Star Vs The Forces of Evil season 4

Episode 4 >Yadda Yadda Berries / Down by the river
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epsiode 5 >The Ponyhead / Surviving the Spiderbites
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epsiode 4 definetly had more to offer to the whole eclipsa being queen situation and revealing that even monsters don't like her (though they are shown to be retarded).

As well as (potentionally) building up conflict between Moon's new settlement and Eclipsa

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episode five was mainly there to inspire more porn of these two. Nefcy you mad woman

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Is there a mega link with every episode?

Who sent the yada yada berries though?

there is but im not the faggt who has em

You know there is a good chunk of problems with SvtfoE in general, but if there's one thing I can praise the series for, it's that I genuinely don't know how it's going to end. They did a really good job portraying Eclipsa in this grey area where she could turn good or evil at any moment and both answers would feel logical and earned compared to other shows where the "traitor twist" (whether it's "I was an infiltrated good guy" or "I was bad all along nya ha ha") comes out of nowhere.

In unrelated news, I claim this background cutie.

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I'm hesitating between cute loli(s) for cuddles

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and breeding material for mating press.

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Top of the evening from Manila! Fresh from "misseps"!!!

Here's the exclusive short state message direct from the "Millennium Ring" forum now:
"Added episode 5 and 6 to the folder."

In ya go... your welcome! TV Version in your cable sets in a half-hour or more in a meantime.

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>Is there a mega link with every episode?
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This seals the deal on how this shows going

I'm not quite sure. But if it keeps going the way it's gone
> Eclipsa continues to try to bring Globgor back
> Star reassembles the book
> Moon builds an entire new city from scratch just with her own blood and sweat and that of any Mewmans that move in
> Eclipsa finds a way to unleash Globgor
> Globgor is every bit as bloodthirsty as the legends foretell
> cue some lengthy flashback to give him a redeeming backstory
> now slaughtering all Mewmans in his path was perfectly justified and okay and should be forgiven
> Mewmans admit that they are forever evil and can do no right and hand over the new city that Moon built to Globgor

It was nice seeing Star get blown the fuck out about the Spiderbites and monsters. They're completely in the right about Globgor and Eclipsa. Also, its weird noting how they were the only ones willing to visit Eclipsa when Star is dating a Lucitor and best friend's with a Ponyhead.

I mean we literally just had an episode which made it rather clear that Tom's mother hates Star and Ponyhead did meet with Eclipsa or at least tried to, Ponyhead is crazy.

This show fucking sucks. It's a bunch of political drama nobody cares about.

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was a surprise that Spiderbites had no problem with the daughter dating a monster.

seems that the monster;mewmans war is very focused in the mewni kimgdom.

I care more about the political drama than the shipping wars by now

hell this political shit is better than the last two seasons of game of thrones, although that's saying extremely little

You forgot the part where Globgor persuades Marco with powerful monologue like pic related

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Tom and his family’s entire existence is to be compartmentalized into shipping drama. I wish I was joking but that’s the truth of the matter.

All I ever wanted from this show was for Marco and Star to be cute together. But now it's pretty obvious we're never getting that.

Instead the final season is about how everybody hates poor Eclipsa.

Someone is a butthurt shippe-
Knew it.

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I agree with all of this. The complete unknown of what's going to happen in the end is great.

I like the cat.

They will be at least one more time tho.

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Not really shipping. The show was sold on the Star-Marco relationship.

Now it's about some old lady.

Eclipsa is such a Mary Sue that it's goddamn ridiculous.

You can't legitimately act like you lost everything when you didn't like the state of Mewni 300+ years ago, you have it the way you would have wanted it to be now, your daughter is back exactly as she was before you were crystallized, and you at least have the means of freeing your husband even if he's not with you at the moment. Like he is literally not fucking dead. Not to even mention how now she's surrounded by people who serve her every whim, decorate her home all over with her image, and suck her dick.

Fuck Eclipsa. Her song sucked and she's taken over the show and she's a terrible shit character that the writers have fallen in love with. I admit her design and concept were cool, but all of her fans are just coasting on their own impressions of that concept from nearly 3 years ago, before the full extent of her shit character was revealed.

I haven't watched Spiderbites yet so if there's something revealed there I don't know then welp sorry. Eclipsa is just so shit and the ending of Pony Head Show just inspired me to hate on her more

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>B-But-But I wanted muh cute and perfect!

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oh come on dude, its obvious what is going on, Eclipsa was in a love triangle, Star is in a love triangle

Eclipsa wanted Globgor the guy she wasn't suppose to instead of the Prince she actually married

Star wants Marco instead of Tom the prince her family expects her to marry

I'm not gonna try and predict exactly what happens but it isn't much of a leap to realize that Eclipsa's relationship problems and Star's relationship problems might be similar and their resolution might be linked

>I haven't watched Spiderbites yet so if there's something revealed there I don't know then welp sorry.

No, it's just kind of more of the same. All this Eclipsa shit just needed one dedicated episode to it. Not a bunch of them throughout the season.

And she doesn't even CARE that she's not liked by the Mewmans so I'm not even gonna pretend that's a flaw unless they go French Revolution on her ass and parade her head through the city. Bitch does not give a fuck.

At least she'd be more sympathetic if she was more obviously nervous about how she'd be viewed or hurt by their rejection or some shit, if they're really going for her being the kindest and most forgiving and perfect person ever. Otherwise, why should we care? I sympathize more with the Mewmans.

Considering her name is the title of the show, it's not really that unreasonable.

Are you saying I was wrong to want that?

Always go for breeding material.

>Fuck Eclipsa. Her song sucked
I mean it was the point, isn't it? That she half-assed a cutesy song and hoped everything would go back to normal?

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I really think you don't understand what a Mary Sue is and I really don't think you're watching the same show

I think it was rather clear from the first episode of the season that Eclipsa's reign is going to end in disaster

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR, Yea Forums!!!!! Starco will never happen at this rate, there are only a few episodes left for this part of the season and they've barely interacted!

It's not too late to become a Kellybro is it? IT IS? FUCK!!!!!!!!!! Well I guess there is only one other option left...

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dont worry, will be avatar last airbender again.
Star and Marco will kiss in the last episode in the last second.

you realize an episode next week is a full half hour titled "The Curse of the Blood Moon" right?

not every episode needs to be 100% shipping bait

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>Yea Forums

Get the fuck out of here.

It doesn't have to be shipping bait but Star and Marco practically never share screen time anymore. The show was about Star and Marco sharing screen time for the first two seasons. Even if it wasn't shipping related.

How did we get to this point where wanting to see Star and Marco together gets accused of being shipping?

Post the facial features of Starcocucks they will be having when Blood Moon Curse has absolutely no shipping moments with Star and Marco in it whatsoever.

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Yeah, didn't there use to be a different main character? Star or some shit? Can't remember.

Well, technically that was all Star's idea, not Eclipsa's.

Out of universe I'm sure the song is meant to be liked by fans, and the little girl at the end symbolizes the younger more openminded generation preparing to grow up and suck her dick.

I think it applies. I'm not saying she's at the level of a fan fic character but compared to everyone else, like Star or Moon or whatever, she's way the fuck up where. Although if there's a better show I haven't seen where Eclipsa's not complete garbage, I'd rather be watching that one.

I agree with you that the tension does seem to be ramping up in Mewni. But that seems to be presented as a flaw of the Mewmans themselves, and not Eclipsa.

At worst all you can say is that Eclipsa's new policies etc. are short-sighted/naïve, but I don't see that as a flaw because this naivety is being presented as her hoping/expecting everyone else to be as pure and virtuous as she is depicted.

I'm hoping for more episodes like Swim Suit where Eclipsa is given actual flaws, but the 3 out of 4 segments I've seen today are not like that. I would like more moments where Eclipsa does shit that's objectively wrong in the universe of the show, but I'm not expecting them at this rate.

I expected Tom to be taken more seriously since he is trying to be a better prince, but that isn't the case apparently. I got to know more about the Spiderbites history and lore in one episode versus the countless episodes about Tom and his family.

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I think that you misunderstand the title of the episode.
It will be about killing Starco once and for all.
(the face is still appropriate tho)

you mean other than trying to free her man-eating husband?

Come on are you seriously so dumb that you actually believe her when she says she is gonna keep him locked up?

Not even Star believed that, which is why she didn't return the book to Eclipsa because she doesn't trust that Eclipsa actually wanted the book to help people, but instead would use it to try to free Globgor

Narratively I'd expect that, but after the last season or so I'm not expecting the show to actually do some of what it seems to be setting up. The way Ponyhead Show ended does not seem to be what you'd do for a character meant to be portrayed in any way as ambiguous.

