Simpshit

>that women are over doing it when trying to prove something that's already been proven.
But why take a case where it doesn't apply ?

can you ask an actual question and not half of one?

because the joke here is that someone is trying to say there is a problem when there really isnt. The joke is that Carol here is not doing anything new and she is acting like she is.

she is trying prove something that's already been proven and the point of this joke is that Carol is just now being obnoxious.

But she isn't.

I ask quite clear questions.
>the joke here is that someone is trying to say there is a problem when there really isnt.
>she is trying prove something that's already been proven
Except she isn't. she doens't try to prove anything. she mostly try to stop the Skrull and finding her past. And she was not really obnoxious about it. Carol never claimed no one was a hero before her.

Maybe the guy who made that pic should have picked something where it is more relelvant.

>No Mantis
>Includes the shitty ones

>Except she isn't. she doens't try to prove anything.
except she did, just now, by showing up to the football field trying to prove something that's already been proven, super girls can play football too.

She's more heroe than you.

>except she did, just now, by showing up to the football field
I am pretty certain OP's pic is not canon.

The movie makers, retard. Carol isn't a real person.

>And she was not really obnoxious about it. Carol never claimed no one was a hero before her.
No the point was is that the way Carol was being marketed was another Girls can fo it too moment. Which Carol by proxy is that obnoxiousness personafied.

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>The movie makers, retard.
They said it was the first MCU movie with a solo female lead, and it's right. T's not that statement that OP's pic is trying to debunk. None of the marketers stated she was the first female hero of the MCU.

It's also a pointless distinction.

Marketers never said there were no female heroes in the MCU before Carol, so that pic isn't really accurate.

no duh, but it's still obnoxious how they are presenting it. that's the joke. I know you are just having fun now but can you be a little funnier while trolling?

Seeing Feige had been trying to get one for years and had met an hard block several time beforehand, it actually is.

But the actual point is that none of the marketer have stated what is said in that edit.

I never said that, I said they marketed it as a GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO thing, which the joke shows, NO DUH STUPID!

>but it's still obnoxious how they are presenting it. that's the joke.
The joke is not very well done and fail to carry the point, especially as it use an argument that wasn't made in the first place. Not my fault it is shooting itself in the foot.

IMO, I never found it obnoxious, no more than any MCU movie add capaign, at the very least.

the joke is very easily understood. you are just being an idiot. Just because you dont find it funny doesnt mean others wont.

>I said they marketed it as a GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO thing,
Provide an example, please ?

So once a slogan has been used, it can never been used again ? that's not how advertisement work, user.

>Marketers never said there were no female heroes in the MCU before
they said it for a week then rewrote to "first to have her own centric movie in space" because they kept being reminded history exists and they cant' just make shit up on the go.

>IMO, I never found it obnoxious
and that's why people find you obnoxious.

ghostbusters
it was all over the place as girls can do it too.

>the joke is very easily understood.
Not really. It start with claiming Carol/marketers made a statement they never did in the first place. So it fall apart from the start.

At least use a statement they actually made.
>Just because you dont find it funny doesnt mean others wont.
Anyone else find it funny ?

This was not hard.

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>ghostbusters
Ghostbusters wans't used to market Captain Marvel, that reply make no sense.

If your issue is that Ghostbusters was being all in your face, it make even less sense to use Captain Marvel to complain about that.

>not really
that's because you are stupid. Or purposely so to get in a debate. Frankly it's not the responsibility of the joke creator to tend to your retarded needs.

jesus christ what are you talking about. it was the GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO shit, learn to read you fucking moron.

Yes, there was an hard believe at Disney that A female solo lead wouldn't be a success that the movie proved wrong.

That's not really the point Op's pic is about, though. No one disputed the fact female heores could exist in movies, yet that is what that joke is making its premise of.

>Yes, there was an hard believe at Disney that A female solo lead wouldn't be a success that the movie proved wrong.
You mean wonder woman did.

Like. Exceedingly easy to find examples of the “girls can do it too” thing.
I get how important representation can be to people. I honestly didnt get it until my little black niece learned all the words to black panther, its adorable.
But she also love the original annie more then new annie, so she doesnt NEED a black versian of everything, its just nice to be included, I think?

