpjnaNlo

Why are people too dumb to understand that HB simply didn't have the money to experiment? TV cartoons have a lower budget than theatrical shorts, and need to follow a strict deadline. HB is simply better than Filmation and UPA in limited animation.

They love cartoons, but they don't want to piss of the moral guardians. Look at what the Hays Code did to Fleischer Studios

Their show aged badly (especially the animation), and for every successful show they had fucking 8 shitty clones of it.

>they created TV animation
>they created the stigma animation is a children's medium that can only exist to distract and eventually grow out of
>they made their products so cheap and half assed it became standard for the rest of the industry for generations to come, with most actual quality being outsourced to other countries.
Nah, fuck them

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Isn't that the same guy who thought Animal Farm was American propaganda and the film was the original?

This. HB is the definition of a mixed bag, with half of their shit being absolute GOAT stuff or irredeemable dogshit

Cartoon Network Studios was originally a division of Hanna-Barbera Cartoons, Inc., where the crew would focus on original CN content. Shows like Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken and the PPG, but also the pilots of KND and Grim & Evil were all produced in the division.

After WB Animation absorbed HB Cartoons in 2001, CN Studios spun off and became its own studio, where all CN shows would be produced.

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A man of culture, I see

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>Why are people too dumb to understand that HB simply didn't have the money to experiment?
But... that post you quoted include a list of the shows HB experimented with and complimented them for it. Who are you mad at?

When CN did events with original bumpers that formed an ongoing story, their Scooby marathons were pretty great. The Scooby-Doo Project and Night of the Living Doo, etc.

It was when they just decided "fuck it" and did Scooby Universe on the weekend, rerunning Scooby shows for 6 hours a day without any original bumper content to make the reruns bearable... Yeah, that was shit.

Ya, I was indifferent to Scooby Doo before this. I'd watch i if I'd nothing better to do but this marathon made me actively hate it

H-B served a specific purpose in time, then as the animation renaissance began, they became obsolete and died out. The end.

i think the main issue was the tyranical tv regulations and censorship, plus that idiotic trend that forced shows to be ''educational'' and the cartoon commercials of the 80s.

that's what killed american animation to experiment with ''controversial and innapropiette'' content like japanese animation did since the late 60s.

we could have american cartoons that told stories like these animes

Ace wo Nerae
Attack n1
Ashita no Joe
Rose of Versailles
Honeybee Hutch/ Demetan the frog
Mazinger Z
Remi (the original)
Heidi
Candy Candy
Ninja Kamui

And those are all the shows i can think of. they actually used animation as a medium, not as a genre.

Technically anons not wrong. HB did to TV animation what Disney did to theatrical. They set the bar. Not too high, not too low but they placed it like 5 feet over to the right. So now it's kinda awkward when it's time to raise the bar but it's still 5 feet to the right.

I am SO glad I'm not the only person to feel this way.

This also sort of paved the way for shows like Spongebob, Johnny Test and Teen Titans go to swallow schedules whole.

Yer all really upset, but Hanna Barbera did experiment with different genres all the time and even went into risqué stuff in terms of both violence and sexuality. Jonny Quest was crazy violent for its time and got in trouble with censors after it moved from primetime to Saturday mornings. Wait Til Your Father Gets Home was 100% not at all for kids; I remember CN and Boomerang only reran it at 1am because of its subject matter. Sealab 2020 was boring as SHIT, but it was definitely a drama series and didn't make concessions on that end of things.

Hanna Barbera, even with the BS&P shackles placed around them, experimented with content and concepts whenever they could. When they started developing for cable exclusively in the 90s and got to REALLY let loose, that's when we got awesome shit like Real Adventures of Jonny Quest, Swat Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs, all of which gave no fucks about violence of innuendo (2 Stupid Dogs got away with a lot of the latter).

Amidst a sea of forgettable copycat crap, they did what they could whenever they could to try and create something innovative or different. It never caught on, but they gave it a shot.

Compared to the other early made-for-TV cartoons (Paddy the Pelican, Crusader Rabbit, Clutch Cargo), early H-B shows like Huckleberry Hound had decent, appealing animation. Even Rocky and Bullwinkle was pretty damn ropey compared to say, The Flintstones.

