8:00/7:00c - The Misogynistsons - Bart VS Itchy and Scratchy (NEW): Krusty releases an all-female reboot of Itchy and...

Yea Forums is going to implode tonight, won’t they?

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this sounds so bottom of the barrel holy shit
genuinely would expect this from nuPPG or something like that

I know, it’s both amazing and pathetic to watch the writers bitch and whine about feminist ghostbusters and the like being rejected like it’s a major hate crime.

Simpson’s is literally being run by the same people who would have made itchy and scratchy family friendly.

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Just give porn of the left one already!

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I wouldn't doubt it.

>it’s both amazing and pathetic to watch the writers bitch and whine about feminist ghostbusters and the like being rejected like it’s a major hate crime.
Are people even still mad about that? Is that even still a relevant subject?

>Are people even still mad about that? Is that even still a relevant subject?
No, but this seems to be a catch all retlation against similar franchises like the complaints against disney wars and dyke ra. It’s still sad to them stoop to this level

Fuck you I want the right one.

People still watch Simpsons? That...that's so very sad...

There's still people who get up on stage and whine about gamergate, they'll never let it go.

>gamergate is still relevant to some people
It's like the 2010s equivalent of when it was cool to hate Twilight and Justin Bieber.

>Red bandana
Tfw that would get your ass check by gangster
Tfw if another gang saw you they jumped your ass
Tfw if you showed up to school with a bandana would make you go home

*Yea Forums is going to improve tonight

>It's like the 2010s equivalent of when it was cool to hate Twilight and Justin Bieber.
Kek, this. Trigglypuffs everywhere will still bitch about TLJ audience score when they are aging and irrelevant to the rest of society.

They kind of remind me of those punks in Separate Vocations. Only uglier thanks to the shitty animation.

Nah, it's the designers. They've stopped trying like everyone else. Though this was also an issue as far back as even Season 4, if not earlier.

well they ARE from the clown generation so for once it works.

so how long until they make Bart gay?

>w.w.who cares about the message I have a "muh dick" post so WE must stay silent and let it happen.

Girls in a boys bathroom, Girls in a boys bathroom...

>it was cool to hate Twilight and Justin Bieber.
Normal intelligence is pretty cool indead. Nobody should be proud to be a shit eating retard.

That desperate to keep this thread up huh?

So they wrote this episode after that dumb Ghostbusters shit. Wasn't that fucking 3 years ago? It's not even timely.

>indead

No you mean Milhouse

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Normal intelligence is to call them shit and move on.

Scum sucking retards bring them up LONG past their relevancy.

Never.

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That's why he should be gay or Bi
Him and Lisa are never going to happen

The best thing to do is mock the message

Reminder: The producers of the Simpsons are the worst kind of desperate kikes possible and they use gorilla tier clickbait marketing stunts to keep their audience. After Family Guy kiled Brian just to make a bait and switch episode for audience, the Simpsons did way worse things, more than once.
>Since season 12 there was episode promos poiting that side-characters are going to die in the plot (Sideshow Bob,Martin Prince, Krusty) just to bait and switch in the end of the episode
>They spread leaks in the internet to generate fake fuzz like the one about Marge and Homer's divorce episode, then they created a episode where the characters themselves say that it was fake news, but then, in the same season, it happens that it was a real episode. But SURPRISE It was all just a dream!
>They released pic related one month before season 26, just to make people watch the entire season and find out that Kursty's father (a character that barely appered in the show) died
>They heavily marketed Frank Grimes coming back (it was just a halloween intro), one the producers even started himself that it was a desperate attempt for audience
>They are LOVING all the attention they got lately because of the Apu controversy, and isn't it weird that they are going to produce a episode entirely about explaining why the character will be out of show instead of just not showing him anymore?
If you see any kind of controversy surrounding the Simpsons, you better belive it was manufactured for views and nothing more

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>>The Misogynistsons
>couldn't even come up with a half-decent pun for their title
should've expected as much from zombie Simpsons

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How was the LoL episode?

they should make a episode saying it's okay for boys to play with dolls since girls can play with trucks, no ones writing episodes like that, mine be dumb at lest it would fell like SJW shit

It was surprisingly okay until halfway through when it turned into a lisa episode.

>Bart is given sailor moon dolls and hot glues the entire collection
I’d watch it

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Bart almost makes billions of dollars by winning the international championship in Korea. Lisa bitches the entire episode because she isn't the center of attention anymore (This is the actual given reason). Homer, who was Bart's coach, learns some buddhist shit over not wanting things, so he turns the power of the Championship off, making Bart lose, be hated by the rest of the team and Nelson to continue being poor for the rest of his life (he wanted to use the money to buy a door for his bathroom).
The episode ends like this

>it's not intelligent if OTHRE people than me say bad things, because I feel less special, they should do it away from me so I can be the center of attention
Grow up

the girl in the middle tho. Stripped socks is my weakness

Ahh, a man of taste I see

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those girls sound awful

Bitch has three different shades of pink on. Like, what exactly is she trying to accomplish here?

my nigga

I haven't watched the Simpsons in years. The last time I did, I thought it could get any worse. I didn't know how wrong I was. I am honestly surprised they are still making episodes. Maybe it was just never good and I matured? I am not sure anymore. I just remember how much I loved the Halloween episodes

So much for Lisa liking Nelson

>faux Pussy Riot
was this written 5 years ago

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meh, sounds like they aim to make fun of everyone, but unfortunately they should have done this with a different, possibly rebooted simpsons where i can;t tell that Homer simpson and grandpa simpson sound almost the same now because their voice actor is 61 years old now.

The patriarchy is a weiner. Lol

If you keep bringing them up everyday, it doesn't make YOU smart.

I mean, for the Simpsons being rich is a every 3 episodes thing, but that's kind of a shit thing to do to Nelson.

Almost. Three years ago.

Nah, if you just changed the rightmost one’s hair and also toned down her accessories, she could be workable too. They’re all very shitty as they are, though.

S

kinda like her hair though

Bart's clothes feel so out of place when he's with them

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This has to be fake.

They must know what they are doing right? Like how could you write that and not think to yourself “hey, people might really hate Lisa after this”!

nope

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E

The other 9 threads on this wasn't enough, huh?

There's currently three Simpsons threads, one of them isn't even about the episode and this one was created before either of the other two.

There've been threads about this episode for the last week, if not longer.

Ah, I see.
Well, it can't really be much of a surprise if threads start to pop up after the episode finally airs.

Someone give me the rundown of the episode.

How can The Simpsons continue after being bought out by Disney?

Bart becomes a trap.

Nah, I'll just post a bunch of random screencaps and see if you can work it out from that.

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>That gap between Miss Grundy and Daria

What? no Velma?

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>nuPPG on 1998
kek

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You fucking brainlet.

They actually showed equitable violence, which is unrealistic for an all female reboot, and also means that they were wrong for thinking it wouldn't be funny if Lisa got strangled like Bart does.

That isn't nuPPG, retard

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The blonde one! The blonde one!

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this picture is so powerful if you analyse it

>kirk is in the position of the woman
>they both wear glasses but kirks is still on

what did they mean by this?

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>Bart's pose

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Bubbles has her blue hair ties on 1998, which is a bit strange.

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The Simpsons do that kind of shit all the time

lol

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The fem Itchy and Scratchy short at LEAST has the same spirit as Itchy and Scratchy.

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Bart is pretty flexible.

Good to see that in an episode about female empowerment, Lisa gets a panty shot.

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>>Woman cartoon is just a ripoff of something men already did.

whos the old lady?

no olive oil?

Wait she runs a Small business in her Girlfriend? Wow, I didn't realize she was pimping out America that's pretty risky Marvel superhero hooker.

I fucking hate how out of place modern designed characters look in the Simpsons

Where's MLP?
Where's Kim Possible?
Where's Steven Universe (if Bob's Burgers counts despite being named after a male character, then so does SU)?
Hell, where's the vast majority of Disney movies throughout history leading up to the present day? Do they not count as "cartoons"?

I think it's Miss Grundy.

You guys know the writers do these cringy episodes not only because they're hacks but also for overcompensating that The Simpsons exist in a 50s sitcom setting, where women are either stay-home housewives or bitter for not having a man. Marge being a housewive was already a little outdated in 1989 considering Reagan killed the middle class and a worker's salary couldn't maintain 3 kids but media is always at least 5 years behind the real world. Now we're in the literal current year.

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The joke is that somehow females 'need more representation in cartoons' in spite of having media tailored off for them ever since the dawn of Disney and on wards.
It's a subtle jab at the own absurdity the episode creates but not in a way that disprove of it's general message.

I remember seeing a post before that said every episode with a Lisa panty shot was made by a woman

Velma? Josie? Any of the Jetson/Flintonstone women? Wonder Woman? And this picture I googled?

Im starting to think this representation thing is a scam

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>Shaunda Mel

Ok, one good thing in this shitheap.

Somehow I think they should have used Tina instead.

Steven Universe is about a guy

Simpsons writers were definitely in on The Problem With Apu. I could maybe believe the project was its own thing if it were crowdfunded, but anything this stupid and niche backed by Hollywood is fake and gay. No one else would bother with the licensing fees.