The point is the advertisers really do try to make everything out to be the first ever something and the distinctions are getting ridiculous.

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>it was the GIRLS CAN DO IT TOO shit
And I was asking what add campaign was doing it for CAPTAIN MARVEL, and you bring Ghostbusters out of nowhere. You explain that to me.

the question was give an example, he thought you meant give and example of girls can do it too marketing not captain marvel. which did show you how.

>that's because you are stupid. Or purposely so to get in a debate
I am not. Simply stating the fact, the joke make a statement that the group it attack never made in the first place. Therefore, it make no sense.

you never said captain marvel shit bird, you just said give you an example there it was, you can leave now.

Wonder Woman is owned by Disney ?

cry me a river carpet muncher. cant take a joke you dont belong on Yea Forums.

Sorry, my bad, I didn't express muyself well. I meant a case of "women can do it too" WHEN IT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IT WAS ALREADY THE CASE BEFOREHAND, as that is what is required to make the joke work.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, my bad. In this case, though, it is not valid, as Disney actually didn't believe in a female solo lead and thus Disney was proven wrong, so the joke still doesn't work.

>stating a fact.
no you didnt, it makes perfect sense. You just dont get it.

>you never said captain marvel
We were precisely talking about the marketing of Captain Marvel. not my fault you weren't following.

sounds like someone is just bitter over a joke she dont like.

we were also talking marketing and I gave you an example you can leave now.

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>cant take a joke
Not my fault the joke isn't funny. No need to get upset, I am sure you will do better next time.

>no you didnt, it
I did: fact, the marketing never claimed she was the first MCU female hero. Objectively, from that point out, it make the joke fall apart. Denying it is denying reality.

You mean one fucking guy. Ike. It was fucking perlmutter. Everyone knew he was retarded. He held to a female lead not working after Lucy. He had the star of Lucy in his franchise and still didnt get it.
A reminder, the MCU started how long after Alien? I dont wanna fucking hear it! It was a dumb believe held by one old very stingy goy.
The point youre trying to ignore by feigning naivety is that the marketing is beyond obnoxious when every specific thing that hasnt been done before is pointed out as a fucking hallmark.
>Not the first female lead
>Not the first female super hero
>The first female led super hero in this franchise
Big fucking whoop. The movie can be good by trying to get brownie points over that shit is marketing the wrong parts of the movie to people who see movies as political statements, which is also retarded.

But we arent done.
Oh look, another big fucking historical achievement for Captain Marvel.

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>Not my fault the joke isn't funny
waaah waaaaaah I dont find it funny no one should!

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no you didnt, you stated your opinion about how you dont think a joke doesnt make sense since you already proven that your argument is also a joke.

I am not the one insulting people because I was told the joke doesn't work.
>we were also talking marketing
Follow the thread, it was precisely about the Marketing of CM.

Here, I'll help you out, here is an edit where the joke will actually make sense and be funny:
Put 4 Lisa with the head of the ghostbusters in the first frame and then in the last frame put head of other female heor of any action movie (doesn't need to be comic book adaptation). Now it make sense and now it is funny.

>You mean one fucking guy. Ike. It was fucking perlmutter
Yes and he was the one needing to be proven wrong. also, article about production difficulty aren't technically Marketing.

no you are insulting everyones common sense. leave sweetie, you can go to your girls club and cry about your monthly.

I am not the one crying, an I am not the one complaining other migh find it funny.

so far, I am seeing is people complaining that I do not.

Really make you think...

the joke isnt made for critical thinking it's just a cheap shot. and it's kinda funny.

Oh look where at it again. Idk why this popped up in my search. Maybe the google algorithm thinks Im woke now.

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hahahaha look at this cherry picking now. This is why people find you obnoxious.

>makes you think
I noticed you dont do that....

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>you stated your opinion about how you dont think a joke
That people at MArvel never stated CP was the first MCU female hero is objectively true.

That the joke for it to work, require them to have actually said that is also true. This is nothing but facts.

Who here found OP's pic funny ?

I found it funny

I am not. ,tHe joke is based on a non-functioning premise, I provide a setting where it actually work, but you prefer to complain about my constructive criticism.

