>mfw they're making Star bi out of left field
>mfw they haven't fixed the canonical age difference between marco and star in Ransomgram. In fact just made it worse
>mfw Star and Tom didn't break up over the kiss thing, and turns out Tom probably deserves better
>mfw moon doesn't really remember like the episodes states
>mfw "dismantle the patriarchy"
Nefcy sure is pandering hard to the tumblr fags
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That's exactly what she's doing. Star Vs is completely a product of pandering to secondary audiences who don't actually care about the show and just want fuel for their shitty fanfics.
I really liked this show for the first three seasons. I really did. But now season 4 so far is a goddamn trainwreck.
who cares it's last season. the last season always sucks and the finale always has a gay/lesbian kiss.
lol the make jackie and star a thing at the end, forever cucking everyone who shipped anything else for years
The only reason to watch the show is because Star and Marco are absolute trainwrecks. Hell Nefcy could just play it straight at this point and make it a deconstruction of kids shows that want to be elevated by having a larger advancing plot but rely on dumb relationships instead of character development and in fact only make every character shittier.
You need good writing and good world building to do a deconstruction. This is just bad writing.
Yep. And I was really hoping Star would stay in Hekapoos dimension so not only would she be the same age as Marco, but also mature alot more. She's different from season one, but man she's still really childish. Probably good that Eclipsa is queen. Star knows she can't handle the responsibility of being queen.
Bravest warriors did this, so it's more likely than you think.
Give me a rundown of the final episode
Oh shit, new episodes are out?? Link?
Isn't bravest warriors more of an adult show though? It's also pretty random with the way that show is written, so I don't doubt it'd be somewhere in there.
nothing changes except they get their parents back. it was super underwhelming
Bravest Warriors has had the most massive fall in a fandom I've ever seen. It got it worse than Adventure Time did.
I wasn't even aware it finally ended. I know the hiatus and paywalls killed most of it, but I feel there's got to be some other reason
Korra really set the standard for mediocre shows desperately trying to cling to a fandom with bloody nails.
>there's got to be some other reason
Frederator
Why do you people watch this?
It’s in the same group as gravity falls and Steven universe, t*mblr bullshit
This is why I only really enjoy anime these days. The animation might be shite, but the writers aren't going to fuck over their story for the sole purpose of pandering to the fans. Also, the japanese don't like the whole gay thing for the most part (At least the male ones)
Thanks friend!
She likes muscles
>bribe the glasshead that tried to marry his kid (right on pic) to a space worm for reasons (I think they mentioned something but idr)
>ass pull bugthing into a portal to voidthing
>think theres a good chance that they will never return, the space thot (left on pic) stays behind to force feed the portalbug
>it seems that space thot tries to kiss MC as goodbye, but goes for his ex instead, saying it's good luck while MC look confused on how many levels he just got cucked an just takes it.
>adventure!
>they find the parents and save them but oh noe it was all a dream
>they wake up and save them for realsies now.
>also multiple gay(kiss dad on clone) kisses happen or something
>exit
>everyone is gay now.
the end
Not really no, they use fake swearing and it's not any more violent than adventure time, and the themes excluding the gayness in last episode is more child friendly than most adventure time seasons.
Overall I'd say that Adventure time was the more grown up one, at least in terms on tone.
That's just how all cartoons are now, user. Tumblr bullshit. No substance. Lifeless. Soulless. We stick to them because there is nothing else to fill the void for cartoons anymore.
Yeah if there's anything the anime industry does right it's putting any kind of pandering up front so you know exactly what kind of show you're getting.
I liked gravity falls alot (despite the gay shit at the end). Star vs was alright for the first couple seasons, then shit started going downhill. Steven Universe has always been shite. My sole reason for watching was because of the Diamonds.
>Star is bisexual
Can't wait for "Between Friends II".
Aw shit lol
>>mfw "dismantle the patriarchy"
You noticed it just now?! I dropped the show immediately after that cringe episode of "pain or truth".
Why watch this calarts shit when you can watch the superior DCSHG?
More like "Between Gays".
And I really do hate it. All of the college kids who didn't listen to their parents went into the art major, and the few that got somewhere are all flooding the studios now.
Now all we've got is shit animation, gay pandering and terrible writing.
Saw the writing on the wall when River just gave his old smelly blanket to Marco and "knighted" him. From then on I knew this show had no self-respect and bailed.
That show is actually good? I figured it was just the same shit, different story.
You know, I'm all for making a character incidentally bisexual. But there's literally 0 chance we wouldn't have known about it before with a character like Star in a show like Star Vs. Even in S1 she's literally drooling over the thought of dick.
I actually have no problem with LGBT characters. But hey if you're gonna make them one, establish it in the beginning so it's not pandering bullshit. Also don't make their entire character revolve around being gay.
Why watch pony show 2.0 when you can watch teen titans?
>TFW Star said Nipple Demons
>The average cartoon writer nowadays
>It's Frederator's fault
It's Youtube's fault. Frederator did their best to try to adapt to an internet increasingly dominated by a single platform and developed cartoons for Youtube, but as they were doing so, Youtube realized they could make more money if they switched a spam model and promoted content like Pewdiepie.
Because cartoons can be made at the same speeds, Frederator's channel went from being promoted quite a lot to being promoted very little, and gradually as people realized low-effort content any mongoloid could produce was the new top thing, the whole site became saturated with garbage.
Combine this with the big letdown of Bee and Puppycat, and you have a business model that isn't profitable and that shows knows signs it will ever bee profitable. Money to pay for the cartoons evaporated, and Frederator eventually tested out paywalls to see if they could make ends meet that way - but people don't generally want to pay for something if they got it for free previously.
These days, Frederator, as a business, continues to do well on Youtube, but not through serious productions. They just contract with really weird fucking Youtube channels that game the system well, and then they don't put the company name on that content because it's honestly awful.
You can write it to work with them coming out later too. I just can't imagine Star of all characters not fawning over girls like she does boys if she was actually bisexual. No character that horny would wait 4 seasons.
You forgot Marco gushing over drag makeup techniques last week. A little different from what we saw in the first 3 seasons, which was "I have to wear this princess costume to sneak into place/"apologize" to heinous/address the princesses". This was the first time we heard that he likes it other than when right after he was mindbroken from brainwashing and the first time we heard him obsessing over makeup techniques even though Star can zap him into a princess instantly.
>That show is actually good?
Yes
>hurr derr it's pony 2.0
fuck off
>teen titans
overrated af
Tell that to Korra
I don’t watch this shit what happened
Knowing them too well I knew someone was being bi but I was sure it was going to be Marco
ohh yeeahhh....that shit. I swear all cartoons are these days is propoganda for kids yelling "KIDS ITS OK TO BE GAY AND LESBIAN BE LIKE THIS DONT BE STRAIGHT"
>mfw "dismantle the patriarchy"
But there's no patriarchy in Mewni, in fact, it's completely the other way around.
Made star obviously attracted to a buff amazon woman
Man, now I'm just depressed that YouTube basically fucked itself over by letting trash content to breed.
>They don't put their name on that content because it's honestly awful
and then you've got people like Benthelooney, who publicly advertise that they're apart of Frederator.