Well duh. Women have been in entertainment for decades and many of them demanded respect, power, and fucking money. Look up Joan Crawford.

Right up there with oppression. If you can sleep with who you want, marry who you want, work for who you want, and vote, you're pretty much in the clear.

Interesting.

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The joke is that The Simpsons is still on the air.

Something, something, male gaze (I guess Betty Boop receive a free card for being the pioneer)
Something, something, male-centered narrative
le smurfette principle
And Minmay is from a Japanese cartoon

It's not a funny joke.

>not in a way that disprove of it's general message.
What was the message?

Can you post more screenshots.

You didn't get to the best part. She's Wakandan

Good god

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As someone who watches cartoons unironically, including children's ones, I have no fucking idea what world these people are living in. I could probably count on one hand the amount of cartoons on major networks that *don't* have at least one significant female character.

I fucking addressed that argument in the post.

>Something, something, male gaze (I guess Betty Boop receive a free card for being the pioneer)
Point out a character in that pic made with the Male Gaze in mind in a way that is a detriment to the female crowd.
>Something, something, male-centered narrative
Mixed bag, some are secondary characters in male centric shows, some are primary characters in shows with male characters, others are protagonists in shows aimed at girls.
>le smurfette principle
Outside well, Smurfette, none of those characters were singular female characters in their respective show.

That user posted a random ass fanart piece about some popular as balls cartoons from the 80's. We had entire animated shows/movies made for girls and anything on the spectrum.

>Watching Zombie Simpsons
>Caring about Zombie Simpsons despite it being common knowledge it sucks ass
>Still get mad about things you don't like happening in Zombie Simpsons in this the year of our lord 2019

I thought you guys knew better.

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There's not really that much else that stands out to be honest.
Plus I'm tired and tired and about to pass out.

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Anymore screens of the Itchy and Scratchy, does the blonde purple shirt Scratchy get killed?

Shitposting aside, there were girls cartoons in the 80s but then they just stopped in the 90s. What happened? The directors getting the creative control back affected them negatively? They were dudes and they were interested in working on dudes stuff only while girls were annoyances or tits. Craig McCracken made PPG for his stoner friends in college, it just happened that girls liked it too. Just speculating.

It's always great when privileged people from wealthy countries can abuse their advantages to be successful, thus rising above the oppression that they never experienced. Quite the blow against the sexist maleocentric maleocracy, if I do say so myself.

Dude, I was just trying to mock Lisa's mindset. I guess I wasn't very good at it.

So... as someone who hasn't seen the episode, can someone explain it to me? Was this SJW pandering or satire? or a poor attempt to be "in the middle"?

That’s not fem Scratchy, that’s Scratchy’s wife.

poor attempt to be in the middle

Fucking based Poochie-voiced Teen

>some are secondary characters in male centric shows, some are primary characters in shows with male characters
Louise from Bob's Burgers definitely fits into one or the other, yet she was still included.

A really poor attempt to be in the middle. SJW pandering pretending to be something else.

>but then they just stopped in the 90s.
Very few shows seemed to target in exclusivity boys or girls in the 90's.I'll give an example:
Cartoon Cartoons clearly were aimed at kids in general.
X-men was clearly written to be more sophisticated than just being "boy thing/girl thing".

Fine.
Enjoy your furry guro.

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Why are Itchy and Scratchy so much uglier than the other girl cats?

No I am sure I am just an autistic idiot. Don't feel discouraged.

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Still would.

I want Luanne to be my mommy

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>that cat with the hime cut
nnnnngh

The Girl Mice are always ugly as their vile personalities.

As for fem Scratchy, probably because its just the regular Scratchy design unaltered outside of wearing a dress, wig, and make up.

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>listening to Milhouses

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Honestly what is Itchy's problem?

>7 threads up with seething incels on a warpath. I guess zombie Simpson's still has it

If The Simpsons had a normal time flow, by now Poochie would be a cult character in-universe among hipsters and The Beagle has Landed would be a hit on Youtube with tons of knock-offs and tribute videos. An old Homer would be visited by hipsters asking him to perform the Poochie rap and that could be a plot for an episode (Homer tried to squeeze Poochie's popularity). It just doesn't work with the Simpsons's static timeline though. The natural process for going from generally hated to "so bad it's good" and finally a beloved cult classic takes at least 10 years.

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Imagine actually believing that show is about the titular character.

X-Men was made for boys only though. In fact, the showrunners were surprised when they find out many girls watched the show. I'm not surprised, the guys were really hot (no homo)

SU is nothing but Steven. That is one of the reasons people hate it. It's about always Steven instead of being about the interesting characters. The gems aren't even allowed to win without Steven.

God, it literally looks like they're using a Simpsons Character Creator to design this shit.

Lydia Deetz? Babs Bunny? Dot Warner? Carmen Sandiego? Cybersix? Many more?! Holy shit I fucking hate The Simpsons.

When did representation go from, "There needs to be characters that simply exist" to "They MUST be the PROTAGONIST!!".

Seriously, people give tons of fucking leeway for the villain and call them spotlight stealers and have bigger fanbases than heroes, but when it comes to representation, suddenly being the protagonist matters. As if Jane Porter was somehow less of a great girl Disney character just because Tarzan was the hero.

Boy/girl cartoons were reduced significantly in the mid 90's because toymakers found that they were alienating half their audience either way they went. You also had stuff like cabbage parch kids and beanie babies, which leaned harder on one gender.

Then pokemin happened. Kids of all ages ate that shit up, reguardless of social boundaries. It had such a massive fucking appeal that everyone wanted to imitate it, but only a few went for the boy/girl route vs. boys only.

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So it's ironically about Steven while really being about the gems?

I always wonder what makes them decide to draw a panty shot. They could have just as easily shown her kicking that from another angle.

>X-Men was made for boys only though
Yet it was spear headed by a woman with a main woman writer with plenty of well written (Well for the time, anyway) female characters meaning that even if the original intention was for boys only, was that the result? Did they go out of their way to exclude girls from the fun?
I get what you are saying but my point wasn't that the 90's didn't try making shows "for boys" or "for girls", by that point shows weren't just toy commercials (insert hilarious X-men toys here, I owned a ton too!) but were shaping to be something more too. In doing so, they start attracting a more diverse audience.
I am sure Dexter's Lab was made for boys but it never excluded girls from the fun. I used to watch it with my little sister.

Genndy's stuff has always been very male-centric but it tend to attract girls for some reason

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Pretty sure in this case, not a lot of girls give a shit about Samurai Jack, but they do care about Johnny Bravo and cute shipping.

And yet Yea Forums still gets upset when those shows are made anyway

people using ''woman'' as an adjective will never not trigger me

The irony is cutting.

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Daily reminder that western f*minists completely dropped Pussy Riot after their anti-capitalist leanings were made clear. Why are the Simpsons, basically one of the pillars of the toxic neoliberal status quo now doing a tribute episode? Is it going to be like one of those 30's things where they capitalistwash movements to make them safe for consumption by the Americ*n masses?

Did you not know? Gamergate is responsible for Christchurch shooting. Google it.

X-Men was absolutely for boys you dipshit, did you forget about the biggest female ass in capeshit history in the OP sequence?

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Shit like this should be illegal, or at the vry least, SCORN more than it is

Its bad when Spongebob does it, its shit when Family Guy did it, and my god, Zombiempsuns is by far a suspected money laundry scam.

Poochiegate

Why are the cats happy watching themselves be killed. At least in the golden era, they were scared of being killed?

Episodes like this about making things #woke and fighting the patriarchy by going after pop culture reminds me of how there are women out there who can’t afford tampons and are probably just feeling gross and terrible and that this episode is just making a status quo to change overall minute things instead of changing things for the actual better.

That's a big no.

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oh wow

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Just finished the episode. It wasn't half bad to me, it proved the boycott right when Krusty bailed on the all female show when his money was in jeopardy, and proved that feminists just act by reacting to things instead of thinking things through, and that they are just as biased as the "patriarchy" is. I liked that Bart didn't actually turn feminist and just hung out with them because he liked pulling pranks. Also, the moment in the episode where Bart answers their question of "you don't eve know what we do" by saying "you stick it to the man, only this time its men" and they roll their eyes will long be remembered as one of the best replayable moments in the episode by far. They hated that he could boil down their complex goals so simply and still be right about it. Also touched on how Lisa is mostly just preachy and never backs up her words. I hate Lisa, so this episode was great to me.

when the Fat Ugly Bastard shows up

I agree with the other user; the blonde loli is the most fuckable of the three.

I demand porn of her taking Santa's Little Helper's knot in the name of, uhh, freedom of sexual expression?

Whats this about the Marge squirrel appearing in the episode?

They ignore the static timeline all the time.

So cucked, yet still manages to be based, somehow.

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Meanwhile, channers still rant againt muh ess-jay-double u. People in glasses house shouldnt throw stones

you're fucking disgusting refering to little girls as lolis and wanting her to get raped by a dog

Who said it had to be rape? Women can consent too, you know.

that is still not much better

By feminist standard, MLP "doesnt count" since its watched by icky boys. Too bad, a part of me wanted to see what the 6 looked like in the Simpsons universe

Yes, because they're even more influential than ever and they're still wrong.

