Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?

Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?

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No

No

The ghost of TokyoPop is laughing.

we're getting a retelling of Homestuck

I've heard good things about DramaCom, but never read it. I've read her other work, Night School, and that was good shit.

Devil's Candy

Reading book margins is hardly a retelling and any attempt to imply otherwise would be laughable to me

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Spotted the newfags.

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I hope their contracts are better. Becky Cloonan and tons of artists got fucked by Tokyopop who have thoze rights forever.
Remember when Tokoopop was selling "manga ringtones"?
Naw. They will never be as bad as Tokyopop.
Dramacon was good even if a bit inside jokey. Theh again, I guess so is stuff like Genshiken.

You can't show that in a Christian manga.

Radiant

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I'm honestly thinking about getting the hardcover collection after the stroytime that included such things as:
>car crashes
>racism
>bare knuckle brawls in the hotel halls
>drunken rape attempts
>multiple pages explaining the concept of hentai
And so much more.

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It would be cool if something unique and original like King City came out of this, hopefully it won't just be a bunch of bad wannabe manga

Freaks Squeele was pretty good.

>a bunch of bad wannabe manga
But user, that's what I feed off of.
I have to spend hours digging through DA to find bad web trash, and now they are going to mass produce it.

Also, I have a soft spot for western art that imitates the east.

Yes, but actually no. Yes in the sense that they are good “manga”, but no in the sense that most of everything really isn’t good.

I guess that's true, maybe we will get something really christian

Lastman

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Tbh I know “manga inspired comics” doesn’t incite much hope but it’ll be a neat experiment and a change of pace from the usual capeshit and Image circlejerk.

Odd no one mentioned Empowered here. Well, I guess you shouldn't if emphasis is on "good" But it's something.

Then there are several Wakfu tie-ins which are ok, the art is good, the stories are inoffensive, can be fun for fans.

And then there are World of Warcraft manga. They aren't anything special and just varies from average to so mediocre it's criminal. I think Sunwell Trilogy has nice art at least? Strictly speaking, it is the definition of toilet read.

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Lastman is one of the ugliest most grotesque looking comics I've read
Love it with all my heart but god it's ugg

>they're gonna use this to try and revive homestuck again
please fuckin don't

Devil's Candy is pretty good.

kinda?

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Only good oel manga artist desu

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I'd put money on Devil's Candy getting an English print release through this.

This. Big tiddy princess

Funny you should mention Devil's Candy given that the artist got her break via Tokyopop's Rising Stars of Manga. While I'd love to see Devil's Candy get a wider release there are plenty of reasons to be cautious given that there still isn't much info on how Viz will handle intellectual property rights. For all we know it could end up a repeat of Tokyopop's death spiral.

I think people are more attentive now to contracts and TOS changes so there's less room for fuckery but I wouldn't put it past any big business to try.

gonna guess it'll be SJW shit

I grew up on Warren. I guess he was my generation's weeb before that was the term. Magical Drama Queen Roxy and all that.

Hell. What generation of "Amerimanga" are we on? Even Frank Miller was a weeb influenced by Japanese comics.

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Amerimanga or whatever you wanna call weeb shit in US published books is older than most realize. Fucking kids today think they invented the wheel.

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put your grasses on

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Name?

I wouldn't be surprised actually, they do have the rights to it

This is only slightly less idiotic than Crunchyroll doing the same thing, because at least Viz didn't promise they'd use their money to pay Japanese manga artists.

Do people still read/collect paper manga books? I remember there being an english Shonen Jump in stores but that eventually stopped.
Devil’s Candy would benefit more from an animated web series.

Priscilla Hamby/Rem

>Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?

Just one.

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>good
Art yes.
Writing, nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

thats not my cup of tea but this artist does know well how manga works in black and white. her way of inking is almost completely the same as japanese manga, manga by nature doesnt need colours.

Radiant is made by a French guy. France isn't in the west.

>France isn't in the west.

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If anything the Homestuck Epilogue/Post-Canon shit Hussie's been talking about will be part of it, we're already getting the original comic in hardback form with commentary, expecting an announcement on 4/13 for the 10th anniversary

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user is correct. The three major spheres of comics are:

>Western (US and UK i.e. in english)
>Euro (mostly franco-belgian)
>Manga (japan plus korean manhwa copycats)

Link to the storytime?

