How this "Darkseid Avatar" shit work? Is each Darkseid it's own person or they are all one single mind? How Many Darkseids exist? How was the original(multiversal) Darkseid born?
How this "Darkseid Avatar" shit work? Is each Darkseid it's own person or they are all one single mind...
Grayson Walker
Jaxon Green
Every universe has its own Darkseid but they're all just pieces of the true Darkseid that exists above the multiverse.
Nathan Gomez
>How this "Darkseid Avatar" shit work?
As an excuse for each time Darkseid jobbed.
>Is each Darkseid it's own person or they are all one single mind?
I'm gonna say they are all miniature copies of the original.
How Many Darkseids exist?
Logically, as many as there are universes in the Multiverse - so 52. Or 53, depending who you ask. Of course there are multiple Multiverses in the DC cluster now.
>How was the original(multiversal) Darkseid born?
Well -
First, there was only the Source. For an unknown time - perhaps aeons of aeons, perhaps only a nano-second - it was all that existed. This period is known as the First World.
Then, the Source created the universe, and at its heart an immense planet, much larger than the largest star, populated by titans now known as the Old Gods. For many billions of years, this godworld endured, until "There came a day when the Old Gods died". In their war, their immense world was ripped apart and exploded, causing a cosmic cataclysm which actually might be the Big Bang. It sent a wave of godly energy throughout the universe which changed whatever it touched, resulting in the birth of gods and superbeings, creating what is usually known as 'the Universe' as we know it, but which is also called 'The Third World'. Meanwhile, at the heart of the universe, the spinning disc of debris sank out of the bottom of the universe like a ball of hot iron through the ice of a lake, ending up outside of the universe proper in its own universe. The remains of the world of the Old Gods coalesced into two new worlds, which even together were much smaller, while the essences of the Old Gods divided into light and dark, good and evil, and gave rise to life on both worlds. The two planets are New Genesis and Apokolips and are naturally inhabited by people who, if they would enter the 'normal' universe without using a Boom Tube, would be giants; they are New Gods, and are ageless and super-powerful. Darkseid was born on Apokolips.
Jose Price
>As an excuse for each time Darkseid jobbed.
So, like doombots?
Logan Reed
I've never really been into making the New Gods multiversial. When Darkseid fights Superman, it always seems like his beef with Superman is personal. It's not like, "oh, it's that Earth-0 Superman again. You know, the one one with the face… no, not that one, the other one." He's just like, "ah, it's SUPERMAN." He's not like, "hey man, I've conquered some versions of you before. I've even raised one version of you as a son. I've essentially met you before." If all Darkseids are the same, then the guy you're watching in the DCAU is the exact same character as the guy you're reading about in the comics.
My headcanon: the Fourth World is still part of the mainstream universe. Why do you need a Boom Tube to get there instead of conventional space travel? Because during space expansion, that region of space started accelerating away from the rest of the universe so fast that it's defining away from us at the speed of light, and is therefore causally "ripped apart" from the rest of the universe, being its own bubble. Being spatially disconnected from the rest of the universe, it started developing its own physical constants and laws, and these conditions are what allowed godly beings to develop, where they could not have evolved under the conditions of the normal universe. So, the Fourth World is like an isolated pocket of the mainstream universe that you can't travel to in a spaceship.
Anthony Lee
>defining away from us
*Receding away from us
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Owen Robinson
Exactly like that. They use the same shit for Thanos. Or used.
>the Fourth World is like an isolated pocket of the mainstream universe that you can't travel to in a spaceship.
Agreed, but my headcanon is... well... the canon.
David King
Adrian Bell
Isaiah Price
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Carson Lopez
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Isaiah Hall
Aaron Thomas
Charles Wood
Camden Diaz
>storytime
Based user
Thanks
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Chase Adams
my pleasure.
John Morales
Austin Collins
Alexander Butler
Ian Hernandez
Luis Jenkins
Ryan Ortiz
Adam Carter
And that's that.
Of course, this was John Byrne, not Jack Kirby. But Kirby does epic pretty well.
Charles Bell
It doesn't. No one but Morrison ever brings it up.
Jeremiah Edwards
Quit making sense user.
Bentley James
Because they don't really care.
Adam Nelson
On the subject of the size of the Old Gods...
Note also the similarity of the image to this one:
Kevin Garcia
The Earth-0 (or whatever you care to call it) Superman is actually different from the others. He is protected by the Source, so he can't be erased by things like reality warping and more specifically the Omega Effect. So yes, Darkseid does have personal beef with that Superman. He knows that there is something important about him.
Cooper Williams
I meant 'Byrne does epic pretty well'. Tssheesh.
Josiah Johnson
It's been utilized waaaaaaay before Morrison. Morrison just brought the concept back into focus.
Chase Allen
What is your source (sic) for that?
Isaac Lee
curious to read more of your headcanon. there's this theory that says the New Gods are actual giants and the Boom Tube recalibrate them into more normal size and vice versa for visitors to that side of the multiverse like let's say Superman goes into the Boom Tube his size get change so he'll look normal size with the New Gods.
Landon Wilson
It’s mostly for the main DC Multiverse, there’s probably another one for the Elseworlds that the main one doesn’t have,
Logan Gonzalez
How it works is Morrison desperately trying to fix a villain who's been garbage since the second Kirby left by mixing multiverse shenanigans, b.s. Lovecraft, and Doombots.
And you dumb faggots eat it up because to you power=good.
Jordan Hughes
This is it, chief
Nicholas Ross
always figured red box look like some sort of arc of the covenant super weapon. new gods could be straight up biblical.
Dylan Adams
That is not a theory, that is once again canon.
Dylan Lee
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