Korra is total trash and barely anyone talks about the actual show when they could just talk about TLA instead.
At least there was some setup with Stephen Stills
Kids don't watch cartoons though. It's for tumblrites masturbating to the idea that kids are watching gay propaganda
I thought it had hit peak trainwreck in season 3, but now we have season 4.
I find depictions of gays much less annoying in anime. It's more like a casual "This person is the same sex as me but they're cute so I'll kiss them anyway" thing, whereas in the West being gay is the character's whole identity that everything hinges on and it has to be this big statement where they kiss to the point where they save it for a Very Special Episode, and it feels like the writers are yelling "YES... THAT"S RIGHT.. THEY'RE GAY! WANNA MAKE SOMETHING OF IT?"
Reminds me of a girl who kept insisting they feature a female Link in a Zelda game who is the victim of sexism...in an universe where they worship goddesses.
Maybe it's just a fetish for buff women? Has she interacted with that sort much? Or a thing for muscles in general, given her earlier reaction to Adult Marco?
>I was sure it was going to be Marco
You were right, but it's not really worth talking about at point, but he did spend lock away in room with Tom naked and then trying with him way too small/big swimsuits owned by older men. eclipsas husbands and the blue bookgoblings to be more precise.
This. Kids watch PewDiePie videos where he makes fun of all this Tumblr shit.
>Letting trash content breed
They didn't LET it breed. They went out of their damn way to make sure it bred. For a brief while, advertisers were paying good money to show up on the spammiest, most low-effort content every single day.
Why do you think CPM is so low compared to what it used to be? The most popular videos are algorithmic schlock intended to appeal to bots. People may watch it, but it's all in the interest of passing time. Nobody is on the edge of their fucking seat wondering what'll happen in the next Game Grumps.
Yep. At least anime makes gay characters likable and reasonable. Western gays are practically screaming "ITS GAYNESS YOU BETTER LIKE IT AND RESPECT IT"
>MFW youtube is actually a safer place for kids to get entertainment than modern tv
Kids watch Loud House and Spongebob. It really is pretty much just the shows clearly not written for kids (SU, Star Vs) that have shit ratings but an online presence.
Scott Pilgrim has some of the best LGBT writing in Yea Forums since it's just how it is in real life instead of being treated like a plot device or appealing to a fandom.
So they are both going to be bi or is it all speculation based on hints?
Thank you everyone who tuned into the stream last night. It's always fun hanging out with my people.
Also based on the positive responses I've been getting, I'll be hosting an "all star" concert sometime next month for everyone here on my twitch channel. Date is TBA.
I was just about to ask for it. Thank you based user.
>It really is pretty much just the shows clearly not written for kids (SU, Star Vs) that have shit ratings but an online presence.
And those are the shows pushing the LGBTQIA+ angle the most. I think the network allow it because they know kids aren't watching so it's not a big lose, there won't be offended soccer moms because the few kids watching these shows are encourage by their hipster parents or a creepy uncle/aunt.
I guess they never outright said it but I assumed Marco was already confirmed bi.
Loud House has had gay/bi characters since S1 and it's the only cartoon that's possibly more popular with kids than Spongebob. The main difference is TLH doesn't treat it as anything special or interesting.
this show just waifu bait, go to any thread about it and you will see
you cant trust this user taste
I don't think it's right to show gay characters to children but at least TLH staff add them because they want to rather than as a publicity stunt because the show doesn't need it so even if I disagree, at least I can respect that.
Soccer moms don't give a shit about gay shit anymore, it's no longer the early 2000s.
Networks tend to be the ones to oppose gay shit because it huerts selling the show internationally.
>if I kissed Marco you would like to know
I guess Tom is bi too now, everyone is turning bi, did eclipsa fucked up another spell?
Remember how upset were moms for the gay jokes in Lego Batman? They're still there. Christian fundamentalism and conservaturism are getting stronger in USA
How much you wanna bet Ransomgram gets banned in a few countries?
How is Star bisexual?
>oppose gay shit because it huerts selling the show internationally.
that's what happens when they try and pander to the chinese?
watch the episode fag
Name modern cartoons without gay shit
I don't want to watch this show.
Most countries don't like gays
My only problem is when it's glorified and put on a pedestal. That's just nonsense that's mostly propped up by white feminism and straight """""allies"""""". A secondary character on TLH just having 2 dads without explanation is way better representation and inclusion than anything Steven Universe has or ever will do.
Most of them honestly.
i thought japan did or is it for merely fetish purpose?
Fetish if lesbians. Comedy if gays.
Sounds exaclty like homestuck ending.
I envy you, I in too deep to not see how it ends
huh, what's that? Myspace bullshit? I can't hear you over the sound of dead websites
So tell me how she is bi. What happened? I just draw porn of these characters.
how old is Marco now? I thinking around 50
Oh, hi there.
>I really liked this show for the first three seasons
Why? Just why? It was always just a shitty randumb comedy. Literally the only redeeming quality of the series is r34
You just discovered this show is tumblr trash NOW?!
I wonder if Jushtin Lee is familiar with this character.
Not really, it depends on the target audience really. Sailor Neptune and Uranus aren't fetishistic and they're probably the most famous gay couple in Japanese media. There's plenty of trashy yuri and yaoi stuff but that's not all of it.
Japan is about a trillion times better at audience targeting than the west is. Shows like SU, Voltron and Star Vs are clearly intended for an older audience but is trying to market to kids but the creators are pandering to the late teens to mid 20s internet crowd so it's just a real mess.
they went to the dimension where Marco becomes a adult and Star gor horny for Marco and for the new warrior lady
I've come to the conclusion most anons have a similar concept of just assuming shit
I kinda assumed Frederator lives through contract work, like it did for years
This is really funny if you headcanon Star has a fetish for being cucked and the amazon woman is her new bull.
Well, it's the show about girls in an age of SJW uprising, so it's hard for some people to give such shows a chance to see if it's actually good
>mfw they're making Star bi out of left field
what ? what happened ?
Lauren definitely knows how to get people to watch a show
Kek
also Tom
Pink horse cotton candy hair.
it's obvious she just admires her though
she probably represents the ideal woman Star wants to be when she grows up
>Swears that he remains Star's squire and best friend
>Already had an 'incident' with Star in the photo booth
>Swore up and down that he was just trying to get them out of there
>...
>Can I just get your opinion on these trunks before we go? :)
wow Marco is a fucking slut
>some random one-time gag
>IT'S POLITICS!!!!!! IT'S POLITICAL AGENDA BECAUSE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS ONLY ABOUT POLITICS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
God americans are retarded.
I like trapgirl a whole lot
>nose piercing bull dyke
Of fucking course.
>just waifu bait
No it isn't, it's fun and feels like 90's-2000's cartoon.
>go to any thread about it and you will see
>show full of girl characters being discussed on Yea Forums
What did you expected? Where do you think we are?
She's supposed to be a barbarian
Season 2 was what makes me love this show, I don't even recognize it anymore. It was perfect.
>this obsessed
I'm very sad because I feel like everything is mediocre today, I hate anime and cartoons too and I'm feel even more bitter than the common Yea Forums guy.