I did

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pffhhahahaha

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>the joke isnt made for critical thinking it's just a cheap shot.
The problem is that the shot miss, because it is based on a false premise.
Yes and? again, there hasn't been an asian lead before in the MCU, it is correct to say it is a first.
Seems like I am the only one willing to use basic logic.

This. Anons quadrupling down on their point. I think the whole thread is pretty much one guy who doesnt get the joke so they insist the joke doesn't make sense. Not one other user has agreed.
How much more can they defend this point? Only one way to find out!

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I found it funny, a little bit of a cheap shot, but still funny.

because you keep thinking it's about the girls first MCU, when that isnt the joke the point was pointed out to you earlier in this thread, but you ignore it.

Fucking hilarious mate. Is it autism, you seem caught up on a very specific detail that isnt as important to the bottom line as you think it is.

>I think the whole thread is pretty much one guy who doesnt get the joke
I didn't say I didn't get it, I said it doesn't work because it require a premise that isn't real in the first place.

If people had say there was no other female heroes before Carol in the MCU, then yes, it would work, but that condition is missing.

If bad faith is required to find a joke funny, it really isn't.

pretty funneh

>I am not the one crying!
T. pissmop in tears in front of its phone.

>I didn't say I didn't get it
yes you didliar.

>because you keep thinking it's about the girls first MCU
The joke exclusively show female heroes from the MCU, so of course it is.
Furhter ore, it try to say Marvel made the statement there were none other before hand, which isn't the case. Thus the joke fail.

its showing there are girl heroes, not solo girl heroes. I know you are dumb and a liar but common.

>you are not angry, you are angry
sure.

>internet blogs paid by the clicks aren't marketing
hahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are a fucking riot, girl.

>its showing there are girl heroes, not solo girl heroes.
Yes and MArvel never made the statment Carol was the first MCU hero. therefore, the joke doesn't have a correct premise tfor it to be funny.

I was thinking maybe there was something I was missing, but it turn out I was correct in assuming it require to believe in a false premise to make the joke work.

>n.n.nNO U
crying more doesn't negate crying. You are more exposed than a trannie's panty during AGDQ

Here we have an example of someone who can’t even consider the posability that they may be wrong.
Watch facts, explanations, details, and all forms of nuance bounce off as they cling to their first thought on the subject as the only objective truth in the universe!
Come one! Come all! And watch a man deny reality as waves of information are ignored to reiterate an already disproven point!
He may not stick around much longer folks so see the amazing tism while ya can!

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Technically isn't.

Honestly, though, it's using clickbait to get view, it's not so much them marketing the movie, but rather them using the popularity of the movie to get views. So, in this case, it's the movie that is marketing for the blog site.

sneed

stop lying liar

How stupid are you? It doesn't matter if Disney made it or not, Wonder Woman proved that female led super hero movies can be successful.

You are teh only one upset that I am poitng flaw in teh joke. tell me where I insulted people for finding it funny ?

>Here we have an example of someone who can’t even consider the posability that they may be wrong.
Statement 1: Marvel never claimed Carol was the first female super hero
Statement 2 : the premise of the joke is that Carol/marvel claimed she was the first female super hero.

Tell me what is wrong, there ?

liar

But Disney still wasn't convinced. It took several more years of pushing before getting CM. Nowhere in the article is it said it's the audience that needed convincing.

liar

>those real statement are wrong because I refuse history and reality.
yeah we got around that point already, you have some weird problem coping with facts, like an infant.

We did explain. Thats not the premise of the joke, you just keep saying it is. The entire thread has told you otherwise, but you just keep saying black is red.
Youve been gas lighting so hard I just reread the joke to make sure Im not losing it. The premise of the joke isnt subtle, black is not red, I cant figure out how else to break it down for you, and I am now legit concerned why you are online and on Yea Forums unsupervised.
Where is your keeper? Are you safe?

Sure.

Also, to make the joke work, here is my proposal again:

Make lisa a four-headed monster with the head of the female ghostbusters

Make the four other girl Sarah Connor, Ripley, Wonder Woman and the Bride from Kill Bill. And actually add the last part where four headed monster Lisa say "I need to go", because in this case, 2016 Ghostbuster made a flop.

