Dangling plotlines that have never been resolved

Reading X-Men Epic Collection V3 (the Neal Adams run) and I have to ask, what the fuck was up with Roy Thomas retconning the Magneto from the short Arnold Drake run as a robot?

Did they ever explain the deal with that? Did Magneto create the robot himself to recruit Polaris while trying to conquer the Savage Land? Or someone else? Was it something Roy Thomas was setting up that he never got to resolve due to the book being canceled? Or was it resolved elsewhere, like in one of the stories that ran when the book was canceled and the X-Men were guest stars in other books?

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The Magneto robot was never explained in an actual comic, per say.

When Mark Gruenwald was putting together the second Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, Gruenwald decided to offer an explanation for Roy's retcon:

Machinesmith (the silver robot from Nick Spencer's Ant Man run) was behind the robot Magneto. He created the robot Magneto and recruited Mesmero because Machinesmith wanted to use Lorna as a pawn for a plot to take over the world as Magneto's daughter.

Also, Gruenwald claimed that all of the mutants that served Mesmero were also robots and that Mesmero and Lorna were the only actual real life people involved in Machinesmth's scheme.

It's never been mentioned outright in any comic, but at least it has been given a resolution. Unlike another dangler from that run (the mystery mutant who appeared off-panel who appeared on scanners and distracting the Sentinels so the X-Men could get into their lair).

Another dangling plotline: War of the Worlds. Bendis and Brubaker kept foreshadowing Martians invading the Earth at some point in the future. And Bendis brought Kilraven into the present as part of the build up of the story. Never happened even though Bendis kept pushing it until he finally left Marvel with one of his last stories on X-Men having his time travel character briefly being trapped in the future and seeing the Martian Tripods.

You know we can see you're samefagging, right?

This crazy edgelord galavanting around in a stolen stealth helicarrier with the Zodiac Key and somehow orchestrated the Vengeance story arc then never appeared again because Joe Casey stopped regularly writing for Marvel afterwards.

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The shit with Chase getting run over by a car after seeing Gert? at the end of Runaways last cancellation before the new volume.

Rowell's been good about resolving shit and keeping everything canon (I mean for fuck's sake, she brought back Klara for closure), so maybe she'll get to it, but that one's bothered me for years.

Ultimate Universe had a ton of those

Externals, joeha Loeb killed it.

Was resolved in a fashion: the prophecy was about Sunspot all along not Cannonball (see Bobby's role in reuniting the Avengers and Illuminati after Original Sin).

Also, the final Cable run (with Mallin as artist) brought back Gideon and the Externals, though it was so Gideon could kill them all again, save for Selene and the guy with the bone spikes.

What Vengeance storyline?

The killer croc story that JHW III was writing about metahumans living in the sewers of gotham every issue in the end of the new 52's Batwoman book.
He dropped the book because DC didnt want him to make Batwoman marry and then no one ever finished the killer croc story

how did noh varr get out of prison from the end of his mini?

6 issue series from 2010 that was overall pretty shit with the Young Avengers fighting the Young Masters who went around being aggro assholes to prove they were better than the old guard villains doing shit like a murderous rampage in the streets of Latveria (as per the image everyone but egghead died) also the first issue was America Chavez first appearance and the story was overall shit.

>Ultimate Universe had a ton of those

Thanks to Bendis, the Ultimate Universe itself is a dangling plotline.

>how did noh varr get out of prison from the end of his mini?

Skrull not-so-Secret Invasion, I think. Not counting when they let him out as a weapon against the Young Avengers and Runaways.

Originally, Roy Thomas may have been intending for Magneto to be delegating work to a robot, like Doom does, with Mesmero unaware he was working for a robot, then years later, Claremont had Magneto claim to have no knowledge of who Mesmero was, but never followed up on it, which is why Gruenwald used the Handbook to resolve it.

Which was the last one?

It still exists even after Secret Wars. And I think it has its own version of Miles again.

Weapon X vol 2, when Chamber helped Wolverine infiltrate the program and then just disappeared at the end of the storyline right when he was about to attack Neverland. They make it seem like Wolverine was concerned about his well-being and was going to try to find/rescue him, but he wasn’t even so much as mentioned again during the rest of the book.
I know it’s eventually sorta revealed where he went after M-day but the whole thing was still really jarring.

DESU, War of the Worlds is in a similar situation to 2099, it's set "in the future" so it cannot happen "in the present". Also cfr. Busiek's Avengers Forever.

Didn't Miles still remembered his life pre Secret Wars? Also damn Bendis retcons are always shit. Remember when Beyonder was a Inhuman mutant?

