All of the good cartoons either went to shit, died, or are in the process of dying

Then name them. I'm not being sarcastic or an asshole talk about them. I want to know what others think is good so I can see for myself if they are correct or should kill themselves.

>Buhoo comics aren’t up to my standards and therefore are getting worse
Off yourself, faggot.

If you haven’t evolved into appreciating the indie scene by now, then you only have yourself to blame

Craig McCracken is making a cartoon for Netflix and he's had a good track record so far. Most other shows look like shit, but who knows, maybe they'll surprise us and then go to shit after like one season

>i can't enjoy things anymore ergo the medium is dead

It's not them, it's you. Idiot

Name one good upcoming cartoon.

>all of the good cartoons either went to shit, died, or are in the process of dying
>>all of the new/upcoming cartoons look boring and uninspired
Are you me? Tell me which show upsets you the most for letting us down and which new cartoon do you think looks the worst

New shows are objectively worse, industry shills

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What if I was never with it and didn't care about being with it in the first place?

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Explain why instead of just stating your opinion as fact.

You think pic related is in any way defensible?

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>shills
you worthless shit.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out vic

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>i leaned a bunch of words from twatter drama threads do i fit in yet

So one example represents the entire list of upcoming cartoons?

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>owl house is already ruined if the rumors are to be beloved
>infinity train looks dull, as does the frog show
Only twelve forever might be good, and that’s a mighty big IF since Netflix has taken over.

>All female oriented
I mean that's great for my dick, but I can't really get into female oriented shows. And I tried a lot in manga just isn't for me.

We still had some good series in 2005. It's starting to feel more like 2007-2010 where there was nothing of worth except Flapjack, Chowder season 1 and ATLA

It's the same shit as the last wave, the 10's were really very weak. The only sign of improvement is the big shakeups at cartoon network. Just work on your backlog while you wait.

>Tranny show
>pedo lesbo show by creator who just got dumped by a garden gnome
>another tranny show but with FROGS!!!!
>Owen "every cartoon is a miracle you shitlords" Dennis
Nah all of those are shit, including Taco Gravity Falls

I feel worse for people who will watch literally anything and have no quality standards and have to resort to strawmen about nostalgia when someone disagrees with you.

What about taco con carne?

>10's were really very weak.
>Adventure Time, Regular Show and Gumball all premiered back to back and all were of high quality
>CN was finally giving a shit about action cartoons and we had several premier that same year as well
>Disney is promoting new animation for the first time in a while with Gravity Falls and also did some experimental stuff with Tron and Motorcity

Pedo lesbo show what? What’s the story behind this, user?

Villainous has a fresh style (because of how shit CalArts has gotten) but is pretty lame otherwise
Also has a fujo fanbase which doesn't help

None of those shows are anything better than 'OK'. Stylistic and creative homogeneity has overtaken the industry, everything looks and feels fairly similar with only a few exceptions.

There's a rumor going around that one of the directors of The Owl House heavily pushed for a lesbian relationship with the main character (an underage girl) and her mentor/mother figure (a Ryoko type old lady witch).

The show just recently got delayed AGAIN and it's not like the showrunners are denying what's been said either.

You have pretty shit taste mate

>Leaving Yea Forums

You know you can't last 10 minutes without us.

Go on, move to /fa/ or /k/ sooner or later, you'll break and you'll be crawling back here to be with the rest of us degenerates.

Have fun!

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Right back at ya.

Source

Even quite creative shows from unexpected sources go downhill very fast.
This hurts the most.

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Cartoons peaked with Earthworm Jim desu senpai

Why don't they make shows like BTAS and Spectacular Spider-Man anymore?

I feel this same way. Why are people not producing better stuff?
they have all those unlimited ressources to learn from.
well I think I finally will just work on my own comic now

Tell me 10 bad cartoons released in the previous five years (no Canadian shit because that's cheating) or you're full of shit.

People were already saying this constantly in the Late 00s, that it was weak or the downfall shit era. Now early zoomers are posting nostalgia memes for that era. You're just getting old.

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You know the saddest part? I planned on dying in 2013 January because I knew *everything* was going to Hell, but here I am still breathing. God fuck my laziness for not researching chemistry-biology. I barely even have the motivation left to search and watch cartoons, let alone prepare my means of escape.

Cute chinese cartoon with great graphics. The animation could be better though. Anyone checked out Filly Funtasia?

Now early zoomers are saying 2008-2014 was the golden age of music, when that era used to be very hated.

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Watch DC superhero girls

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You don't have to leave, you can make the switch to comics. There's always something decent around if you're a comicsfag

It looks rather ugly actually. I expected better from a show produced by Lauren Faust.

you are an adult
you shouldn't be getting angry about cartoons or watching them in the first place
you shouldn't be here in the first place
we shouldn't be here
oh god i've wasted my life.