Now the joke work, now it is funny. Do you see the difference ?

nice trick
liar

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>yeah we got around that point already,
I actually said those statment are true. And I wasn't proven wrong so far.

>Thats not the premise of the joke
It literally is. If you joke require people to understand that "sure, they never actually said that, but this is how I feel about it", then it is not a really good joke.

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I found it funny.

Are you that same cunt that got all butt hurt in that thread about British police celebrating Captain Marvel as the "first" female led superhero movie, because people were rightly upset by the false marketing?

>>yeah we got around that point already,
>I actually said those statment are true.
you spamming "I am god everything I post is true because I SAID IT" will get you nowhere. not in this thread, not in life.

>The entire thread has told you otherwise, but you just keep saying black is red.
the entire thread has said that they find the campaign obnoxious, which is an opinion and the joke fail to convey that notion properly. as I have said already>If you joke require people to understand that "sure, they never actually said that, but this is how I feel about it", then it is not a really good joke.

Objectively, teh joke is not well constructed. I have already provided a better exemple of how it would work properly>Make lisa a four-headed monster with the head of the female ghostbusters
>Make the four other girl Sarah Connor, Ripley, Wonder Woman and the Bride from Kill Bill. And actually add the last part where four headed monster Lisa say "I need to go", because in this case, 2016 Ghostbuster made a flop.
But you don't seem to care.

probably is and she is a say with with me
A LIAR

>"I am god everything I post is true because I SAID IT
Not my point. I said
>Statement 1: Marvel never claimed Carol was the first female super hero
>Statement 2 : the premise of the joke is that Carol/marvel claimed she was the first female super hero.
Feel free to prove that wrong.

your a faggot

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People where mostly upset in that thread because being told it was obvious it was about the first solo MCU lead and most people understood that immediately.

liar

sure.

Didn't Wonder Woman break that myth already?

People at Disney still weren't sure about it.

yeah she is a liar

I do

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If we want to be pedant, one could say Wonder Woman already had name recognition in the first place. She has been part of the popular culture for a long time beforehand. You could say Captain Marvel could make female Super Hero work for "literally who" characters (whic is more the case of Carol) too.

Maybe thats the point this article is trying to make.

got any more laughing reaction pics

Christ. Yea Forums is cancer. You fags honestly think your better than Yea Forums

The sad part is, we actually are.

>Maybe thats the point this article is trying to make.
Sure it was buddy...

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Not much

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with some mental gymnastics you too can interpret meanings in any way you want!

thanks I need them cause just one can get boring and I already used 2

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>This entire fucking thread

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Did you just out yourself as a samefag ?

If Captain Marvel is considered literally Who than so would have been AntMan.

>the Disneyshill is now mad enough to just attempt a spamkill on the thread to "punish" people who didn't join xzer point of view
How predictable.

I didso no I was responding to two posts far apart from eachother.

>Statement 1: Marvel never claimed Carol was the first female super hero
Irrelevant to the joke and conversation.
>Statement 2 : the premise of the joke is that Carol/marvel claimed she was the first female super hero.
The premise of the joke is that a large deal was made through marketing and social media that Carol was the first female lead solo MCU movie, and that there were already solo female led movies, solo super heroine movies, and female heroes in the MCU, making Carols entrance as a “first” anything oddly specific and not that relevant.

No where in those three edited panels is the marvel specifically mentioned. There is no place you can infer the premise of the comic as “marvel said she was the first and was wrong” unless you created that strawman in your own mind.
Youre asking everyone else who understood the comic at first glance to explain to you how the premise you derived is incorrect AND not based on anything from the comic, and when we do your answer is “Well the premise didnt work cause they never said that.” When the premise works reguardless of what marvel said and you simply just cannot grasp that concept.

Someone who cannot even consider the possibility that they may be wrong. Funny at first but sad the longer you stare at it.

That literally who Super Hero movies with a male lead would fail wasn't a strong pre-conception, though.

Who the fuck is Shang-Chi?

He wasn't biatch

>Irrelevant to the joke
That's literally the first line of the joke.
>The premise of the joke
The premise of the joke is literally that Carol enter thinking she is the first one. You can't get around it, no matter how hard you try.

Like I say, the joke didn't pic the right movie to make that complain. would have worked much better with Ghostbuster and action movie women.