I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to about a book being used to free Globgor, unless that's something from the last segment of today which so far I've only seen about 2 minutes of. At the moment it SEEMS like Star should be queen, since within this segment she's the one doing shit while Eclipsa's off somewhere else, but I don't expect the show to follow up on that in a satisfying way given the last season. I'm also sure that within the next 5 minutes of this segment Eclipsa's completely legitimate reason for being gone will be revealed.

yeah never gonna happen and even if it does, its probably just to bait us into thinking its dead so it can come back in the last episode

I will believe Starco isn't canon when the show has ended without it being canon otherwise I just assume they are waiting til the end

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wellp considering the topic and this piece of art, might as well post this entire thing

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>Come on are you seriously so dumb that you actually believe her when she says she is gonna keep him locked up?
If she truly wanted to free him above everyone else's safety, she would already have.
If anything, she wants the book to free Globgor AND pacify his murderous intention through magic and it will obviously backfire.

Eclipsa was trying to find if any of the book survived Ludo's fire because she could remake the whole book from any piece with magic, Star questioned if she wanted the book to try and find a way to free Globgor, Eclipsa claims she just wanted it to learn spells to help others since she claims she can only invent spells that help herself

Star doesn't seem to buy this though going to her closet where the last shard of the book which was used to revive Golseryk is hidden and she keeps it hidden not trusting that Eclipsa was really telling the truth and being more worried than ever about Globgor after what the Spiderbite family tells her about him

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except for the part where Star physically stopped her and made it clear that if she did that to free Globgor, then Star would turn on her and from everything we have seen this season it seems like Star is even more powerful then Eclipsa even without the wand

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I'm really surprised by how much I ship this couple. It's one of the most casual, stable relationships in the show and I just relish the simplicity of a good fit.

Star was the most powerful ever since she brought herself back from being dead.

She just fucking deleted Toffee without even using Eclipsa's gay-ass spell.

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No one can see her from that angle, and it doesn't look like a "damn, my perfect plan will be ruined" kind of face.
But to be fair, Disney already bamboozled us with that in the past, so...

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its true but it wasn't actually clear last season that she was more powerful than Eclipsa because Eclipsa wasn't allowed to use magic most of the season

now its very clear that Star is a prodigy even greater than her when before Star was noted as having been the best since Eclipsa

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>my best friend
HAHA OOOUUUUHHHHHH

The first episode had Star and Marco go on adventure searching for the person who tried to poison Eclipsa. For the case of the last episode it made sense that they were separated for the plot. Star was preoccupied entertaining the Spiderbites, and Marco had to babysit Meteroa for Eclipsa. At this point its obvious the staff is deliberately holding off Starco, but I'm loving the Star, Marco, and Eclipsa dynamic for now. Eclipsa truly is a Starco shipper.

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The mewmans are inbreed hicks that vote for Drumf

>don’t talk to me or my best friend ever again

its more like monsters are Jews and mewmans are Palestinians

Oh wow, and there's even a completely legitimate reason for Globgor to have eaten Shastacan too. Great. Can't wait to hear this fucking bullshit.

And the monsters performing the "Dance of Death" was treated as STAR's fault and not Eclipsa's, even though Eclipsa as the monsterfucker is the one who would know that shit and the monsters doing it seem obviously depicted as children and wouldn't know any better than Star.

Fuck Eclipsa and this stupid show.

>Oh wow, and there's even a completely legitimate reason for Globgor to have eaten Shastacan too.

It'll probably be that Shastacan deliberately got into Globgor's mouth and literally pulled Globgor's jaw closed around himself.

there isn't a good reason, Eclipsa is just blinded by her love for him, its so fucking obvious

also the issue isn't that the monsters knew or did the Dance of Death, it was that Star had it preformed for King and Queen Spiderbite, which was clearly stupid but Star apparently knows very little about history or politics, so she didn't realize the dance was about murdering their ancestor

I think the inbreed hicks are closer to the authorial intent. They see themselves as the Mewni nobility, surrounded by ignorant masses that can't live without their guide and shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion

I think you're projecting your persecution complex

to be perfectly honest I don't think any modern or historical race or political metaphors really fit the situation in the show, people will of course see similarities but it is possible to write an original racial conflict, it doesn't have to be an allegory to real world peoples

No breakfast for you mister.

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My point is, how the fuck is Star expected to know about it, period, when Eclipsa is blameless?

Eclipsa is the one who hauled the art in and has all those monsters serving her. It seems obvious she brought them in and obvious that Star at least has seen them perform before.

And yet Eclipsa hasn't said or done a thing about that, and Star is expected to be clairvoyant and not only know that this seemingly innocuous dance (1) has a deeper meaning, (2) is potentially offensive to the Spiderbites, and (3) that Globgor fucking ate Shastacan, which going by this episode she doesn't seem to have heard before.

All of this seems to be obviously Eclipsa's fault, for not caring enough to prepare for this or not seeing how the shit she likes could be very easily viewed as offensive by the guests she's supposed to meet, but instead it's all Star's, the literal fucking teenager who's sucking her dick and has unwavering faith in her despite no longer having any obligation to even be babysitting her like this, for reasons that aren't even clear to me. I would even take it as a character development/flaw thing in the vein of Swim Suit, if it were ECLIPSA saying "you must hate monsters" and being called out for it, but instead it was just Star's because ???

Eclipsa can do no wrong, I guess.

you really are just watching a different show, or you just desire to rage at Eclipsa and call her a mary sue snowflake who can do no wrong no matter what

What do you need Star to literally call Eclipsa a bad person to her face and cus her out? Did you not get the bit where Star clearly doesn't trust Eclipsa anymore at the end of that episode?

now I'm getting flashbacks to my kindergarten years

>Eclipsa can do no wrong
Beside ditching Star to find pieces of the book?
Beside nearly killing Rhombulus?
I can't understand the "Mary Sue" argument when she is clearly shown being a lightheaded and selfish person. And I'm not "overanalyzing" or anything, it is clearly shown.

Yes

Why is it so wrong to want Star and Marco on Star and Marco's show?

>Yea Forums

Also; it is very highly fucking concerning.
Nafcy's ultimate plan was to drop the romantic subplot towards the end to give us all blue balls, whether we loved it or hated it.

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her plan was to cuck her entire fanbase

Is not called "the Star and Marco show", plus is like asking " why don't Batman and Robin fuck?"

Nefcy you madwoman

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The show's actually doing well showing the gray. So maybe the Monsters will cool their shit a bit.

I mean, holy fuck, that one where the Monsters move into a home and kick out the mewmans? Woop di fucking do your greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandmother lived in a house she was kicked out of. Current family living there is now homeless.

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To be fair to the show, I hadn't watched the last minute of the episode at the time I made that post. I have now. It's an interesting ending for sure.

I don't need the show to say she's bad. I'd just like to see more of her actual flaws illustrated sooner rather than later, because it seems like in today's episodes they were laying it on kind of thick.

At the moment I'm just complaining because I'm waiting for this to have larger consequences. It's still possible at this point that they can have her do all those things AND completely justify her motives as right:

>her husband doesn't deserve to be crystallized by Rhombulus so it's fine for her to hijack Rhombulus's body
>the book is more important than the Spiderbites visiting so it's fine that she looked for the book

I would like to see more actual negative consequences occur in the show, to her or others, and not just come close to occurring, or for her to do something that doesn't have a purely just motive. I get that the second one won't likely happen since even if she is portrayed worse further down the line I'm sure they'd still want her to be more gray than a villain, BUT then it also turns me off that she's so completely kind to everyone and doesn't seem to have any personal flaws either. I wouldn't be calling her a Mary Sue as much if she seemed to dislike the Mewmans or perhaps was portrayed as antisocial or something.

Something so that she doesn't just come off as the cool kind life of the party who you'd be crazy to hate as much as the Mewmans do in the show, which seems to be the intention anyway so I know this complaint is kind of pointless.

>no progress for any Starco at this point of the season
I was afraid this was going to happen but it's set in stone now. If Starco does happen it'll be rushed and forced. I feel like the writers said "you want Starco? here you go, forced and rushed."

That’s a terrible comparison.

>I hadn't watched the last minute of the episode at the time I made that post
>stopping an episode before the end to argue with people on Yea Forums
The heck is wrong with you?

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I'm not incredibly interested in Star Vs. + Eclipsa episodes right now/I don't have headphones right now and so I have to keep going back to catch some of the dialogue anyway because the volume's low/sometimes the mega would just pause and I'd have to reload the entire page and video.

Like each of these segments takes forever to get through while I'm watching it like this, so I end up with a lot of time to think about Eclipsa.

It does well to show why the mewmans have grievance with Eclipsa, if she was a truly capable queen she'd look for a practical solution that prevents leaving the people she's supposed to lead homeless. She doesn't even seem to want to be queen, she could easily appoint Star or Moon as queen.

This is something that confuses me. If Star is supposed to be more powerful than Eclipsa, how did Meteora beat Star last season and then get taken down by Eclipsa with like three spells?

