A TV show on the Syfy channel managed to make a better looking Doomsday than a movie on a $250–300 million budget

Move over.

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Outside of Lex using his body, Zod being turned into Doomsday had no purpose whatsoever. The very least they could have done was have him be a tiny bit lucid to reflect that hey, this used to be Zod but nope. He just provided the raw material to make a Frankenstein monster.

I don't understand why Snyder used Doomsday in the first place since he's a shitty character or even adapting the Death of Superman with the second goddamn movie but making him look like a LotR troll reject was just the shit cherry on top.

>Even has the red eyes
This looks so much cooler than what we got.
I love BvS, but fuck Zack Snyder man

Having Zod be turned into Doomsday is meant to show the unintended consequences of Superman killing Zod and thematically parallel how, if Batman kills Superman, he will come back as evil (as shown in the Knightmare sequence)/it will just create more evil in the world.

Death begets death.

>muh deep themes in BvS
Next you'll tell me how great the Christ imagery was because Superman is Jesus.

Based Snyder

Shut the fuck up

>theres a reason they made it bad
Doesn't stop it from being shit.

Too bad his vision was butchered by the WB

Just now?

The beauty of pratical effects

There isn't anything deep about it, it's basic film structure my dude. Also no one said anything about Christ, you sound like a crazy person.

no

I never said I liked howed Doomsday was designed. I don't think it's great but I don't think it's terrible.

And there is nothing inherently bad about Zod being Doomsday and having Lex make him.

That is not a practical effect, retard.

The stupidity of that whole fight....Wonder Woman cuts off DDs arm. Why did they even need the fucking Krypto-spear?? Just cut the fuckers head off with WWs sword.

His head would grow back. The entire point was that he kept growing back all of his limbs.

>And there is nothing inherently bad about Zod being Doomsday and having Lex make him
Inherently? Sure. A decent writer might be able to make that work. Snyder sure as fuck didn't.

Dude, Doomsday's entire thing is that he will adapt to anything. He grew his arm back and adapted to WW. Read the comics you casual.

But he didn't grow back his limbs, it was basically a an extended bone growth. What the fuck would grow to replace his head?

You really haven't said any reason why it didn't work. I think it did, one reason being what I stated above about Zod and Batman.

Also Snyder did not write the movie. Don't be stupid.

He did, he grew his arm back into a weapon to adapt to WW's sword/fight her better. He would just grow his head back normal or with more armor/plating or whatever.

>His head would grow back.

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Literally Doomsday's entire thing is to adapt. His main origin/power is dying over and over again and becoming stronger each time he comes back. Read. The. Comics. But since you won't I'll quote wikipedia at you to show you how much of a fucking scrub you are:

> Over time, and without the assistance of Bertron's technology, he gained the ability to thrive on solar energy without the need for food or air, to return to life and adapt in order to overcome whatever had previously killed him. The Ultimate hunted and exterminated the dangerous predators of Krypton. He then killed Bertron himself, whom he had come to identify as an enemy.
>gained the ability to thrive on solar energy without the need for food or air, to return to life and adapt in order to overcome whatever had previously killed him.
>to return to life

So, yes, his head would grow back. Dude survived a fucking nuke and would survive having his head cut off.

Making him Zod gives him an actual weakness, kryptonite.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THIS RETARD

Yea Forumsmblr doesnt read comics, I guess.

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I feel like you did not love the Synder Version of the Thanagarian Snare Beast as much as the producers wanted.

>Making him Zod gives him an actual weakness, kryptonite.

All it did was give Snyder an excuse to add in more visual references to better work, in this case the ending of Excalibur. He wanted to put in a reference and worked backwards.

I feel like just cutting his head off would have been a much better solution. That would have at least distracted him long enough for Wonder Woman to Kryptonite Spear him. Also, for all of his adaptation, I have seen Doomsday defeated with brute force on multiple occasions. His adaptong powers seem to be more of a suggestion for writers at times. It is even harder to use comic logic for a movie that has no logic, not even comic logic.