>he says in a thread about how they got a Simpsons episode

When the zombie Simpsons finally gets around to doing an episode about you, you're officially on your way out, and are probably already irrelevant.

PPG was watched by boys too.

Once, i read a post on Yea Forums that was whinning about how "SJW were the greatest threat mankind ever faced". People still seriously believe this, i see

SJW pandering peaked from 2013 to 2016, but now media companies are slowly realising it's financial suicide.

That was before the feminist zeitgeist tho, they eventually turned against PPG because of the Femme Fatale episode

>but now media companies are slowly realising it's financial suicide.

What's the signs of that?

Almond bedroom eyes, always.

>there are women out there who can’t afford tampons

tampons can give you an deadly infection if you use them wrong, just wear a pad

>caring about some fucking zombie simpsons episode so much
You /pol/fags are pathetic.

God I love furry guro
Thanks

>women hurting other women
Sure is feminism up in here

>refering to little girls as lolis
user, she isn't real. And who should be referend as loli?

>Still no porn of the girl cats

Politics aside, can we all agree this episodes worst crime was having a Tosh.0 reference in 2019?

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Ironic coming from somebody using a reaction image from an actual legit tumblrdyke show

>Lisa bitches
If one were to list every single episode where she does this, even in SxxExx format and only zombie seasons, you'd probably need 5 and a half posts to list them all.

>Cartoon Women's History only lists 5 shows, two of which are shows that have the female character listed act more as secondaries to male leads
>Zero Hanna-Barbera shows
>Zero Ruby Speares shows
>Zero Disney shows/movies (especially no Disney princesses)
>Bob's Burgers but no other Groening shows
I get that they can't realistically have every single show represented but the way it's depicted makes it look more cherry picked for an argument.

The PPG reboot was catered to them though.

Since no one else was going to do it, I’ll do the recap.

>Episode opens with the family at Krusty-Con
>Bart is very excited for a Panel Krusty is holding about Itchy and Scratchy
>During this event, Krusty unveils an all female reboot of Itchy and Scratchy. >Bart, along with every other boy in Springfield, is flabbergasted
>Lisa loves it, and outright admits she didn’t really care that Itchy and Scratchy were male until the reboot happened
>As they leave the convention center, Bart and literally every (and I mean every, Nelson and Jimbo are there for some reason) boy agree to have a party where they “Hate Not-Watch” the show at the Simpson house. They gather around the tv, and turn it off right before the show comes on, sitting in silence for the entire duration of it.
>Unbeknownst to Bart, Lisa is filming her reaction to the show upstairs. For a reason I can’t remember, he ends up there, and is caught on tape laughing at one of the jokes. This ostracizes him almost immediately with the boys.
>The next day at school, the boys, now lead by Millhouse for some reason, threaten to bully Bart so bad that in order to escape them, he ducks into a girls room
>This is where he meets Bossy Riot (henceforth called BR), the 3 (wo)man group who vandalize stuff in the name of raising awareness for women
>They’re actually pretty good at the vandalism part, which Bart admires
>They’re about to bully Bart mercilessly for setting foot into the girls bathroom when Bart explains that he’s the infamous El Barto, and could help them vandalize stuff
>They begrudgingly agree, but get more into it when Bart just fucking ruins Skinner’s office with a leaf blower and a can of paint
>BR decides to keep Bart around as a willing slave;I think the exact quote was something like “If we’re really serious about this whole gender equality thing, it’s only natural that a man should serve under us.”

>Meanwhile, Millhouse and the boys form the Boys Rights Association, which is jokingly referred to as BRA, who seek to make things easier on boys. Jokes about them supporting stuff abound. You know. Because they’re Bras.
>Cue a montage of Bart and BR raising hell with some vandalism
>Lisa sees a news report on BR and immediately thinks they’re cool.
>Bart agrees, and suddenly, Lisa notices a crocheted mask hanging out Bart’s pants, leading her to suspect Bart is in BR
>He confesses to it immediately. Lisa is enraged because she doesn’t think Bart actually cares about Women’s Rights, and just wants an excuse to do bad stuff, which, to her credit, isn’t completely inaccurate. Bart doesn’t fully understand the cause and only has a passing understanding of it, but it’s shown that he doesn’t disagree with it and is eager to learn more about it
>Bart then implies that Lisa is only mad because Bart, someone who’s not even sure why he’s fighting, has taken more action than she ever has about women’s rights, which isn’t exactly wrong either
>The next day, Bart meets with BR, who tell Bart about their greatest act of rebellion yet
>Since the BRAs managed to raise enough hell, they got Krusty to can the new Itchy and Scratchy
>In retaliation, BR plans to break into Krusty’s studio, steal all the Itchy and Scratchy show tapes, and burn them
>Bart can’t get behind this because he loves those cartoons too much. BR ties him to a mannequin for this so he can’t interfere.

>Later that night, Lisa tracks Bart down with the “Find my Brother” app, ready to fire back at Bart for what he said earlier
>Bart tells Lisa what’s going to happen to Itchy and Scratchy. Cut to Lisa biking as hard as she can to Krusty’s, while Bart, still tied to the mannequin is pulled behind her with a rope.
>They arrive too late to the archives, and it’s revealed the BR is going to dip the tapes into a vat of boiling nail polish while Krusty is on the air.
>Bart distracts BR by mansplaining to them. Lisa then kicks the vat of Nail Polish, sending it careening into the audience, populated entirely by BRAs
>The smell of burning nail polish makes the boys all cry. BR sees this, and sprays glitter into the crowd so that everyone can see they’ve been crying.
>Millhouse is blamed for this entire blunder, and is thrown into a pile of dirty monkey laundry
>BR escapes without getting caught, and Bart and Lisa return the tapes
>Later, Bart and Lisa run into BR on their way out. Bart asks if he can ever rejoin BR. BR tells Bart that he was never really in the group and was being used the entire time.
>However, BR now respects Lisa for making all the boys cry, and ask if she wants to join. She accepts.
>The episode ends with BR and Lisa riding off into the full moon on their bikes while wearing their crochet masks. Bart spray paints “THE PATRIARCHY IS A WEENIE” on a wall in pink.
>There’s a scene after the credits where Bart tells the boys about girl secrets, like how they actually do burp, they get candy dispensers in the restrooms, and most surprisingly, they don’t envy boys at all

It was a weird watch. I don’t know how to describe it.

"you can't defend women without destroying property and assaulting violence"
"if women have a picture of you looking weird or bad you must admit defeat"
This sound like it was written by the trannies of Yea Forums

Was the Itchy & Scratchy episode supposed to be a parody of something?

>They begrudgingly agree, but get more into it when Bart just fucking ruins Skinner’s office with a leaf blower and a can of paint
Why would Skinner of all people be the fucking victim of feminists as a principal he was always fair to his kids and teachers and even pushed Lisa on the top at many occasion.

Why do the writers hate Bart so much in these recent seasons? Especially if they're trying to push Lisa
>Bart becomes famous drummer
>Lisa ruins his career by getting him mauled by a fucking TIGER
>Marge's makes him feel bad for being pissed at Lisa and forces him to donate his surgery money to her charity
>Last week he became a famous gamer
>Lisa gets Homer on her hippy ideals
>Demands to come to Korea on his championship match
>Gets Homer to pull him from his match mid play
>Everyone on his team hates Bart
>Episode ends
What the fuck

>Lisa then kicks the vat of Nail Polish
>However, BR now respects Lisa for making all the boys cry, and ask if she wants to join. She accepts.
So Lisa openly gets in the way of BR's plans after they tie up and use his brother, then they ask her to join them, and she does? and then Bart thinks feminism is cool?

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>>Bart distracts BR by mansplaining to them.
Uggggggghhhhhh

Even youtubers stress they hate Bart over Lisa.

those actually exist

They're all hot so who cares?

>Bossy Riot
What fresh he is this?

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Apu's not going away

That's even more incentive for it to go on forever just like Star Wars and the MCU.

>we don't exists shut up stay silent and obedient while we spread ok you are just seeing things even when I just gave you the direct order to OBEY THE CAUSE OR ELSE
yikes.

>Bossy Riot

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I don't know why but human hair on anthropomorphic characters makes me unreasonably mad.

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Parody of pitch perfect

I see you're into 'programmers'

>bringing Daria in that mess
FUCK YOU

I still don't understand this woke concept

Sugar isn't a dyke she has a fat boyfriend

>cucked
Do you even know what that means, or are you just using buzzwords?

By the definition of a person who uses “woke” unirioncially, it means that society is actively suppressing the rights and opportunities of minorities. In general practice it means blaming people other than yourself for your misfortune.

>No decapited cat girl gf

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Will The Simpsons be the ultimate test of the "get woke, go broke" hypothesis?

PPG was made by a dude who thought little girls beating up bad guys was hilarious and cool. I agree with him. Also, it was made with the thought of boys watching it.

It was ALREADY a zombie prior to this episode. What else is there to go broke?

Cancellation.

Is that supposed to be his right hand or his left hand?

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Settle down, Chomsky.

Hey, we should make lewd art of those girls. That'll show the feminists, ha ha.

Careful, or you'll get reported to the police for bullying and hurting feelings.