Closest I can think of is Cyprus.

why dont they just say murder?

Disney. Also it's not murder, it's petrification.

Toffee isnt inside Moon, this is how he comes back. rebuilt by magic silk bugs

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is just because he can heal their skin dude

Also I guess I'm just less likely to pause it and post stupid shit like this if I'm really into the episode. Last week I watched many of the episodes at once. This one wasn't even that bad but I was on a roll after making that first post about Ponyhead Show.

Either way, I still finished the episode within the space of ~40 minutes or so even if I interrupted it with dumb Yea Forums stuff. It's not like I watch a minute a day and then complain about it anyway.

two guesses

either going to the realm of magic multiple times has made Star more powerful

or Eclipsa knows more about monsters, especially her daughter, and therefore knew which kind of the spells would and wouldn't be effective

One more week

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Huh, Kelly thought pro-wrestling was real.

reposting the song becuase i noticed in the last thread an user wanted it

dies finale

The day of wrath, that day
will degrade us to shitposting,
with Yea Forums being witness along with Tumblr.

How great will be the Reeeing,
when the Endgame is to come,
laying waste to all ships and theories.

The megas, carrying new episodes
through the depths of the forums,
will summon all to watch the show.

tripfag and user will marvel,
when the theory will rise again,
to respond to the lore.

The screencaps will be brought forth,
in which all is contained,
from which the theory shall be judged.

When therefore we Judge and sit,
whatever lies hidden will be shown:
nothing will remain undisscussed.

What then will I, poor wretch [that I am], watch?
Which show will I revere,
when [even] the newcommers may [only] hardly be good?

Queen of fearsome rusing,
Who freely teases those that are on ships,
save me, oh grant me mercy.

Remember, merciful nefcy,
that I am the cause of Thy ratings:
lest Thou lose my interest.

Seeking me, Thou sattest tired:
Thou redeemedst [me], having suffered the hiatus:
let not so much waiting be in vain.

Just Judge of quality,
make a gift of Starco
before the day of reckoning.

I sigh, like the guilty one:
my face reddens in guilt:
Spare the shitposting one, O God.

Thou who curses nefcy,
and denounces the show,
gavest rage to me, too.

My praises are not worthy:
but do Thou, [whos content], graciously grant
that I not be burned up by the everlasting ships.

Grant me a place among the fans,
and take me out from among the hate,
setting me on the right side.

Once the shitposters have been silenced,
sentenced to the bans:
Call Thou me with the blessed.

[Humbly] kneeling and bowed I pray,
[my] heart crushed as ashes:
take care of my favorite characters.

Tearful [will be] that day,
on which from the ashes starco will arise
the guilty tom who is to be cucked.
Then spare him, O God.

Merciful Lord nefcy,
grant them rest. Amen.

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As good an explanation as any I guess, still seems odd to me though.

What's the deal with Rasticore?
How come he can regenerate his eye and arm when the last time he did this, he couldn't.

he just hadnt enought time to do it.

The only good part from the episodes is when they focus on Moon and the Mewmans. I really like that it seems like they are making another nation. No need to interact with disgusting monsters.

because they are too stupid to take care of themselfs. Taking their home was a dick movie thou

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Nobody is forcing Star to date Tom except for herself.

At least in this instance Moon and River are teaching them, rather than ruling them.

It went out of its way to show that Moon isn't doing anything. The Mewmans got a leader and Moon got a purpose.

yeah, they can have two separate but equal kingdoms, I'm sure that will work out and never lead to conflict in anyway

give it a minute, they will rule them again. But this time they will be stronger, strong enough to take back mewni. calling it now, this show gonna end in civil war, mewman vs mosters, Moon vs Eclipsa, and somehow will find a way to make everything worse before saving the day from the mess she created.

Are monsters supposed to be black people?

If Eclipsa is putting the needs of her monster lover race than her own, the Mewmans have the right to be angry about that. Civil war is the only way this could end.

no, there is no allegory here, its just a fictional racial conflict in a fantasy world

>oh yeah, you cover up those dark secrets
well. I guess she learned.
the Spiderbites laughing at Elipsa's "dead" husband was painful thou

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They won't. It's supposed to come across as a good thing, that's why the monsters aren't shown to be in any way angry. Though I was surprised when I saw them actually showing that family winding up homeless on-screen. I mean anyone who watches this is bound to find it cruel. Did they think people wouldn't , just because that family has a bit of a southern touch to them?
It's generally part of something that always fascinated me about this show which keeps me interested. Nefcy is very obviously trying to make it the second Steven Universe, or rather a more racial Steven Universe but she goes at it with a certain sincerity and (unintended) self-awareness that makes the political messaging seem a lot less one-sided than intended.
She will have Star make a crusade for monster rights her calling to convey that it's the right thing to do, and how evil others are for not jumping on the bandwagon on command. But she then winds up having the character go overboard with it so much, she looks unreasonable in the process. She will try to write monsters and their sympathisers as nice people, but have Eclipsa put art on display that celebrates ruthless mass slaughter. She (admittedly) projects traits and behaviours from her exes onto Tom in an attempt to make him unlikable, but winds up making the viewer sympathise with him instead. She will have Star say she's a strong independent princess who don't need no man, only to not even be able to carry her luggage and to later indeed need Marco's and Tom's help after all.
I don't know what the cause of it is. Perhaps she has other writers looking over her shoulder and deliberately making her avoid making it SU2, perhaps there is just a disconnect between how she expects things to come across and how they do come across.

Yes. She is trying very hard to make it WeWuzKangz: The show.

If you think black people eat people then sure, why not?

>Eclipsa: I just want the mewmans to trust me as their new queen
>Also Eclipsa: Sorry, your mewman family has to leave your home because reparations and shit
What the fuck was that all about?

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Couldn't resist while I was here and saw you insinuating otherwise.

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nah your just a /pol/tard

try watching something and then forming an opinion about it rather than forming your opinion and then bitching about stuff you imagined

so, whats the deal with this DNA stealing phones?

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Eclipsa's dumb

I’m generalizing, but Nefcy is a Californian born in L.A., she’s likely completely naive about circumstances about displacing people and the causes of racism in society. So we see monsters being portrayed as comically clean upstanding citizens and Mewmans as racist inbred idiots, as a reflection of Nefcy’s own world views.

We do see some compromises, but with the exception of Eclipsa and Tom’s parents, I honestly can’t name any adults who are portrayed as being on good terms with monsters.

Call me when Janna shows up.

She’s selfish and shouldn’t be queen, Star made the wrong decision to abdicate and not giving Eclipsa the book shard shows she’s second guessing herself.

A joke on handing over too much of your personal data to large companies.

Marco's parents went along fantastically with Heinous, though.

oh, I thought it would be there something more to it.

Funny, Moon basic started the creation of a new village, maybe a entire new kingdom.

more and more mewmans are going to live there and learn how to live with no magic.

imagine if the series ends with monsters on Eclipsa kingdom and Mewmans on Moon new village.

soon to be gang banged in the citadel of marcos

>some times different races just can't work and live together
Nefcy red pilling all the kids

>perhaps there is just a disconnect between how she expects things to come across and how they do come across.

I've thought this as well with the monster stuff. Especially with regard to portraying monsters as incredibly dangerous and seeming to justify Mewman prejudice.

they always lived without magic, and as soon as they organized they will star demanding to get their homes back, putting Moon in a tough position. and it will suck for Eclipsa since Moon is way more respected and feared than her. Eclipsa will get cornered, and feel like her only choice is to release Globgor

>if there's one thing I can praise the series for, it's that I genuinely don't know how it's going to end.

I complain SO MUCH about this show but you know what, it's got me there. I agree.

yeah, it will end with a war between Eclipsa and Moon

By starting her own kingdom Moon is basically calling Eclipsa illegitimate

This is why you don't just let a monarch go free even if they technically abdicated the throne

And then Globgor gets released and goes on a murder spree, eating everyone in sight!

Even though this might not happen, Globgor's getting out of that crystal eventually.

>they always lived without magic

no, everything mewmans had was made with magic.
their food, clothes, economy, everything was provided by the royal family magical wand.

heck the mewmans dont even know the food they eat grow in the ground.

Moon will teach them the basics on agriculture and they will become the first mewman kingdom independent from a queen.

Why do people bother with webrips
When webdls are already out

Also where do these get put up
None of the public trackers have them until much later in time
Cartoonchaos? Wish i knew how to get in

well obviously

Chekhov's Imprisoned Monster always gets out

that what you meant. in that case, yeah

what you guys thought, about Eclipsa's song.
gonna be honest, is a nice song but I didnt like it. Eclipsa life is sad as fuck, especially with her "Im used to everyone hating me" lines, but I expected something with a little more energy coming from her, something about keep fighting or trying harder

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Can we get more Moon & River episodes? They have got the cute and perfect we have been missing ever since Star decided that she loves Eclipsa and random barbarian girls more than Marco.