I'm guessing that Synder was trying to go towards a more creepy looking Doomsday

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Wow you just now realize that characters have varying power levels depending on the writer? Amazing.

Terrio and Goyer decided to make a very powerful Doomsday that we see survive a nuke. If a nuke doesn't slow him down neither will cutting off his head.

Also why do you think WW would even be able to cut off his head? It never seemed like she could get close enough/control the fight enough to cut off his head. She struggled to keep him tied up with a magic lasso made by gods.

And everything in the movie is logical. It seems like are just mad that Doomsday had a stronger power level then in your head canon.

>Outside of Lex using his body, Zod being turned into Doomsday had no purpose whatsoever.

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Well whoever fucking wrote it. For one, introducing Doomsday to kill off Superman in your second movie is probably the shittiest idea imaginable. It doesn't serve the story since Doomsday is just a final video game boss with no character whatsoever and you know Superman is going to be brought back right after. Merging Doomsday with Zod was pointless since they never really took advantage of it. It was literally just Doomsday that just so happened to be made from Zod's dead body. Outside of these "themes" Doomsday being a Zod Frankenstein has no effect on the movie at all. Lex in general was a mess of a character with shitty motivation and his reasoning for making Doomsday are paper thin and serve no other purpose than him being the designated villain so he has to create conflict with Superman. The movie was a mess of poorly thought out themes, imagery, and writing and this particular aspect is no different.

I fucking hate these empty image comparisons Snyderfags always resort to.

>And everything in the movie is logical.
What did he mean by this?

>Batman Vs Superman Vs Lex Luthor: Also Doomsday is in there at the end also Wonder Woman
I totally forgot Doomsday was in a movie. What a shit show that film was

Do you want me to elaborate further? The image is enough. Zod was used as Doomsday not only because it made a callback to MoS, but because Doomsday in the movie is supposed to be Superman's shadow. Or a dark reflection, whatever. He's every failure and regret that Superman spent the first two arcs of the movie trying to not directly face. Some of it helped by Lex Luthor and the media, of course, but most of it straight from Superman.

Do you know what I am talking about? You have not caught on, it seems. I mentioned something from the comics with that statement. People talk about Doomsday's adaption like it is absolute, but considering that he has been knocked out and or beaten to death on several occasions, it seems like that absolute regeneration is not so absolute.

Also, it should be evident that WW sword is above a Nuke. The nuke did less damage to Doomsday than WW did. That whole nuke scene made no sense though overall. Superman should not be stopped by a nuke, and Doomsday should not habe been knocked back to Earth by a nuke.

I have rewatched it on several occasions, and Wonder Woman did get close enough to cut his head off and or do more serious damage than just lopping off a hand. Also, considering that the sword went through Doomsday like butter, WW should have been able to just cut him up.

Also, everything in the movie is logical? Doomsday failing to hit Batman? A ragdolled Doomsday getting knocked backwards by a nuke? The kryptonite spear sacrifice for no reason? WW chopping Doomsday's hand off?

Everything in the movie being logical is a tougher stretch. Superman stood still and let The Mad Hatter create Doomsday. This was basically Superman Lives revived.

>Outside of these "themes" Doomsday being a Zod Frankenstein has no effect on the movie at all.
The themes are important, though. Very important. Zod's supposed to symbolize Superman's failure and regret. He's a monster as much as Superman is made to be seen a monster or feel like one. That's why Doomsday being Zod is important.
>everything else you sad about Lex Luthor
Aw, fuck. You're a brainlet.

He honestly looks like an oversized orc with that facial design.

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>jerking off Zack Snyder's shovel-to-the-face symbolism this hard

Symbolism you seem to have missed, apparently.

Holy shit your right that actually pretty hilarious

>Babby's first analysis

Zod should have become bizzaro. Luthor would have dressed him up like Superman. Then people could have seen Superman protect them from the very monster they fear he is.

> People talk about Doomsday's adaption like it is absolute, but considering that he has been knocked out and or beaten to death on several occasions, it seems like that absolute regeneration is not so absolute.

