>NORA DECIDES TO TELL BARRY AND IRIS THE TRUTH ABOUT THAWNE - Team Flash finds out that suburban housewife Vickie Bolen (guest star Catherine Lough Haggquist) is in danger and they race to save her. Upon meeting her, they discover she's a meta-human who is hiding her abilities from her family. Barry (Grant Gustin) encourages Vickie to share her secret with her family, which makes Nora (Jessica Parker Kennedy) realize she needs to come clean with her parents about Thawne (Tom Cavanagh).
Popcorn. Wasn't planning to buy any but the fucking smell got to me at the store.
Luke Cook
salmon fillet and a baked sweet potato.
life is good
Bentley Brooks
Can I get a summary of last week's episode? I was in the hospital when it aired.
Colton Harris
Pizza and mint tea.
Joseph Thomas
Apples, peanut butter, and some crackers.
Meanwhile I’m baking rusks for a ship’s stew for a larp
Levi Robinson
>Barry convinces Cicada to take the cure. >Cicada's adult niece comes from the future and kidnaps him. >She's a meta serial killer like her uncle and even more powerful, with telekinesis and energy blasts.
Barry convinces Cicada to take the cure with the help of the doctor lady. When he's cured the other Cicada Grace from the future shows up, kicks the team's asses, kills the doctor, and takes Cicada Sr. with her.
Anthony Brooks
Hope you're doing alright, user.
Christopher Reed
You okay, bro?
Gavin Ortiz
>Don't speak to me or my uncle ever again
Noah Bennett
Its time
Parker Taylor
I got some thin mints from the girl scouts.
Nolan Parker
THE FLESH
Leo Flores
Yeah, I'm fine, just a sprained knee.
Josiah Flores
I have my Flash hat and my Flash shirt on. I am ready.
Samuel Bell
I wonder what Yea Forums's reaction to the King Shark vs Gorilla Grodd fight was.
Jayden Diaz
Got my chips and cup of cereal. Washing down with some water (because I’m healthy).
>Gee Grace, how come Mom lets you have TWO knives?
Christian Adams
>yfw you get upstaged as an actor in every scene Why is Chris Klein so bad?
Matthew Nguyen
i bet she waits till the end
Cooper Howard
Cecile is so smol.
Wyatt Nguyen
Hey Ralph is back.
Brandon Jackson
Thanks for showing up now Ray, after you were needed.
Blake Davis
The writers cant keep up with long storylines. Cicada wasnt even supposed to be the big bad and they just fucking dropped the meta tech 3 episodes in.
Isaac Rodriguez
This whole season has had father/daughter vibes.
Colton Hughes
Some one screen cap the computer screen with Nora's diary!
Jason Gray
Hey Ralph, been like weeks since you showed up.
Eli Kelly
Because his only acting work came from him being vaguely handsomish.
Owen Gomez
They revealed her motivation at the last second basically - her fiance died in the satellite explosion. It's okay, not everyone has to be secretly Thawne or something lmao. She was a functional character, and they cast old+fat so there'd be no hint at a romantic aspect to their partnership.
Isaac Cruz
>star labs isnt staying destroyed I hate that fucking set
Levi Peterson
I got it user!
Easton Anderson
Time paradox?
Easton Myers
Meta Tech was a neat idea, shame they ditched it.
Jonathan Nelson
>operation shazam
Dylan Ortiz
Oh shit! Cell must of travelled to the past in one of those time machines!
Logan Turner
I REMEMBER THIS PLOT, THE NIECE IS CELL IS DISGUISE
Why isn't she making a bane voice like old busted Cicada?
Anthony Moore
That was such a pointless reference
Brody Moore
Honestly it would have been good. We are getting new writers next season with a new showrunner too so hopefully they are better
Lucas Ortiz
Did he shoot a G.I. Joe laser gun?
Matthew Ortiz
I thought her fiance was killed in Zoom's rampage.
Luis Edwards
Grace killing this dude is much more sexy than it needs to be.
Jackson Wood
>all the streams died sick
Eli Williams
No, that was a Spiderman animated series laser gun.
Jason Smith
>everything could have been solved if they just cure grace. How fucking stupid are they.
Jonathan Hall
No lung damage. I don't think she looks very attractive, but her voice does things for me.
Michael Hill
It's just like how Commie Supergirl never really went anywhere either.