That shit sucked, but the Beyonder should've just been left alone after the original Secret Wars. Inhuman mutant sucked, cosmic cube sucked, Hickman's grey alien Beyonders sucked, and so on.

Hickman grey aliens could have worked if he would had put the spotlight on them instead of Doom.

Kinda related but did the new Star Wars trilogy retconned something from the original trilogy besides what the force is?

You're right that the exact Killraven War of the Worlds timeline can't happen in present day Marvel, but Bendis and Brubaker were teasing something involving Martain tripods on Earth, and it never led anywhere.

I remember the last issue of Bendis Civil War was a lot of tease of a lot of possible futures that shouldn't happen because they are in the future or already happened.

The original Beyonder retcons in the 1980s were just an attack on Shooter's legacy that happened soon after he was fired. Bendis and Hickman had different ideas for how to revive the Beyonder as a concept, neither of them followed through on it, and Bendis' idea was stupid anyway.

This was years before Civil War 2, most of it was at the end of Dark Reign and during the Heroic Age, so around 2009-2010.

Also, the original Ultimates still exist out there and are hunting the Maker.

>Didn't Miles still remembered his life pre Secret Wars?
Its really confusing. Everyone in 616 remebers as being native 616, his family(father and now alive mother) and all his supporting characters are also seem to be native to 616, Miles himself doesnt seem to remember 1610 stuff but Peter and Miles still remember Spider-men crossover happening for some reason, which can be explained by Bendis ignoring continuity again.

They arent original Ultimates, they are projections of Maker's memory of them.

If they were projections why did they turned against him?

Because he was such a shitty person even his imaginary friends hate him

>When you are so much of an asshole that even your imaginary friends hate you
Goddamn

Part of Cap's return from time-hopping non-death STRONGLY implied the tripod story was coming.

I still want to know what was being set up early 00s when Sebastian Shaw got a visit from some off-panel supernatural being.

>neither of them followed through on it
But we now know they're powerful beings from Beyond the multiverse, which they tried to destroy.

Incredible Hulk #181 The Royal Canadian Army had a fleet of ships ready to take down the Hulk should Wolverine fail. They've been collecting dust for 45 years

Speaking of Shaw, that whole mess with the Upstarts and the Prize, what the fuck was that supposed to be before all the writer changes

>Everyone in 616 remebers as being native 616
They do? So when do they think he first started being Spider-man?

Frank Miller, near the tail-end of his Daredevil run, revealed through Stick that Matt Murdock's radar-sense wasn't created by exposure to a radioactive isotope, rather that everyone has the ability and just need to train sufficiently to be able to harness it. Stick winds up dying in literally the same issue and that plot thread has thus far never been picked up again.

Lol. This desu senpai.

This isn't a dropped plot line. It's a reveal that's used to explain Stick and his group and help Matt regain his powers. There is no plot "thread" here that is dangling.

Wait for Ewing to write a DD book and he will pic that.

>L3-37 being part of the Millenium Falcon
>Force Ghosts can affect physical objects/control the weather
>The Death Star wasn't built by bugs
>The vent port in DS1 wasn't just an organic design choice

Didn't Peter do a something-search about Miles Morales in his universe and was surprised at the result?

>Revealed and discarded in the same issue
>Every subsequent writer has ignored it and stuck with Daredevil's classic origin
>"It's not dropped tho"

That last one actually makes sense.

Read Spider-men 2.

It made sense the other way too.
It was an unnecessary change.

And was also in Legends so technically not a retcon.

Nothing in your meme arrows argues that it's a dropped plotline.

I'm not an X-Fag but there was this good one-shot with a mutant called Forget-Me Not who's power was that people forgot he existed as soon as he was no longer in their line of sight.
I always liked the idea that some anons floated that most of the small plot holes could be solved by the good ol' Nothing Man.

>Hi, I'm Dropped Plotlines: The Character

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Nightcrawler convinced Scalphunter to become a Catholic for like 8 pages.

Because your idea of what constitutes a dropped plotline is retarded lol.

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>A voice tells Shaw that time has stopped, for they need privacy. A figure enshrouded in darkness hands Shaw a message. Shaw is impressed and tells the man that seeing as he is not dead is a testament to his smooth break of his defenses. He also lauds the manipulation of the time-flow. He will allow the figure to answer one more question before his patience ends. Who is he? The figure tells him to read. Shaw opens the manila envelope and is shocked. You understand, states the mysterious figure. The figure leaves, but not before telling Shaw not to mention this meeting to anyone, for what was done to time can be done to the heart. Time resumes as normal and Kiko tells Shaw that his tea is ready. Shaw does not answer and simply places the letter, which has a gold Egyptian emblem on it, on the table.