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that's just how it is sometimes. I can imagine the amount of people who will be nostalgic for Steven universe or Star Vs 10 to 15 years from now

>Fosters
>Tweened but not too restrained/overused assets
>MLP
>Tweened with alot of reusable assets
>this
>Tweened
you expected better?

>heavily pushed for a lesbian relationship with the main character (an underage girl) and her mentor/mother figure

is there actually any case for this or are you guys making up shit once again

Not that guy but I only heard about it on Yea Forums and nowhere else.

Looney Tunes Cartoons is going to be good I hope the animation is good and the writing too. That show is going to be animated traditionally but it seems like there sticking to better designs than Wabbit. There is Klaus a American animated traditional 2D flim being helmed by a ex Disney Animator, but that's coming out in the winter. I've heard Green Eggs and Ham might be traditionally animated.

>where there was nothing of worth except Flapjack, Chowder season 1 and ATLA
ATLA started in 2005. Those other shitshows were the beginning of the end for cartoons.

>None of those shows are anything better than 'OK'. Stylistic and creative homogeneity has overtaken the industry, everything looks and feels fairly similar with only a few exceptions.
THIS though GF was great

>Gravity Falls
Gotta admit, there were some really good episodes in season 2:
>Northwest Mansion Mystery
>Not What He Seems
>Into the Bunker
>Dipper & Mabel vs the Future (at least the Dipper/Ford subplot)
That's off the top of my head

but Carmen Sandiego is not over ?

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Enjoy yours buddy you will miss it when its gone

Cartoon Network is the problem. Good concepts go there to die.

>It looks rather ugly actually
shit taste

The main characters animation is really good, notably Zatanna.

Look on the bright side, Between Friends just wrapped up.

Look a little harder for games and it doesn’t take long to find something good. 2017 was the best year for games in the past decade, maybe even longer.

People have forgotten how to enjoy things for what they are, rather than complaining they aren't what you think they should be. No show is perfect. Even the ones you like have things wrong with them, you just either don't notice or choose not to care. Complaining about how something looks or how something is written is pointless, especially here, and does nothing except make it harder for other people to discuss whatever they're trying to talk about.

And no, it's not a matter of having good taste. Having good taste means you can appreciate something that is excellent and articulate why. It's not about being unable to tolerate anything of lesser quality, or telling other people that they shouldn't be having fun if you aren't.

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>No show is perfect. Even the ones you like have things wrong with them, you just either don't notice or choose not to care.
>Everything is the same level of quality

If you enjoy the processed shit that gets churned out you should be shamed and harassed for contributing to the downfall of animation.

You won't make every restaurant into a high class eatery by boycotting McDonalds. You're just making yourself feel important by pretending that your personal tastes can affect what gets produced without actually producing anything.

No, what you are doing is encouraging the lessening quality by giving the worst of the worst views and notoriety and crying like a bitch when your shit taste gets called out. You are lower then waste

Ah, so you're a moron. Got it.

I'll get back to enjoying my cartoons, then.

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>moron
Says the literal retard who has no standards and will watch literally anything like the invertebrate he is

Jokes on you, I gave up on Western cartoons 4 years ago

what are you still doing here?

>and video games
You need to look harder and ignore the bullshit. There are plenty of games out there that aren't AAA crap. And even AAA stuff can be enjoyable like Spidey PS4 or our lord and savior over here recently

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Forever 12 does not look like the show we were piloted.

If you trust the Disney girl cartoons after Star vs. shit the bed, I don't think you should be judging taste.

Video games have actually been going through a revival in the last few years. Outside of AAA shit there's been a slew of good games that have come out lately.
Agreed with movies though, movies have been shit since the economy crashed back in late 2007 and still haven't fucking recovered.

Have you watched it?

Wrong. I enjoy plenty of new anime for what they are and I like lots of movies and games. I don't participate in that irony culture that so many of the kids are into. Cartoons are just in a sad fucking state right now

They do, but you don't watch them.

I still like comics and superhero movies and the occasional discussion of an older cartoon I liked

What shows are like either of them?

Oh fuck, I still can't stand most of the shitty music that would get spammed from that era, maybe it's just because 2014-2019 music is even shittier so it makes 2008-2014 look good by comparison

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The guardians of the Galaxy cartoon was pretty good.

Jesus Christ seriously? 2008 was when I dropped out of pop music entirely, and I was in fucking high school then. In fact I remember most people dropping out of pop music then, it was kind of surreal seeing a whole school of high schoolers that barely listened to pop music. I was under the impression that the 2008-2014 period would garner the same reputation as the shitty doo-wop era.