None of these shows seem to have strong enough editorial oversight to actually work continuity. Except maybe Legends sometimes?
Jack Wright
Should I skip the rest of the episode to hookup with a guy from grindr
Thomas Gray
You are going to build a time machine in the future and come back to stream for yourself.
Mason Myers
>How fucking stupid are they. Do you really have to ask?
Zachary Davis
I get them confuse a lot.
Jace Watson
It could have lead into stuff that straddled the libe between magic and science. Like the Hero Dial. Explaining in Universe shit like Alan Scott’s Lantern & Ring or the Core rings in general. Or, even better, Motherbox
Michael Hernandez
Oh, okay. It was something like that.
Also goddamn Cryer as Lex was awesome.
Leo Robinson
Well user, isn't grindr for gay people?
Hudson Russell
Cisco made the CCPD some rayguns to (ineffectually) fight Metas with.
Carson Gomez
Anyone have a good stream. OP's aren't working today
Christian Baker
She didn't consent to that.
Jonathan Sanchez
No they've gotta figure out who it is like it's not obvious
Dominic Bell
kek Joe is getting too old for this shit
Luke Torres
Do they know it's Grace?
Gavin Peterson
feed 2 in the second link seems to be working for me, tentatively
Nolan Morris
user, that's gay.
Isaac Reyes
Black Lightning has fantastic continuity.
Kayden Flores
>Cryer >awesome
Buh?!
Oliver Gutierrez
A guy
Nathan Barnes
That reference is horribly dated, Cisco.
Leo Hughes
They like to pick and choose as well as the episodes are written like 3 weeks before filming. There is no in advance writing past the first 10 episodes. I like to hope
Aiden Walker
But they've got to get consent to take away the insane serial killer's built in murder weapon! Red Daughter seems to finally become relevant next episode. Seems like Lex may have been involved in her creation.
How have those scorch marks not been scrubbed off?
Charles Parker
Her guardian did tho.
Jackson King
>Time travel sucks Took five seasons to finally figure it out.
Aaron Turner
Huh, it wasn’t a meta attack. It was an unstable power side effect
Joshua Baker
>Grace, what's wrong? It's kinda nice that he's still in dad mode even with the future version of her.
Justin Nguyen
He's starting to some like a normal person again
Cameron Jenkins
Why is he still making that batman voice?
Joshua Morgan
Huh, I wonder if this ties into Arrow's bad future.
Parker Phillips
It was at this moment Orlin realize he fucked up
Christopher Jenkins
ah yes, the zero metas plan.
Ayden Ramirez
Hey, Barry quit timetravel like two seasons ago because he realized it was bad news.
Ian Gutierrez
Its like being in constant pain and a duper power fugue effected his psyche?
Tyler Foster
She needs to consent you fool. What if a guardian consents for his daughter to fuck her?
Liam Reed
Because he's acting having bad lungs.
Jaxon Cox
He's Man man
James Carter
Don’t forget Zari’s bad future. With Meta controls
Ayden Gray
What if she takes control of Nora's body and joins forces with herself in the past?
Justin Young
Why not start with yourself bitch
Liam Hughes
Ew charred dark matter residue is gross!
Jose Walker
Is that a sequel to the movie?
Samuel Anderson
It seems ridiculous that a plot point started last season finale is finally becoming important 15 episodes in of the next season. A lot of the CW shows are bad with plots and drop stuff but thats a new low. Most shows use cliffhangers to fucking bridge seasons.
Jayden Martinez
I think thats still legal in like Arkansas.
Charles Williams
Technically yes in that it would chronologically take place after the movie
Eli Johnson
Medically Oriln is responsible for her treatment. They even asked him and he said himself and then her. What the fuck are you about a comatose patient cant give consent
Liam Mitchell
He's bad acting bad lungs.
He is average man.
Carter Gonzalez
Every future is a bad future. I wonder if they'll acknowledge the different "canon" timelines on one of the shows.
Cooper Ross
then barry can fuck nora and grace at the same time.
Noah Carter
user, Arkansas is a 45 minute drive for me, I will go check it out.
Lincoln Roberts
Let girlcada kill this bitch
Juan Sullivan
Bitch you are going to jail for involuntary manslaughter
Elijah Myers
>and who the hell are you? Bitch please
Landon Carter
>Peter Parker'd her
Anthony Reed
>I Peter Parker'ed her You killed her with whiplash?