What part of the "the writer decides the power level" do you note understand? In this adaptation we clearly see that he regrows very fast, right after being born, so that is a pretty good marker for his power level. But this point is mute because WW is never in a position to cut off his head.

>Superman should not be stopped by a nuke, and Doomsday should not habe been knocked back to Earth by a nuke.

Again, you are just complaining that the writers didn't use your head canon power levels like an autist.

>Wonder Woman did get close enough to cut his head off and or do more serious damage than just lopping off a hand.

No she didn't you liar. I literally just rewatched it to be sure, and she does not get anywhere NEAR close enough. The one time she strikes towards his head, he shoots a giant laser at her, sending her flying.

>WW should have been able to just cut him up.

Rewatch the scene, he is constnatly hitting her away with energy beams or jumping away. And obviously it doesn't always cut through him like butter, seeing as how there are several moments where she hits him with the sword without penetrating its skin.

> Doomsday failing to hit Batman?

He does hit him with the laser beam and was weakened by kryptonite gas.

> A ragdolled Doomsday getting knocked backwards by a nuke?

This is just your imaginary power levels. In this universe that is how powerful Doomsday is when it comes to concussive force.

>The kryptonite spear sacrifice for no reason?
Superman was literally the only one who could get close enough while WW held the lasso, its not like they had time or the ability to plan this thing. Superman wasnt going to just wait around and try and coordinate with a woman he just met for the first time and risk Doomsday escaping

> WW chopping Doomsday's hand off?

Litearlly nothing wrong with this. She got the right angle/momentum and got the equivalent of a critical hit on Doomsday.

>Superman stood still and let The Mad Hatter create Doomsday.

How the hell was he supposed to know that his blood would create a super monster?

> This was basically Superman Lives revived.

There were no giant spiders and Superman flies, so it was nothing like Superman Lives.

I love BvS, but honestly this idea would be better. I myself have thought of that before.

>a Zod Frankenstein has no effect on the movie at all.
>his reasoning for making Doomsday are paper thin and serve no other purpose than him being the designated villain so he has to create conflict with Superman.

It was a back up to kill Superman in case Batman didn't (which he didn't so it was entirely justified). He thought he could control Doomsday out of arrogance, but if he didn't he had kryptonite weapons funded by the us government to take him out.

>Lex in general was a mess of a character with shitty motivation

I'm curious what you think his motivation was.

No one said it was particularly deep, but the other idiots couldnt even seem to grasp that basic reading without being led through it. I don't really see your point. If you want further analysis you could say that Doomsday is the literal embodiement of the monster Luthor/the media tried to make him out to be.

Doomsday is good. Ultimate monster who learns and adapt to fight everything is a nice concept.

Yeah, we could get something as awful as Sucker Punch if he got full control, having more control than any MCU director and even Feige was enough to make his movies shitty as fuck but was not enough to be so bad that is good.

Snyder is an epically bad director.

>having more control than any MCU director and even Feige
Don't bullshit.

>epically

go back to ledddit

That is actually where I thought they were going with the whole "Black Zero" code name thing.

Black Zero = B Zero = Bizarro

Doomsday feels like an executive decision, because Bizarro would fit thematically and symbolically even better.

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>Luthor has a cave troll

>Have Kryptonite weapons
>Try to frame Superman for killing people (with guns) in Africa, then for blowing up a courthouse.
>This is to motivate a retired vigilante into killing Superman
>To do this, you "let him" steal some of your Kryptonite
>So Superman doesn't just ignore the vigilante, kidnap his mom and tell him to kill the Batman
>If it doesn't work, you have your uncontrollable Frankenzod
>Which, if he wins, you'll have to kill with your Kryptonite weapons

or maybe you could just... kill him with the Kryptonite weapons. Lure him to Africa like the original frame job and just shoot him with green bullets.

Manlet Doomsday w boots?

