I only remember that Lois is first to call him "Superman", he didn't call that himelf, nor did other people he met/fought, until reoccuring (A)Lex(ei) Luthor since AC 23.
So what's explanation of "S" in actual original comics by Siegel and Shuster?
Ethan Carter
Luke Reed
They explained his powers
Henry Bailey
twice, there is even original depiction of Krypton SOCIETY
by "them" I mean Siegel and Shuster
Jacob Cruz
also unlike Silver Age Krypton it didn't had trunks.
So I wonder what's is reasoning behind Supes' costume in general.
Or they just stole it from Phantom or something? Without explanation
Jonathan Morgan
All true DC fans know that "S" as House of El sign came from Donner movie, at least it is what influenced Mark Waid's Birthright, new52 and Zack Snyder's versions
In Silver Age there were some signs, but not in the form of English-esque letters
In one non-canon story where good Brainiac saves some Kryptonians and landing on Earth Kal El's brother took Superman mantle, and Kal El himself took Hyperman mantle. with S and H diamond retrospectively
So there is Silver Age explanation for trunks and for S in diamond
However that's Silver Age explanation by (as Fandom wiki says) Cary Bates, not by Jerry Siegel or Joe Shuster
Colton Wood
>that Lois is first
yeah, ofc it was "Chief" first, sorry for that misinfrom.
Here is closest to this triangle BEFORE "chief" of Daily Star calls Clark "Superman"
Xavier Sullivan
all me so far,ha
Lucas Hall
>On my world, it stands for Sneed
Jeremiah Young
BASED sneed poster blessed MY thread
Landon Wilson
also context : screenshot is from Superman War of the Worlds, comic book-crossover of classic War of the Worlds (never saw it, only Tom Cruise version) and early early first appearance Golden Age Superman (with child origin from Superman #1), as he comes to the Daily Star for job, where Perry White and other guy assign him on to investigate crash, Lois Lane comes with him cause muh "you give a job to some guy that literally walked in your door, yet neglet ME over years", where upon arrival shit went South as they say, and while portecting Lois this Clark revealed himself in the suit.
Threre is also Golden Age red head Lex who becomes bald after martians (War of the World's aliens) shoot him with laser.
It follows pretty well the early Golden Age trope, Supes here can't fly and "nothing less than bursting sheel can penetrate his skin", but that moment had me wondering
Leo Rodriguez
IIRC, it didn't have one. It was just a design element that was glanced over and never elaborated on in the original creator's run.
William Nguyen
>IIRC
any link to the book or comic book or somthing?
Cameron Brooks
bump with my favorite action (hi Grant) suit
Jaxon Lee
bless my thread, Curt bog
Carter Adams
>superman's brother impersonates clark forever
>clark starts a new life
>superman's brother doesnt just go to canada instead
clark mustve just been real tired of lois
Christopher Bell
No, he never met her there.
All he knows in this story is 20-something years of Kryptonian Kryptonopolis' SOCIETY while they were shrunken by Brainiac on the way to the new planet
Christopher Kelly
bump
Juan Lopez
man I feel actually pissed at how little Swan needed to make his cartooning feel very natural, I'm not completely familiar with the printing process but even getting something like that hair on the third panel or that hand on the second one to look good on a comic book must have been quite a task, imagine drawning it.
Colton Lee
The other guy is George Taylor, who was the editor of the Daily Star in the early issues of Action Comics and Superman. Roy Thomas wrote this, and he's a BIG Golden Age fan, so I think he did his homework on this.
Nathaniel Myers
thanks fro contribution
Yeah, he really did.
I know think that he "compromised" with pure Golden Ageness and included Perry, Jimmy (who was really introduced in radio show first), as well as "S" explanation, borrowed from Donner.
My question still stands tho.
Gavin Cruz
I think this is probably the earliest comic where they tried to explain why they used the symbol, but the problem is this is from 1960, and would've only applied to the Earth-One Superman.
I haven't found any other comics where they tried to explain the symbol before this, yet.
Aaron Gomez
>I know think that he "compromised" with pure Golden Ageness and included Perry, Jimmy (who was really introduced in radio show first), as well as "S" explanation, borrowed from Donner.
He didn't really compromise it.
I think it's mainly because there wasn't an explanation for the "S" during the original 1930's, 1940's comics. Thomas didn't even add in an explanation in the Secret Origins story he did that summed up the origin and first adventure (from Action Comics #1 and part of Superman #1) that Superman had.
Jimmy was introduced in the radio show, but a Mr. and Mrs. Superman story from Superman Family retroactively made a unnamed copy boy in Action Comics #6 his "first appearance", so Thomas might've gone with that. Perry White's first appearance in 1940 was as editor-in-chief (without explanation about what happened to Taylor), but that doesn't mean he wasn't at the Daily Star before that, he'd could be working there in order to get the editor-in-chief job.
Sebastian Hall
Also if you read the original Action Comics #1 story combined with the new additional material added to it from Superman #1, you'll see that the Martian landing is what alters the story, it's implied that George Taylor called in Perry White to cover the meteor landing, that's why he's there in the office in the Elseworlds story, and not in the original. Also notice that because Clark's called away with Lois, he can't go save that guy from being lynched.
Brody Gonzalez
Nathan Fisher
In the Action Comics #1 portion, it's implied people were starting to call him Superman, though they kind of left it open about whether or not he had some adventures right before this.
Liam Ross
I think people eventually decided that the story in Superman #1/Action Comics #1 was Superman's first adventure so Roy Thomas' retelling of the origin says witnesses to Superman fighting off the lynch mob were calling him "Superman".
Joshua Watson
Who first put forward the idea that the actual Kryptonian symbol is the negative space (the yellow parts here), and the fact that it happens to look like an S is pure coincidence?
Robert Phillips
Did that happen?
Leo Nguyen
He doesn't impersonate him, he was chosen to become Superman by Jor-El because he won the challenges. Kal-El manages to get himself out of the bottle when he saw his brother was in danger of being killed, but then can't get himself shrunk back for the bottle. So the brothers figure a solution by having Kal-El hanging around in Canada.
Ayden Jackson
This is so cheesy and yet beautiful