Ryan Bennett
I Peter Parkered her
Luis James
Is it spiderman reference week in cw land?
Nathan Anderson
They're really doubling down on the Marvel references this week.
Brandon Smith
FUCKING FUCK RALPH!? What are you doing! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
Legion of Three Worlds!
Isaiah Hall
Isn't she a murder suspect why didn't they just arrest her
Dylan Martin
Lol Le epic Marvel references
Luis Powell
>Peter Parkered her >Want her to be a spider girl Oh Ralph.
Angel Cruz
>That over the shoulder camera making Cisco look tiny.
Isaac Williams
Its been two years and her family hasnt caught on.
Justin Wilson
>Woman who killed Grace's parents just some lady with electric fingers who accidentally blew up an ATM.
>nora defending the secret keeper despite her freak out at iris for not telling her she's a speedster honestly
Leo Garcia
The chair is going to turn him into Eobard!
Brody Ortiz
Why could she see through Cicadas eyes?
Robert Harris
That's what I'm super afraid of. This Wells has grown on me.
Ethan Harris
The whole consent bullshit is the most retarded shit ever. Honestly but if i wanna hype in Caitlin's bullshit medical skills. Orlin gave the consent already
Adam Stewart
kek you stupid bitch
Henry Cooper
Who saw that comin- I mean did anyone see that just now?
Ralph needs a Sue to snap him into place. I hope he sticks around for whatever Diet League show eventually replaces Legends.
James Jones
>we have to help mom This isnt a Disney movie, you cant do shit against a serial killer with super powers
Hunter Rivera
This meta is destroying Grace, killed her parents and just wrecked her now.
Brayden Ward
What if Thawne gets CURE’d and becomes next season’s Wells again?
Grayson Allen
What the shit, Nora has Cicada vison now?
The Flash loves two things- Chicken Wings and Soccer. Gustin is so good at playing doofus Barry
Parker Kelly
stream was fucked up, what led sherlock to the wells chair?
Levi Gray
She aint gettin in the Justice League at this rate
Tyler Baker
Just let Grace kill soccer mom, she has it coming.
Xavier Gomez
Suddenly she's fifty years old.
Carson Turner
They know its grace and still dont cure her ass. And why hasnt grace went to her past self?
Josiah Nelson
Holy cow, she's Gambit! Awesome. Residual connection from that mind-meld thing or some shit. I think it was just an explanation for why they can't just ambush him with the cure.
Aiden Myers
Something about being connected when they went to the inside of her mind a while back
Justin Price
Its true, thus show does need a Sue.
Easton Ward
the ghost of harrison wells
Sebastian Evans
I think someone in cwland really likes Spiderman.
Elijah Johnson
>Nora connected to Grace's mind and knew she was coming yet somehow doesn't think the reverse is happening One of those plots I see
Parker Green
She was literally inside her head. They are psychically linked now.
Chase Walker
I'm guess cause they're both from the future?
Cooper Miller
Grace didn't so you can't rape her with your cure Barry.
Ayden Taylor
They should have told her that she killed a couple, she would have actual reason to listen
>we need grace's consent
Xavier Flores
Did she just John Cena it?
Jack Ortiz
Joe sounds so fucking tired of this bullshit.
Caleb Jenkins
Then what the fuck was the point of even suggesting using it on him. I know they bullshitted a "Flash talks down hes enemies" even though he really doesnt.
Jackson Perry
>we need her consent lol
Jayden Rodriguez
"WE NEED GRACE'S CONSENT!"
Jose Morgan
Oh look, a reason why they can’t cure the kid now.
Liam Jenkins
This is the dumbest
HER FUCKING META POWERS ARE THE REASON SHE'S IN A GODDAMN COMA
Leo Phillips
>We need Grace's consent to stop her from turning into a fucking suprevillian Kerrrrrrist
You are forgetting all the times they couldn't stop Hunter Zolomon for reasons.
Parker Green
Because it's the only way to stop him without killing him. And now that I think about it, this was really a setup to explain why they can't cure Grace - it'd be trivial for them to walk in and inject a comatose girl with the cure.
Kevin Morales
Id pay large sums of money to get that asian actress in a tight Silk outfit.