Even after Hanna-Barbera went to pot in the 70's and 80's, they weren't as stiff or as reliant on stock footage as Filmation, nor were they as goddamn cheap in their every single aspect as DIC.

I'm pretty sure most of these anime you mentioned were co-produced with some European country (either France or Italy) as it was common back then

>nor were they as goddamn cheap in their every single aspect as DIC.

DiC had a run between, like, 1986 and 1988 where the shows they produced looked every bit as good as what Sunbow and their competitors were putting out. Then in 1989 I dunno wtf happened, but damn, they hit a quality control wall super hard and everything they did looked like trash instantaneously.

>demetan, Hutch, Mazinger, Ashita no Joe, Ace wo nerae, Attack n1, Rose of Versailles, Candy, Kamui
>co-produced

Nope, you child, and just cause some of em were based of non japanese literature or folk, they were still all done by japanese people, what you are thinking is those co-productions in the 80s for american markets, like Misterious cities of gold

>Yer all really upset, but Hanna Barbera did experiment with different genres all the time and even went into risqué stuff in terms of both violence and sexuality

Excusie what? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how many times do you dropped on your head?

Hey Famicom, be careful you don't give yourself away by mentioning TMS or Hamtaro. We're watching you. Anyway, carry on with your sperg-out.

good for you, i am not famicunt, dont false flag.

like i get it, yougot very triggered when people bring comparisons that Yea Forums doenst talk about, but cmon.

That might be the smartest decision they made, but it'll depend on results.

Being so crippled with autism that you cannot ignore any post that accuses you of being Famicom is one of the many tells which prove you are, indeed, Famicom. So with that in mind: Fuck off, TMS Fag.

>try to have a thread about the history of Hanna-Barbera
>Famicom comes in and shits it up with his bullshit "research" because he thinks he's an animation historian

Oh well. Abandon thread.

Reminder that Tms is the best animated studio in history and that Yea Forums only pretends to hate it just to be contrat'rian

GOD I LOVE HAMTARO!
I LOVE IT SO FUCKIN MUCH!
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

god you fucking falseflaggers, no wonder this place has turned to shit! not like in 2014.

AND I AM NOT FAMICOM YOU FUCKING RETARDS

21 minutes
who has time for this shit

Hannah Barbera created anime

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The animators for Darkstalkers studied Scooby Doo and Tom and Jerry when they were creating the sprite animations

>they created the stigma animation is a children's medium that can only exist to distract and eventually grow out of
No they didn't. The Flintstones was the first primetime animated show ever. Jonny Quest was pushing the amount of violence and death that could be in a children's program. Scooby Doo was considered actually scary in the early 70s to tv executives.

They actually tried to make cartoons for all ages until abysmal Saturday Morning Cartoon laws came into place and they had to neuter themselves.

Scooby would only play for two or three days at most for once a year, you can't compare that to Spongebob and TTG taking over entire schedules for years.

>my post was false flagged and deleted.
>they really tought i was that guy

or there was a mistaken IP, dear lord Yea Forums gets more dumb every time!

I think it was that time that Andy Heyward bought out Jean Chalopin shares and become the largest owner of DiC.

I hard to believe that DiC made The Mysterious Cities of Gold and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors and then later made their version of GI Joe.

Honestly, if your a 12 year old kid in the mid 80's and you can watch GI Joe: Real American Hero or the umpteenth iteration of Scooby Doo, what is the more exciting show to watch?

>just Top Cat.
Was she Mexican?

I've grown to appreciate it a lot more as I grew older.

When I was a kid (I'm 26) the only HB products I liked where
>The Flintstones
>Fantastic Four (1967-1970)
>Super Friends
>Laff-A-Lympics
>The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo
>Jonny Quest/ The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest
>SWATCats

>Nothing at all,Nothing at all

You don't appreciate how good a HB Scooby clone is until you've seen the Filmation Archie cartoons.

youtube.com/watch?v=1wOS1A26VMc

youtube.com/watch?v=5XNfutZ-EU8

I really get now how a whole generation of people grew up thinking cartoons where just plain stupid.

Classic Scooby Doo was always lame to me. Ironically, I actually enjoyed and loved those Scrappy Doo(the most hated character in the series apparently) episodes, maybe because I remember only rarely seeing them and just mainly seeing the classic episodes running, but I honestly didn't like Scooby Doo for a long time until the newer runs of it.