Friendly reminder that if the Simpsons lasts until 2024, Homer will have been born in the same year that the show premiered.

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Into the collection it goes, thanks good sir.

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The screenshots from this episode really touched on something I hate about female versions of anthropomorphic character designs in cartoons. The "male" characters are always designed to be gender neutral, yet the "female" counterpart characters always have to be explicitly female, complete with eyelashes, dresses, feminine hairstyles and earrings when the male characters have nothing that points them out as explicitly male. I find it so telling that in an age where so much is trying to specifically appeal to women and the feminist crowd that they still fall into these weird cliches of character designs, I can tell that they would find it "weird" to draw out the female Itchy and Scratchy designs without clothes because they would feel naked somehow despite not wearing clothes before. I don't know, I'm not a feminist or anything, but I just find that this trend treats male as the default so they have to go out of their way to tell you that they are infact female, as if it's the "other" option and that character design in general would go a long way in breaking away from this retarded idea. In fact it's this whole mindset of "we're doing it for WOMEN" that puts me off a lot of movies and TV shows, since there's usually that lack of quality due to the focus on trying to make it an explicitly "FEMALE" product instead of just making something good to begin with.

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>"female" counterpart characters always have to be explicitly female, complete with eyelashes, dresses, feminine hairstyles and earrings
?

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He's a man. That's all that matters.

You are fucking stupid.

As a Sonic fan I realized that stuff pretty early on. Male characters hardly ever gets clothes, maybe accessories but girls get the full works. Deep down though I understand. Without the femininity a woman is just a lesser man. Also... it helps the porn.

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The sandals ban wasn't even sexist. It applied to boys too.

>I AM ENRAGED THA WOMEN LOOK FEMININE THEY WHOULD BE UGLY SLAB OF LARD WITH PINK HAIR LIKE ME
Fuck off, tranny.

I don’t recall that third point. I recall Bart giving money raised from a charity concert to build a habitat for the animals Lisa adopted. Lisa was unaware of this gesture. Of course, I would have to watch Jazzy and the Pussycats again, and I really don’t want to do that now.

>As a Sonic fan
fuck off pedo

There's people who unironically still love the Simpsons.

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You can't compare those character to Bart. Simpsons character we're design to be simplistic. Now that everything gone digital they can over design character really stand out against regular cast characters.

>Sonic
Fuck off

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Nicole is a really good more modern exception to the rule, as are the PPG and the cast of Steven Universe.

Yup, that part was super out of touch. It's like they didn't want to have a woman-based episode where all Lisa does is save her brother once, so they instead ended it with her joining the BR gang... despite that she's supposed to hate the BR gang right now.

The thing with Bart was just the usual "If we put this here, it'll make people think we're on their side" Pepsi Ad thing.

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Good on Daniel Day-Lewis for refusing to take part in this trainwreck.

Oh yeah, CLEARLY Sonic is the only thing that does the naked guy and fully dressed female anthropomorphic character thing. You're an ignorant twat with a Sonic hate-boner.

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I think the big problem here is that Bossy Riot are made out to be in the right in the end, even though the whole third act is about stopping them from destroying history.

Like, the moral is all fucked up. They wanted to make a thing about radical feminism but they didn't wanna say it was bad. It should have ended with Lisa telling them off for tainting the equality that feminism is supposed to represent. Bart gets a better appreciation of women, Lisa understands more about respecting what came before, everyone gets a bit closer.

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Someone please put the bloated corpse of the Simpsons out of it's misery

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>The screenshots from this episode really touched on something I hate about female versions of anthropomorphic character designs in cartoons. The "male" characters are always designed to be gender neutral, yet the "female" counterpart characters always have to be explicitly female, complete with eyelashes, dresses, feminine hairstyles and earrings when the male characters have nothing that points them out as explicitly male.

Rubbish! I mean sure, the eyelash thing is real, and female characters usually have fancier hairstyles, but that's about it for differences. A female character wearing dresses or makeup or somesuch is normally only used to show women being old-fashioned.

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The real question is, was it selfinsert?

And you are biased to think that "naked guy and fully dressed female" is the rule. Retard

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Oh wow.
I thought you guys were being dramatic with your nu-Simpsons hate.
>t. haven't seen a Simpsons episode since I was twelve

Now that you mention it, X-Men Evolution always come off to me as a "girly show" which I enjoyed as a guilty pleasure because of that.
There was something about the atmosphere.

It's not "a rule" brainlet. It's a observable phenomenon. Either both sexes are naked or only the male is naked/semi-naked. Daisy and Minnie for example in Mickey's clubhouse both get fully clothed while Mickey and Donald keep their default half-naked looks. Get fucked and get lost.

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And they both are semi-naked in the new shorts. It's not a "observable phenomenon". Different artists have differents styles and preferences. Stop being so obsessed with this stupid shit

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I'm not saying that it's done all the time, and Gumball is great in that it doesn't do it, but it's definitely something I've noticed plenty of times. Take Regular Show for example, Mordecai and Rigby are naked yet Eileen and Margeret are fully clothed.

Thanks

Good example, even if I hate Sonic in general.

Not even remotely related to my point but thanks for being angry

I'm talking about the male/female Itchy and Scratchy.

I'm not really talking about female characters and the clothes they wear per se, but in the instances where we have a male anthropomorphic character, they are presented in a gender neutral way, but a female one has to be explicitly female and usually wears clothes. Like how Bugs Bunny is always "naked", yet Lola is always wearing clothes. This isn't always true, but it's just shitty character design to me.

This isn't about me wanting the characters to be ugly or wanting to desperately see them naked (I mean, we have porn drawn of everything upon seconds of it being thought of), but I just want to see this stupid trend die off in the name of being consistency.

Amazon position

Tumblrinas and internet feminists love Lisa though. It can't be helped considering Lisa was the tumblr kid before tumblr became a thing

Sounds like the writers have some unresolved women issues underneath their progressive buzzwords

The episode where Bart essentially becomes the town pariah after losing a simple softball game to the point where he basically gets suicidal was probably the absolute worst. I havent seen much of new Simpsons after that episode but it's hard to think it can get to that level and stay that consistently bad.

>they are presented in a gender neutral way
They are presented as boys. No one thinks Tom is a girl.

I think what he mean isn't gender neutral but male presented as the default and female as the big other

You keep missing the argument. Either both are naked or only the male. Masculinity is the default while femininity has to be represented. It's like the other user says >Like how Bugs Bunny is always "naked", yet Lola is always wearing clothes.
It is indeed an observable phenomenon. It only happens one way and never the opposite. Does it matter? Not really... I guess. No one's obsessed but don't pretend it's not a thing.

>furry chocolate
I need to breed now thanks

>group of sixth-grade girls
Do kids this young actually know about these kind of things?

>Tonight was the night the Simpsons became president
Pardon me?

I mildly enjoy Tosh.0. Depends on the guest honestly. Tonetta777 was great.

>The guy who watched "The Simpsons" back in 1994: And won't admit the damn thing isn't funny anymore
Stones and glass houses, I know, but still.

>Krusty admitting the girl power was literally just for the shekels
>The entire episode is literally that
>Not realizing that the show unironically redpills itself by showing how feminists are vapid cunts who don’t believe in anything they say and are just attention seeking thots
Matt named the Jew and showed feminists are their golems. Wait til they call him a white supremacist when he’s also a Krusty Jew himself.

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>They are presented as boys. No one thinks Tom is a girl.
We only know that from the fact that Tom is his name and I guess his voice. It's not like Tom has a pair of y-fronts on to specifically let us know his gender. Tom and Jerry is better than a lot of other shows since at least the female cats (and mice) usually only have the eyelash thing going on, and maybe a bow.

That would be too clever for this piece of shit, friendo.

Definitely the right decision.

Femininity is represented by two things. Clothes and tits/. Without female clothes a naked female antro who lack tits would look too similar to the guys. If the female has tits she can't go around naked because soccer moms will get triggered.

>Wow this is shit
>But it agrees with my politics so I need to say it's the greatest thing ever

It's all so tiresome.

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Is that Yea Forumsnrad

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We know Tom is a guy because he has a "masculine" face. It's one of the reason why so many of people think Nermal from Garfield is a girl. He has a "feminine" face.

I get why they do it, I just think it's lazy and unecessary. It's not like we need masculinity to be explicitly represented in male characters so there's no ambiguity about their gender, especially when you can tell a character's gender +90% of the time from their name and voice alone.

I love that expression, She's like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?"

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I suppose. Nermal also has the eyelash thing and also has a weird name.

Wait, was there a Panty shot in this episode?

No one said she was.
The show is, though.

I'm not mad, this is fun, It's like looking at a 50 something guy with sunglasses trying to act young or like watching a cabin burning.

It's catartic.

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It's just a shitty zombie Simpsons episode making fun of radical feminism.
No need to overthink everything.

>the 90's didn't try making shows "for boys" or "for girls",
PPG and Daria were very much aimed at female audiences. Some of it might not have been as blatant as the 80's My Little Pony and G.I. Joe cartoons, but there was still a lot of stuff aimed specifically one way or another in the 90's. A lot of cartoon creators realized they could try to target both after Tiny Toons did so very well with both.

>PPG and Daria were very much aimed at female audiences
You clearly didn't watch either of these shows.