Then why go for the basic bitch metal septum piercing? Give that bitch a bone through the bridge of her nose or something, literally any type of bone piercing would better represent that.
Ok that sound logic to me but why all the characters are gay in the last episode?
Because she's not a fucking troll from Warcraft.
Eclipsa is doing pilates
Because fuck it
Bone piercings were a thing before WoW.
I wouldn't have thought a demon needed to be 'made' bi.
So were girls with sidecuts but you probably sperg about those too.
Because they can do whatever with it and don’t have to worry about backlash or censorship since fuck it the show is over. Same thing with making ships canon at the very end
Fuck it they should just stop dancing around and make all 3 confirmed bi and get it over with
Not really, no. In the case of a barbarian in makes sense to have a hair cut that doesn't obscure your vision. Nice attempt though.
3 episode in, and holy shit this show is boring. only little girls and waifufags would like this
Maybe she's just into the mating press.
She is
sauce plz, i'd let her press my mating hole
Well they already had Tom and Marco sing a romantic duet to each other. And since they both obviously want to fuck Star and she obviously wants to fuck them, might as well go all the way.
I stopped watching after they killed off Toffee. Sad to see it die like this.
Sorry you have a shit taste user.
>tfw this is the most based cartoon right now
Sexsphere Equinox
>15 year old girl sandwiched between a buff 30 year old man and woman and horny about it
>15 year old girl asking buff adult woman to hit her next
How did they get away with this?
In Star's kingdom the women are in power but some of the other kingdoms do have male rulers.
>getting sandwiched between two beefcakes
living the dream
I CHANGED MY MIND
TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK
TTG is unironically great from S3 and on.
The best western cartoon right now though is ducktales surprisingly.
My God...
Didn't she blush at the cheerleader back in season 1?
Too late user.
>from S3 and on
S1 and S2 were way better than the current season
Legit got a good laugh out of that
then stop watching it. you will save a lot of time
Weak
3-way when?
I'd actually say that the way they made Star bi was the most reasonable and in-character way it could've been.
>Star lusts after an older, incredibly hot and adventurous person with an outgoing and suave personality
>Star openly and loudly expresses her sexuality towards the person in a fawning way
>Woman fits basically the same body type of what she is incredibly into in terms of males
Also, there's not an indication that Star wants to date the buff chick. She just finds her very attractive and wants to spend time with her. Stars attraction to women doesn't necessarily mean she's not going to dump Tom and Marco for Jackie.
However, I am waiting to see if Sabrina will comment on this. No doubt she definitely pushed for this or at the very least she supported it.
this expressions are golden
>Because they can do whatever with it and don’t have to worry about backlash or censorship since fuck it the show is over. Same thing with making ships canon at the very end
Do you think that Pendletton wanted it? I mean Plum and Christ are supposed to have a son.
Yeah. I don't know what happened between seasons 2 and 3 writing staff wise. But whatever that was... Jesus.
I mean, season 3 at least got a bit funny and interesting near the end. But 4 so far is like 3 at its worst and then some.
time for abs
I was a big fan of Bravest Warriors. However, the incredibly long wait and lack of transparency (literally the FIVE MINUTES meme but real) made me weary and uninterested in the show. When I saw they released the new episodes finally, I had no interest in watching.
I'm fine with bi Star too, it's just a little jarring to see it pop up now. You could argue that she has a specific "type" for hunk bara ladies but there were already a few in the series that she did not react to at all. Oh well at least she has good taste in women.
I liked these episodes. Especially adult Marco with warrior waifu and horny Star. And the fact that Globgor is confirmed for having used to eat Mewmans and Moon still not trusting Eclipsa makes me think one or both of them might still be the big bad, which makes more sense than any other option.
Pen had no involvement with the show past the pilot.
She's just into a very narrow range of women, not that complicated or unrealistic.
wasn't Star also blushing at the cheerleaders early in the series?
I don't mind bi Star as long as it doesn't get between StarCo
This sounds worse than the AT finale.
The only reason Starco is the only reasonable endgame is because they're both too shitty to get anyone else.
just finished all the episode that are out, episode 5 and the ending of 7 were funny but everything else sucked. I you are the one with shit taste user
Nefcy's Wild Ride continues.
The question is, how the fuck does this tie into Dies Irae?
oh yeah the "booty shaking dance move" scene.
Marco didnt do shit in this episode
>they're making Star bi
source on this?
and will she be with Janna?
>wha? OH SHIT
>Huh? Why is the back of my neck wet? Oh..
In the latest episode Star was obviously crushing on an Amazon who will probably never appear again the same way she does for adult Marco.
That's pretty much it; it will probably never come up again but anons are acting like she hooked up with Janna
she can be as bi as she wants if it means she makes out with marco while he's in the dress
autistic bug + headpats =
I agree with this. This was done in a way that didn't bother me. They don't treat it like a big deal or even talk about it. She's attracted to a girl, big deal, life goes on. What would annoy me would be if Marco asked her why she acts weird around Brunzella and she gave a big impassioned speech about her sexuality.
You could argue she had something going on with Janna
At least they didn't wait for the very last episode to show it. The cartoon's also pretty casual about it.
She's already a deviant who has two boyfriends, why does it matter if she wants to add somebody else to the harem?
cool thanks
>anons are acting like she hooked up with Janna
Marco and Tom being bros is the best thing that happened to the show.
Even in Conquer when Marco comes clean, Tom only bails on him for like a full minute and then comes right back.
NEFCY I BELIEVED IN YOU
I SUNG YOUR PRAISES, I RECOMMENDED YOUR SHOW TO EVERYBODY, I SAID "She's not a hack like the rest, she knows what she's doing". BUT YOU'RE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM
No but seriously, fuck western cartoons
Wait. Nachos is a GIRL?
>I you are the one with shit taste user
>I the one with shit taste user
ftfy
> the ending of 7
Why do you lie user?
So Star is confirmed as a willing and consensual cuckquean now? She was happy about the idea that Marco and Brunzella had sex for years.
Glossaryck is a really shitty dad
We thought Marco was the harem protagonist, but it was Star all along.
The first season was harmless fun that grew in intensity as it went on and the second season built of the first in many good ways. It made it look like the show would be better than the sum of it's parts.
Sadly season 3 mucked it all up
HUUUUUUUUGS!
FINALLY!
user, who wouldn't want to picture those two going at it?
Anyway Tomstar is cute. Cute! But it's hard to see Star's continuing disinterest without breaking off the relationship. Painful. Painful!
I think that came up before, I'd guess Running with Scissors, but I can't remember the context.
drop Tom already
Date, marry, or make disappear forever?
whats the point of the Tom episode if they gonna break up?
have to keep people interested with soap opera BS
>Yeah. I don't know what happened between seasons 2 and 3 writing staff wise.
Giancarlo Volpe left the show
I really didn't want to believe this was another example of a show where this one guy was clearly keeping it all together but I was wrong
>leave women in charge of something
>turns to shit
like clockwork.
Nefcy gives no fucks
So what caused the collapse in season 3? Was it just a lucky accident that the first 2 seasons worked out so well and they couldn't sustain it beyond that?