Yeah, but Doomsday in the comics is a genetic abomination product of Kryptonian eugenics. It's an error that became a failsafe and a warning to not mess with what Kryptonians. Doomsday was about hubris and a shameful past.
There''s no "kryptonite weapons" and "green bullets" don't work on superman, in fact, not even the spear works on it's own, fucking retard, bullets are too fast and would shatter on contact with his bioaura and skin, they can't weaken him fast enough. Also, no wonder people say you are a moron if you don't understand BvS, they NEVER try to frame superman for killing people, they claim AFTER superman's intervention local warlords massacred the village. Fucking dumbass.

>It was a back up to kill Superman in case Batman didn't (which he didn't so it was entirely justified). He thought he could control Doomsday out of arrogance, but if he didn't he had kryptonite weapons funded by the us government to take him out.

>There''s no "kryptonite weapons"

Bro

>WW should have cut him up

Welcome to a Justice League/Trinity where this particular bitch is always shown to somehow forget how to do anything so that Batman or Superman can save the day

He didn't, had any. There was no enough Kryptonite to weaponize it.

Batman had enough to make a bunch of gas grenades and a spear. He could have made a bunch of knives or a bullet to use after the gas, but he had to make the Spear of Destiny to kill SuperJesus.

Your movie is fucking stupid, stop trying to justify the nonsense.

>Litearlly nothing wrong with this. She got the right angle/momentum and got the equivalent of a critical hit on Doomsday.
Nothing wrong since even in Suicide squad we see the power of another magical swords. Magic made more sense in BvS than in current dc comics (aka Magic is computer programs)

You can't make obsidian bullets. Stop being dense just becuase you hate a director. The movie is shit, but the reasons you use to hate it are based on your lack of attention and your own stupidity
>Batman had enough to make a bunch of gas grenades and a spear
Batman, not Lex. Also, you have to be retarded to think a knife is a better weapon than a spear.

That's from cw's smallville

BATMAN STOLE THE KRYPTONITE FROM LEX

LEX COULD HAVE MADE ANY WEAPON HE WANTED WITH IT, WITH MILITARY SUPPORT, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE RETIRED VIGILANTE STEALING IT AND MAKING A SPEAR IN HIS BASEMENT

(Zodd and Lex Luthor fusion version)

>"Rawr, Rawr, I am your Doomsday! Ottisburg?! I WILL FIND HIM!"

>LEX COULD HAVE MADE ANY WEAPON HE WANTED WITH IT
Not bullets ;)
WITH MILITARY SUPPORT
Sure, and he didn't had said support so he opted for plan B
>INSTEAD OF HAVING THE RETIRED VIGILANTE STEALING IT AND MAKING A SPEAR IN HIS BASEMENT
Plan B worked, Lex failed understimated Batman's humanity, something pretty in character, but EVERYTHING went according to his plan, he didnt give a shit about kryptonite.
You are literally bitching about nothing

You keep going "can't make bullets". Sure, not purely out of it, but you can make a metal bullet with kryptonite powder inside that will release the metal breaks inside the body. And don't say you can't use bullets on Superman, because the k-gas made him vulnerable to fucking punches and bladed weapons.

Fine forget bullets, just fucking give KGBeast a K-gas grenade or spray or something, and a k-knife, kidnap Lois in Africa, kill Supes. That's all he needed, but no he went with the stupid and convoluted "plan B" because if he doesn't outsmart a dozen people every day, he can't get it up.

>if he doesn't outsmart a dozen people every day, he can't get it up.
That's literally Lex Luthor.

because it was never there... thats the problem with this movie, it leaves to many things to the interpretation of the viewer, so everyone just keep pulling this "symbolisms" out of their asses

bane?

It's really not bad given the time it was released

>hat's all he needed, but no he went with the stupid and convoluted "plan B" because if he doesn't outsmart a dozen people every day, he can't get it up.
We are talking about lex luthor.

SyFy had cool shit like Farscape 20 years ago, making a good Doomsday is nothing to them

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Honestly at that point nigga could just make an OC and not turn him into Doomsday

more pics?
this looks pretty great

>and fully grown Doomsday is better than a young Doomsday
No shit

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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