>making fun of radical feminism.
I don't think they were being ironic, desu.

His name is literally tom because he's a tomcat- a male cat. Incidentally this is why people who say "tomgirl" are retarded and deserve a beating.

>even a show within a show is a zombie show after being on for 30 years

Did anyone other than Chris Chan ever say that?

>Why are the cats happy watching themselves be killed

The cats are white people

Lame episode. I don't care for the politics aspect unlike a lot of "culture war fighters' here, but it was so boring.
And really, 3 years late to this? I thought the Twilight and Avatar parodies being so late was bad...

Just so you all know, the first google result for "The Misogynistsons" is this thread.

Congrats on having a 300 reply thread over fucking nothing.

Retard

I don't even know what point you're trying to make with this post

You know what? That's kinda true, I can't really thing in a female antho that didn't have clothes, but then pic related came to my mind

What do you think about it?

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Bitch, no one gives a fuck, we are just making fun of zombie simpsons.

That I thought the episode was fake and you were all bitching about something that wasn't even real, which would've been pathetic, but apparently it's real, just under a different title, which is just so much worse, and now I wish I hadn't said anything and had just gone on assuming it was fake.

At least the episode is not ten years behind the times.

Everyday since mid-2017, Megan Amram (the writer of this episode) has tweeted "Today is the day Donald Trump became President" or some variation thereof.

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Nigga read the fucking thread before posting, there's over a dozen screencaps and full synopses in it.

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The "The Misogynistsons" never was the supposed title of the episode, it was just a dumb joke of the Animation domination Op, you fucking dipshit.

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user I...

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I religiously watched every pink panther short when I was a kid but I can't figure out where doesn't that comes from.

Pink at First Sight
It’s on YouTube

Yeah well I guess I was fucking wrong.

>There's this whole subconscious framework behind character design
A retard likes to overanalyze this stuff and wonder what it says about society that Bugs Bunny can walk around naked while the Warner Sister Dot wears a skirt.

Granted, Dot also didn't wear a shirt, but if you need to know why it is they do characters like that it's for two reasons.

The first is that a skit's an easy shorthand. It's so simple they use it on bathroom labels. It's not that there's a massive gender bias when they started doing this, because children of all genders often wore gowns. It's just that it's really easy and requires minimal detail.

The second is that men respond to visual stimuli more than women, so if you draw secondary sexual characteristics on a rabbit then it reads as the rabbit being sexy. A full bust or wide hips are both desirable sexual characteristics. Cartoonists didn't always want their female animals to look "sexy", so again, they throw a skirt on it, or long eyelashes, or a bow in the hair.

Use Occam's Razor on occasion. The simple explanation works in more cases than the complex one that accuses society.

Not the point. I meant to imply all menstrual hygiene products like pads and tampons. They’re a necessity and yet there are women out there who have to choose between buying them or buying another necessity simply because they can’t afford both.

Somebody shop Milhouse instead of Kirk.

>he thinks feminism is about making things better

why is this not dlc?

Milhouse pee's sitting down, Haha

I know I shouldn't have expected it, but I really wanted this episode to actually paint these bitches as the feminazis they are and point out that their way of thinking is just as wrong.

I used to like turning to Fox on Sunday nights to watch The Simpsons and Family Guy and now I don't do that because of how low they've sunken...

Cant wait till they're both cancelled.

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And the episode ends with Bart, Marge, Nelson, and even Maggie brutally beating Homer into a pulp because of his stunt, right?

Meanwhile Lisa tries to stop them but is either ignored or pushed out of the way while a five minute sequence of Homer being beaten plays out. Cut to credits.

That would be the only way to redeem what you described.

What, because it has gay people in it? Don't you have some Donald trump echo chamber to shitpost in?

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>200 posts later
Oh man the controversy.

But it's funny when boys go against "said" gender stereotype there "gay"

It doesn't happen.

Almost like sexist is still alive, and present in multiple aspects of society.... what's that called? Intersectionalism?

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>have a bart episode
>lol jk it's just a lisa episode

E

Right, male is seen as standard and female as other, but also negative and separate. "Negative" in the sense that male qualities are generally more positive than female, female qualities more sexual by nature as they are present in attractive features and accessories.

You are literally a caricature
You're these girls Just go back to /trash/ or twitter where you belong.

COMBO BREAKER

Not that guy but where is this coming from?

>dressing like faggots is bad when women do it
I don't get you.

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>I hate reality, it's sexist

>Female equivalent of Adventure Time
>But that's not saying much since a shitton of female co-workers actually FOLLOWED Adventure Time

Also, did I fucking mess up by admitting to people I watch cartoons as an adult?

That's Milo, the owner of the comic book shop Coolsville, and his wife Strawberry. Good eye.

Even the showrunners of zombie Simpsons have admitted the characters don't act their ages.

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Say that again, but slowly

Hell, Craig McCracken flat-out stated PPG wasn't specifically aimed at girls.

jojo is the worst example you fucking clown generation ever had to excuse your inhability to grow past the age of 5 mentaly. It's worse than the snoybeard think he's an epic man because he got a pikachu sleeve tatoo.

It's the teacher from Archie

What do you think this is, Family Guy? No one ever becomes brutally injured as a result of stupidity and no one ever gets called out for being a piece of shit.

Is this really true? Oh who am I kidding of course it is. This is stupid tasteless and fucked shit that they constantly do.

Someone, please, anywhere,maim those faggot writers. It's insulting as hell people get payed to write shit like this.

>Expecting somethig from NuSimpsons
Idiot
>Expecting it gets cancelled
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My nigga, that is a man.

>boy has no father figure
>he becomes an MRA cuck to overcompensate

at least they're realistic in that regard

>using words like "snoybeard"
Shut the fuck up, roastie.

>implying men don't read comics because almost every male superhero looks like Charles Atlas
>implying women don't read NuManga like modern One-Piece or Fairy Tail because they are filled with balloon tit bimbos

I didn't see her either, but the wiki insists she appears?

>I'm not mad, this is fun, It's like looking at a 50 something guy with sunglasses trying to act young
I'm sorry you have issues with your father, user.

Where's the 34 of the girl cats?

>
>Simpson’s is literally being run by the same people who would have made itchy and scratchy family friendly.
I mean, you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Jojo clothing is actually based on high fashion

>meanwhile zombie Simpsons shows minority kids getting turned to hamburger meat by a white cop
youtu.be/w--VcX3n_7w

Why is it wrong for girls to be fashionable?

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>"fully clothed"

>no pants/skirt/underwear

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Good point. Goes back to the whole "Minnie just looking like Mickey on drag"

projecting much? Leave him be

>posts starfox

Yeah pal. sure

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What the hell is Itchy's problem anyway?

why did you post? nothing you said add anything, it's just a masturbatory noise

Go back to tumblr/plebbit

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She's actually meant to be wearing a skirt. It just doesn't look like it due to being the same color as her feathers. The bottom part is supposed to be frills.

>doubt intensifies

When they depict her wearing a skirt, it's obvious she's weaing a skirt.

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How about this guys, her butt is shaped like a skirt.

which one was?

I would accept proof in the form of a webm that shows her "skirt" moving independently of her butt.
But though I've only ever seen that show briefly while flipping channels, I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen because that's her butt, and she's bottomless, as she usually is.

>3 dykes stare menacingly at an effeminately-postured boy in a horrible thin-lined artstyle

It's like I'm browsing a DeviantArt fetish page.

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It's weird how that happens. The MRA types I know IRL have no real relationships with their fathers. It's odd that they turn on the gender that raised them rather than the ones that wanted nothing to do with them.

Every MRA I know of is just some person that wants fairness in child custody battles and prison sentences, yet apparently everyone else thinks they are simultaneously violent misogynists but also submissive cucks, I can't say I really get the dissonance.

>unironic Poochie fans
Girls would do this.

Someone please photoshop Kirk to Milhouse

It's the idea of "beta uprising", the mentality that made the perfect gentleman an /r9k/ hero.

But what does that have to do with MRAs?

I don't LIKE the character designs in Jojo, so I'm not sure why you're using them as an example.

There's a difference between how they try to portray themselves, and how they act as soon as they think no normies are watching.
And "submissive cucks" and "violent misogynists" isn't that hard to reconcile. "Overcompensating" for being a pussywhipped loser means they go full retard in the opposite direction, shoot straight past "healthy attitude towards women" and on into violent rape fantasy shit.

You said you don't get the dissonance. It comes from impression people get. You know how people see feminism as about hating men? People see MRAs about hating females like Rodgers and /r9k/.

Libshits across the country feel that way today, you're not alone.

I despise Family Guy, but at least it has an identity. It's a CRAP identity, but it's an identity.

Modern Simpsons seems to have no identity at all. Just dull robot copies of the characters who have no definable attributes and are just blown around by the wind of the jokes.

Extreme feminists are allowed a platform and even the most moderate MRAs are not, you can't say they're the same or as well known (like a regular person is more likely to call Rogers an incel instead of a men's rights activist)

I'm saying the impression is the same. Having a bigger platform and reaching a wider audience doesn't keep people from thinking feminism is about hating men. It's also in the name; "Men's Rights Activists" men have their rights and are historically well represented in politics, so the name seems to be combative against women, like how Blue Lives Matter was made in response to Black Lives Matter.

bird tits!