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all the while you did the exact thing that you berated that user for, have a (you) and a cool pic out of pity

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they are the same web-dls from disneynow, just mislabeled

By now I don't even remember the tune. I wouldn't honestly call it "bad" but this cartoon alone has had better songs.

But then I also just cannot see Eclipsa's life as sad so I get I'm not really the audience they wanted to hit.

I think this was on purpose.
If it had been a hype song like "The Ballad of Star Butterfly" the Mewmans would have look like grumpy assholes.
Here it's a cute song, so it obviously didn't satisfy the angry adults but it was sweet enough that the kids liked it.

I still wish they had made the 2nd verse of the Ballad of Star Butterfly into the opening theme song

it would be so much more hype than the original one

So does Yea Forums

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I'm a survivor
I'm not gon' give up
I'm not gon' stop
I'm gon' work harder

yes please! we need more of Nefcy's husband and the cute Spiderbite princess.

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wait, I tought Marco was her husband insert

ding-dong diddly

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>You should come make it at my house sometimes
Can we talk about this for a minute?
cause that was fucking cute

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Bobby voices Slime.

shit, we need to hear that guy sing more songs, I still get chills on the "We will keep your silence for you" part
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I understand that she's trying to come across as likeable and wants her citizens to give her a chance. But let's look at the lyrics:

>Imagine waking up to a world turned upside down
>Those you know are gone and suddenly you have the crown
>Here I am, this is me, brokenhearted but finally free
>Never quite fit the mold,
>Just not great at doing what I'm told
>Now I'm here in your world
>So much bigger from my point of view
>Centuries from my home
>Can't go back so let's start something new
>Here I am, this is me
>Openhearted I proudly decree
>Now as Queen, I am yours
>Let's make magic and reach for the stars
>Let's make magic and reach for the stars

I kinda like the political stuff. At least the show actually acknowledges that after a dramatic event, there are consequences and things still to deal with.

It's not fake, it's predetermined.

>Star knows
>Eclipsa doesn't care

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>Betray her kindom, twice
>Take people's homes
>Why do they hate me?

they so going start to date just to creat more drama later with Starco

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It was. I thought it was going to have a joke involving her ambushing him in her house and wrestling him while saying something like "IS THIS FAKE, MARCO?!" but I'm kind of glad they didn't go that way with it.

it would be really dumb for them to star dating just for Star to turn around and
>I know you have a girlfriend, but now I want you
thou it would be really funny for Star to only want Marco when he is in relationship with someone else, and in character

The biggest thing I want out of this episode is more cute pics of Spiderbite Princess and Slime

Also, they have such a nice, stable and healthy relationship it almost feels like it doesn't belong in the show.

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How do you contain such autism in your daily life?

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that would be better than what they did with it, nothing

that doesn't look like it's only a hug

So she's saying she's distracted by the death of everyone she knew before being crystallized (understandable), she never suited the position of Queen, she's out of her depth because of how much things have changed since she was Queen, and she's asking for her citizens to trust her and promises that together they'll all benefit and the kingdom will know an age of prosperity.

She already had a bad reputation for running off with a mewman-eating monster, Globgor, for which she was crystallized and took over from a popular, well liked, well respected Queen. Now let's look at what she's done in practice since becoming Queen:

>The monsters who are feared and despised by the citizens of the kingdom, rightly or wrongly, are to be incorporated into general society
>She relocates the Royal Palace to a monster temple of worship
>Citizens are removed from their property by royal decree and monsters will be given possession of their lands and contents, the citizens are given no compensation or means to live after this
>Her time is spent using every resource at her disposal to Globgor from his own crystal prison
>When she can't accomplish this, she mind-controls a powerful magic user and cosmic law-enforcer to free him
>When this fails she takes possession of his body and nearly accomplishes this, only for Star to talk her back from it at literally the last second
>Her attempts to force integration with society is seen as a failure by both monsters and mewmans to the point that multiple people attempt to assassinate her, which she brushes off
>She neglects relationships with foreign allies because she's distracted looking for magical heirlooms which she says will help her learn the kind of magic that will help her citizens (but doesn't specify what this is)

Half of what she's done is grounds for open rebellion, being deposed and a trip to the guillotine. I'd give her song a frowny face too.

You never hugged your homies while they sat in your lap facing you?

I'd like to see luchador Kelly, but would it be racist to it with Marco?

The ultimate level of cuck fetishism. The madwoman can't be stopped!

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cant wait for the "Globgor eating that guy was for a good reason all along" explanation

>So maybe the Monsters will cool their shit a bit.
I'm pretty certain they will. For the most part, despite the shit they dealt with, the Monsters are pretty willing to forgive the Mewmans for the shit that happened.

To your folder, user

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it was cute, not gonna lie.
Also, did they make a menstruation joke in SVTFOE?
>"I have cramps"

>a slime man is only loved under the condition that he provide spider bite skin care cream

I don't think they've forgiven anyone, which is part of the problem with Eclipsa's actions.

Marco got a mariachi band for Star's 15th birthday, so I don't think so. He'd probably pick it out himself.

Just like an arab is only loved under the condition that he controls the flow of oil!

>a human woman is only loved under the condition that she provides sex
see I can do it too.

well Shastacan was the jerk that forced Eclipsa into a arranged marriage, and later took Meteora (globgor daughter) to olga school.

if i was Glob i would be pissed too.

That's pretty normal in feudal societies. In fact Shastacan was really generous at not killing Meteora

It's the same show that said a children's choir that Ludo levitato'd were "singing with the angels".

This was a reflection on Moon's shitty leadership skills. She could give them a job, safety, and food but couldn't teach them how to make it out on their own. Chances are they don't have the greatest education either (even if the husband is an accountant)

you either never heard the Chris Rock joke or is taking it too serioulsly

So what we know is
>Eclipsa leaves Shastacan and marries Globgor, has a child
>The MHC frowns upon this, brings Eclipsa to trial and separates her from Meteora
>Shastacan sends Meteora away
>MHC swaps in the Pie-child and calls her Festivia

After that I guess Globgor eats Shastican (how does Eclipsa know this?) and Festivia take over the kingdom, throws a decades long party to keep everyone distracted and has her army wage war on the monsters?

Yeah that's what I thought, vaguely referencing periods to get Marco off her case for a bit. The girls are old enough to have been menstruating for a couple years, not that you'd normally think about that because Disney cartoon

Can you blame her when she has a infinite source of everything?

But they already have black people who are Mewmans. Being Mewman is less a skin color thing and more of family birth and who ever anyone considered "honorary Mewman" (ie Tom)

was Globgor crystalized before or after Eclipsas trial?

We can pretend he just put them up really high in the clouds, since we never see them fall.

Mewmans probably don't care about skin color at all, just humanoid appearance and/or if you're one of the "good" non-Mewman species

I really like the Monster manservant. He seems pretty cool.

It was the former, sorry, moving on.

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>Nefcy is a Californian born in L.A.
well, so is her director Sabrina Cotugno. Both of them are born and bred Angelenos

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Same. This show is good at making incredibly unimportant characters who won't get shown often enough that I nonetheless like.

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That's what I'm not sure about, Shastican was show to still be alive when the MHC took Meteroa away from Eclipsa, but if she was crystallized before he was eaten, how would she know Globgor ate him or the circumstances around it? If she was crystallized after Globgor ate the standing King of Mewni, surely that would have come up at the trial? Or is this just a case of bad writing and we're paying too close attention?

God I miss Ludo

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There could be? But it mostly came off as a joke about data and conglomerates.

We need shiny cheeks on that marco dammit

Not to mention we have no idea what Kelly's reproductive system is li-
Oh Nefcy you filthy perv, making us think these things on purpose.

Why is Star such a fucking race traitor? Literally let a coal burner queen take over and now is making the mewmans pay reparations n shiiiet. pic related is the future this race traitor wants for all her fellow mewmans

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More like a reflection of Nefcy's desdain for the working class. The big irony is that people like Nefcy need more the working class than the working class need Nefcy to told them what to do. Isn't the most important job to provide food? Without food, society collapse. Nobody likes to clean the toilet but someone has to. Factories need workers and the garbage must be pick

>Mewmans as racist inbred idiots
I don't really see it as that. Mewmans seems mostly ignorant or pre-occupied with personal life things than outwardly malicious towards the Monsters. The only times there are any hostilities, its over petty things.

Marco is a representation of her husband, Bobby. However, Bobby actually voices Slime.

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There was no trial.

>She was crystalized.
>Meteora was kidnaped and sent away.
>Glogbor finds out about everything and searches for Shastacan to get revenge.
>He eats him in order to cause the biggest pain possible (plucker of limbs) and humilliates him (digestion)
>Proceeds to make a dance out of it so Shastacan's death is never forgoten (nobody hurts the king's family)
>Then he gets crystalized.