Zoomers need to be gassed

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Sucks to be you crybabies. I'm looking forward to Infinity Train, the ending of 12 Oz. Mouse and more experimental shows trying out ambitious and serialized storytelling. Too bad you faggots have to make absolutely everything about politics. You brought your misery on yourselves.

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People in this thread aren't talking about politics at all, you fucking what?

No it most certainly is not

Just a few more years and we'll be in full 2000s nostalgia. It's creeping up on us slowly

...Young Justice? It was made by one of the guys who created Spec. Spider-Man after all.

I'm actually surprised they're not.

There's nothing wrong with being nostalgic for 2000-2006 or 2007, those years were mostly pretty fun and gave us genuinely good shit like fucking Lord of the Rings and the Sopranos, not to mention some great cartoons and video games. It's the last part of the decade, after the economy crashed and executives for everything went into full cost-cutting mode, that's baffling to see people be nostalgic over.

>I enjoy being a mentally castrated faggot with no discern for the content I watch

>Cartoons are still good!
>Posts a collection of ugly and badly animated sóytoons which will inevitably be uninteresting and boring as fuck
I want to be optimistic too user, I want to believe good animation is still being created but your examples aren't helping

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Remember when Nickelodeon made THIS level of kino? Fuck modern TV. Take me back.

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Fucking hell, this. Xiaolin Showdown is the last show I remember enjoying. I thought Teen Titans GO! was funny but rewatching it, it's too obnoxious and has maybe a gem or two here and there. Obnoxious is probably the best word I can use, I don't know why, but there's just something about most of those cartoons in the 2006-onward era that irritates me. But that being said, it wasn't like all older shows were good. Tiny Toon Adventures isn't too entertaining but somehow, I found Inuyasha more enjoyable. Hell, a lot of anime despite their flaws were more enjoyable than Tiny Toons. I'm not even trying to be contrarian, I'm surprised at how bland it was.

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kids today google, not giggle. they play angry birds instead of getting angry AT birds. they all have an ipad but no iq. not even one. they playstation but they never play station. i.e. one pretending to be a train and the others pretending to be different trains or low paid maintenance workers. they’re obsessed with one direction, rather than enjoying all eight directions equally. facebook… but unable to face… a book. or a hoop with a stick. a lost generation. the tv show.

and what has that to do with cartoons?

Not him, but everything.

>they play angry birds instead of getting angry AT birds
Why would someone get angry at birds?

>i.e. one pretending to be a train and the others pretending to be different trains or low paid maintenance workers.
That sounds really gay

>they’re obsessed with one direction
Literally who

>THIS though GF was great

Witchfag is that you?

I'm a 90's kids and I didn't go out either, I was pretty much raised in front of the TV

>no toontown online

>Explain why
The animation itself is getting worse unless guest animated. The stories try too hard to be deep but clearly just run on a "make shit up as we go" basis, politics are dictating how characters are written, humor is on a decline, and worst of all I burnt my pizza.

Nobody likes Hilda? I think it's a great toon, even when compared to old cartoons.

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Fuck off Misha you know damn well that there are people here who like it already.

It’s fucking dull as dirt. It’s only good for the porn but the show itself is too boring.

Also I think Amphibia will be a good show, it doesn't seem to have nearly the amount of drama The Owl House has.

Yeah, but I mean if any of the "boohoo all cartoons suck I wish it was the 90s again!" faggots had considered it.

It is mainly theorized that the relationship was pushed by Sabrina Cotugno who is very vocal about trying to shoehorn LGBT nonsense into cartoons. Judging by the Star Vs episode she directed that came out recently, I'm guessing she probably wanted Luz to be attracted to Eda in a "wow she's so cool" kind of way.

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pushing hot lesbians isn't progressive at all

Amphibian looks too bland, literally nothing of value exsists now anyways bar some episodes of TLH

>dykes
>hot
Pick one and only one

Why hasn't anyone in Yea Forums with credible art/animation background enter the industry, work their way up and pitch their ideas?

I know its a long shot but if more people here did that instead of whining about the death of western animation, maybe you could help reinvigorate it?

It seems most people here are content to just complain on here then do anything else

Public opinion on it is so fucked, it’s gonna be a waste of energy. Same with American comics.

It's a boring "comfy" Toon, the artstyle is OK and animation isn't any better or worse than any other show, I certainly wouldn't compare it to the greats of older cartoons. Comfy is fine, but you need more than just "comfy" to make a show watchable, otherwise you just have a collection of images for someone's ASMR sleeping aid. Kind of reminds me of We Bare Bears which is another inoffensive "comfy" show which isn't especially funny or interesting but has a vague charm to it, and in the end I find myself wishing I liked both shows more than I actually do.

maybe because we are older and now can think critically i mean sure they were good shows back in the day but for example, some jokes in some cartoons that i watch when i was younger doesn't seem funny sometimes even cringy I can tolerate them thanks to the good times they brought me and that they are good shows in general but maybe nowadays we are not so forgiving in things like that so we overlook whatever good qualities the show may have

The real question is, in this current environment, why would you even want to?