Probably, but those creators are not going to be the ones that get hired.
They'd have to go into the ghetto and get a bunch of unknown niggas that love dbz but instead they'll go get "established" names like kate leth or Bryan Lee O'Malley.

I don’t get it. The west has hundreds of different styles. Why try to copy manga? Leave that stuff to the Japanese.

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Third result.

superhero comics /close this

Outlaw Players is pretty fun

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Dreamland is nice too, if you can get over the fact that one of the characters is a Zoro clone.
Huge Faily Fail and Wan Piss influences, except the MC actually has a GF and gets to fuck her.

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>Dark Souls
>Bloodborne
>Metal Gear
>the entire collection of Noriyoshi Ohrai works
>”HEH! Leave that stuff to westerners!”
Have I made a point?

Will Hussie ever do anything new again?

Zot! always felt like it had some manga influence.

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also Dreamland

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But Radiant is trash

I don’t think Avatar would have been as big as it is today if it didn’t have anime inspiration

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>Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?
Theyre all porn

I don`t know that comic, but the page you're showing is the opposite of a manga. Flows like shit, terrible scribble artstyle, no emphasis on motion, not only coloring, but terrible coloring choices AND most egregiously, bad use of screentones.

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I vaguely recall a comic about a young hoodrat black kid who is 200% weeb, but only at his LCS. He hides his power level normally because he lives in a US ghetto, but hes obsessed with a pokemon clone show. His LCS has the rich white kid who can buy all the anime merch and theres some contest where the winner gets to go to grorious nippon.

In japan theres an idol girl whose actually turbo bitch that he meets. Overall i think the comic was a very meta commentary on fandom and the media.

Cant recall the name of it.

Adam Warren's stuff maybe but most people who make it think that "manga style" means a certain style of art and watching a couple of episodes of Sailor Moon or if they're really itching for that "deep cut" then actually reading instead of just watching BnHA or whatever other shonenshit.

I think it's a stretch to call it "manga-style" and to call it "good" but I liked Tokyopop's I Luv Halloween back in the day. Basically the missing link between Zim and Squeee/JTHM

>manga-inspired creators

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Be honest: will you try to submit something once they have online submissions?

I was just about to ask this. But to answer, yeah. I don’t really see manga as a majority influence on my art or story, but my drawing looks cute enough to be considered “manga inspired” so why the hell not submit. You have more of a chance than the Oni Press submission shitshow from a few years ago

Sadly I have stopped drawing long ago, but I am writing. Essentially i've written all my manga ideas into books.

Find an artist, especially if you've already got it all complete and shit why not? One of my friends who draws has been wanting to do something for a long time so eh, can't hurt. I've got ideas and most of them I think are solid enough, it's just the actual mechanics of scriptwriting for a comic and trying to find the right format for doing it which is tripping me up because I can never really hone in on something that feels right.

I think the "graphic novel" thing is the only deal that's throwing me off too because there's certain ways I'd want it released and all at once in a "graphic novel" (or tank) isn't really it. Nobody's going to really buy OEL stuff sight unseen when you're paying $10+ for it, manga fans want Japanese and western comic fans will just go "anime shit" and skip it. You have to give the prospective reader a way to get into it first and doing interviews with industry media isn't going to do it.

maybe like TKO Studios method?

Honestly the way I would do it is... manga style. I don't find webcomic release schedules any better and the floppy (sadly) is on the way out. So I'd do chapters, have them released for free and then the collected edition/tank is what's paid for maybe with some bonus material (omake, lore stuff, commentary, design stuff, pin-ups, whatever) to give a little bit more encouragement for buying it. Have an online reader or even, if you're doing stuff very clearly manga inspired, see if a site like Mangadex will let you upload your stuff since I know there is some western work on there.

People read shit like BnHA or OPM for free and still buy the hell out of tanks as well so I don't think it's a ludicrous idea. Basically the whole try before you buy method.

Why are black otaku so much more based than their white and even asian american equivalents?

Bc east-west cultural exchanges have resulted in some really fucking interesting art for a long time.

>Oni Press submission shitshow from a few years ago
Haven't heard of this. Mind giving a link to archive or rundown?

>Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?
The fact that pic related had not been posted ITT yet really says something about Yea Forums.

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If I remember right they basically limited you on what you could submit (nothing long form, no capes, no genre fiction like noir, war, etc.) and basically outright said they were giving priority to non-white, non-male LGBT people.

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youtube.com/watch?v=laFCqCCEGTc

>merryweather
>good
These webcomics are some of the most piss-boring stuff I've seen, it's literally all knock-offs of already overdone anime tropes. I wish the artists actually had a good script to work off of.

I think I'll give it a go. I already have a manga-ish webcomic running with a decent readership, so I hope that could help my chances. I have comic ideas I want to try getting published, so I might hit them with one of those.

It's already got an anime, but it is made by a French weeb

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Antarctic press was so good in the 90's! Then Marvel with AOA and DC with Impulse n stuff, they kinda killed it for me. The trend was dead by that time. I feel like there's almost no market for this stuff anymore. Everyone reads real manga online now. How can knock off artists compete?

>unholy love child of zorro and master roshi

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How is it? I hear contrasting things about the anime.

The anime decided to put filler 4 episodes in because it was trying to stretch out 13 episodes into 21.

The comic has a poor 1st chapter, a mediocre 1st volume and a slow ramp up to being good by chapter 20/end of volume 4. Been good since.
Next volume comes out in July.

I should have said volume 3 not 4

Yeah, Oni Press pissed whatever success they had with Scott Pilgrim right down their legs.

Hopefully Viz can bring some of that success back. We do need a publisher that's willing to take risks on original GNs again.

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>merryweather
>good

MW doesnt even need Viz. He's making more off of Patreon

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this dude is nice

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>Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?
Most of the better western manga artists are drawing ecchi and hentai.

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>They will never be as bad as Tokyopop.
>Making manga in this social climate

You're right..........they'll be worse

Devil's candy
Kill six billion demons
Empowered

Studio Cutepet used to do comics for Tokyopop a long time ago

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i hope it's a long apology

>the art is good, the stories are inoffensive, can be fun for fans.
>stories are inoffensive
>manga

Viz is dead

>no genre
That's not right, one of the comics to come out of that was a fantasy cooking comic, IIRC.

Normies. All I see are normies.

Except you, you're cool.

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go back to fucking trannies

True, but in the context of Yea Forums and Yea Forums France would be lumped into west.

The figures look sloppy (in a bad way) and there's absolutely nothing dynamic about that action. Asebi and Adventurers of Sky World has kind of become my go to of actual well drawn action (I probably laid the pages out retarded but whatever).

Well one of the judges or people making the decision also said they liked fantasy so I'm sure they were willing to bend or ignore their own rules if stuff appealed to them personally.

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Library user here.
We just purged Ninja High School from our system last week because no one checked it out in over 4 years. Just shipped it off to be recycled and/or resold today along with what was left of our Ranma collection.

Was it any good?

I know this is cheating, but we all know this book was trying to be a manga.

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Out of the six comics to come out of that, only one was close to regular fiction. The rest were genre. Genre as a whole was not banned, what was considered "oversaturated" in 2015 was, and it specifically called out just capes, hard-boiled, supernatural noir, vampires, and zombies (most likely because the Sixth Gun was nearly all of those and their pre-Scott Pilgrim flagship to boot).

There was clearly a bias towards lighter works that could have been better communicated (I don't regret pitching an A24 style werewolf mini before A24 style became a thing but in hindsight, whoops!), but let's not engage in hyperbole.

I feel bad for McKeever. He did some good stuff at Marvel and became known for well-written teen characters so he's poached by DC for Teen Titans... and produces one of the shittiest runs ever largely due to the fact he was allowed to do little more than write what editorial told him (and at times they'd rewrite his issues wholesale) and had to be talked out of quitting by Wolfman. This ruined his name, he want back to Marvel and did some low level teen stuff (Nomad was great though) but Young Allies failed and he hasn't written anything since Fear Itself: Youth in Revolt.

I'm honestly surprised no one has mentioned "Gold Diggers." Say what you want about the story, the art's pretty good and Fred know his way around drawing sexy gals (and guys). It's also based that he put out the first 200 or so chapters to read for free, though I've only just gotten into it.