Who do you consider an extreme feminist?

Not him but this post is baffling.
> And "submissive cucks" and "violent misogynists" isn't that hard to reconcile. "Overcompensating" for being a pussywhipped loser means they go full retard in the opposite direction, shoot straight past "healthy attitude towards women" and on into violent rape fantasy shit.
I can honestly say I've never seen that happen before.

Most people into Men's Rights I know are for Women's rights as well, though they don't use the term MRA to refer to themselves as its become toxic.

Right, because fairness in custody battles and divorce aren't men's rights issues. Concern over men's rights reveals a lack of perspective.

Name one person on Yea Forums who has ever become angry that a show has a female character in it.
I hate being that guy but you sound fucking retarded. Shows dating back to the 50's have main female characters and no one cares.

If anything people had a boner for Betty and Wilma in the Flintstones, it pretty much created an entire generation of footfags.

>Name one person on Yea Forums
>on an anonymous board

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All the more reason bitching about Yea Forums 'not liking something' is retarded.

But idiots love JonTron.

What does Gamergate have to do with some guy who makes internet screams?

Anyone who takes it beyond "men and women should be treated equally under the law".
Once you start conjuring up claims about the patriarchy or toxic masculinity you're just a conspiracy theorist.
> men have their rights
So do women, the reason both feminists and MRA's exist is to ensure it stays that way.
>so the name seems to be combative against women
Is feminism's name combative against men?

What I find so baffling about it is that it's such a tiny niche to target. Like if you weren't involved in any of these internet shitflinging contests; you would have zero clue what the context behind any of this may be.
I always thought zombie simpsons whole shtick was that it would try to cast the biggest net possible because it was boring consumable trash people were doing for a paycheck. This? This is targeting a subset of a subset of an internet argument.

Unless you post on someplace like Yea Forums where you've probably been introduced to it in passing; you're not going to get what this episode was about. Or at the very least not understand what it's talking about and think it's yet another post-modern take on humor.

wow, so it is as vile and male hating as it gets?

It's hard to tell if that's 'man-hating' or 'bart-hating'. Zombie Simpsons has a hard-on for shitting on bart and then trying to act like it was justified for some reason.

Wow. Lisa is still the worst.

I would have thought they would have learned their lesson after the drum episode.

>Once you start conjuring up claims about the patriarchy or toxic masculinity you're just a conspiracy theorist.
You misunderstand those concepts then. "The patriarchy" as obnoxious as it sounds, is just a word for the male centered, male driven world. Be it by nature that women are physically weaker and carry children while men are the protectors or by "social construct" most of the world has seen women as second class citizens until recently. Carrying the stigma and being outside the male standard comes with challenges. Recognizing "toxic masculinity" is recognizing male challenges too and isn't so much a conspiracy either. You can go overboard with it and use those terms to explain everything shitty in your life while taking no responsibility.

>So do women, the reason both feminists and MRA's exist is to ensure it stays that way.
Women had rights before they had the right to vote or own property. Since they had to climb from there and into concepts like "reproductive rights" the word "women's rights" has more of a place than "men's rights". There is a place for fighting for men's interests and politics that effect men like the draft, but that's not on the radar for most MRAs who seem to be hung up on their "rights" in relation to things that include women like divorce and custody.

Lisa is the most popular character on the small secluded bubbles where the writers hang out.

Not him but reading this mental back-flipping really puts into perspective why Twitter users seem to go insane after a few months of hyperventilating about this shit.

What do you mean? Who was hyperventilating?

Can you really not read that and see the massive projection at play to make it all work together?
>"The patriarchy" as obnoxious as it sounds, is just a word for the male centered, male driven world. Be it by nature that women are physically weaker and carry children while men are the protectors or by "social construct" most of the world has seen women as second class citizens until recently. Carrying the stigma and being outside the male standard comes with challenges.
That's insane. That's a massive projection on literally the entire world on the way people 'feel' that it works and not actually how it works.

I know it's not your projection, that's the actual definition that people have come to accept as gospel. At the same time, picture being someone on twitter who spends literally all of their time thinking about this. This massive strawman they've made about society and the evils of the world.
>You can go overboard with it and use those terms to explain everything shitty in your life while taking no responsibility.
Like that, yeah.

You would lose your mind in a few months. I can't see how anyone could follow this and think of themselves as not being a religious person, as that's almost akin to the Christian definition of original sin and it's origins with the Devil (or 'The patriarchy' in this case).

This all seems like a extremely unpleasant fever dream.

It's just the Simpsons.

>"The patriarchy" as obnoxious as it sounds, is just a word for the male centered, male driven world.
But that's never how it's described, it's treated like an actual organization which all males are either a part of or compliant with that delibritely conspires against all women, more or less identical to the sort of rhetoric used by conspiracy theorists in regards to their chosen enemy (the UN, the government, the jews, the reptillians,etc).
>most of the world has seen women as second class citizens until recently.
Until recently most of the world has seen everyone that isn't a landed aristocrat or royalty as second class citizens it hasn't been limited to women.
>Recognizing "toxic masculinity" is recognizing male challenges too
So why does it sound like an insult?
> There is a place for fighting for men's interests and politics that effect men like the draft, but that's not on the radar for most MRAs
Then you haven't actually spoken to any
>who seem to be hung up on their "rights" in relation to things that include women like divorce and custody.
Reproductive rights include men but you still place them under the umbrella of "women's rights" because they affect women more strongly, divorce and custody affect men more strongly so that's why MRA's care about them, also since feminists don't seemed concerned by them, somebody needs to approach those issues.

Why does it seem like all your issues against MRA's are entirely based in semantics?

>Having a bigger platform and reaching a wider audience doesn't keep people from thinking feminism is about hating men.
That's actually exactly why people think it's about that.
It's giving a megaphone to people who really shouldn't have one. Take this very simpson's episode for example: Or take the Drum episode for example. The message here seems to be either "Fuck men who get lippy at our activism" or "Fuck Bart for getting lippy at our activism". Which results in that stigma.

>But that's never how it's described

By who? Feminist writers, or some dumbass on tumblr who doesn't read? I can pretty much guarantee it's the latter.

Had to google "feminist MRA" to see how they relate or what's the common narrative between them and what their view on the patriarchy would be. First hit:

>The truth of the matter is, we live in a patriarchal society.

>Just look at the numbers: Less than a quarter of national parliamentarians are women. Only 4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are women. Statistics don’t exist for non-binary people at all.The most powerful people in this world are men.

>That doesn’t mean the world is fair to men. But if men want liberation from gender roles, they should support feminists, not MRAs.

>Feminists are advocating for more generous paternity leave, greater acceptance of men who show emotions and vulnerability, and less pressure for men to play the “masculine” role in their relationships and families.

>And while MRAs make many good points, I’ve seen their behavior get really toxic. When they talk about women like men are entitled to them and deny the existence of misogyny, they fuel patriarchy, which hurts people of all a/genders.

>But if you’re ready to fight for men’s liberation without putting anyone else down, we welcome you with open arms.

>In fact, we desperately need you. Just please understand that men won’t be free from gender roles until oppressed a/genders are as well.

Yeah. Nah. Dont care about the /pol/ 2 minutes of hate. You're all chuds picking on a easy target

Post porn of the OP girls

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Post porn of the Guro kitties instead.

First hit, where? What site?
Because this sounds like cherrypicking from one of aforementioned people who have gone insane thinking that the world's shortcomings are the result of this concept of society's original sin.

The people Poochie types aimed to appeal grew up into adults heh

For whatever reason, a lot of people seem to think rights for men and rights for women are mutually exclusive.

everydayfeminism.com/2017/03/mra-arguments-have-point-and-wrong/

Forgot to post source. Decent read if you want to know the feminist perspective.

>/pol/
Pancakes Pancakes Pancakes, etc. etc. etc.

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Sorry I didn't post it sooner, but if you google "mra feminist" without the quotes, it's the first hit.

everydayfeminism.com/2017/03/mra-arguments-have-point-and-wrong/

And there's the problem: This is cherrypicking. They don't mention things like the wage gap reversing at large companies or more women going to college than men, they just mention these particular aspects of society and assume all of them are related and universal without any actual proof.
It's really no different than going to an MRA and asking what his perspective is and getting a lot of MGTOW garbage.

>Chuds

Chapo brainlets be gone.

Are there any cherry picked articles of MRAs wanting to work with feminists?

Because they're too busy making that indivisible game, mostly trying to redo all the character designs because even the devs admit they're garbage.

Well, I went to the exact google search you used and scanned a few articles down and found one, actually
vox.com/2015/2/5/7942623/mens-rights-movement
Several on a closer glance
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/

They're all based entirely off anecdotes, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, and personal stories that happened to them.
Kind of like the article you posted.

It's hard to make the argument that they're not two sides of the same coin when it's based entirely off of anecdotes and cherry picking random stats in society which do not directly affect them.

Also I I think we should get back to the topic of the Simpsons before this goes further off course.

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Dont you rightists have some kids to go sexually abuse?

Pancakes pancakes why can't you stop talking about pancakes.