>was the first female lead solo MCU movie
>there were already solo female led movies, solo super heroine movies, and female heroes in the MCU
You are aware that those two statement don't contradict each other, right ?

>No where in those three edited panels is the marvel specifically mentioned.
The last panel only use MCU female heroe
And Marvel, in the first place never claimed CM was the first female super hero either. Hence why the joke fall flat.

So you're pretending to be retarded enough to actually believe an online article was made to say "this one guy didn't think women superhero flicks could be successful, BUT HE'S WRONG" as if it was just for/about him?

So, you don't find >Make lisa a four-headed monster with the head of the female ghostbusters
>Make the four other girl Sarah Connor, Ripley, Wonder Woman and the Bride from Kill Bill. And actually add the last part where four headed monster Lisa say "I need to go", because in this case, 2016 Ghostbuster made a flop.
funny ? Or do you actually find it funny and that's why there is the reaction pic, there ?

>That literally who Super Hero movies with a male lead would fail wasn't a strong pre-conception, though.
OH MY GOD, shut the fuck up!
All you ever do is say that articles are "up for interpretation" well you know what?

I believe the correct interpretation of the article is that women couldn't literally break into the main offices of movie theaters before Captain Marvel.

Prove me wrong mother fucker, pro tip you can't because you're an incel.

liar

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>"this one guy didn't think women superhero flicks could be successful, BUT HE'S WRONG"
Not accurate, more like "Corporate suits thought it wouldn't work and they were proven wrong", which, yes, it quite along the kind of thing that article would postulate.

I mean, it's quite likely that most of their target readership already believed it would work, so obviously, it's not their readers they are accusing of being non-believers. And it's not the more common mass either, as the article use the action of the common mass (i.e., seeing the CM movie) to prove their point.

So, admitting the writter of this article want to blame someone for it not happening sooner, it's quite logical that the one they blame are the one WHO TAKE THE DECISIONS of what movies get done or doesn't. So yes, the one being proven wrong are the one who took so long to greenlit super hero female lead movie.

I did sa that it required a pedantic interpretation.

Sure.

Were is the lie ?

shut up incel

When stubborn and stupid get married there is just no stopping them.

Sure

She isn't.

This cuts to the problem with how things like these are perceived. Had a similar conversation with someone on Yea Forums how it is very much a case of feels over reals when it comes to liberal things and that's tough titties because they speak from authority. This means that authority is imagined; it's something that's inconsistently applied and comes loaded with suspicions about what is really meant. The spirit of "we need more 3D platformers" is different than "we need more diversity" even though they can be seen as having the same level of authority.
This takes that feeling and runs with it in an absurd direction that relies on you already making up your mind before you read what anyone says. You let your prejudices take over to make a joke about what you're sure is happening without evidence and anyone who doesn't get it is from an undesirable out group.

One time is a fluke, two times is closer to "breaking the myth". Yes, there is something unsafe about female driven super hero movies, so you're always going to get an article or two like these.

It was the SJW news making it like it's the first woman film.

It seems like we had this thread before but with black panther. There's hardly any idiots saying it's literally the first in history.

Its like they started the myth just to disprove it.
People take coincidences as personal slights agaisnt their identity and suddenly great progress must be made to even out shit.
Super hero movies just started to not suck. A good one used to be the exception. They were all risks. Yea one guy in the MCU didnt think women would work, and yes he DID cause damage, plenty, but people are acting like little girls finally have a role model. These are cape films, if this is the victory for women you were fighting for you need to get your priorities straight.

she is and you are obnoxious

Replace Lisa with T'challa and the four girls with Blade 1, Blade 2, Blade 3, and Spawn.

The comic is obnoxious. It comes loaded with a conversation no one is having.

You're right, but as you frame these as just cape films, what you're upset about is just clickbait and normie hype. It's like if someone says "oh man, so glad to see that Gunn is hired to do another GotG movie" you'd say "hey calm down, it's just a cape movie".

Disney said Black Panther was the first black superhero movie?

>making it like it's the first woman film.
Not really. anyone with two neurones knew they were talking about the MCU.

Disney didn't say CM was the first female super hero either. That's not stopping people from being upset.

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Big ol oof ya goof.