They probably wanted more Demon Kingdom stuff, and maybe establish where Tom got his anger issues from.
...
that's kinky? I guess?
No Janna is for Jackie
I think this supports the Starcuck theory
she would probably enjoy watching them fuck
I think S2 and S3 up to the end of Battle for Mewni were all they had initially planned out.
Then when they had a confirmed S3 and S4 they had to come up with a new plot + probably pad out the shipping drama so that Starco only happens close to the end, and couldn't pull off the new stuff a second time because that was what so many fans had invested in so heavily in the first place.
Thank you, Senpai-user.
It's funny that no one addressed the fact that Star pretty much asked Marco if he fucked Brunzella and that Marco didn't say no.
He also probably fucked Brunzella a whole bunch more in the 30 seconds he was in the other dimension.
>because that was what so many fans had invested in so heavily in the first place
Meant fans had been invested in the original stuff. Mainly the Toffee plot, but I guess also Jarco instead of Tomstar, Star on Earth instead of Mewni, etc.
Volpe only came on in season 2 and was only a writer for 5 episodes and a director for 13 (out of 41). So there's got to be more to it than that. Was there anybody else who left after season 2 or who came on for a major role in season 3?
They were insecure about if there would even be a season 4 or if they would have to condense everything for a TV movie. That's what Battle for Mewni was, if it was not renewed for season 4 it probably would have been a TV movie of that except with Marco breaking off with Jackie and telling Star he loved her at the end and kissing. Then they did the Battle for Mewni plot and didn't know where to go from there. Cut Marco confessing so it just looked like he ignored her confession completely. Decided that getting Starco together would end all the tension so they got Star with Tom. Putting Star back on earth after her big goodbye and having her interact with Jackie would be awkward so they kept her in Mewni and had to send Marco there too.
I was really hoping this would be the one to have Starco happen in the middle since they basically already acted like a couple. Now they're just weird
That's not pilates, that's a slipped disk waiting to happen.
more hugs
indeed
it's okay for people to acknowledge and express attraction towards certain characteristics regardless of sex
why is star such a piece of shit?
I thought the 80s series was a lot gayer
People who were interested with soap opera bs are now getting tired of the soap opera bs.
God I wish that were me.
Does nobody remember her reaction to the booty shaking?
youtube.com
It's pretty clear that she thinks girls are kinda hot, might be nothing more than that though. Seems kinda common nowadays for women who think women are hot, but don't really want relationships with them
cuz the patriarchy
That Glossaryck is 10/10. Ludo's kinda cool, too. It's a shame that 80s cartoons were bound by toy manufacturers, otherwise I think they could've designed much better human characters.
>Are you an angel?
>Nah I got a demon for a boyfriend.
The same can be said about pretty much all cartoons from Adventure Time and on.
people here are talking about star suddently becoming bi, but that part did not make me feel off, just brushed it off. on the other hand this one line is what made me cringe a bit, how fucking ironic is it for a cartoon in which the main character hails from a majorly matriarchic society also describe marco's war against opression of freedom of thought as fighting the patriarchy.
Star's into NTR
But her kingdom is a matriarchy.
I miss Marco obsessed Star, it was actually interesting, especially the hoodie episode
probably most kingdoms are patriarchies, mewni is an exception (and clearly not any less shit because of it).
What is it with ipads and making people who hold them look autistic?
It didn't occur to you that it was an extremely obvious throwaway gag and you didn't need to get triggered by it like the other half dozen retards here?
Source? That sound interesting
Holy shit, Star is an actual cunt
she got angry because Tom didn't tell her he knew she cheated?
and then she angrily walks out, if it weren't for the lava flood Tom would've had to suck it up AGAIN and apologize even though he did nothing wrong
what the hell, Nefcy?
Star is at her most fuckable in her pajamas
I miss when Marco had something going on with him, it's really hard to like Starco when he is like a dog.
And that cucked demon only thing he does is accept his current status.
Thank you for this still shot compilation, user. They brought a smile to my face.
ya the whole universe has to revolve around Star
shits getting annoying
looks like it didn't occur to you that people in these threads tend to analize the littlest detail to push some shit theory, also
>suggesting i'm triggered
i'm just pointing out that i found that kinda stupid, could not give any less of a damn if the past couple episodes were devoid of anything remotely interesting save for this bi thing and stretching out tomstar more
Is Star a Mewman? Festivia was a pie gypsy, but did she marry back into mewman blood? I mean, anyone can wield the wand, but what about the mewberty/butterfly jazz? Actually, is that shit exclusive to the wand-wielding princesses, or do all mewman girls undergo that process?
can you imagine if they do a twist at the end and Star end up with ponyhead?
Marco keeps tempting her It messes up her senses.
>the whole universe has to revolve around Star
Yeah, it should just be a galaxy
anyone who has a problem with lgbt is triggered user
Yeah, it's a shame she doesn't instantly get called out and told she's not entitled to react that way and then she agrees. Oh wait.
And the best part is that even if they break up, it's probably going to be his fault.
She can do no wrong.
I think all are "Mewmans," as in the same species, but the Pie Folk and the Mewmans in Butterfly Kingdom just want nothing to do with each other and are pretty much separate countries. I think the Spiderbites are also Mewman, same with Johansens, etc. Just different kingdoms/lands. Star is a Mewman.
Mewberty and the Butterfly form also come from exposure to magic and the wand and are exclusive to the princesses with magic. The spellbook says it's something unique to the Butterfly family. It happened to both the original and Festivia's line, though Eclipsa seems not to be able to use a Butterfly form at will since she apparently doesn't know wandless magic.
That patriarchy line clearly shows that Nefcy finally turned fully into SJW pandering hoe with no idea how to end this show
yer welcome user
Yeah but afterwards she still acts like a brat and wants to pretend that it wasn't her fault
Star is never taken to task for her decisions in any way that matters. That's been a problem from the very start.
Yeah, saying she has to go in a sad tone of voice after agreeing she's behaving inappropriately is sooo bratty.
>That image
Didn't Star always barge in on Marco right after showers?
>Lauren Faust
>the one that shilled for female Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel
>the one who was too SJW for Hasbro
Nah, there were only few episodes of DC Girls released and its already full of "SLAY QUEEN" pandering and 99% of characters and villains are "strong females". Ill pass. Maybe G5 of ponies will be more balanced between male and female characters with more right wing conservative writing.
Can't wait for the adult Marco x Brunzella art with Star watching.
>in a sad tone
sounded more angry than sad to me, same way your post is worded aswell
Not only mewman girls, monster girls too.
Then you are retarded.
Did Star kidnap some girls during Mewberty too?
Every time Tom says something to Star it feels forced and gross
Why even call it Star Vs Forces of Evil? After TOffee died, this show for over a season and a half is nothing but Star Vs Shipping
I can't believe Star is a carpet munching dyke... lel
>Tom confesses to his Mom about Star kissing Marco because Star never actually discusses anything relationship or trust-wise with him
>Star gets fucking mad at him and immediately tries to leave
If the next episodes don't have Tom getting out of this awful relationship then holy fuck did his character get JFK'd
Oh no, did you piss and cum yourself?