Isn't fur already a replacement for clothes?

Depends on the cartoon.
Didn't stop Homer when he became the Sasquatch.

>thread is chock full of "feminists and mras and sjws oh my" off-topic /pol/ discussion, from end to end
>but don't you dare notice it or else pancakes.jpg

How many more shootings does it take before Hiro finds /pol/ unprofitable and axes it?

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I know she's a witch on the inside, etc.

>Literally enter a pretty reasonable, civil conversation about a simpsons episode
>Literally bitch and moan because people have different opinions from you as your opening post because you're too butthurt to join the conversation
Pancakes pancakes why can't you stop talking about pancakes

I don't know, how many more threads is it going to take for you discord autists to realize that Yea Forums isn't your retarded hugbox for your retarded opinions?

So you can't find any outreach. MRAs are largely opposed to feminists for some reason, but I would like to see where they meet because there are important issues they agree on and can help each other with.

>They're all based entirely off anecdotes, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, and personal stories that happened to them.
>Kind of like the article you posted.
It looks like you didn't read the article. It cites stats, though it's by no means a thesis and more of an opinion piece.

>If you don't like my retarded communist podcast full of balding men you're a nazi!

Miss me with that gay shit.

>So you can't find any outreach
The whole Vox article is about outreach. The whole Atlantic article is about someone who tried to switch sides and bridge the two.
>It looks like you didn't read the article. It cites stats, though it's by no means a thesis and more of an opinion piece.
I did, so do the other two pieces because they're actual articles. That's kind of the problem here: The stats are cherrypicked. It ignores the other anomalies in society like the rate of women vs men going to college or male suicide rates.

You can't claim that they're trying to outreach when they're creating propaganda. Which is the problem: These are two insane groups who are creating propaganda to help their side and hurt the other. Anyone in the middle gets lumped with one or the other for the purposes of attacking each other because logic has long since left this conversation.

Again, we need to get back to the Simpsons.

I'm not that guy, but if you can't see the wall-to-wall off-topic arguments about what MRAs and feminists believe, and various other shit that belongs on /pol/ then you're either blind or being disingenuous.
I see your tactic get used a lot lately in /pol/ bait threads, is this you guys' new thing? Go all Baghdad Bob and claim that there's nothing /pol/ i nor around the thread, even when people can just scroll up and see all the off-topic political stuff?

You should have known the thread would be about feminist issues because that's what the episode was about. Is your complaint that it's happening in the first place (but you chose to enter this thread) or that there are two sides to the conversation (which again, pancakes pancakes everything I don't like is pancakes)?
Either ways, I don't see why you're complaining. The topic is about a very hamfisted Simpsons episode that tried to tackle a very complex issue in a very stupid way. Are you really thinking people wouldn't be talking about what that issue is about?

Or are you yet another idiot who thinks everyone who doesn't agree with you is /pol/?

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I think if you're claiming there's nothing offtopic happening in this thread, nothing at all that ought to be in /pol/, then you're either stupid or lying.

I think /pol/ should be deleted and any discussion of politics should be a 30 day ban, staring with you.

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Well the topic is about the simpson's episode about feminism, MRA rights, and internet shitflinging.
So

What's the problem?
I'm not exaggerating, that's literally what the episode is about.

I mean, you did go and read the episode summary posted above, right? Or did you just see the OP and skip to the end?

>Keeps screaming about /pol/ and calling me a poltard for pointing this out
Do you get what 'pancakes' means? It means someone who is projecting their own boogiemen so hard that they cannot stop talking about it, thus making threads into the thing they hate.

Is no one going to post lewds of the kitties?

So why did you come into a literal thread talking about a literal simpsons episode?
I think you should get it first for trying to literally derail the thread into some retarded metathread, which is also banned. Take it to /qa/, next.

Now let's talk about the Simpsons.

The biggest issue with this episode is that Bart isn't doing it to go out with one of those girls

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>/pol/
Pancakes pancakes Do you really not get what this means? Shut up about /pol/, the only one talking about it and whining and moaning about it is you.
This thread had nothing to do with /pol/ until you came around. go away. No one cares what you think, you're an ignorant shitposter.

The biggest issue is that it's yet another "everyone shits on Bart for no reason" episode.

I don't get why Bart has become the Meg of this show, but it's irritating. Meg was a joke because that was the gag, Bart being a joke seems to be people not getting what the humor in his character is supposed to be. It wasn't 'Oh what a little shit can't wait for something bad to happen to him'.

I'd be fine with that.

>This political bait thread had nothing to do with /pol/

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Yea Forums do you really want porn of these characters?
This is ugly even by Simpson's standards.

So don't talk about the Simpsons episode which is specifically about that?
Fine, fuck off.
There's the door.

Why did you even come into a simpsons thread if you didn't want people discussing the episode?

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Give me some way of delineating the difference?
It seems like anyone who is touted as a reputable feminist is inevitably dismissed as a quack whenever they say anything that is being ignored, which is fine because people should be called out for dumb things they say but it's only ever in that particular moment, and after the moment passes that very same person is made reputable again, so who are the correct feminists?

>Grab them by the pussy

Seconding this, the restraining order one is where a lot of people drew the line as well.

It all boils down to "Everyone should be shitty to bart for no real reason despite the fact he's a pretty accurate ten year old kid."

If Lisa was drawn as old as she is written to act, this would seem like some Stressed Eric shit.

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It's called STYLE, you n'wah.

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>Stressed Eric
Wait, no, that's not the same.
Lisa is a 30 year old bullying a ten year old kid in all of these episodes. Nothing Bart is doing would be considered abnormal for a ten year old, but the show acts like it's his 'just desserts'.

How is the vox article outreach? That one is just disparaging MRAs. The other isn't a out switching sides, but the fact that you see it as "sides" is indicative of the larger problem:

>Again, DeCrow framed her position as a feminist one, arguing that getting men more involved in parenting was essential if women were to achieve equality in other pursuits.
This was mentioned in the article I posted.

>She certainly never stopped being a feminist. She also never abandoned the belief—often seen in recent years as a quaint relic of 1970s unisex feminism—that men and women are far more alike than different. But if she refused to see biology as destiny, she was equally skeptical of patriarchy as destiny. In an 1994 Chicago Tribune essay on Naomi Wolf’s Fire with Fire, she proposed to “take gender out of the gender debate” and focus on the human, questioning whether men really have more power over their lives than women do: “Wolf is accurate and on target when she writes that women must move from a self-image of weakness to one of strength. But if we fail to see that which glares before our eyes—that men have frailties as we do—we only will be batting .500.”
Feminism is often at ends with itself but she was able to see the same overlap this article recognized.

>It ignores the other anomalies in society like the rate of women vs men going to college or male suicide rates.
It's not a thesis, but there's nothing in the article that would tell me that they wouldn't want to address suicide rates. College admission inequity could be explained by men working more so therefore women having more time for education, most men doing the smarter thing like going to trade school.

>The stats are cherrypicked
By this definition, all stats listed that don't include all stats available for every gender disparity conceivable is cherrypicked. It's moot at this point.

>These are two insane groups
That's not the impression the article I posted gave.

>Not wanting to dress up like Swiss Cheese

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>By this definition, all stats listed that don't include all stats available for every gender disparity conceivable is cherrypicked. It's moot at this point.
I think we need a trip to the dictionary:
cher·ry-pick·ing
/ˈCHerēˌpikiNG/
noun
noun: cherry-picking; plural noun: cherry-pickings; noun: cherrypicking; plural noun: cherrypickings

the action or practice of choosing and taking only the most beneficial or profitable items, opportunities, etc., from what is available.

When you only present the stats that make your side seem like the oppressed side, and then use this for evidence of an overarching patriarchy, that's Cherrypicking.

>That's not the impression the article I posted gave.
Only if you're already predisposed to believing in its existence. That's kind of the point of propaganda: it seems like fact if you're biased to what it's telling you.
The fact of the matter is that both sides make exactly the same claims citing exactly the same stats and draw completely separate conclusions from it because they're biased. It has no basis in logic or argumentation. It's a religious-like cult following creating an abstract concept of what it believes to be society's woes. You can explain any of these stats or approximations with simple looks into the underlying mechanics behind them, but they instead decide to blame it on a supreme being.
You basically explain the possible skepticism for yourself that the MRA's bring up:
>College admission inequity could be explained by men working more so therefore women having more time for education, most men doing the smarter thing like going to trade school.

But you don't point the same skepticism to the article you just posted which cites almost mirror images of those stats.

If you think that's okay, then please tell me because then this conversation is pointless. You've already made up your mind, and this really has nothing to do with the Simpsons anyway.

Yes.

>[[[Rotherham intensifies]]]
I went to /pol/ because of shitlibs like you, you know that?

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Christ I didn't even notice this shit
Do they even try? Do they have someone who goes over the storyboard and says "fuck, the computer made a fucked up perspective monster again, redo it."
Or do they just not care because most of their budget goes toward paying voice actors?

AH JEEZ I WONDER WHICH CHARACTER WAS GONNA DIE.