Nah, retarded news outlets were doing a lot of it leading up to the movie's release though.

>a lot
Can I see some sources?

You forgot one.

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I don't usually care about identity politics, but who the fuck cares about gender when it comes to music composition. I've listened to hundreds of thousands of songs in my life, and I don't know and don't care about a good 90% of who was behind any of it.

Seems the thread woulkd be better off going that way.

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Bitch, please.

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I understood the "joke", it's just not funny because it's not accurate to reality. You know when people say "it's funny because it's true"? Well this ain't it.

Do you seriously think nobody patted this movie on the back for kicking down open doors?

user, that's not the point. The point is that Captain Marvel is being patted on the back for proving Marvel movies with a female LEAD can be successful, yet OP's picture implies it's being patted on the back for being a Marvel movie with a female hero in it, posting other female Marvel heroes that WEREN'T the leads of their movies.

>for kicking down open doors?
They didn't pat it for having a female super hero, though. and it was effectively the first MCU movo with a solo female lead, which would have been less of an accomplishment had it been don sooner.

The point is kind of that for something that was supposed to be straightforward, it still took more than 10 years to happen.

Ah, I see what has been going, there. Posters thought they were arguing with SJWs, but instead they were arguing with autists. Oh well, their bad.

>Posters thought they were arguing with SJWs, but instead they were arguing with autists.
This describes most threads on Yea Forums.

I like how it autocorrects to mucus

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Yes she is.

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You know that's bullshit. There are literally examples itt of articles that contradict you Yes, with asterisks it's a first, but not everyone has bothered to put the asterisks in.

>examples
>one example
>example doesn't even say it's the first
*****

>Valkyrie
>the one who run away like a coward two times
>superhero

HA

fucking phoneposter

>You know that's bullshit.
It isn't. This wasn't written by Marvel Marketing team, not by Carol either.

The joke is accusing Marvel and/or carol of saying she is the first ever, not the clickbait articles. I am going to let you on a little secret on clickbait articles, user: they are usually not that truthful. Shocker, I know.

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This with an added they aren't real people's opinions, which is implied but needs to be said because people love reinforce the shitty worldviews with cherry picked clickbait. You see it happen all the time on Yea Forums; controversial hot take gets framed as popular thought despite it being handcrafted to be contentious among its intended audience.

You could argue that it's true she's the first one with a movie in the current MCU, but clickbait articles are often written incorrectly on purpose so people go and click and share and comment, giving them more money. It's not a real opinion or anything that proves the comic is in any way accurate beyond "it just feels like that".

>They said it was the first MCU movie with a solo female lead
>solo

So Fury doesn't count as a lead?

In Captain Marvel ? Well, no he is clearly a side-kick, objectively.

As a matter of fact, he is a secondary character in all of the MCU movie. he is just a bit more pro-eminent in Captain Marvel, but he is still clearly second role.

>"Oder news won't pretend she is the first MCU female hero either, user."
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>"I'm completely sure there's not a single instance of some sort of professional being retarded on the internet about some particular subject"

Please for the love of fuck go read a book and get off the internet. You seem like a genuine idiot for not understanding the argument here

>>"I'm completely sure there's not a single instance of some sort of professional being retarded on the internet about some particular subject"
Nope, not what it means at all.
>You seem like a genuine idiot for not understanding the argument here
It simply quite easily understandable that the argument is not good in the first place. The joke work on a false premise, that's it. If you wanted to convey that some fans act obnoxious about Captain Marvel (and frankly there is always fan who act obnoxiously in any fandom), this edit was not the right way to express it.

Where the fuck is Wasp? She was a fucking titular character in her movie. Get the fucking drunk out of there.

Pretty sure also that Falcon and Warmachine were heroes before Black Panther, and if we're talking about leads then there already was Blade and the Fan4stick.

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You mean with Falcon, Warmachine, Fury and then maybe Drax just to get all 4.

Meteor Man was better than all of them.

But a character doesn't matter unless they star in their own movie, because otherwise how would we pay these big celebrities and get them to promote merch for you to buy?????????

Your premise only works if a bunch of idiot journalists were saying it's the first in history, when they are mostly celebrating the representation in MCU and high budget movie marketing.

Also you're all forgetting Blankman.