>Show renamed to "Who Gets To Cum Inside Star"
Sadly after seeing that barbarian warrior woman added in the recent episode, i think Nefcy had fallen into a rabbit hole of tumblr left. I'm pretty sure early seeasons were building up more male characters as cool - Marco, Toffee, Tom seemed to be cooler than in recent seasons where Tom and Marco act like sissies and Toffee was killed off with little respect.
patriarchy isn't something inherently related to lgbt people unless you're talking about the political movements that support abolishing the former and supporting the latter, but whatever.
>but did she marry back into mewman blood?
She married someone named Prince Musty Mountains (sounds magic related already), and had two children: Dirhennia was magic-less while Crescenta was a prodigy.
>That cutoff
Apex comedy
I feel that Tom will be the one to ultimately break things off with her Jackie style. Eventually it'll be too absurd to deny any longer and he'll just end the relationship on his own terms
THESE SHIPS ARE JUST THE BEGINNING
COTUNGO WILL COMMAND A GREAT AND TERRIBLE ARMY OF FAGS
AND THEY WILL SAIL TO A BILLION SHOWS
THEY WILL SAIL UNTIL EVERY CARTOON HAS TURNED GAY
Not everyone can laugh at lame quirky jokes and characters with ADHD. This show is like TT GO combined with Power Puff Girls. Its aing going nowhere if it can't invest in any serious lore building and threatening male villains like Slade or Toffee.
This. Star is a cuck.
Where were you when Star Vs. had less lasting artistic value than this album?
I stopped caring for Star after S2. She's so annoying i only wait for secondary characters to do something.
>Starco still prolonged because Marco conveniently retards over Kelly and has trouble choosing even though it would make no sense
Are you ready for more 4D chess?
Y'all act like Tomco isn't the end goal, here.
Why it's so hard to acknowledge that your waifu is doing shitty actions? maybe the writers don't see that she is doing anything wrong but you should at least.
She even called him an idiot, he has better relationship with Marco.
>Tom breaks things off with Star since she blatantly cheats and keeps secrets from him
>Star seeming to lean toward Marco
>Marco actually has a good thing going with Kelly and Star is left out in the cold
I miss Jackie
starco is dead and marco was useless even in hekapoo's dimension. those episodes were terrible.
also, dismantle the patriarchy? doesnt make any sense, mewni is a matriarchy and princess turdina is only known in mewni.
So, the "Korra Ending."
>leaves the show and survives assassination
>Star turns into a bisexual and gets worse as the show progresses
JACKIE WON
Nefcy is a hack, change my mind.
Dirhennia could use magic and created a couple of spells. She just had little to no interest in the whole thing.
Her mother never found out because her chapter was incripted, making less powerful Butterflies only see bubbles.
I thought they were alright. Can't wait for more.
That's not Jackie...that thing ate Jackie. That's a whale.
after marco left jackie became a fat hog
color me surprised
glossaryck calling star a stupid dyke when?
>JACKIE WON
how? she broke up with Marco
Are you suggesting the princesses that the princess maro toyline is catering to are all ruled under matriarchal systems? Mewni is unique because its female leaders are actual bug people.
I legit attempted to watch a few of the shorts and was cringing constantly due to Tara's voice being Babs. No variation from her former horse character whatsoever.
>leaves the show and survives assassination
Would it have been better if Jackie and Marco hadn't broken up in season 3, and Star apologized to Jackie for confessing? And then Jackie comes over to Mewni with Marco and that's why Star hooks up with Tom to get over him?
Should i jerk off to star before i sleep
No because Star is only for lesbians now.
>Give Marco a cool sword named after a Mexican druglord
>Only uses it once for 20 seconds in one episode
>Never uses it in Ransomgram and throws it away
Holy fuck, what wasted potential
>Marco learned how to speak merman
He said this at the end of Ransomgram. We also know Jackie used to live near the sewers. You might think ohh this post about mermaid Jackie.
Well almost. Remember the punk Star episode? Marco was battling it out with Tom at the time. When they reach a truce and return one of the first thing Star says is: 'hey Marco, did you know that if you kill a mermaid you can't become queen?' This is really reaching. But hey.
What if not.
we live in a world where Starckie could be canon simply because it's gay and would be #pushingthoseboundaries
and the ones that complain about it would be called homophobes afterwards
Adventure time and Korra ruined cartoon shipping
Jesus christ this whole season going to be a huge fucking filler. Just release Globgor and move the plot for fuck sake. Explain the existance of Toffee, make Mewman and MOnsters love eachother and fucking END IT. Nefcy could do it all in just 5 episodes but she prefer to put a lot od pointless episodes about irrelevant shit.
Marco in general is just an endless ocean of wasted potential.
Being bi doesn't mean she doesn't like guys you reatard.
Like Globgor gonna change anything, guy gonna out of the ice and be huge nice guy
To show what happens to a relationship when months of insecurity, lies, and guilt keeps getting ignored then left to fester. It’s not a good feeling because Tom and Star mean well to each other, but we saw how they chose to ignore a problem that is putting a serious strain on their relationship.
being fictional means she could never like you
>the existance of Toffee
He was a big bad monster general who killed Moon's mom. Star defeated her by upping her magic powers. The end.
>make Mewman and MOnsters love eachother
Why? Is that how it works in th real world?
>put a lot od pointless episodes about irrelevant shit.
You know what's really funny is that despite the fact that it's all shit now (You) are still here bitching about it.
Just like Jackie! ayy
>the finale always has a gay/lesbian kiss.
>Legend of Korra
>Gravity Falls
>Adventure Time
lol yup. Wish they had the balls (or the pussy) to do it sooner.
I do see more people talk about how great ATLA was and not LoK, so that does make sense.
Globgor is probably going to be a generally cool and honorable guy but he isn't going to let that shit the MHC did to him, his people, and his family go without some sort of fucking retribution
He canon used to eat people. He can't be that great.
The show is over user. Disney is just wanting to air the final season and be over with it.
>Is Eclipsa evil or misunderstood?
At this point it doesn't matter since her character is random. The only static fact is that she wants her husband back and she was falsely imprisoned.
>Is Globgor evil or misunderstood?
Are there enough episodes remaining to carry this plot?
>Is Starco going to not happen until the very final episode?
Probably, I'm hoping for that timeskip ending that Nefcy hinted at all the way during season one on Twitter. I think it was during the father time episode.
>Explain the existence of Toffee
He was a monster general that wanted revenge for Globgor's crystallization, probably.
>Make Mewmans and Monsters love each other
Nah, if anything, the Mewmans will leave to go to a new contingent or area. River and Moon have left to set up a new kingdom.
>Nefcy could do it all in just 5 episodes
No, no she couldn't. She is a terrible writer when it comes to long-term planning. This has been evident due to how the show has evolved over the seasons. She has short ideas that are great but long-term plans are left undeveloped.
He went "vegan" for Eclipsa. Besides some of the Mewman Queens were far worse in comparison with some of the shit they did
Watch as Globgor is a cool mother fucker who tricked Eclipsa into loving him but has an evil motive. Yet, he then fell in love with her before his plan fully went into effect.