You were supposed to stop watching them when you grew up. Now here you are with nothing to watch because you wanted to cling to what was left of your childhood.

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If your talking about politics. Your gonna work with alot of left leaning, progressive thinking people no matter where you work, its just something we all have to deal with at this point. A large chunk of the work force now are millennials and late boomers who are by in large, left leaning progressives.

And when it comes to politics in cartoons, theres still alot of shows that don't really have strong politics embedded into them. Alex Hirsch may be a total rabid leftist, but Gravity Falls largely didn't have much politics in it. Same can be said for Clarence or even Regular Show. Just because most studios are largely progressive these days, doesn't mean you have to put their politics into them.

>If your talking about politics. Your gonna work with alot of left leaning, progressive thinking people no matter where you work, its just something we all have to deal with at this point. A large chunk of the work force now are millennials and late boomers who are by in large, left leaning progressives.
Why are millennials so retarded about their political views? Why molded the current zeitgeist to become so ass backwards?

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user DON'T LOOSE THE HOPE! DC SuperHero Girls came to save the industry!

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Suddenly, magically, pretty automatically crushing it side by side

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stop spamming this shit

People will always be nostalgic. No matter what.

See you guys in 10 years when that generation of cartoons suck and 2010's cartoons were so much better.

>people here don't realize this is a joke

Tween animation is lazy and offputting. Literally uglier than CG.

But not everything is tween animation.

I'm excited because of all the cool shit coming out in the rest of the world.

No, really. If you expand your scope globally there's comics and cartoons being put out on every continent, and it keeps improving in quality.

youtu.be/gHwoMAvDiUY
youtu.be/VC-vzrR6XU4
kugali.com/
youtube.com/watch?v=fX78pL_nnRI
vimeo.com/257114813
vimeo.com/252425222
youtube.com/watch?v=eA0JVAeSibc

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>movies and mostly in 3D
Yeah, you didn't refute OP point.

Just a few more years and we'll be in full 2000s nostalgia. It's creeping up on us slowly
There's only one reason I'm looking forward to that

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>trying too appease the everything cancer crowd
there is no point there just shitters crying. and demanding that everyone think like them.

>Why hasn't anyone in Yea Forums with credible art/animation background enter the industry, work their way up and pitch their ideas?
It's weird that we get people who do but they immediately become stuck up snobs who do that pathetic shit storyboarders do on twitter that mock fans who criticize the series.

That guy who made Legendary Place made a Yea Forums jab that everyone here just shitposts and any criticism is not serious.

Yea Forums is dead

See you next week, OP

I've been coming here less for a long time now because I haven't truly enjoyed a cartoon since Wander Over Yonder ended. Comics have been worse for longer still.

Same except when RS ended (season 8 was... something). Wander was good. I've mainly been going to Yea Forums for the few anime I've been watching instead. I used to not go a day without at least checking the Yea Forums catalog but I have these past few months. Eventually i'd like to imagine a cartoon can make me return. I'll give Close Enough a chance whenever it stops being in release date limbo, but aside from that every upcoming series looks like what I despise. Maybe Craig's Netflix series will be good.

He's my last hope. I mainly hole up in /tg/ nowadays.

perfectly put into words. there are so many shows that I want to like because of the mood and/or artstyle, but are just slightly too bland to be worth it

Toonami General or Traditional Games board?

>adventure time is over
>regular show is over
>gravity falls is over
>Star Vs. became boring
>Steven Universe became stale

I feel shitty that the only thing I'm vaguely interested cartoon-wise nowadays is the whatever SU movie planned. Only 2010s iconic carton I never tried was Gumball, but I want something with some kind of plot, not just one off episodes. If I want to watch another cartoon where plot doesn't matter hell I usually just watch some classic spongebob. Like im not even that excited for SU I've just watched it from the beginning and I want (or I feel like I owe it to myself) to just see where they're going with it and see how it ends. Unfortunately they make 1 episode every 2 months even when it's airing.

Anything out there nowadays that I should jump into? I miss having a handful of cartoons that I look forward to every week.

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>furbait
>potential

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The latter.

>>Star Vs. became boring
Star Vs became more than boring. It became the biggest example of the problem with women run cartoons. All the others women have made had bits and pieces of Star's issues but Nefcy combined them into one gigantic shitshow. A shining example for real.

Based latinoposter

GODDAMIT, Misha, I was about to post Hilda.

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fuck you.