A comatose patient CANT give consent. Thsts why you give power of attorney to a able relative or guardian. Which was Oriln. He gave his consent for the both of them last episode. The writers havent done their research at all. Its the most bullshit excuse the writers have come up with to keep this storyline going.
Ayden Wilson
I can't wait for the anti-monitor to show up and wreck everything.
Does anyone notice how Orlin doesn't sound like a cliche villain trying to impersonate Batman anymore?
Easton Morales
>inb4 Nora confesses everything just before Wells has a chance to out her
Isaiah Smith
If she called me daddy, we would go kill meta scum I guess.
MORE CLOAK AND DAGGER, HELL YEAH.
Jack Morris
Well yeah they fixed that last week.
Eli Cruz
FUCK yes cloak and dagger
I literally cannot wait, the first season was surprisingly great
Xavier Reed
>Brandon Routh plays Earth 2 Superman FUUUUUUUUUUCK
Dylan Smith
Is Cloak and Dagger any good?
Ethan Kelly
Honestly No. I will throw all the facts because this somrtjing i studied in law classes and its pissing me off. A basic google search. And i thought the science was stupid.
Michael Perez
What if Nora confesses with Barry's dick in her mouth, wouldn't that be funny, haha funny?
Leo Hughes
I'd also kinda want Tim Daly.
Luke Smith
I'm scared they're going to not feature any Superman so Supergirl can take center stage like last crossover. I mean, I get it, it's her tv show and there is already a built in fanbase, but come on, when will we ever see any adaption of Crisis ever again?
Chase Price
Glad some Cloak and Dagger fans in the thread, it was surprising good. It always knew how to pick the pace up at the end of the ep to make you real excited for next week's ep.
It had a slow start but it really picked up and was surprising for Freeform.
Joseph James
I actually want Wells to say something first. This is how i see it happening >Wells starts exposing Nora >Iris interrupts him accusing him of investigating Nora again >Nora interrupts and admits she was hiding something >Wells basks in "I told you so" attitude but tells Nora that "that's not all she's hiding" etc >Barry is hurt and probably cries
I take law classes too but fuck you, consent for babies to be held.
Oliver Watson
Christ Almighty that mask is terrible. What the hell were they thinking?
Wyatt Wood
A lot of controlled substances goes a long way
Anthony Cooper
The suit ring is a welcome addition, even if the new suit does still suck.
Elijah Green
That running was bad
Oliver Lee
Maybe if they ask nicely, Tom W will show up with his now grey hair and broader build?
Really, what would be great is if Arrow Earth Supes showed up before crisis played by Hoechlin and did the Superbro T-Shirt n Jeans thing as he’s just starting out. Then during Crisis do the Superman Reborn bit with Supergirl Earth’s Supes. Replace Lois’s actress. Still get baby Jon or Cir.
Also, I kind of want to see Icon in the mix for Crisis, and do the Big Bang after Crisis.
Oliver Kelly
Meta's are a disease, and I am the cure.
Jordan Gomez
I've always wanted to be up against the Flash too.
Holy shit I dropped this show at the start of S4 (but saw the Earth-X episodes), is our boy Eobard really back? How much of a presence has he had and what has he done/implied to have done so far?
Blake Jones
>inb4 they out right hate her now instead of just wanting answers
he put her in prison without her consent! thats racist!
Joseph Myers
Now, does Nora know how to use he a pipeline toilets to escape?
I missed the preview, what was promised?
Levi Morris
HAPPY NOW, BARRY CONSENTED TO IMPRISONING HIS FUTURE ADULT DAUGHTER IN HIS ILLEGAL JAIL!
Nolan Walker
Fuck off, Eobard's pulled enough shit that that's the reasonable thing to do.
Nolan Perry
>Needs consent to cure metas >Doesn't need anyone's permission to throw anyone they feel like I'm their confined secret prison
Nathaniel Ortiz
The dude who killed her grandmother
Robert Morales
Ok so who else is gonna download the so to screen cap all the moments Nora diary was on screen?