We need more characters that can solve plot holes through convoluted means. Not just keeping the status quo, but making it better.

Who stole the F.A.C.A.D.E. armor and killed minor supporting character Lance Bannon? The plot was dropped completely in favor of the developing Clone Saga. Of course Slott the eternal asshole brought it up for a single panel to make a joke about how the killer’s identity was never revealed.

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The most famous ever is Elf With A Gun from Steve Gerber's Defenders run.

It was pretty funny seeing a villain so keen to reveal his identity/cunning exploits, only to be completely ignored by the hero

Ok but it's correct

No it isn't, but here's a free (you).

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Not sure why you're being so autistic about this. A new element being introduced to the character that is not expanded on by a later writer is not an unresolved plot thread. The radar sense plot thread is resolved in the comic, everyone has the potential for the sense as Stick and the Chaste prove so DD can regain it through training and discipline and not another accident. The point was to strip the character down to nothing and make him rebuild himself.

>A new element being introduced to the character that is not expanded on by a later writer is not an unresolved plot thread.
It is when every subsequent writer directly ignores and contradicts it.

What happened to him in N52?

No it really isn't. What do you think the word resolved means?

IIRC, JLI ended with him realizing that the Superman/Wonder Woman pairing would literally end all of existence, and being wiped from history when he tried to stop it happening.

A few years later they wound up breaking up anyway and Booster just showed up again like nothing happened.

Clearly not what you seem to think it is.

>gold Egyptian emblem
>time stop
So it was Kang?

Wasn't it Hydra Cap?

I mean. Time shit be like that sometimes.

the white lantern corps and kyle splitting the white ring

This was long before Hydra cap. I don't think Kobik was even a thing at the time

How? It was an elf with a gun.

Are yoy being retarded on purpose?

It was Shadow King.

Lol all you do his hide

This was near the end of Remender's Cap run, it got dropped after Secret Wars, Spencer took over and did Hydra Cap instead.

Remender was in Marvel until what year? Also, how does he still have a job?

He doesn't work at Marvel anymore afaik.

In the industry I mean? Hell, Memender was like proto Cates.

Mostly doing stuff for Image last I checked. He was apparently one of the first people approached by Marvel to write the Uncanny X-Men relaunch, but he refused.

Wasn't that teasing Sin's Antarctic Nazi attack in Fear Itself?

Remember when most Atlantians had themselves altered to adapt to the surface world and have all become deep cover terrorists ready to kill their human neighbors when Namor gave the command?

he was captured by bleeciac and was sent to the blood moon. while there pre-fp booster got chrono cancer and became the new waverider. then booster went back and tried to save batmans parents and then kill them as a wedding gift

Not really. Why even reference it at all? The story was best left forgotten rather than used as a “lol aren’t I so clever and knowledgeable about spidey’s history” moment. Like it doesn’t even make sense in-universe for the killer to want his identity to be revealed, or to even return after decades of absense.

Do you have a page?
I doubt Ewing will ever cover that since he's still doing clean up for CW2, but you never know.

Loeb added a lot of cliffhangers in Ultimatum(shadow figure taking eye of agamotto from Strange's corpse, project Jocasta, ect.)

In New Mutants #63 the team fights a bunch of clones of the X-Men created to be hosts for the Brood. These clones are cured of their Brood infection and just fuck off out to space to become real heroes using an abandoned alien spaceship

So somewhere out in Marvel cosmic clones of Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Storm, Colossus are fighting evil aliens I guess?

It's ALWAYS Shadow King.
But seriously, why d'you say so?

Don't think so.

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Don't forget about the laundry list of implications that came from there already being a 616 Miles. Like how there's another set of Morales' running around in 616 that haven't come up.

Lets just assume they all were killed by the Annihilation Wave.

There, plot resolved.

That was part of the original plan for the The Twelve/ Apocalypse Vs Cable final showdown that (at the time) Marvel had already put down onto the calander as going to happen at the end of 1999, around the time Cable #75 was going to published.

Shaw and the Hellfire Club were going to be on Apocalypse's side, when the big Cable/Apocalypse fight happened. It's also one of the reasons why a lot of people thought Death from the Astonishing X-Men mini was Sebastian Shaw (IE he became Death as a result of that meeting).