>have to wait for the bloodmoon ep to see if he does anything interest because so far he didn't do anything and the other episodes aren't going to be anything different
I want to be pessimist and say that they will remove the bloodmoon ''curse'' to fuck with everyone, the biggest Starco flag
Marco would be better suited for another show. The character of "the safe kid who becomes a hero" worn out its welcome during season one. Right now, Marco is simply "Star's shadow".
Remainder that they made it canon
So this is the last season, but we're several episodes in now and I still don't really know what the main conflict is. Are we really going to spend another dozen episodes trying to free Globgor? I don't care about him at all.
Tom should've ended it right at that moment. That was his last chance to have any dignity.
It's already too absurd to deny any longer and yet here we are.
Kelly's not his type. Marco only goes for blondes.
>out of left field
nah being cucked for two years straight has just forced her to change
Main conflict is Globgor and the aftermath of the whole monsters as part of the kingdom thing and if that'll hold up I thought?
Huh, same. Didn't even realize it but I only watch this show for the minor characters like River now.
Faggot
>waifucucks' beloved waifu pitches for the other team
The absolute state of Starcucks
I wrote a novel and my protagonist is bisexual from before but he never confessed because they already had a partner & and they die later. (2 best male friends).
It's ironic that I can do something better and I'm not even known in Yea Forums-media.
But when the day comes... if it comes, the world will burn and be reborn.
That's a shitty example of forced pandering at the end.
>Scott Pilgrim
Nah, i don't care about that shit.
My way of writing comes mainly from Yea Forums.
>Me imagining all these scenes with just star and marco
The amazon friend felt like a fifth wheel that ruined a potentially fun starco adventure episode. Marco was also made less competent to make room for her.
I wish also for Globgor to be voiced by Wayne June. But we all know that Globgor isn't going to be pissed at the Mewmans and MHC for Monster-Mewman conflict or fucking over his daughter's life.
>Hey user. This guy killed and ate your family.
>What are you getting mad for? He went vegan since then so it's totes fine.
>pie gypsy
Oh my god I just thought of something
Honestly S4 doesn't even really feel like a new season so much as it does S3 Vol. 2.
Did no one mention how the show basically confirmed Tom as bi too? He said "wouldn't you want to know if I had kissed Marco?" as if that was a totally plausible situation to happen for him.
Just saying the whole can't be that great thing isn't much when compared to his company and predecessors like the one who turned off gravity or the other one who performed Mewman experimentation and was just a genocidal autist that never changed and they think they're great
>there is going to be an entire episode of Kelly and Marco
oh you silly user, the shipping drama just begun
Tom's been pan since Friendenemies.
No but joking aside, do you think we'll see a Tom-Marco kiss?
Also what the fuck was that about him almost drowning in the lava? Dude can FLY, what the shit is this? Also why can't they draw his face right
read the thread
I didn't really take that as confirming he's bi. I'm not saying he isn't or that it's impossible either, just that he was literally reversing the situation on her. The only other female options are Kelly, Pony Head, and Janna, and two of those he's barely interacted with and Pony Head's a pony head. "Well what if I'D kissed him" just seems like the easiest way to get the idea they were going for about cheating across without really obviously stilted dialogue.
I swear there was a line from Star to Marco about Tom in S3 that was something like "well then why don't YOU date him" but I don't remember anyone acting like that confirmed Marco as bi. But since I can't even remember what episode that was it's possible I mixed that up with something else somehow.
I just think that compared to how blatant Star's crush was they'd do more to show Tom being definitively bi. Which they still could.
Cute and Perfect is dead and Nefcy killed it. BASED
My prediction:
>Globgor is freed
>Eclipsa reveals herself to be evil and calls on Globgor to smash the Mewmans as vengeance for freezing them and stealing her daughter
>Globgor has changed and doesn't want to
>He's happy that monsters are living with Mewmans now and doesn't get why Eclipsa won't just move on
>Eclipsa is the big bad
Maybe she mind controls Globgor, or possesses him like she did with Rhombulus, to destroy Mewni.
Foreshadowing for this:
>Moon said the problem wasn't with Globgor but she doesn't trust Eclipsa
>Also remember Eclipsa disappeared and did something sneaky while Moon was trapped in that wall that one time
Also it fits with the moral they are trying to show. If Globgor himself was the big bad it would undercut the 'anti-monster=racism' angle.
I wonder how long it will be before seeing the first porn image of Star and the amazon woman?
Why is that a bad thing
Yeah, I'm surprised no one else seems to have mentioned the "drowning" and how worried everyone seemed to be.
Like if it was Star she'd be at risk of fucking dying. Tom can swim in lava with no issue and since he was surfing nothing indicated he couldn't swim. I get an actual person being washed out to sea in a normal beach would be alarming, but Tom has powers.
Felt contrived along the lines of Star leaving her wand at home that one time.
Star is a cuckquean. Deal with it, it's canon now.
drooling over somebody cool is not the same as sexual attraction. you people are the reason everyone thinks theyre gay now just for having normal feelings.
The big bad has to end up being Seth. There's still too many unanswered questions about Toffee and even Globgor was afraid of the guy. He's pretty much the reason Eclipsa made the immortal killing spell in the first place.
I don't think I've ever seen that sort of example before, I like it. People get real antsy about explicit labels on sexuality, but it's fun that a scenario where Tom secretly kisses Marco was a genuine thought that crossed his mind.
Marry Brunzella, fuck Nachos, kill Star.
i mean i would be too if i was between those 2
she also pretended to hate the smell of his hoodie, then later was obsessed with it
she's conflicted.
I thought Seth was an old bastard by the time Comet was queen. Hence why Toffee took his place as leader of the monster rebellion, or something like that.
You're one of those idiots who didn't believe Bubbeline till the last episode, right?
did Janna steal Marco's keys?
They really cranked up River's idiocy and grossness to 11 this season, huh?
I really want Tom to end up with someone who appreciates, supports and is worthy of him. I mean he built that sick carriage just to take his gf out, holy damn.
Except, yes it totally is.
Just because you are sexless does not mean everyone else is too
>BASED
*Between 2 Friends
ftfy
LoK and GF didn't have kisses.
Septarians are ageless and there's nothing to indicate Seth was ever killed. He ran for an election to lead the monsters but he lost due to Crescenta rigging it. After that he fucked off back to Septarsis but he was definitely still active at least during Comet's reign.
You know what else is canon?
River just kind of seems to take a hit in competence with each appearance. I kind of think his best role was Diaz Family Vacation and that was nearly 4 years ago.
For the sake of jokes, yeah. but Moon ultimately agreed that something's not quite right with the new kingdom. With Eclipsa.
this. the thing I liked most about marco is that he could fight and keep up with star. I remember thinking in the first episode that he would be the lame sidekick who fucks thing up and it really surprised me when he started kicking ass
>make no mention of Jackie
>cuck does it for me
ABSOLUTLY SEETHING STARKEK
>Make a dumb statement with absolutely zero evidence to support it in the post
>Get called out
>WHY Y'ALL SEETIHNG KEK HURRRR WHY ARE YOU ANGRY
>we tumblr now
The absolute state of Starcucks. All these jokes about Jackie or Janna being lesbians and then Nefcy fucks you dirty. LEL I'm out. Have fun with your dyke waifu.
