>gets fucked over by the Miller's daughter
>Shrek ruins his deal with the king and queen
>kingdom is so goody goody happy that no one wants to make deals so he can't make money and is impoverished
>his goose dies
Was he really that bad? He was a victim of circumstance
>be loathsome little midget
>putt all your eggs in the "usury" basket
>want to steal literal babies for some creepy reason
>for some creepy reason
There are plenty of non-creepy reasons to steal babies
I mean the baby's dad was a king who was like "Yeah I'll murder you unless you spin straw into gold... aww you did it enough times, let's get married" so he was likely saving the baby from years under an abusive tyrant who would surely always wonder if the child could spin straw into gold, likely resulting in a series of escalating incidents where the king locks his daughter in a room filled with straw, believing she could wield her mother's now-lost 'power,' only to spin into a violent range when she can't.
So really, he was doing them a favor.
Didn't you guys learn from Hearts of Stone? Rumplestiltskin is the Devil.
Gaunter O'Dimm isn't Rumplestiltskin
Just what exactly is he? A demon or a fairy?
>>Series with constant strong allusions to fairytales
>>Makes deals that promise miraculous results for terrible prices
>>Known by many names but refuses to share his true name
Come on man
Definitely a demon of some kind, way more powerful than anything else in that world. Notice his initials?
Gaunter
O'
Dimm
White people can't be victims of circumstance, sorry.
Not Gaunter, I mean Rumplestiltskin. What the hell is he?
you make a good point about the king, he definitely kidnapped people and made them perform magic tasks under threat of execution.
Maybe the king kind of low-key forced a marriage with the miller's daughter, and maybe the baby never should have occurred at all.
A demon. Probably a really weak one
He takes souls not children. He's not Rumpelstiltskin.
Comes off as a standard fable Devil if anything.
Gaunter IS based on Polish folk tales about the devil trying to get the soul of someone.
Rumplestiltskin has its roots in stories about tricking the devil
Gaunter O'Dimm seems to be a combination of several demonic archetypes. Satan, Mephisopholes, Old Scratch, Hecate, Rumplestiltskin.
...we have those?
According to the wiki? Seems like it.
Considering his deal with the king and queen involved deleting them from existence, yes, he was pretty bad.
Pan Twordowski
Did they use the same VA for Humpty Dumpty?
Twardowski.
He ran away to the moon on a giant Rooster.
Better than what he got in Goon
he is a con man, con men are by definition evil and unsympathetic. They play on your vulnerabilities and they themselves tend to feign or even embrace vulnerability to further their own schemes. He wants you to feel bad for him just so he can take advantage of it.
>want to steal literal babies for some creepy reason
Folklore wise, he probably wanted the child to either raise as his own or to be a servant. Which I guess both are creepy? Then again in the original tale he does have pity on the miller's daughter multiple times, even to the point of allowing her a way out of the deal because he's moved by her tears.
Shrek Rumpelstiltskin... who knows.
>Considering his deal with the king and queen involved deleting them from existence, yes, he was pretty bad.
fair point