I thought so, saying /tg/ would be a bit vague for a small-time general. Anyway games aren't my thing but I'm sure it's a better board than what Yea Forums has been.

I don't know much about your tastes, maybe Final Space? wasn't the best show ever but it's episodic and the next season is coming soon

>Soul
>MLP with DC super heros, and obnoxious fapbait
Could you please stop forcing your shitty show, I'm starting hating it already.

I've never played a ttrpg in my life, it's just one of the only decent boards left, despite being infinitely worse than it was a few years ago. I like fantasy, monsters, and worldbuilding too much to stay away. Yea Forums will always be my home board, though, in spite of everything. 10 years.

Yeah, final space was pretty good. Gary is shit tho, I'm only looking forward because avocato.

2012-2016 was a pretty good year for cartoons, if you could handle gay rights. But now there's really nothing, the Renaissance ended with the success of reboots

Yea, Yea Forums has always been my main board too.. Good luck user and may we get good cartoons in the near future.

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I've actually seen Final Space and it was refreshing to watch a good cartoon with an interesting plot again. Looking forward to season 2, but I wish there was more of an idea of when we could expect it.

>Unironically liking video games from the 90s more
90s gaming sucked. Let's be honest here. Now you're an adult, and you don't have time to keep up with video games, so you piss all over them because sour grapes.

I will take movies and cartoons suck because it's true but at this point your just samefagging

Those were all literally the best at their second season.

Patrick McHale wants to talk with you, user.

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>I wish there was more of an idea of when we could expect it.
At least you know it's coming.

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18fag here, what we remember is reruns of the best early 00s shows and early 10s Renaissance shows.

The problem isn't that we liked the show you guys hated but that you guys forget that the 90s had plenty of shitty shows people forgot too. Remember all the Ren and stimpy clones?

>Working my way into animation industry
>Most of my actual knowledge about current cartoons comes from Yea Forums, almost never watch modern cartoons myself and have surprisingly little desire to do so
>Yea Forums in general has lately been feeling like the same few threads and memes over and over with little actual substance
>The only reason you haven't quit going on Yea Forums is because you don't have a good enough social life to be consistently entertained by the real world

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Except for Steven and maybe gumball, with the rest I second you.

Eh the early 2000s were good. It was the late 2000s that were infamous

One of my favorite things about this show was Wirt's VA's acting, it wasn't too "real talk" and it wasn't too cartoony. I also loved for the first time in awhile seeing a cartoon with tiny visual things that aren't called attention to or mentioned but can be appreciated for just being there, like the scene where Wirt trips over the thing in that rich dude's house and kept walking.

Another show example of stuff like that would be the banners in Bojack but that show really went to shit very fast. Still haven't seen S5 after that god awful 4th one.

>Yea Forums in general has lately been feeling like the same few threads and memes over and over with little actual substance
Gamergate shot Yea Forums in the head and the 2016 election buried the body.

>>The only reason you haven't quit going on Yea Forums is because you don't have a good enough social life to be consistently entertained by the real world
Hung out with someone last week for the first time in 4 years (not that person specifically, in general) and Yea Forums was pretty much off my radar. If I could hang out with him more often this place would be a literal blip, only going to Yea Forums for the only series I'm currently watching whenever they decide to have threads for it (not often) as it is.

I basically come to this board now for news on any future shows (waiting for one to care about) or older show threads. Yea Forums never has fucking threads for the shows i liked in the past (not rocko or catdog old, regular show old) though, only furthering my distance.

The memes are insufferable. I could handle and partake in my fair share of memes and shitposting but the Pepe politics and boomer zoomer (redacted)boy wojaks are just grating. Shitposting and memes were never highbrow but those are especially juvenile, kinda like anyone who uses kino. It's bad enough these awful fucks are encouraged with certain threads, even the draw yourself threads are a-ok with cat mouth emoticons and art styles we used to have style bashing threads for.

>no one reads all this
it just f

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BOO

HOO

Thank god for Anime. Not saying every Anime is good but every season there are 1 or 2 shows that make anything ever made in the West irrelevant

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what are some of those shows you liked in the past?

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What year/event will dig it back up and pull a weekend at bernies?

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Regular Show itself is a good example. Top tier in the beginning and serviceable after the network nutered it. I liked it for many reasons but one is that it was like the last "guy" cartoon I could find. It was bizarre that most others this decade needed a girl in the main group even if she didnt fit. RS was always sort of ignored on the board and the more tame later seasons didn't help. Usually overshadowed by AT.

I guess I'll have to think on some others. Suddenly my list is gone mentally. If anything it'd be like Wander or Harvey Beaks where we have the occasional thread (more often than RS) but WoY threads got ruined, and I was never 100% 'into' those shows, they were just stuff I enjoyed here and there. RS would still be the defining example.