His behaviour is to be expected given he is a warlord. He gave mewmans a chance and his family paid the prize.
If anything I support him more than ever. He can be the sweetest husband but also a genocide machine if you hurt something precious to him.

Girls, find yourselves a man who can do both.

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Globgor must've been critalized after the trial, if it was before no way Eclipsa would trust her fate to them and risk leaving Meteora at their mercy. For how she know, there is no explanation in the show yet bu she could have researched what happened to him after her trial.

>Cotugno moved from storyboarder/character designer to director in season 4
This explains a lot, that woman has an agenda is is pushing it hard.

It was cute! I had to watch it a few times because it was so sweet.

not when they were wearing a skirt, no.

>I thought it was going to have a joke involving her ambushing him in her house and wrestling him while saying something like "IS THIS FAKE, MARCO?!"
someone needs to draw this

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When you've never had to struggle for food, water and shelter in your life you take it entirely for granted.

If they have children, there will be a permanent supply of skin cream for the entire kingdom and an heir who can't be harmed by bug bites. It's a win for their people.

cute! i need more of this stuff. probably the cutest thing to come out of this show.

>After Shastacan read Eclipsa's entries in the Magic Book of Spells and learned of her forbidden monster romance, he ordered Eclipsa's capture and crystallization.
I guess you're right cant the MHC do anything right?

Aloe Slime and Penelope Spiderbite are a cute couple.

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Painful as in you felt sad or how?

They should have appeared in the show earlier (as a couple).
Slimelope is OTP

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was painful to watch Eclipsa holding a smile while people laughed at her husbands grave, I just felt really bad for her

How does slime on mewman sex work

Cotungo is the anti-Yea Forums.

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Ask the experts.

Same.
One could try to argue the same with Spiderbites and Star showing them the whole of Globgor's art tastes, but even then, for them it is various generations and not immediate hurt, Eclipsa is literally in front of his transparent husband's grave and they were dancing on it.

Creator lost control of her show fucking ages ago.

yeah. I'm not complaining that they did it, but I definitely picked up on it since you don't really get straight up period jokes or references in Disney shows. The characters are definitely old enough, and Kelly seems like one of the more serious characters her age who would make that sort of joke.
The episode was also written and storyboarded by two women (Kristen Gish and Amelia Lorenz), so they probably did it with intention and purpose. I'm honestly a little surprised they haven't done it a little more (or maybe they have but they got stopped by S&P)

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don't we all?

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Fuck her for all we've seen she's blinded by monster lust to going with the idea he's kind and noble For Her Sake. We've only got her word on that with everyone else showing that he's been a absolute terror to muman kind.

It's the guy from Fallout Boy isn't it?

I doubt she has disdain for them. She seemed to live a pretty middle-class life, with both of her parents working (if I remember the interview right) and she didn't get any fancy things like Hirsch did (going to specialized CalArts camps).

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>come over to my hosue and make me food
Kelly wants the Diaz

Nope.

Will Tom saying he is part monster be relevant ever again? Does Buff Frog and those monsters comeback now that Eclipsa is queen? I feel like Its Another Mystery is kinda dumb now that monsters are being treated better than mewmans and have a queen who is on their side.

I think it's a mix of talent and a positive relationship between them. Cotugno is clearly talented as an artist. She also probably looks up to Nefcy as this female art mentor. Nefcy probably wants to promote more female artists to leave some sort of legacy as a showrunner. She also sees that Cotugno has potential and tries to promote that talent.

Also, I guess you could also theorize some illicit boss-employee relationship that they have though Nefcy seems to be totally straight.

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Didn't knew mewmans came here

Who doesn't?

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>Disney is mocking manlets now

holy shit

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Yeah, Kelly is the more mature of the teen characters. Maybe it's because Tad put her through a lot of shit or that maybe she's had a lot more mature experiences than the two royal kids and the sheltered only child.

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Cotugno is bisexual, not full lez. She could be fucking Nefcy's husband while Nefcy watch

yes! also, civilian clothes Spiderbite Princess is cute!

I wouldn’t theorize anything other than a professional relationship. As for the show the direction has drastically changed and become political. We’ll see how it ends but I’m afraid it’ll be unsatisfying.

>Cotugno is bisexual
> She could be fucking Nefcy's husband while Nefcy watch

I never considered that, but now that you mention it, it seems completely rational.

Nefcy's husband apparently plays Slime dude and also plays Archibald, the winged butler.

twitter.com/BobbyMiller/status/1109879615953096704

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anybody have a non-mega link? mega sucks on my internet with the transfer caps

My thinking is that Eclipsa is exceptionally powerful, but also hyper-specialized. She's incredible at her personal brand of dark magic, which focuses on offense and shady stuff, but has otherwise strongly neglected to study the wider potential of magic. As such, she's probably stronger than Star in a straight fight, but Star is much better at magic as a whole right now.

Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a monster ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about.

Did anyone ever find out who Cotugno's bf was? The recent one, not the STD one.

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Eclipsa is powerful but untrained. Star is powerful but moderately trained and experienced. Eclipsa likely possesses more raw power than Star but Star knows how to effectively use it.

Star
>narval blast
Eclipsa
>heart stabber STD torns

I thought Eclipsa followed all of Glossaryck’a training?

>I thought Eclipsa followed all of Glossaryck’a training?
she didn't necessarily finish. remember, Eclipsa never achieved a deeper ability to weild magic. She still relies on the wand to do any of it, while Moon and Star do not.

Eclipsa's spells have more raw power, but she only has a few of them and she needs the wand to perform them.

What exactly is the point of Kelly? Another excuse for Starco to not hook up after Tomstar dies?

If anything, that would be extremely realistic.

I felt it went strange in the other direction. Eclipsa got fucked over repeatedly and unwarrantedly but still unusually chose to be a good guy anyway.

to be dumped

Manna would have been more interesting the obvious protagonist x deuteragonist ship.

Star has insulted the heights of multiple short men, possibly because Nefcy is an insecure giraffe hack.

shut up seddm!

>Moons new settlement
She gonna fucking Golan Heights Eclipsa's bitch add, hahaha

It would be stupid for Kelly to get into a relationship with Marco after going through hundreds of break ups and make ups with Tad, but since the staff have no shame in creating shipping drama, expect Marco kissing Kelly next week.

star is a cuck lol

Maybe Globgor's awakening will be the existential threat that both parties need to unify them? The temple has some very threatening depictions about the "Plucker of limbs", the series could end with the monsters coming to the defense of the mewmans? But not before a few people get impaled.

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>Marco is Mexicanese
>there are black mewmans and white mewmans
>there are monstrous characters that are not recognized as monsters by the mewmans
>Star Vs. is actually trying to mirror the complexity and frequent injustice of real world discriminatory systems, such as the Apartheid system of South Africa wherein people who looked African but were legally Coloured had more rights than those considered to be Black and where East Asians were considered to be legally white if they were from Taiwan, South Korea or Japan but other East Asians were treated like South Asians

DEEP (though it's possible Nefcy hasn't thought that far ahead and I'm reading too much into it)

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I'd like to drown Kelly's sandwich.

Monsters are just whoever the Mewmans kicked out.
"Oh yeah, that guy has some sweet land, he's a monster, we should kick him out."

>It would be stupid for Kelly to get into a relationship with Marco after going through hundreds of break ups and make ups with Tad
Every Kelly appearance since Lake Lava Beach has been exclusively for retarded ship baiting with Marco

The royal meetings and Prince Rich Pigeon in particular show that money is the requirement for good standing in this instance. This isn't a great reflection of reality though, people will still discriminate against wealthy people.

Now imagine if it was like steven universe and they just rushed all the Eclipsa episodes to the finale. You'd be even more annoyed that the final boss turned out to be a nice person.

They will, but that's like a rich black guy during the segregation era claiming that a white bellhop didn't respect him, then hopping in his limo so he could go to his mansion to stew about it.

Marco's a fucking chicano, fuck what he thinks is racist

>Kelly's World
We knew this was coming, user. Don't freak out. And if you want to talk about that, we can talk about yada yada berries as well.
Anyone else enjoy that (1) Starco adventure together exists againa, and (2) Star just goes in and starts fucking wrecking shit like an autists, just like at the start of the show, and Marco is all "let me play the good cop here for a minute, babe" to get some answers.

is he still raging that Tom and Star aren't broken up?

I was glad Eclipsa released the mewmans because she knows her choices are controversial and believes they are in their right to hate her until she proves to be trustworthy.

Star was a dictatorial morron the whole episode even though both Glossaryck and Eclipsa didn't care.