The whole thing, like all of Kelly and Seagle's plans for the X-Men, got tossed out of the window when Bob Harras and Mark Powers, out of the blue one day, decided to abandon EVERYTHING and reunite the pre-Mutant Massacre X-Men line-up, but with Gambit and Marrow as replacements for Cyclops and Rachel Summers for the franchise's 35 anniversary. This was followed by Marvel firing Joe Casey from Cable and replacing him with Rob Liefeld (who wanted Cable's book to be a stand-alone team-up book) and having Erik Larsen write Wolverine, at which point Larsen was told point blank that his run would feature a Skrull impersonating Logan, when they decided to do the Twelve/Cable Vs Apocalypse stuff after all, after nearly backing out of it.

They actually resolved the whole War of the Worlds tease, by turning it into something else.

In the Civil War II epilogue, they revealed the tripods from all of the future scenes were actually HYDRA tripods and that the bad future that had been seeded going all the way back to Captain America Reborn, was of Hydra Cap's new world order.

Selene was running the Upstarts, offering them a vague prize that was "the next best thing to immortality".

It's been rumored that the pay-off would have been that Selene was bullshitting EVERYONE and just having them run around killing off the Hellfire Club leadership so she could rule it herself. Though some have also speculated, it would have tied into the Highlord Ascension/External plotline as well, in that she was grooming the Upstarts to be her personal death squad to one day unleash them upon the other Externals and ultimately Apocaypse, to win the Highlord Ascension prize (control over Earth).

Urban legend is that J Jonah Jameson was supposed to be FACADE.

The story goes, Terry Kavanaugh wrote the story without revealing who FACADE was because he knew editorial would veto the story if they knew his plan. Once editorial read the script and asked him who it was supposed to be, Kavanaugh stated that it was going to be Jonah and they flipped out. It was too late to spike it's release, but they told Kavanaugh they would not let him revisit the plotline and supposedly vetoed letting other writers revisit it, out of fear that they would attempt to make Jonah the killer as originally planned.

booster resurfaced in the Jonah Hex New 52 book, having been time shifted into the past after seeing the kiss. he then time warped again after a team-up with Hex during the big Futures End Month event. In it, Booster found out someone was kidnapping time travelers, which led into Convergence and the reveal that his captor was Telos/Brainiac.

In the two part Booster Convergence mini, New 52 Booster met Rip Hunter and his pre-New 52 self, who was turned into the new Waverider and sent the New 52 version of himself back to the present day.

>The Twelve
I was buying most of the X-books then, and couldn't get copies of Cable #75 or the ish of Wolverine where he came back to classic Adamantium and costume.
It would've made a lot more sense to ally Apocalypse with other mutants rather than Skrulls.

>Force Ghosts can affect physical objects/control the weather
Established in TCW
>The Death Star wasn't built by bugs
What?

Remender quit Marvel during Secret War with his last works being Uncanny Avengers V2 (which lasted five issues) and Rage of Ultron, which was supposed to have set up his plans for Uncanny Avengers V3 post-Secret Wars.

Rumor has it, he quit after a combination of Bendis trying to stop AXIS from happening and refusing to acknowledge it in the pages of the main X-Books, plus being made to retcon Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parentage in UA V2.

Jessica Jones and Luke Cage's baby was replaced by a Skrull at the end of Secret Invasion

The Twelve itself was a clusterfuck due to Rob Liefeld hijacking Cable's book, last minute changing of who the 12 were (as Franklin Richards was declared off limits, as was Havok) plus Harras deciding at the last minute, not to kill off X-Man (who was supposed to be the new host for Apocalypse) and forced all of the X-Books to do a month long event "Ages of Apocalypse" (which entailed of each book doing a one-off alternate earth storyline like "what if Gambit and Storm were founding members of the X-Men", "what if the Spider-Man/Wolverine/Hulk/Ghost Rider FF stayed together", "what if Deathbird hijacked Apocalypse's plan and tried to take over the world", "What if Cable lived in the time of Lawrence of Arabia", etc.) rather than give the story an actual definitive ending.

Peter never actually found Mayday's corpse which means literally any writer could make Mayday and April canon at the drop of a hat assuming OMD didn't wipe the pregnancy which I believe has never been directly addressed, leaving the aforementioned missing baby an open question.

>Who stole the F.A.C.A.D.E. armor and killed minor supporting character Lance Bannon

Whoever it was, they deserved an award for it, Lance was such a cunt

Three Jokers. In fact, since introducing that plot thread they've literally introduced 2 more Jokers, some insane fucker a Joker convinced to dress up as him and the BatJoker.

They literally have a book coming for that, retard. Black Label got fucked over because of Batdick

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>They literally have a book coming for that, retard
I've been hearing that for a long ass time and yet I still see no fucking book.