>it just f
feels cathartic to vent, damn

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>Girl gets throws into a magical world with a small comedy relief sidekick and must defeat an evil woman
How did they do it four times in a row?

Oh it is so like you Yea Forums to do this.

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Nobody's gonna even pretend that's a valid opinion.

Regular Show had A LOT of threads back then, it was the most popular show right behind AT, as far as I remember

>RS was always sort of ignored on the board and the more tame later seasons didn't help.
This isn't true at all you literal kid

Gravity Falls, Korra, AT, Star, etc have always had more. It was mainly episode premiere threads it had, and even then some episodes came and went without a single thread. It had a surge during Exit 9B when everyone was impressed and thought Thomas was going to be a big deal. The Christmas Special too. Then everyone realized the show just didn't have the same punch towards the end of S4 and S5 started the decline. S7 and S8 for all its posturing over having an ongoing plot (or two) didn't have much to discuss, it was blatantly obvious from the beginning that the park was going to space, and no one cared anyway. Rigby going to school was negated by everyone pissed he cheated his way through and it was seen as progress in character development.

For the first roughly 3 seasons it had a decent time, I remember being there when Bad Kiss leaked by an employee (or it seemed) and everyone started getting tired of the status quo even after they literally kissed. Then Do or Diaper aired and the self insert diaper furfaggotry fetish shit started getting thrown around at JG/fans. I remember Gumball had less threads though despite being a developing big name (it never really went too far but it used to have more threads than it does now, man did that series fucking bomb quality wise.) We also had actual FoP threads back then.

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No one wants your shitty fanbase name, by the way

>kinda like anyone who uses kino.
Why is this spoilered? It's the truth

The truth hurts, doesn't it

Because there's a fuck ton of people on this board into spouting that shit.

You would know.

>hands you infinity train
>"no i dont want it"
>hands you 12 forever
>"no i dont want it"
>hands you amphibia
>"no i dont want it"
>hands you owl house
>"no i dont want it"
>"uh no of course i dont hate female leads, wheres the guy shows btw"

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All of those things you named are bad user

Have you seen them?

>For the first roughly 3 seasons
And that was enough. The first 3 seasons were the best ones. It got boring as fuck after that and people just dropped the show. The fandom had a good run from 2010 to 2013. Those were the last decent years of Yea Forums and Yea Forums. The gamergate and the fapening killed this website.

I don't even mind political threads or other shit; it's just that modern Yea Forums (especially Yea Forums but not excluding Yea Forums) seems to reduce the entirety of its discussions to twitter screencaps and other things that don't fucking matter at all and use memes like "incel" or "have sex" to the point where it has nothing to do with whatever the original movie/whatever is.

Kino will never go away cause it's such a convenient term for something that's really good. Its problem is its so convenient that it makes people more lazy about typing meaningful opinions.

>And that was enough.
Sure, but they didn't have a huge amount of threads, more than "serviceable" but by no means the same as AT or the others. I'm glad we had what we did and "sort of ignored" was hyperbole, but relatively not on Yea Forums's radar. I agree that's when the show changed for the more boring, I said as much, and that the fandom existed/had a nice run during that timeframe. I couldn't agree more that those were the last decent years of Yea Forums (I can't speak for the site as a whole because I never really went to the other boards, but I can realize the difference in users). We have an occasional good moment here but they all pale in comparison due to forced memes and reactions, or the content not being good and the users being faggy.

and OP if I had to say something to you it'd be that this is your signal to grow up and move on.

>I don't even mind political threads or other shit
I'm tired of the woman empowerment threads where everyone huddles together and reminds everyone of the true meaning of the tumblr buzzword which has been dragged through the mud where people pretend the term has never had a meaning that made sense.

>infinity train
Looks kind of interesting but the "ALL CARTOONS ARE MIRACLES" sperging the creator did makes me wary; like he's preemptively defending criticism.
>12 forever
It looks like a forgettable 2000s show
>Amphibia
Best case scenario it's just Gravity Falls for a younger demographic
>Owl House
Doesn't look bad from what we've seen but Dana Terrace and Sabrina Cotugno are incredibly obnoxious

>but they didn't have a huge amount of threads
>but relatively not on Yea Forums's radar
You sound like a 2014-2015 boi. Regular Show was huge in 2011.

2007 was so good for gaming, I miss the hype I had back then for games

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I've been speaking from before 2014. RS was certainly sizeable in 2011 and I won't argue against it, but on Yea Forums the board swayed way more in favor of other shows. It doesn't help the peak in 2011 didn't last very long, I remember when I started seeing less threads and was wondering if it was just, as we'd call it, a flavor of the month kinda thing, but it did come and go.