Jason Hall
It is one thing to lie. I mean, who hasn't done that on Team Flash?. But to work with Thawne? That's pipeline-worthy, even banishment worthy. Barry was right
Ian Parker
It is supposed to be Barry going to the future but it looks like there are glimpses of Nora's past. As well as a "Run Nora Run"
Xavier Phillips
They need the repeated long breaks for various reasons:
- They’re still rushing out the plot/scripts and have been pretty much winging it the entire season - To give audience a much-needed break from the excessive idiocy
Thomas Thompson
>anymore >gee wilikers I wonder how my daughter time traveled without attracting any wraiths >isnt that convenient
Adam Sanders
And she lesrned also killed Cisco. But she still continued to work with. Fuck Nora. I hope the real Dawn with Donovan comes in.
Jordan Thompson
Because obviously nobody in her family told her what she needed to know. By the time she knew better, it was always too late.
David White
Thawne bribed the time wraiths with sex favours.
Sebastian Martin
Hes still on fucking meta human death row. Plus his suit is in the Flash Museum.
Connor Anderson
inb4 thawn jumps in front of cicada's dagger to save nora because he "really cared" thus further becoming an enigma in barry's mind and then it turns out that it's a remnant or some shit and that's how he gets out of prison
Charles Walker
Red Sun already happened in cwverse you sillygoose
Jonathan Turner
>last minute of season finale >two twins pop through a time portal >"Don't listen to that imposter!" >cut to black
Ryan Walker
We still havent heard the "were gonna need more diapers line" if the writers havent forgotten. But Iris might be pregnant by the end of the season.
Either after the Earth X crossover or at some unknown point in the future something happens to Thawne that leaves him halfway between his actual body and Wells, hence the face, but also the dirty blonde hair and different eye color
Julian Powell
Caitlin's father is alive, an evil meta and loose somewhere. Cisco appropriated his bunker to develop a meta-human "cure" that strips anyone of their awesome superpowers, but he swore the whole team not to apply it to anyone unless the other party says "Yes, take these awesome powers from me, please".
Adrian Cox
Oh shit, that makes sense. It's like how Jor-El has Pa Kent's voice actor in For the Man Who Has Everything. Remember, we don't know what that clock is counting down to yet.
Kevin Powell
Not if you're one of the types who says >i use comics to escape the real world, not deal with it! no. But I think Season 4 has had the best usage of real-world issues in a fictionalized form, essentially taking on the alt-right as "Agents of Liberty" i.e. alien-haters. They've done it in a way that works even if you know nothing about America, but if you do, that just makes it more interesting. And yes, they do tackle Antifa aka the "alt-left" via Manchester Black and the Elite. They racebended him, but he's still british and most people aren't complaining because the actor's great in the role.
Jace Peterson
My only complaint about Manchester is that they didn't make him psychic, so the writers needed to keep coming up with excuses for how he could fight J'onn and Kara. That said, this treatment is right up there with Superman vs. the Elite, only with the added dash of relevance that you alluded to.
Parker Cook
That'd be OP for this show though. They can' even do J'onn right. Half the time they halfass an explanation as to why he can't use read minds, the other half he just forgets about them.
Sherloque is meh imo, crappy accent and he feels like a slightly different take on H.R mixed with some of the Council of Wells guys, should've been more fresh than that.
Better yet, it could've been a supposed new Wells who turns out to be Thawne again. Or a Johnny Quick speedster Wells.
Luis White
KEK now you are onto something, grace is perfect cicada from an alternative future.
Juan Perez
No its not pipeline worthy. Barry just reacted like the bitch he is. The whole scene was trash since sherloque outed her before she was ready to talk.
Noah Howard
heh
Connor Morgan
March Madness or something apparently.
Bentley Phillips
maybe, just maybe, that's why she became the new cicada in the future, because her uncle was killed by a metahuman too.
Jack Hill
Children are allowed to give consent to hormone therapy and reassignment surgery.
Matthew Collins
That doesn't sound right
Isaiah Ross
>Why don't you just put the whole WORLD in the pipeline?
Matthew Campbell
She was, she’s his niece in the coma from the future
Robert Nelson
We speak about fuckin Thawne here, he is Satan in flesh.
Anthony Sullivan
Funny, I noticed no one caught on to the mention that a woman in a hood was present at her parent's murder as well...
Jaxon Ward
>It seems ridiculous that a plot point started last season finale is finally becoming important 15 episodes in of the next season
Not really, they've been building it bit by bit, with the military grooming her to be a super weapon. Makes sense she isn't automatically the big main focus and for what's it's worth, they actually bothered to actively show her whenever something like the Kryptonite shit happened that would obviously effect her as well.