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>the Spiderbites laughing at Elipsa's "dead" husband was painful thou
I feel so bad for her too

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i will, give me a day

>Star, Moon, Eclipsa and the other royals/nobility are collectively the "final boss" because they were the bad guys all along due to being asshole monarchs that set everything on fire without a care

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Seddm hates the shit out of kelly more than he dislike Tomstar

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I don't think Star Vs. has that many seasons left that they could devote another season to the "star gets cucked" plotline.

I didn't, the guy's a giant purple people eater.

Little more truth than I'd like I'd like to admit... but by the same token, "vs the forces of evil" is in there as well. It's just as possible EVERYTHING is getting lumped into there. The evils found in both falling in and out of love. The evils of growing up and maturing. The evils found in trying to sort out "justice" from "history". The evils of being a leader and having to decide between practicality, morality, and ideology. Could feasible put all the interactions with all the characters under that umbrella.
...but you're right. I too enjoyed the simple days of Star and Marco being cute dorks together, going off on adventures and bringing the best parts of each other to the forefront

Sudden thought: What if all the Mewmans move into Moon's village, then decide to "re-take" their old home? History repeats itself just like in Mewnipendence Day.

>I don't think Star Vs. has that many seasons left
O'rly?

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user... this little ditty is found in the book of spells... and its by her momma dearest, no less...

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10 eps down, 18 to go. We could probably fit one more cuckolding session in there.

I did, he avenged his family by giving Shastashit a painful and humilliating death.

Now he is my favourite male character in the show. An alpha among cucks and submissive dumbasses.

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I fucking hate the little whore Star. Because she reminds me of this girl I know in real life. Who would choose a dirty Spic over me.

Classic mewman.

No, but whoever it is, they are failing at dicking the gay out of that bitch

>
Where can I find them in LOWER quality? I can't download shit without a payed MEGA account

Post Brittney.

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Monster loving degenerate.

Star's kind of a hypocrite. She bitches at Eclipsa for using her powers recklessly for the sake of her husband and family when she is going around rainbow punching, electrocuting, and imprisoning people constantly

You know, rather than down by the river, I got the feeling that the Ponyhead show was a bigger callout to unrelenting parents either (1) wishing to ensure only the best and success for their children by steering them away from high risk dreams and aspirations to something more down to earth and practical or (2) stifling their dreams and aspirations in the pursuit of external "beauty and acceptance" from a wider society Depending on your point of view, of course.

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>Solaria was a genocidal autist who wanted to kill all monsters
>Her journal entries are going to end up being the key to freeing the Monster King

What irony

He's definitively going to be the season's villain isn't he?

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I think they are going to do a whiteflight thing and all the mewmans will just hand over the the old kingdom to eclipsa, but make a new mewni nextdoor and appoint moon as the queen again. This way Star will be a princess again and they can be allies with the monsters or w/e while not being stifled by their forced integration.

Literally why? Mewni castle is abandoned and in tatters. Eclipsa's rebuilding at the monster temple. There's no reason for Moon and family you not just go back there and rebuild there.

It's looking like all the mewmans are going to move to Moon and River's spot one family at a time until the monsters and mewmans are two separate kingdoms again like before.

Globgor will probably be released in the final hour long episode. There will likely be some comedic twist to him, like he is incredibly clumsy and dumb which results in his constantly accidentally stomping houses down or sneezing fire and burning a while village, people assume he is a rampaging monster out to kill everything as a result.

Everything will probably be resolved as a series of misunderstandings between everyone.

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>Yada Yada berries had both of them looking for the assassin
>Barely interacted at all
I know it's not supposed to be shipping all the time but why didn't they talk a tiny bit about the kiss at alll during Yada Yada

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It's weird going back and watching the dumb wacky comedy of the first season after all the force drama and weird story buildup of season 3 and 4.

I doubt Cotugno is really bi. She's probably a tumblr "pansexual" that couldn't move on from her college phase. What mean she wants attention and to feel special but that's it.

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Waiting for the blood moon because something something forced romance except not really my motivated friend

>Star showing more annoyance at Marco lately and sort of disregarding him
>Kelly's World supports Kellco further
>Curse of the Blood Moon is just Moon Presence throwing a shit fit that his ship is sinking

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dude i feel bad for shippers like Seddm.
he take this shipping crap way to serious.

he should not worry, he will get his precious STARCO, is just happens that romance in this show follow a very old and boring style.

So.... once again with Nefcys boner for POTTERY, we are seeing Star conveniently NOT discussing or resolving Marco's confession to her in much the same way that Marco completely ignored/dropped the subject when Star confessed to him. and it's pissing everyone the fuck off

Because Marco spent yet another decade in abs dimension and most likely got over it.

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>wanting to become a Kellco shipper
Fucking neck yours-- ... oh. Well never mind then.

Reminder that El Chapo should've been replaced with "not-hamon"

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Why do you say that?

We know that Star is reluctant to talk about it all, and Marco puts the blame entirely on himself, so neither of them is gonna talk about it unless prompted by something. If they do talk about the kiss it’s definitely gonna lead to them realizing that they both enjoyed it.

>Post Characters that no longer exist
K

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Backwater mewhick

at least kellyco appeared, so it was worth it in my book

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It's really more an assassination, and it'd be kind of tedious if instead of yada they said "assassinate" every time

How is this going to work when the queen has a spying spell?

And a mind reading spell

So he eats people because he trips and falls on them with his mouth still open, interesting.

Star is definitely a hypocrite. When it comes to the people she loves she will do anything and hurt anyone like when she tries to rescue Marco, Glossaryck, Pony Head, and Moon.
Star doesnt sympathize with Eclipsa doing whatever to free her husband because Globgor is a scary big guy and Glossaryck has warned Star about him.

Why don’t you go have sex with a pile of goo!

Globgor is going to turn out to be a nice dude just like Eclipsa says he is but Mewmans will chimp out anyway and Sseth will radicalize him or Eclipsa into a final war against Mewmans.

To get worked

She is virtue signalling
>you don't like eclipsa
>that means you're a racist and mewman supremacist

Now every Pony Head episode is worth it in my book if that means more confirmed goodest boy Seahorse.

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Maybe she still trusts Star? And the revelation that star is lying to her could be the final straw before she snaps and breaks out Globgor? Glossaryck already knows she’s lying too.

Considering that Marco has pretty much been stated to been consumed by buglust that any form of romantic interaction with Kelly is going to be poor writing

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She trusts Star completely and won't read her mind, which shoud raise some conflict because Star demands Eclipsa to be trustworthy yet she can't be trusted back

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>Moon builds a wall and a mote around her new home as her old servants move in.

Oh wow, gee golly, I sure wonder what is going to happen next to her and River... What's that? It's followed by an episode making it clear Eclipsa is hopelessly unpopular? I'm sure these plot threads don't have anything in common...
OH MY GOD DAMN GOD, HOW OBVIOUS CAN YOU BE? Moon and River build a new castle, a new town and everyone moves. Effectively Moon will stealth usurp Eclipsa's position, possibly unknowingly. This is the most obvious foreshadowing ever.

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>Discount Trigon ate King Asshat
>The "Truth is more complicated"
>Somehow being eaten can be "more complicated"
What? Did he get the shits from that meal?

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I feel like Glossaryck is playing everyone at this point.

>they are making another nation
What happened to the Johansen Kingdom? Did the writers forget about it? Can't the mewmans go live there?

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We are having two kingdoms in the end, the mewman one and the monster one.

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Hiding your kid away due to race reasons and jailing/killing your wife would usually send you over the edge.
Justifies murder apparently. Guessing they're going to do a Gredo shot first thing

Honestly, it seems like the writers don't really care about any of the kingdoms besides Mewni.

The song Moon hummed while making the pies was pretty nice. Real cozy.

I didnt even knew the Johansen had a kingdom, I tought they where savages who lived in the woods

Isn't that against the pro-integration message? Besides, that shit never worked in real life, see India and Pakistan or Israel and Palestine.

butterfly kingdom mewmans are snooty. Johansen kingdom mewmans are barbarians. there would be a similar culture-clash to the monster/mewman one.

Mewmans are lazy / stupid fucks and Moon's little place is closer and more convenient probably. I mean when the one family tried to leave further they lost all their shit basically.

I think tossing his kid away might have pissed him off enough

The Pony Head Show made me feel actual physical anger up until the last couple of minutes or so. I can't remember the last time I've hated a fictional character as much as I hate Pony Head. I just wish someone would rape and murder her, not necessarily in that order. I HATE HER SO FUCKING MUCH.

leaving the butterfly kingdom pretty much cedes that territory to the monsters completely, enemies who they have been at perpetual war with. maybe they care about their homeland.

Why does Star have a shirt with an Utrom on it?

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I wish the rich autist that commissions Astrid getting hogged would do it for ponyhead

you seen like a mentally healthy person

Eclipsa's just neat, ain't she?

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She sure is.

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Very, very neat.

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We had the Spiderbites today and they warned Eclipsa about the Johanssens.

