Is Batman right or is he wrong ?

Is Batman right or is he wrong ?

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batman is a hypocritical asshole

If bitch is following him bitch should follow his rules.

I agree with Batman on a strategy/combat based level. You rely on yourself instead of a weapon, there can be no weapon turned against you.
I also agree that even if that's not what all guns are used for. The main purpose of a gun is a weapon that kills.
So he's right.

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He's not, at least not about it.

batman is autistic, what did you expect

Explain.

This

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>It's a mistake to rely on any one weapon in a fight, Batgirl.
>Get rid of your other weapon and so that now you have only one to rely on.
Batman's an idiot. If you don't want to rely on one weapon, then you should bring two guns and a knife or something.

OP's pic is an example
not everyone is batman, if they want to survive, gun is a survival tool for them whether you actually kill someone with it or not. He is just projecting his trauma and autistic hatred for guns to Barbara
who says you can't kill with a batarang? who says you can't kill someone with bare fists? batman sometimes uses more destructive weapons in his vehicles, those are okay?

Batman fighting style is all about being creative to surprise the enemy and avoid killing.

Guns are predictable and deadly.

You're making up excuses for Batman now. If that was the reason then he should have said so in the comic. Instead he said stupid bullshit.

>not everyone is batman
>make a suit just like Batman
>call herself Batgirl
>insist on following Batman around

If she don't want to be Batman she should stay as a cop. If she kill someone with a gun people will have a reason to think that Batman goal is not capture criminals to be judged but is judging and executing people himself what is straight up morally wrong.

That's pretty much what he said, also that's his style for 80 fucking years.

Batman expresses an OPINION, this is neither right or wrong, it's just an opinion.
You may find that if you share it, you will feel he's right, if you don't you'll say he's wrong.

Also it's a comicbook character written mostly to entertain. If it makes you think a bit, all's good. But don't draw absolutes from it.

In my opinion you're a faggot.

And for you, that's a valid opinion.

>make a composite of two pages
>still leave the advertising watermark
THE SHILLING IS NOT A THING! MOVE ALONG ESE

batman resorts to emotional fallacy when she's arguing that she says that it's just as a tool as his smoke bombs or batarangs

Just passing to remind these version of the characters were fucking and probably fucked that night.

i don't know how to remove it

How often does batman turn out anti-gun? I kinda figured he wouldn't be dumb enough to deflect the problem to the gun rather than the criminal, and that it's more of a fear tactic that he doesn't use guns himself

>How often does batman turn out anti-gun?
Batman's always anti-gun. How good his excuses for it are depends on the writer.

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He's not really right or wrong. A gun is philosophically antithetical to batman. A gun has to be used with the intent to kill. Batman is morally opposed to killing. Yes, a gun would be useful if they were there with the intent to kill, but he isn't. Batgirl might be willing to kill, but she's not arguing the merits of killing a villain. She's arguing the merits of a gun as a tool. It doesn't matter if it's an effective tool or not if it's a tool for a job you aren't prepared to do.

>It's a mistake to rely on one weapon
But why would you throw any weapon away?
>Your best weapon is your body
But what if your body fails?
>Batarangs are tools, but guns are only weapons
This is plain retarded.

Also, memories don't become more vivid over time. More likely he's producing a false memory based on evidence he's been going over for years. So that entire speech is just bullshit.

Yet he's not against giving these people head trauma potentially crippling or killing them.

He's wrong. The fact plot armor lets him get away with constantly bringing a knife to a gun fight doesn't change the fact that it is colossally stupid to do so.

The bigger issue is what a law abiding citizen with a gun is able to do, which is basically kill a person where legally allowed to do so. Batman chooses not to kill, so not carrying a gun makes sense. Telling others THEY should make the same choice is ridiculous though, because he's telling them they should die over choosing to defend themselves.

Guns are the great equalizer. You don't need years of training since you were 12 years old with Tibetan monks or whatever to be able to use one. Its what allows joe schmoe to live his life securely without having a billion dollars to throw at people to handle his shit for him while he LARPS as whatever makes him feel better about himself.

she's a police officer

>Telling others THEY should make the same choice is ridiculous though
Well she is the one who choose to use his suit, his logo, his Superhero name and be his sidekick.

Man,comic book writers sure love their gun stats. I wonder why they don't bring up OTHER, stats... DESPITE BEING 13%!

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They will likely survive while using a gun will higly likely kill them.

What's he gonna do? Sue her for copyright infringement?

No, he will take her suit off.

Punching someone can still cause major internal damage that's difficult to notice and harder to treat and a bullet entering someone's body does not automatically lead to death.

please continue...

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He wouldn't say this to an ACTUAL cop, would he? 'You shouldn't rely on guns, they're meant to murder human beings' as if they'd reply with 'Youre right Bats, we should all go to the secret monasteries and learn kung fu like you did, can you point us in the right direction'

>Don't rely only on guns
Right. You can be blinded or run out of ammo
>Get rid of it
Wrong. You might need it.
>Guns are only for murder
Technically right but not all murders are bad.

This is why it's hard for me to believe Bats has never killed anyone, there's such a fine line between a blow that 'just' knocks someone out and one that caves in something with lethal consequences.

Or even just the possibility of some thug landing badly on the hard concrete, both ways that can leave someone looking as if they just got knocked out when they're actually quietly dieing.

To be fair that should happen to every single superhero realistically.

How about killing animals? Ever tought of that?

Guns can be tools for justice, just like rape. Maybe Batman should rape criminals in the name of justice.

shut up gordon