>Glossaryck being a dick to Eclipsa, too
I don't know what to make of that. I hope he starts being just a teensy tiny bit more proactive when the plot picks up.
>quoting Sabrina "my mission in life is to shove gayness everywhere" "who gives a fuck about canon" Cotugno
You fool
Who said that?
l.o.l.
she still worked on the show after season 2?
>The absolute state
Says this while being assmad himself, threatening literal nobodies on a chinese basket weaving forum with empty lies.
Nigga I'd wish you'd leave. Honestly. But you never do.
It is what it is nigga. I have no idea what the future holds. But I'm pretty sure it's going to be at least a little bit queer. Nothing I can do about it.
Lil Glossy had been an asshole for thousands of years. That probably won't change.
>Leave this poor man alone
godamn
WELL
whaddayaknow
She IS stuck in the middle.
She's still working on it, yes.
i was goin to draw it, but i deleted my sketch
Star's theme
youtube.com
>that face
Star accepting her cuck fetish confirmed.
That was 300+ years ago, there's nobody still alive whose family members he ate.
>But I'm pretty sure it's going to be at least a little bit queer.
Yeah, with STAR. :P
technically after three weeks ago no one is working on it
I thought they said he went vegetarian, not vegan? Or did I mishear?
Shit that's cute. God I wish it'd happen, even on a vague hint level.
Based and cinammonpilled.
>mfw Star and Tom didn't break up over the kiss thing
If he breaks up with Star then how will Tom get to basically kiss Marco through Star so he can kiss Marco without being gay?
they put a very large cautionary distance between adult marco and her tight girl ass
But you know that's just for TV, and they would have done it completely different
I think they said vegetarian too.
his dad is human and his mon is lady satan, from where Tom monster part comes from?
>they put a very large cautionary distance between adult marco and her tight girl ass
Marco confirmed for packing invisible spic-dicc
Remember when Marco actually fought.
Demons are basically rich monsters that helped Mewmans out
Didn't he fight with the el chapo blade...?
no, it was so long ago
>they put a very large cautionary distance between adult marco and her tight girl ass
>But you know that's just for TV
you know, i was well aware of how shit marco's character has become over the last season and this one, but this screen was able to highlight it even more. what the fuck happened??
Yeah it was in S3.
>canonical age difference between marco and star in Ransomgram
What's this about? Is Star actually older than Marco, or vice versa?
>It's beautiful.
I thought you guys hated Star.
Star is better when she is the one being cucked
From nowhere. He's not a "half monster", he's a demon or a half demon - demon royalty, in fact. He's insanely privileged to the point that he was considered the most suitable suitor for Star, the crown princess.
It's just the writers being idiots and trying to shove in some biracial issues because Cotugno is biracial and has identity issues or whatever. It's ridiculous.
How long until the giant Orange Badman in the crystal is released and embarks upon a crusade to get rid of all the "bad hombre" Mewmans? Then after they defeat him in the final episode the whole cast turns to the camera and says "Yang Gang 2020"
Marco becomes a 30 year old hunk in another dimension.
Are you joking, I caught my little brother watching Jeffree star the other day. Nowhere is safe.
He is vegetarian, not vegan.
It's in the Book too.
Bro there was nothing more i wanted to see than Star shed her shell and become something free and happy. If she wants to see her man balls deep in other girls, who are we to judge?
Tom seems fine with Star having two boyfriends.
Oh, that's what you're talking about? I thought it was something different.
Globgor must've eaten so many eggs to keep his bulky frame
In 'Running With Scissors' Marco went to another dimension where time works differently, so he aged up 16 years. Even though he looked normal when he came back to earth, he is actually mentally 31 years old now.
Now he fights the patriarchy.
>female mc created after 2010 is being shoehorned as bisexual
Not really surprised. This is why I stop considering most new shows canon past season 1 or 2 since they always pull this.
Have you watched the show?
In the ep Running with Scissors Marco spent like 16 years iirc hunting Hekapoo through dimensions in order to earn his own pair of scissors or something, and aged to a 30something man (the hot Marco). Even though his physical body de-aged back to, uh, 15 (?) when he returned to Earth, his mind didn't, and he had trouble remembering his passwords etc.
So there's a bit of a problem in that he's essentially a 30 yo dude in a teenager's body.
Now with this ep, he spent another long stretch building the castle and doing all sorts of crazy stuff, to the point where he got his first gray hair (though that could be 30something too), so it's probably 15 years again at least. So he's actually lived through and experienced close to 50-60 years by now, combined.
>Bro there was nothing more i wanted to see than Star shed her shell and become something free and happy.
I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic.
>Honestly S4 doesn't even really feel like a new season so much as it does S3 Vol. 2.
That's because it literally is S3 Vol. 2.
The renewal for a 4th season actually came fairly early (right around the time the S2 finale was airing), but it was still less notice than they got about getting a 3rd. But more importantly this time it was a surprise. They weren't actually expecting this series to more than 3 seasons (after all Disney shows virtually never go beyond 3 seasons).
So they had two options: either continue as planned with S3 and only after that point worry about what they're going to do in S4, or try to spread out a single season's worth of content across 2 seasons and come up with filler to pad out the episode count. And they chose the latter.
Maybe they had a good reason for doing that. Maybe the finale is going to be something really definitive and it'd be almost impossible to continue with another season afterward. But maybe it was just they didn't think they could come up with a whole additional plot arc for a new season, and they realized that relationship drama subplots are easy to drag out for as many episodes as they need. (Honestly had that renewal for a 4th season not happened, I doubt Tomstar would've even been a thing at all.)
nah, he just too much of a bitch to speak up. he is probably crying about it to his mom.
also, how weird is Tom crying his problems to his mom is canon?
Satanic Quads Tells no Lies.
what's funny about it is that Mewni is, by it's nature, a MATRIARCHY... it's their MOTHERS that are sending them to boarding school to continue the 'conservative' thinking
Wow. Fucking saved, great job on this user
How About Ratings for the Overall Episodes This Week Anons? After some thinking, my list goes goes: Swim Suit > Ransomgram > Moon Remembers > Lake House Fever. While important shit wasn't resolved and those cans were still kicked down the road, and there was some very obvious pandering to what feels like fringe aspects of the fandom... there was still a lot of goofy fun around to be had... some lore aspects that were explored, callouts to features in the books.
Biggest gripe was the glaring hole in Lake House with Star able to control portals with her Butterfly Mode and yet being "stuck" there. Favorite scene was probably that shared embrace with Moon. Her mom loves her, did the best she could to raise her, but ultimately, she's letting Star go off to live her life and make her own decisions, for better or worse. She gave her opinion, but isn't going out of her way to force the situation one way or the other, and neither is her father. It was really simple, but something kinda heart-wrenching about that scene hit me.
>and experienced close to 50-60 years by now, combined.
That reminds me of someone...
Marco arrived back in Star's room like 10 seconds after she did. If 8 minutes = 16 years then he was only gone for a few months.