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This world isn't fair

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I like eurocomics but those ones looks like shit.

I loved Nomad and all the teen stuff he did around that era. What's worse is that McKeever is a really nice dude and seems to really know the industry inside and out.

It looks like he's been doing a book with Image for a while though. I haven't read it, hope it's getting some love though.

King City is nothing like manga, it was just published by a manga publisher

Needs more Hitomi

As much as I'd be keen on a Devil's Candy book, I wonder why it never got printed or made into a series earlier

>Fear Itself: Youth in Revolt
That was a solid 9/10 book that broght a lot of resolution to some of the lingering plots from The Initiative.

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One thing Viz could do to really attract people, attention and do something really unique if at all possible: since Viz is owned by Shueisha and Shogakukan they should see if there's any that this can be used as a path for the Japanese publishers, if they show interest, to actually get published in Japan as well. Fuck Viz publishes Radiant so use that as a carrot.

It might even be a good idea for a contest that those publishers run or something.

I just don't like what it did with Thor Girl. But that's also one of those decisions that reeks of editorial, probably Brevoort not liking that there was a Thor Girl to begin with (probably why Rikki was also killed off).

Can't wait for the shameless clones of manga we have already seen before.

They kind of did this already. The Devil's Candy artist did a story that was published in Shonen Jump in America and Japan. It was just a one shot though.

>Thor Girl
Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

I mostly remember it for the Hardball stuff since he never got a real conclusion to his story.

Just like how a lot of manga is already clones of other manga?

I still enjoy Golddiggers when I read it.

Yeah, but Japan is usually more disingenuous than the west.

Okay, now you have my full attention.

The implications of something like this are significantly larger than you think. Let's say some of this gets published in Japan, it's possible that one or two of the more popular ones could get picked up to become an anime because of the nature of these comics. Bigger yet, Viz could pull a Shonen Jump and try to use it's influence as a publisher to crate a bridge that would lead to the biggest east/west crossover ever seen.

This is all just theory and highly unlikely, but it is a real possibility.

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Devil's Candy has a print release, but only in French
twitter.com/tsulala/status/1053329792102215680
>WOW So UH.. HEY! Big News!!
DEVIL'S CANDY VOL. 1 IS OUT IN FRANCE!!!!
For now it's in french ONLY but stay tuned for the English release which will be a BIG DEAL and SOON!!
But yeah, if you live in France, check your books stores and stuff!

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Is the writing bland or is it Obama Hussein novel bad?

Clones are fine as long as you're doing it competently and telling the story well. Take Asebi for instance. If you've played any PSX era JRPGs, shit like Mega Man Legends or watched any Y2K era adventure anime you can see the plot twists coming from a mile away. But it's all executed and told so flawlessly with a great cast that it doesn't matter.

Shit, Viz could probably leverage it into getting adaptations (OEL anime as it were), put it on Netflix or something with some Jap studio working on it and why not? I think there's potential for OEL stuff if it's one right and not just thinking people will read it because it's got "manga style art" which doesn't mean shit given how varied manga art is.

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French people still love physical media but Americunts dont. They only pirate them or are obsessed with garbage like patreon

is it MBQ by the guy that created the spic ghost rider

>Originals coming 2020

If this ends up being a bunch of progressive sjw-manga it will be shit. Unfortunately it will have to be edgelord as fuck to get any attention and sales

Because they know they're gonna get shit on regardless so they might as well go down doing some cool shit.

Usagi Yojimbo

That pic reminds me of the Mask.

>that pic
Do I even want to know?

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Who twisted her in half? Is she okay?

I wish people still wanted physical media in th US. I still buy physical manga, video games, etc. myself.

It took me 3 minuets to realize that was May,

Yes but they're things you've never heard of that would post directly to manga sites provably.

>Devil’s Candy is an english comic
>first release is french only
what?

The dude who draws this also draws explicit /ss/ and actually sells it. The French are mad lads I’ll tell ya.

Sinfest used to me good, but this is the webcomic.

It's a Hiveworks comics and the co-CEO of Hiveworks is a French-Canadian who looks down on the UK/American publishing industry and naturally has more connections in the Quebecois/Franco-Belgian markets.

>Are there any good manga-style comics from the west?
Plenty of decent artists but no good writers

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