And until the book gets here, the thread is fucking dangling.

>Three Joker
>They all the same Joker now

There was a floating island full of insane bird Inhumans over New York. It will probably never be brought up again because Marvel likes to pretend Black Bolt is Jesus.

>six months is a long ass time

>May of 2016 was 6 months ago

>They literally have a book coming for that, retard
>I've been hearing that for a long ass time
Three Jokers was announced last year dumbass. The plot was 2016, but we were talking about the book. God it's no wonder time moves so slow for you, you can't even read

People have been claiming it would be explained in a future book since the concept was fucking introduced. I genuinely don't fucking care when the specific book they claim will explain it was announced.

That's naming an issue, not making a declaration about future reveals.

oh my I fucking remember and hate that
I was so confused for the longer time and swore I missed an issue that simply didn't exist

There was a Namor miniseries after Civil War which followed up on that, with the Atlantean terrorist attacks being masterminded by Namor's son, who existed despite Namor being sterile.

>Like it doesn’t even make sense in-universe for the killer to want his identity to be revealed, or to even return after decades of absense.

Hobgoblin set a precedent in Spider-Man comics for a villain to get away with everything, then come back for dumb reasons, get caught and unmasked, somehow manage to get away with everything again, and still come back, so the idea of using FACADE to parody that isn't necessarily bad, but it doesn't work as a one-page gag that most of the readers won't get.

Oh wow, Lance Bannon. I seem to almost remember that name.

Well damn, no wonder people give it so much shit. Huge shame, too, since that thing was seeded over what, a decade? Two?

You just reminded me of when (mythical) Mount Olympus got moved to the coast of New York or something, at the end of Chaos War. There was a follow up in Hulk, since it was the same writer, but after that it was all but forgotten, as far as I know.

Shit. I still have a buncha those issues in my basement and I forgot what a mess it all was.

>set up something across main DC books
>resolve it in a book for your adults only line
Has DC and Johns reached new levels of stupid?

Nah, there was no Miles, everyone else was there though.

that Loveness mini was really good

Not really. Dunno about Johns, but DC has been on this level since the 2000s at least.

Geoff "I'm going to write a sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed stories this medium has ever published and use it as an excuse why I wrote a lot of edgy stories" Johns

Minor correction: you all forgot that Robinson resurrected that plot in the second arc of his Invaders ongoing, bringing the Martians and Killraven back for an overarching story that was AGAIN cut short because of cancellation.
Still, the War of the Worlds actually was touched again to the point one could even say it was "resolved" at least temporarily.

That did in fact come up though, in Spider-Men 2. It makes no sense because the now 616 Miles remembers the cross-universe event while there's another always-616-native Miles Morales who however is much older and has seemingly no connection to the other Miles aside from the name. That mini was baffling on all aspects minus being a cool "Kingpin origins" flashback, which really shouldn't be the only selling point of something called Spider-Men 2.

the op post doesn't count in user count. just sayin'

Let's not forget how Cornell's Wisdom miniseries gave us a timeframe for when the WotW timeline is supposed to spin off from 616 by introducing young Killraven

That's not a dropped plotpoint. It was Bendis going DUN DUN DUUUN to create tension by suggesting the child might've been a Skrull, but it could've just been something green reflecting on the eye. Bendis said he never had any real idea for the possible Skrull baby, he just wanted to create a silly OR WAS IT ending for that arc.

What the fuck? It does you dumdum. When you post a thread the counter says 0/1/1/1 because OP's IP obviously counts as one.

You both got it all wrong, but I'm too lazy to explain it to you

It's not that Bendis ignored continuity. It's that Bendis refused to fucking answer the question to anyone including everyone else at marvel. Since noone knew the answer as a result, writers were forced to avoid the question for years until Gwenpool had to find a way to skip over confirming or denying it.

It actually gets more complicated because 616 Miles Morales was the first person that Peter saved as spider-man or at least present with his mom. So because Bendis introduced his own 616 Miles Morales, there should theoretically have been 3 Miles Morales in 616 at one point.

>there should theoretically have been 3 Miles Morales in 616 at one point.
I hate Marvel

Fucking Bendis that fucker ruins everything.

Crisis on Infinite Jokers when?

They never stated it in-universe but QUESADILLA kept going on in interviews Pete and MJ couldn't possibly think of CONCEIVING unless they were married. So, for all intents and purposes, preggoMJ was wiped out.

This bitch.

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He's talking about 616 Miles being there now

For all intents and purposes interviews/things said during panels are not canon.