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they talk about the other kingdoms a lot. especially in S04E06 pt II

>Kelly main reason to appear is for shipping with Marco
Of course while they are making Tom a doormat submissive they need to distract Marco.
Thank fucking god that Marco boner for Star surely will prevent this from happening, still annoying about the squire shit but as long it prevents more drama it's okay.

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I would go vegetarian for her.

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How unstoppable is Reflecticorp they seem to control literally all the technology on that planet, and you can just bribe them to shill whatever propaganda you want and no one owning their devices can ever turn if off either.

>The least enjoyable aspect of S4 has been Eclipsa.
>Change my mind

Eclipsa is the villain
Glossaryk works for Seth
Toffee will return
Lizard people are misunderstood (see Rasticore in todays episode, he is a JOKE)

I won't.

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Maybe the writers are planning to do something with them later in the season, but until this episode they were barely relevant outside of being mentioned a few times throughout the show.

do sex

Out of Eclipsa's plot we've only had shipping drama, a bisexual joke and Poniheads.

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I don't think that this season is going to have a villain. My guess is that the whole conflict of this season will be caused by a series of misunderstandings between Mewmans and Monsters with Star caught in the middle.

Ponyhead's obnoxiousness is just unbearable how is Star her friend at all.

Since Star’s no longer princess Marco doesn’t hold the position of squire anymore.

>kills Toffee in cold blood for fucking with her
>your husband ate the guy who gave away your only child and had you imprisoned? what a monster!

I dont change diapers, I only wear em

Except Eclipsa has monster citizens she probably is just fucking with Star and doesnt actually care if the Mewmen like her.

Ponyhead is basically a creator's pet who gets pushed for no reason. I could tolerate her if she became less obnoxious but she becomes more hateable everytime she shows up.

I love how Moon built a wall to keep the immigrants out nice one Daron bet you really triggered you libtard partners with that.

I'm still pissed that El chapo was essentially nothing and we didn't see adult Marco cut through the neverborn.

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Why don't you go make a thousand babies that you'll abandon in poverty?

I want to rape Queen Spiderbite.

how exciting.

Are there even any supporting characters in this show that aren't "related" to star at this point? They jettisoned all the human characters at the end of season 2 and all the other teenagers got screwed over by shipping to the point they're not allowed to show up.

All that's left at this point is tom and kelly (and we know that's a ticking timebomb), shipping has whittled down this cast to just star, her family, marco and ponyhead.

Why doesnt Marco realize Pony is calling him literal shit?

Ponyhead is Nefcy's favorite character and she can do no wrong.

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Fuck, Hol’ up I gotta bust a nut. I hope Rodrick doesn’t barge in to my room.

Yo user, check that.
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Why does Marco get so many bitches?

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You gotta be 18 to post here, Greg.

Astoundingly

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Don't shoot up the school, Heffley

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How huge is Slime's cock?

I’m amazed Nefcy was ok naming Marco’s sword after a notorious Mexican drug lord.

Just right.

Lets give props to the slime bro hes not even monster royalty yet he hooked royal vagina thats just impressive man.

By the end of the show Star is going to surpass Ponihead as my most hates character. Can't deal with her level of hypocrisy this season.

BTW, I love what they did with Globgor. He is the monster equivalent of Gengis Kan, but with a soft side.

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Star shouldnt even hate Shatascan hes literally the reason she actually exists right now.

True alpha.

Not a matter of hating the guy but understanding why someone would have something against him to the point of killing him.
Same way Eclipsa understands why the Spiderbites want Globgor crystalized.

And that's the problem this season. Eclipsa keeps on learning how to be better while Star is incapable of doing the same thing, even though she is the MC.

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That's why Eclipsa is a great character, she learns from her mistakes and from the environment around her.
Compare her chest to Star's too.

>Compare her chest to Star's too.

There's really no comparison.

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Globgor reminds me of monster hunter seeing him frozen like the evil Muu.

That's not fair. Everyone is stacked in comparison to Star

Eclipsa especially.

Man, I miss when Star was a princess.

We need an emotional confrontation between Star and Marco. where they fight and then kiss

>Ponyhead episode
>She is massively disliked by the audience

What did they mean by this?

Hey, can you post some Sexy pics with Star, Moon or Eclipsa?

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Wrestling is not "fake". Fuck Marco for suggesting that to Kelly.

Big question is: how the heck will Kelly's World lead up to The Curse of the Blood Moon? It's a 30 min episode, so I think they'll start with the plot right away.

The artists and animators really love to make it clear.

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Dropped out of this series/fandom at the same time jackie did, anyone wanna summarize to me why or how it's become even more shit?
>it's been nearly two years now
it still hurts

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When was the last time Brittney even appeared in the show? Second season?

It's for the best Jackie isn't associated with this shitheap.

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>Not as fun
>Episodes where nothing happen, not even adventures
>THE KEKENINGS aka Too much focus on ships
>Great characters like Ludo and Buff frog thrown on the bench
>Mewni is boring
>Dude racism

Season 3 is way worse than 4 though. 4 has been ok so far with Swimsuit being a return to forn. Eclispa is fun too

Stop browsing Yea Forums, Greg. Mom's been waiting for you at the dinner table for an hour now.

It's not as funny anymore and the show is mostly about Eclipsa now.

thats where she keeps her magic, Star spays hers everywhere while Eclipsas is stocked

>If they don’t like it why don’t they stop watching?
Classic counter arguement Nefcy. And not a good one.

Has anything happened this season of note so far? I haven't heard shit about it and I dropped off last season because it was so slow. Seems like another Adventure Time or Voltron situation.

The show went down hill as we shift from exploration and fighting the forces of evil to talking about how monsters are just misunderstood and should be integrated into society. Those who disagree are insulted and/or assaulted.

Remember when she was going to be a mermaid?
Remember when Oskar was going to be werewolf?
Remember all this Earth plots and characters that never got a conclusions?

.....oh my fucking god while writing this I suddenly remembered that Marco Jr is a thing that exists.

Just realized most of my Sexy Moon Folder includes Toffee.
What happened to the artist of pic related?, she delivered good material.

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Star lost her virginity and Marco has 2 wifes and 5 children on Hekapoo's dimension

Nothing really. It’s mostly setup for the climax, but the writers have put an odd emphasis on some things, like the beach day photo from season 2 and could ignore other things. As of right now if you’re not a fan of the characters don’t bother watching.

>Oskar

I miss that guy

anybody got a link to the magic book of spells? Having a hard time finding it online.

desuarchive.org/co/search/text/magic book of spells /

Not sure if the DL still works, and this archive site is kinda glitchy on my end.

Barely any fightng, no clear villain, time wasted on "nothing" episodes, more shipping drama, Marco barely does anything anymore, and most of the good characters have been shelved.

Doesn't stop her from using it to boss him around anyway, as "Moon Remembers" demonstrates. Marco doesn't even call her out on it.

Yeah, Marco’s parents have only been mentioned twice that I can recall and the baby should have been delivered by now unless they want to pull a time distortion contrivance. That said maybe taking care of baby Meteora is setup for Marco taking care of his baby brother? Or more likely someone on staff thought the idea of Marco’s brother being named Marco Jr was funny and they wanted to show Angie being rude to Marco.

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Man growing up in Asian in the South in the 90s has me totally disconnected with these uberchad/stacy depictions of Asians from the West Coast. This shit is some Man In The High Castle alternate universe social pecking order for me.

Well, nobody is watching the show except for tumblrinas and Yea Forumsmrades so it worked I guess

if they ever meet Meteora will murder Marco jr. Another reason why naming him that was a mistake, he will carry his brothers crossdreesing sins

Artist?

She pretty much got tired of it. Something must've happened though since she refuses to acknowledge she ever liked that ship. An user asked her and she got angry about it and hesitantly said she got sick of it.

I wish I still had copies of the comment about it. She deleted literally everything related to MoonToffee. Maybe the whole "ligger" thing turned her off of it.

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Eclipsas title shold change from queen of darkness to:
Eclipsa queen of Sex, Cocaine and POWWAHH!

To be fair, the the show changed the main setting to Mewni after season 2, how would they fit her in aside from brief returns to Earth?

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Wasn't it revealed at the end that they eventually return to normal?

it's glitch as hell here to but the dl works,thanks user

>eventually
who know for how long they will stay like that

Brittney somehow appears in Mewni. Gets monster cock. Becomes super chill.

His name is Groove. He's highly talented.

Yes, I can see that, thanks for the souce

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Your welcome.
I commissioned all those pieces. His prices are high but well worth it. What should I ask of him to make again?

I don't. He was pointless stoner character 101.
Star was in love with a different guy in season 2, so he is not even important in the teenage drama department.

Guess he is fucking Jackie now.