Ugh, you're bringing me back to some hard times man. These newer generation kids are lucky that they don't have to suffer this type of stuff. Imagine being a kid, no school for the weekend, and all that's on CN is a fucking Scooby Doo marathon. It was some hair ripping shit for me.

UPA was experimental until they were forced to do TV Magoos.

Filmation was just fucking lazy. Not even HB used that many extreme closeups of character faces.

You know, it always bugged me. How is it that the shit in the Filmation Archie is considered "normal" in the confines of the show (think , where Jughead paints a door on a canvas, only to be pied in the face, or Hot Dog's existance), but whenever weird shit happens in AWM, it's treated as the weird shit it's supposed to be.

>tfw the parody was real all along

youtube.com/watch?v=pl2OzTjSpeA

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What ruined Hanna Barbera was making horse shit for decades. It was derivative of itself, which is a fucking accomplishment.

This. They've got a super unappealing art style, even for their time. They get bragging rights for "being the first to do x" but that doesn't mean shit.

Around that time they launched their own animation studio to outsource work to, due to being cheaper.

Archie's Weird Mysteries was made by DIC decades later and actually had people who gave a shit.

I don't think anyone could argue that they take place in the same continuity.

Based Ted poster

This guy sounds smelly

I feel the need to post our based EroPharaoh

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Was she secretly a skunk girl that dressed as a human?
Knowing Hannah Barbera, that seems plausible

>13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo
Until Zombie Island, it was literally the best Scooby-Doo THING at the time. Gud taste.

TTG and Spongebob ya are on like every 2-3 hours or might of had a few half day blocks but this was a whole bank holiday of Scooby Doo. It was insanity

Tom and Jerry is the best thing they ever animated in fairness, that is actually the one HB cartoon that is great to learn animation from and a good show to learn animation from in general

shit taste

why do you think grown adults still watch cartoons?

>Why did they bury Looney Toons then?

They always have mistreated the Looney Tunes, a part from their defunct and forgotten June Bugs special

Nope. She looked like the most basic white nerd.

HB had some top tier super designs

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Alex Toth was a turbo sperg, but he was damn good at his job.

>liked Scooby-Doo because when I was sick at home it was always on with Tom and Jerry.
>best girl was Daphne
It’s a good feel

I wonder why DC barely touches the HB heroes. Space Ghost and Birdman would work extremely well with the DC universe

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Apparently some Warner Bros exec just had a meltdown and pulled all the Hanna Barbera titles from DC Comics because he didn't like the edgy and mature things the publisher was doing with the brands. DC even had to cancel a whole slew of HB titles they'd already solicited since the pull was so abrupt.

>tfw no Birdman and Hawkman interaction
>no Space Ghost and Martian Manhunter team up

Thundar was dope

I have a very strong nostalgia for them.

You’re kidding me? That’s legit sad, I’ve been loving those books.

In fairness, I think that's just Saberspark's naming gimmick.

Yeah, I mean look at . I really fucking doubt anyone likes Josie and the Pussycats outside of waifus. Basically, , sex is the only thing that sells.

We all know what really ruined Hanna-Barbera.

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Is this real?

Growing up mid 90s, HB was one of those relics were the weird campy shows came from and I only half knew what HB was, making it sorta mysterious.

Son, animation would still be a theater regulated novelty if Hanna-Barbera didn't streamline the process.

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That's true. I feel like at least 50% of the "Hanna-Barbera sucks" crowd in this thread have little comprehension of animation history.

TV budgets were never going to be as big as the theatrical budgets for the WB, Fleischer, MGM, Disney stuff. Disney didn't even get into doing television cartoon shows until the 80's because they thought the budget was unfeasible!

Hanna-Barbera shows are not that great and are formulaic, but compare the 60's Fantastic Four cartoon that H-B did with the 60's Spider-Man cartoon that Grantray-Lawrence Animation did with the other Marvel cartoons Grantray-Lawrence Animation did (the one where it was like they copied the panels). What's a really well-animated television cartoon during the 60's, Beany and Cecil? I think that lasted one season.

Alex Toth designs are legendary. Bunch of homos in here dissing HB joints.