I assure you I am fucking not a post 2013 user. If I were I imagine I'd be unable to control my urges to post wojak's head imploding with this very post. It's like a mental condition those users have that goes beyond being kids.

You were young.

>2011
>PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

True but also games like Cuphead and Hollow Knight gave this very same good feeling and experience.
So im not that grumpy old man yet

2011 was a good year to be on Yea Forums, at least. Things really started declining around 2014.

...isnt that the justin beiber era

>Yea Forums rejects the one cartoon with true soul
>Western animation dies the very next year
Yes I know Yea Forums wasn't around yet but I still blame you guys somehow

I miss
>2011
>ISHYDGGT
every day. Damn good year. Costanza, Kornheiser, rustled jimmies.

Oh ffs, don’t bring this discussion over here

man how do you guys even remember stuff like that, it's all a huge blur for me

I had potential and something to live for back then, so the reminiscing comes naturally.

Speaking of 2010-2011, does anybody remember this cartoon? youtu.be/mnhh4yMmSFI

We JUST got RE2 and DMCV my dude, quit being so negative

Like you can do better

KNOCK KNOCK OPEN UP THE DOOR IT'S REAL

not him but i've been trying to make a pilot with no budget and im not talking about any the_dewd tier shit either

>my dude
IT IS WEDNESDAY

American animation is dead. European animation is thriving.

C'mon, man. Be positive. Think of your favorite animated show, and then think about what its pilot and first season looked like. Think about all the series that you've watched that you loved, and that were produced years ago, and you only just discovered.

Just because what you see now doesn't excite you doesn't mean that you won't fall in love again.

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>"European animation is producing stuff I like"
Not saying it's wrong to like that stuff but I don't think dead is accurate

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Does that mean everyone in Yea Forums who tries is doomed to become consumed by their hubris and never actually save Western animation?

hey, user, have you ever considered maybe, just maybe YOU are the problem, maybe YOU got old and let the bitterness take over yourself and that's why you can no longer enjoy things?

>OLD THING GOOD
>NEW THING BAD
This is only because you are unable to get a complete picture of what the old things actually where.
Only the good or the enjoyably bad things are kept around, everything else is simply forgotten.

European animation is non-existent except for the frogs'. And they just churn out soulless magical girl shit as if they are unaware of other genres, or quality for that matter.

>Nuna
You are my nigga, user.

I think thats also to do with the fact that the Nips put out way more content a year than the West. Like with cartoons, you get like 10 - 20 new projects every year? Nips literally pump out like 30 new projects every other season which is 4 seasons in total. Yeah for the most part its mostly trash, but the fact that the number of content is that large means your bound to get at least 10 good series a year.

>European animation is non-existent except for the frogs'
>What's cartoon saloon?

>And they just churn out soulless magical girl shit as if they are unaware of other genres, or quality for that matter.
>I haven't seen french animation besides Witch crap

Whenever people talk about animations from France, the only aspects that keeps being brought up (or it seems so) is that there are cute girls and that it is lewd

I don't really like to go throught 30 shitty shows every season until finding something that I actually like. And when I find something that I like ussually is filled with tropes that I don't like. or bland designs that I've seen before.

Most cartoons right now airing new episodes or being developed are objectively awful. As in, some are strongly to one demographic without broad appeal. Don't like this politic thing? Incel! Don't like this setting? You just hate fun (depite fun being had in other better executed settings)!

Videogames only seem bad if you're stuck on AAA garbage. There's lots of good indies especially if you like arpgs and metroidvania.

This. You only remember the good because you were young and everything else you considered not good back then was either forgotten or you didn't acknowledge it.

>Why hasn't anyone in Yea Forums with credible art/animation background enter the industry, work their way up and pitch their ideas?
They have but nu/co/ hates them.

>Why hasn't anyone in Yea Forums with credible art/animation background enter the industry, work their way up and pitch their ideas?
Bitch have you actually been in Yea Forums? This place is filled with angry contratian beast that hates and loves everything equally. If someone actually would try to make a cartoon based in Yea Forums ideas there would always be someone autistically complaning.

>>What's cartoon saloon?
A studio that only makes preschool series? Sorry, I don't give a shit about movies. TV is where it's at

>>I haven't seen french animation besides Witch crap
Unfortunately, I've seen LoliRock (which is at least cute and wholesome), ML (total garbage) and TS (what's worse than total garbage? Canadian-influenced shit, that's what). Plus Wakfu is basically magical boy shit in the same vein as Avatar except much worse (and even Avatar itself doesn't compare to W.I.T.C.H.)