MAYBE THE ONE WHO ONLY SHOWED UP FOR LIKE 2 FUCKING EPISODES

Yeah basically this.
The only way to solve Simpsons is to not watch it. No matter what they do, don't feed the trolls

>episode of a cartoon has politics in it
>shocked that people are talking about politics

Also I'm probably not going to reply again because I'm going to bed, have a nice night.

You're ignoring how the feminist who "switched sides" is still a feminist and a lot like the person who wrote
>That doesn’t mean the world is fair to men. But if men want liberation from gender roles, they should support feminists, not MRAs.

>Feminists are advocating for more generous paternity leave, greater acceptance of men who show emotions and vulnerability, and less pressure for men to play the “masculine” role in their relationships and families.

Yes, there's going to be bias, but to deny that men have historically controlled most of the world and culture still carries the fallout from that is to willfully ignorant. Yes, things have recently changed with the college admission rate and it should be brought up more often, but that is a recent development in an age where going to college isn't as smart as going to trade school. You're right I'm not without bias, I'm just trying to figure out what they would say because in the larger victim olympics of the games that feminists and MRAs play, they excuse stats like that.
The main point that you're dismissing by seeing the article I posted as insane propaganda is that MRAs are more directly combative to feminists almost by nature. It shouldn't be that way, their issues aren't anti-feminist, but they come at these issues with an anti-feminist bias. Feminists largely don't oppose the concept of men's rights, in a vacuum there shouldn't be an issue.

A, not the.

True, I just haven't seen any feminist imply that men shouldn't have rights and their issues don't matter.

Yes.

There's so much the fandom can do with it

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It's just a cat.
Ever click on twitter?

>To deny that men have...

Listen, I don't know which side of the argument you're on, but which men? Name names, because different men have stood for radically different things, and if they were women in would be the same.

So often all the shitflinging boils down to
>Man have...
>Women have...
>Whites are...
>The blacks will...
>The Mexicans are...

And so on. None of those people have ever agreed on shit as a collective whole and they never will. You may as well be talking about the Jews owning the banks, Hitler. The moment you start talking about demographics like they're the root of all problems is the minute you've given into bigotry and missed the point of everything.

A cat is fine.

Fine Too

No, shocked that some guy would try to deny that a huge swath of this thread has little or nothing to do with the show per se. Nice damage control, though.

The people who post on twitter are a bunch of imbeciles who should be disregarded. No, wait, what's the word that means "kill every tenth person?" Right, decimated! That would be an improvement.

But it's scratchy in a dress

Nah, she has more feminine and softer features.

I guess it's all just a huge coincidence that there's no matriarchal equivalent to Islam and every US president has been male.

>but to deny that men have historically controlled most of the world and culture
Rich people controlled most of the world and culture, not "men". The literally whos that worked to death in mines, fields, battlefields, etc didn't control a dawn thing. Most men (and women) were, are and will be irrelevant to the world and its culture.

Well, she's certainly not a modest black woman surfing champion who also runs her own successful small business is America.

porn when
all of them

Yes, you can make this about class and gender. And race if you're into that.

The fun thing is that she is extremely privileged. Her mom was part of Black Panther's elite force and her dad Namor or something. She is a surfing champion because she is superhuman.

>designs that were primarily done in the early 1990's and designed to be fairly simple for animators to work with.

the writers hate Lisa, it's intentional

>02
I got the impression this was yet again completely non-self aware Simpsons writers attempting to be hip and relevant by using current (1-3 years past date) events all over again. They have tried this several times now.

Why would she join seconds after after ruining their plans to destroy the tapes?

Because she made the boys cry and humiliate boys is their actual goal

>watch early seasons
>flip to this

It just feels so fucking poorly written its not even funny. If this aired back then this topic would be far better covered like the episode with homers molestation accusation with gummy. There'd be something clever/allegory, not... this.

And yet I don't hear ANY feminist disparaging Islam's inherent patriarchal misogyny. Just crickets.

It's about class.

Islam is matriarchal

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It just hit me. Is everyone here too chickenshit to basically "give the media monguls a taste of their own medicine?"

Ie. Make their favorite golden cows the VILLAIN in stories? Or are you so afraid of what the media will do to you? If you haven't guessed yet, the media's getting raked over being fake for almost everything. Now's the perfect time to make stories to put THEM in the villain's role. Too long have we seen villains writing themselves as heroes in media lately.

>Too long have we seen villains writing themselves as heroes in media lately.
This sounds like a perspective problem.

The only way I can see that you could have missed them is that you only pay attention to stupid internet feminists on tumblr.Activism to aid women in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia is a big deal for many feminists. The critiques about "rape culture," if you actually read the sources rather than third-hand accounts by bloggers and twitheads, frequently cite Islamic nations as what you get when those cultural tendencies (she shouldn't have gone outside like that if she didn't want it-> women who get raped are sluts -> throw acid in that whore's face) go unopposed and fester.

That dirty cheat

>stupid internet feminists on tumblr.

Yes, just Tumblr. Totally not places like Everyday Feminists, The Mary Sue, The Guardian, and of course, Tumblr's NEW favourite spot, TWITTER. (Since Tumblr's pretty much dead these days)

That's my problem with almost all of Marvel's characters these days, somehow we got to a point where they're these rich, privileged assholes who live in skyscrapers and shit, and act like they had to work to get where they are when they didn't.

Don't forget any attempt to highlight those issues whether you're a feminist or not gets you banned from TWitter for being Islamophobic. Even down to criticising how blatantly pandering the NZ Politicians are regarding the recent shootings.

...

That's an extension of pop internet feminism. It's like wondering why iflscience isn't shared by the STEM community, but rather by the Rick and Morty community.

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NO...................................................

........................but i knew it..............

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That might be a problem since Twitter DOMINATES mainstream discourse these days. Almost EVERY corporation and political party follows TWitter.

It's a place to get statements out. It's what our president did 58 times in less than two days.

No anime characters

>No Lady Oscar
>No Sayaka
>No Yuria
>No Saori Kido
>No Marin
>No Bulma
>No Candy
>No Princesss Safiro

>Inb4 go back to Yea Forums!!

Why do the simpsons love to get things wrong for strawmen!?

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Well that's why it's called Pop Feminism. You don't get to complain about feminism getting a bad rap when pop culture ENCOURAGES the bad actors who get tons and tons of influence.

Absolutely. Twitter fosters the worst, stupidest level of discourse. It's like the bumper sticker became the dominant form of political discussion, and it's awful.

>You don't get to complain

Fuck you, we need more people to complain about it to raise awareness of the problem.
Also, pic related.

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That makes no sense. You thinking feminism is some sort of hivemind led by Anita is your fault. The bad actors, the idiots are a factor, but as a factor of your problem, it's between you and it.

Well, I don't see anybody telling pop feminism to fuck off witht their bullshit. You expect the average human to ignore them when they have the power to punish them for doing so?

Face it. The big voices are all for islam and hating men, while parasiting off the effirta of real feminism and drowning out the voices they don't want to hear, like thr feminists who criticise transexuals.

Tl;dr Pop Feminism is the dominant voice and they rule over all.

i havent heard of the term pop feminism, but it kinda works, but i think inter-sectional feminism its more accurate.

>The big voices are all for islam and hating men,
Who are the big voices? Random bitches cherrypicked and posted on Yea Forums saying some out of context edgy bullshit burried behind layers of irony and "punching upwards"? I don't think I've seen feminists support Islam outside of one clickbait article. Can hardly call it something "all the big voices" are doing.

Who hates men and supports islam?

Who needs to cherry pick when you can get all of this from page 1 and 2?

Page one and two of what? What are they saying?

>doesn't name any names

Also, you do know google automatically tailors your individual search results to what they think you want, right? Not everybody is going to see the same search results as you.

So you mean to tell me THAt's verboten? So we're just going to have sit here and LET them demonise us and everything we like?

Where are you getting that from? From the way you speak about this problem and reply to these responses, it's becoming more clear that the problem is mostly in your head. I don't feel demonized and everything I like is safe. Whatever marketing bullshit some company does to be more feminist or less feminist is just the nature of pop culture shit.

Meh episode, though Girl Scratchy was cute

Yeah, it had a few fun moments, but was poorly written and executed overall. The ending was especially lazy and forced. Everyone turning on Milhouse felt out of left field, and Lisa's repeated flip-flopping on the Bossy Riot girls just felt like the writers didn't have a handle on what to do, and just took the easy way out, as usual.

Okay, in all seriousness, I just want to see SJWs get depicted as villains for once for a laugh. Marvel and most of media side with them even when they shouldn't. Not asking them to be nice to MAGAtards. Just to spread their nastiness to SJWs, is all I ask.In other words, I'd like to see the Sinfest tier characters get raked.

It felt like the boys turned on Milhouse at the end because the writers realize at that very moment they had to go back to the status quo, hence them turning on him for no reason.

Yeah, that's how it felt to me. Lazy and unimaginative.

>Okay, in all seriousness, I just want to see SJWs get depicted as villains for once for a laugh. Marvel and most of media side with them even when they shouldn't.
If they want to take on progressive bullies doxxing people, fine, but "SJW"s are generally the superhero type; fighting for a more fair and just society against sexists, racists, homophobic, etc. people is more heroic than punching down onto them for daring to say they like representation or they don't like sexism.

Ah, so Frollo types then.

The doxxing types.