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>They made him invisible for the mere purpose of cheap animation.

>That's true. I feel like at least 50% of the "Hanna-Barbera sucks" crowd in this thread have little comprehension of animation history.

One guy seems to be upset strictly because "it isn't like ANIME!" So that's the kinda crowd you're up against in this thread.

Hanna Barbera seemed to be getting a little better about things in their final years before shutting down and being bought by turner. Pirates of Dark Water and Swat Kats. It was at least a better try than their constant Flintstones and Scooby Doo rehashes, or terrible cartoon adaptation of some sitcom with a really lazy twist.

TV execs who liked incredibly cheap filler series that could coast on name recognition.

AT least their death throes were magnificent user.

>tfw we'll never have another season of swat kats or PoDW where they sail and/or fly or both off into the sunset with their waifu

That's because the Mexican dubs made it a lot better, just like what happened with pizza cats and the USA

>HB at least dabbled in a lot of different genres with their animation. Not as often as they could have, and the stuff they did outside of the Children's Ghetto was rarely as successful as Scooby Clone #231, but the fact that they gave it a go is a respectable endeavor.

What they tried was a goof effort, but how they did it was another story. Their random Scooby clones and sitcom adaptations were so incredibly half assed. You can tell they were invented on a whim in some office
>Laverne and Shirley....oh I dunno....in the army
>Charlie's Angels but...superheroes, moving on...
>Happy Days and...fuck, put them in space or something

I like how they wanted to make an animated sitcom but all they really did was add in a cartoon friend that was a clone of a previously existing HB character and stick them in some completely random setting, often which never fit. It like they had a short list of settings Space, Underwater, Teen Superhero, Ghost Adventures and recycled each and every show through the 70s in one of those.

In 2005 Warner wanted to sell huge DVD collections of Looney tunes shorts and had them removed from tv everywhere to accomplish this. ABC lost their 40 year long license to show them, Fox lost theirs, Nickeodeon and several other channels all had licensed to show various Looney tunes all dropped in this time period.

Wait Til Your Father Gets Home, the only truly "adult" animated sitcom HB ever did, is legit pretty funny. Kind of overlooked and I think more people should seek it out. I suppose what holds it down is the fact that there was absolutely positively NO reason for it to be animated. They wanted to do a grounded All in the Family style adult sitcom with no impossible hijinks or Great Gazoo type characters. And they made a good sitcom... but nothing that couldn't have been done every bit as well in live action.

I loved the racist neighbor that Tom Bosley hated in that show.

>You know, compared to you, the Grand Wizard of the KKK looks like a bleeding heart liberal.
>Yeah, I know. Why do you think I never joined?

I mean holy shit; to see a joke like that in a HB cartoon and rerun on CN in the 90s was pretty amazing as a kid (even if it was at 1am while I was waiting for Late Night Black and White to start).

Even then certain characters cost more than others. It cost more to have Wonder Woman and Flash in JLA/JLU in the early 00's than the rest of the cast.

They got very lazy and complacent after they started picking up some popular names. So the animation errors were every few seconds in every show, and the animation became really floaty and weird. Sonic AM, Where's Waldo, Sabrina, they were so filled with errors and shitty animation it looked like there was no direction or quality control whatsoever.

I never got just why Jughead sounded like an old woman in that show

I FUCKING HATE VIDEO ESSAYS, FUCKING STOP IT

>"I don't like [thing]!"

OK

It's rough watching through Real Ghostbusters because that show ran so long you start out with DiC at their prime and then just suddenly around season 5 it's like BAM! And the production quality of the show looks like absolute ass and you can barely tell its even the same series anymore.

Their run on G.I. Joe actually started out fairly promising with the Operation Dragonfire miniseries. There are even some decently good-looking episodes during the first part of the proper season 1. But then midway through season 1 its like DiC went bankrupt and it gets so bad. And all of season 2 looks like unwatchable shit; they even have to pad it out with clip shows to limp their way through.

You can make a drinking game out of the color errors in their shows. Every time hair is flesh tone, or an arm is a solid color, or the eyes are not white, whole character is colored blue, etc.

>"it isn't like ANIME!"

Anime literally wouldn't exist without Hanna-Barbera.

Their animation saving techniques made the 1963 Astro Boy anime possible.

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