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Holy shit yes, those are pretty damn good I'll say its worth it 100%

nah, Jackie was raped and killed in a forest next to a party, Marco is mewni so he doesnt know yet

it's glitch as hell here to but the dl works,thanks user

You're doing a great service, user.

Eclipsa looks hot in nearly every shot she is in.

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so... Kelly invited Marco to fuck right?

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Lets get this straight guys:
>Glossaryck has silkbugs that can reconstruct ANYTHING from even a tiny scrap
>Glossaryck said that he doesnt work for eclipsa
>Glossarck says that killing Toffee and remaking the realm was a bad idea
>Glossaryck is bound to the book, and works for its owner
>The last confirmed owner of the book is Toffee
Its official. Glossaryck is still on Toffees side, and he is going to bring him back. Get ready guys. The puzzle pieces are falling into place. Only he knows how this will all turn out.

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I forgot how aggravatingly obnoxious Ponyhead is.
Like LSP except 10x worse and more of a teenager.

Oskar is the one who did it.

Also why did rasticore generate his parts that were previously cyborg parts
thats fishy

I feel like Glossaryck isn't on anybody's side .He might have an agenda of his own but it not connected to Toffee.

I kind of can't fucking wait. though it's also making me anxious as all fucking hell.

haha, you gonna be banking this one for the finale, or including it as part of the stream line up?

>all these people wanting to kill Eclipsa
...we should really have various user avators added to the lineup as well for how much she's S4 is being devoted to her.

Find out for yourself, mewman. Moon's glorious new kingdom doesn't need lazy layabouts like you. We're gonna make Mewni Great Again!

Probably got harassed by tumblr.

Knowing Rasticore he probably kept those cyborg parts because he thought it was cool.

We also got Bad Cop Star...

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>Mnsters dont deserve this bad treatment
>Lests torture some mewmans

Marco jr. looks like a girl

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>Moon & River
>Moon River
Why the fuck did it take me this long to realize this
youtube.com/watch?v=sXhhdNL05sY

Eclipsa's song and the final scene with the kid were the only good parts of the Ponihead episode. The last one was surprisingly powerful.

She is obviously gonna remain as Queen of Monsters once Mewmans move with Moon, but the trust she is slowly gaining is gonna be important for the final confrontation of the show.

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What the fuck is Kelly anyway? Some kind humanoid moss creature?

this is my headcanonnon now

exhentai.org/g/1360215/aac13f1157/

Jackie is a cuck like you Raico

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I thought they would go for rock/metal, but having her sing a ballad was a great choice.
It really felt she was trying to send a message and not just be cool or popular.

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a nicegirl

she just need to lear to embrace it like Star did, just look at her before becoming a cuckqueen

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Seriously though, are we actually never going to see Jackie again in the show? I'm actually curious

there is nothing left for her to do, even Janna at least is Star friend.

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But a metal song would have given us bad-hair-day Eclipsa, which I find sexier.

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>The mean old starcofags deleted my tumblr and not because Tumblr throws shitfits at any svtfoe porn

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agreed

Repeating what somebody else said.
Meteora conquered mewni but never got killed, so technically she is the one Glossaryck works for.
But i do really hope Glossy's pets find Toffee's eye and bring him back.

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I only heard Jake out of that guy

You mean it's not?

Today, I will remind you niggas.

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Where do I get a printed copy of between friends?

Star vs doesn’t stand a chance

Holy fuck what a soiboi

Assuming Starco survives CBM, do you think that in Beach Day we see the Diaz and Butterfly having a good day together?

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>K:"Why are we doing all this prep. Aren't cooking shows are fake."
>M:"Ye--, N-N-No. Cooking shows are real. Uh, Wrestling is fake. Can you pass me the salt?"
>K:"Wait, what did you just say?"
>M:"I said can you pass the salt?"
>K:"No, before that."
>M:"Uhhhh. I said that wrestling is fake. Kellllly? You okay?"
>K:"I have cramps."
>M:"Kelly??"

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The kid being a girl and dark skinned was purely chance right?

Given that Mewni has people with hair naturally being the color of anime, then probably yes.

>M:"Uh, Kelly? Haaah... I'm so sorry I--"
>K:"Marco, why're you talking to my dressing room?"
>M:"Oh I... I thought you were in there. I don't... Anyway, I...I just want to say, uhm, I'm sorry. I, I didn't know you didn't know about wr-wrestling."
>K:"Oh no, it's fine. I'm over it."
>M:"Oh. Really? Cuz it seemed like you were up-upset..."
>K:"No, no. I mean you did ruin wrestling for me, that's true, but, you know I just walked around and dealt with it. Let's go make some sandwiches, it's not like you've never ruined anything before..."
>M:"Wh-what?"

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That was cold
Stone Cold

What bothers me is why Star is always questioning whether she can trust Eclipsa or not. I know it's probably because Moon herself said she doesn't trust her, but Moon never did trust her. Eclipsa fully accepted that she had to kill her daughter to save everyone including Star and she really thought she did. And as for Eclipsa trying to steal Rhombulus's body, fuck the MHC. They stole her entire life from her, she had every right to try to free Globgor. But Star wants to go on a little moralfag speech about how is she supposed to trust her.

Star, you willingly and autistically break into peoples houses and destroy their shit. You beat the fuck out of people who without proof and accuse people of shit without having anything to back it up. And she suddenly thinks she has the right to tell others not to use magic in an irresponsible manner.

Are they going to somehow change her for the better? Because they better have something big lined up for her character development. Otherwise they've really just proven Star IS the force of evil.

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and she still invited him to her house. Another chance Marco gonna throw away.

I can't tell if I liked how Kelly handled that or not. On one hand she, at a glance, seems to have the emotional maturity to excuse herself and walk around when confronted with unsettling information and doesn't have a tantrum or anything. On the other hand, she also might be kidding herself and putting on a mature front when really she is still pissed at Marco for ruining wrestling for her.

Why is he going to go for those chances when he has eyes only for the magical bug. Did you forget all about Marco's buglust?

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>Another chance Marco gonna throw away.

>still invited him to her house
>had """cramps"""

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No Star. I love you. But Eclipsa can fuck off.

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How are these two related please tell me

Reminder that Eclipsa's VAs most famous role is a hooker

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what the fuck happened to Star Vs Quest???

why doesn't Eclipsa sing with an accent
why was her song so terrible? I expected her to rock out. That didn't rock.

Euphemism. urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cramps
Can also be encoded girlspeak for "no snu-snu 4 u" regardless of the time of month

IRL fucked the QM. It's not cancelled, but it's on hiatus, at least until May'ish.

I liked how adventure time did it
a succession of increasingly convoluted variations on the word murder, after saying it a few times because they were only allowed to say it a couple times. So after that it was moider, murdle, moidle, murdleurdle, and eventually shit like skee-bop, ice, etc.

>I claim this background cutie.
I expect to get commissioned to draw porn of this character...

Did you not see the video explaining it would be dead until May?

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I stand by my belief that having Starco canon early on would've made the show sold gangbusters. This show is nothing but wasted opportunities, and everyone watching it are only waiting to see how it ends.

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Fuck. The quest is actually better than the source material at this point.

I still giggle every time king Shastacan is mentioned. that's a name I would have come up with

>Oh wow, and there's even a completely legitimate reason for Globgor to have eaten Shastacan too.
I'm betting he absorbed him or something. like they fused.

>slicing onions with a meat cleaver
Is Marco trying to lose a finger?

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The fucks Star vs quest?

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A collaborative fan-fiction, of sorts.
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Star Vs. Quest

If I did season 3, Tomstar never happens and Marco just teleports over every so often to help at Mewni. Have Marco slowly realises over the course of the season that maybe he love Star

there is a star thread still up in the catalog besides this one. Use the catalog and find it when this one is over instead of creating yet another one so we don't get trashed.

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Ideally I wanted the shipping drama to be done with by the end of season 3 so that the show can focus on Star and Marco fixing Mewni, but that shit is never gonna happen at the pace the show is going.

>what is wrong with this people?
>If they don't like the show they just can turn if off
No, fuck you Necfy, pony head is a annoying shitty character, also, If you give control over the show to assholes more interested in politics than telling a decent story we are going to point it out.

Suffering. It's not the ideal solution that I actually wanted, but I've been overall pleased with the way S4 has been progressing. Of course there's thing that we all wish turned out better than they have. We've ALL got an axe to grind...

You're right. But Ponyhead is hated in universe as well. Also the political storyline is pretty good and you don't see that kind of stories in a cartoon.
Yeah, but you have to know how to send a message without pushing your entire agenda into something that doesn't fit

>all threads are equal, just some are more equal than others

>Otherwise they've really just proven Star IS the force of evil.

I mean the shows original title was Star and The Forces of Evil.

Equal in that we all are gonna get trashed again for being obnoxious and spam the board with our threads.
We need to stick to just one thread

Anyone who commissions is a good guy in my book. Thank you for your service, user.