>Whenever people talk about animations from France, the only aspects that keeps being brought up (or it seems so) is that there are cute girls and that it is lewd
Because the French can't into writing. The one and only time they made a truly great cartoon was when Americans wrote it for them and they did the rest. (Sadly the only studio that seemed capable of following that model is gone)

>TV is where it's at
That's why you only find things that you don't like, user, if you only see TV crap you won't find anything worthy.

>Most cartoons right now airing new episodes or being developed are objectively awful.
>And they are awful because I SAID SO and my word is law
Calm your tits, friendo

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figures you'd post hilda with a shit response like that

Movies just aren't nearly long enough to get truly invested in them, user. Even if they have sequels, they are pretty much always meant to be watched standalone first and foremost.

Now, that's not to say I don't like live-action movies ofc - there's a level of art in the best ones that animation has yet to reach, even if I still can't get invested in the same way. But no animated movie can even touch the best TV cartoon, let alone compete with real movies.

tl;dr: Animated movies have neither quantity nor quality going for them.

>Another let's suck up to the weebs (East vs. West) type of threads.

LOL. Pathetic. Just admit you're a weeb and fuck off, already.

okay but why did you post an empty brick wall?

The one and only time cartoons were verging on greatness was when they copied anime during the 2000s craze. Weebs nearly saved Western animation, and they could do it again... in theory.

>hurr everything sucks now
Yeah that might be true but what's stopping you from ending it.

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Bitch, if you really REALLY belive that, I can only say you should watch more cartoons. Otherwise, decent bait, you made me answer.

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Why do all cartoons have to be overly simplistic, circular and light/humourous? Why can't we have shaded angry dudes in angular powersuits shooting lasers at monsters who want to eat them? This is a rhetorical question. What I'm trying to say is that people claiming cartoons haven't gotten worse should be strangled.

>metroidvania

Not him but lay your recommendations on me. I loved Symphony of the Night.

Based on your reply I don't think you understood my post at all (despite the tl;dr for retards).
Wasted trips

I've seen enough to know that they will suck

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>Just realizing this now

The writing's been on the wall for a long time

That's a stupid reply. "You are no longer seeing action cartoons because companies don't care". If they don't care enough to make them then they also don't care enough to ban them. So where are they? Surely some producer would want to make something different.

>"B-but they aren't profitable!"
Your ugly thin line eyepuke isn't selling merch and it's so bad that children are turning their attention to tablets and youtube. They aren't making any profit.

>yelling at a fucking screencap

>zoomer this, zoomer that
cant wait till you old fucks from Yea Forums realize that we are the future and theres literally nothing you can do about it.
>t. 1998 fag who found 2008-2010 CN and nicktoons fucking boring but loved 2000s shows like grim adventures and ed edd n eddy

Me unironically.

>That's a stupid reply
Not as stupid as you
>Surely some producer would want to make something different
No in the age of live action capeshit
>They aren't making any profit
They are. We bare bears is popular as fuck in Asia and it gets ton of merch. nuPPG renewed the PPG brand and the merchandise popular. Ben 10 is bigger than the DC Extended Universe (7B vs 6B).

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Bruh you're a decade late to this party.

based

There isn't a single cartoon in the last decade that stayed as good as my favorites Kids Next Door or ATLA so I do think new thing is kind of bad

>calarts costs 50 grand
>netflix killing legacy networks

we're so close to the collapse

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Here is something nasty from an insider, Amazon wants to make a Kids Prime and is going to buy a shit load of cheep animated shows.

These. Fellow zoomer here. A lot of the shows I watched growing up were reruns of older content. I remember when they started to stop airing EEnE and Invader Zim I was disappointed because they were my favorities. I feel like newer shows just lack the sense of style that shows pre 2011 had. Compare a show like Fosters or Billy and Mandy to Steven Universe or Adventure Time. The difference is jarring, and keep in mind that they shared the same airtime for a little while which made it incredibly noticable. The old shows had distinct style and writing that was sharp, faced paced, and fun. Some of the new shows didn’t have strong direction, and they had this awkward Internet humor that didn’t really appeal to kids. Flapjack started the whole trend, and a bunch of CN shows copied it. There were still great shows in the early 2010s though, but I’m mostly taking about CN.

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Uh huh.

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I just critiqued every pitch in the Cartoon Ideas thread

Realistically most of Yea Forums doesn't know how or what to pitch. I read a lot of things that are tonally and thematically unfocused with little clarity of intended demographic. Things that had little commercial appeal and obvious fetish bait. There were really good ideas there too but for the most part Yea Forums lacks the polish to create something that actually has a chance at success.

This isn't yelling. THIS IS!

>No U

Amazing level of maturity right there.
I'm calling bullshit about WBB and nuPPG.

Aren't the chinese buying off the animation studios in japan though? anime will be in chink hands now, how does that make you feel?

We are getting too old

I'm enjoying Rise of the TMNT. But that's about it.

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