Thank God based Jackie escaped from this shitpile before she could get infected with the gay too.
Kill yourself you cant even damage control properly
>what's funny about it is that Mewni is, by it's nature, a MATRIARCHY... it's their MOTHERS that are sending them to boarding school to continue the 'conservative' thinking
Are all of those other princesses from Mewni? It certainly didn't seem that way in the original St. O's episode.
Watchout the starcucks are gonna pelt you with shitty memes
>. he is probably crying about it to his mom.
That is quite literally what happened. I'm not sure why he didn't confront Star about it, he was the one with the anger issues for so long. I guess he really did change.
>Biggest gripe was the glaring hole in Lake House with Star able to control portals with her Butterfly Mode and yet being "stuck" there.
The whole Tomstar "relationship" (if it can even be called that) is contrived nonsense, why should this ep be any different?
The only hope I have for this season is that the theory that Moon was somehow corrupted or possessed by Toffee turns out to be true...
Swim Suit > Ransomgram > Lake House Fever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miss Heinous Shits Herself
>Kill yourself
I guess you're angry about something.
>Biggest gripe was the glaring hole in Lake House with Star able to control portals with her Butterfly Mode and yet being "stuck" there.
I thought about that too, but I think in-universe it'd just seem rude/a waste of powers that she's apparently so desperate to end the date on schedule that she goes into super mode to ollie out.
>Show ends in Tomco and Starckie
Star got rid of Toms toxic masculity, now he is a proper man taht suffers in silence, cry to his mom and does nothing about it
... so then who DO you work for now, Glossaryck? previously you were tied to the book and the wand. Did something change? Has no one yet been recognized by the book, so it's just neutral at the moment?
If you pay attention to all princesses, most of them are monster types shown in Mewni.
>Swim Suit > Ransomgram > Moon Remembers > Lake House Fever
Yeah I think I agree with you.
>She gave her opinion, but isn't going out of her way to force the situation one way or the other, and neither is her father. It was really simple, but something kinda heart-wrenching about that scene hit me.
Moon reminds me of Jake the Dog because of this. And this is most likely the best she could do for Star. She's putting her trust in Star to learn on her own.
Literally who?
that's a good joke user
haha
Yeah I've fonud that weird too. At the end of S2 he was clearly 'on the side' of Eclipsa. Or so it seemed. But not anymore?
maybe it has something to do with Star fucking up the magic dimension.
>Star? Is that you? It's been so long!
>I have so much to tell you!
>The castle's all finished, I learned to speak merman, I got my first gray hair, I taught a group of gnomes how to dance
It doesn't sound like just a few months, honestly
But user, we’re the secondary audience. This show was never meant for our ilk.
>Star got rid of Toms toxic masculity
I wish you were joking but at this point that's kinda plausible.
What episode had the "dismantle the patriarchy" line?
Ramsomgram, I think.
Ransomgram
>n Star's room like 10 seconds after she did. If 8 minutes = 16 years
I think you're looking too deeply into this. Probably the only thing we have to take away from the portals, that time flows differently in other dimensions. No exact measurements can be made.
Or maybe the writers are inconsistent because of reasons.
Tfw we'll never get more episode of Marco actually using his martial arts.
tubedubber.com
At the end of Ransomgram Marco's reward for slaving away rebuilding a castle for those ghost guys and losing another 30 years of his psychological life is that he gets his cuck shed back and there are some Princess Turdina dolls inside that say the line when he pulls the string.
To all the anons who told me that "Cotugno has no power" or "Don't listen to Cotugno, she's a director with no control", what do you have to say for yourselves? Star is bi, Tom is bi, Marco is a trap. Once Jackie and Janna are seen holding hands, the set will be complete.
Everyone is bi. Deal with it.
Wasn't there another episode that said something like that about janna?
something about how she likes to, "smash the patriarchy" or some such nonsense?
I wish that image used the full shot of Marco's tiny little triangle being attached to Star's fuckoff huge tower instead.
It's exactly what I thought when I saw the episode too though
Marco knew exactly what he was doing. That shot was gonna be 80% bulge and Star would've been wet at the instant.
I'm so glad I dropped this show like a hot potato. As soon as toffee was killed and we were halfway through season 3 with literally fuck all happening we were in for a shitshow.
Erik isn’t dead.
the cuck shack
Hope you anons are still super pumped for Owl House. You'll get a chance to enjoy even more of her wonderful storytelling and character development for seasons to come!
yeeeaaah that's the stuff
fuckin' smooth ass line from Star.
motherfucker doesnt even has his own door, he has to go through Stars room to get in or out
How cucked is Bobby at home?
Maybe she prefers getting her carpet munched?
>I know it didn't mean anything! But that doesn't mean I didn't want to talk about it!
>So I talked with my mom!
Star didn't say that the kiss with Marco didn't mean anything to her. She just tried to dodge the whole thing. But Tom seem like he definitely wants to make their relationship work despite this.
they managed to punch Tom and Marco down even more
He needs to break up with her
How's their sex life?
Reminder on who owns what.
>there's not an indication that Star wants to date the buff chick
Don't be so naive, the only reason they didn't make them flirt openly with Star rubbing the butch lesbian thigh while sitting around the fire it's just because is a fucking Disney cartoon.
>"Let's dismantle the patriarchy!"
She directed the final season, son
Like nothing
Marco, mentally and (in the other world) physically, is probably in his 40s or 50s.
hellish
>tfw Chromosomefarm's art is pretty much full canon at this point
Fuck me I forgot my Carlos
the new episodes are shit. i'm only rooting for janna now
>Give Marco a sword that he wouldn't be able to use anyway, even though the show already shown that he can hold his own with punches.
Why not just give him some ancient kung fu magic from the Hekapoo that allows him to have fire fists?
hot and steamy
Probably just glad of having a gringa paying the bills with the weird fetish of watching him having sex with other women. She may be annoying but there are worse places to be, especially with the current anti-immigration policy.
>tfw Sabrina has already made Eda a lesbian, Luz her little bislut, and King is a trans and gay.
Owl House 'bout to be gay af
Have we gotten any solid evidence about him retaining all that knowledge/experience from his time there? He seems notably more confident and in control in his Mature body, but when he comes back to non-dilated time, he's kinda back to the same old, lovable Marco. Not sure you can really claim he's got the full 30+ year old mindset if that's the case, though he may keep minor memories or knowledge.
This is riverposter's Star doll.
Im going to shill my favorite anime this season now: Its Mob Psycho 100 season 2, although it looks like my little sister's doodles for the most part the animation is great and so is the writing
Okay, bye
If they actually gave him Hamon, it would be amazing because in the Japanese dub, the VA for Marco is the same VA for Jonathan from Phantom Blood. That alone would've made all the Westaboos lose their collective shits and made SVTFOE a permanent JP meme.
It was a quick gag that lasted a second and easily written off as Star just being caught off-guard. Doesn't really confirm a bi Star.
If they wanted bi Star, they should've done it during Mewberty.
>Probably just glad of having a gringa paying the bills
Don't underplay Bobby's career user.
Not gonna lie, they're cute and I'd kiss them both, if they asked me to.
... my god, someone saved this?! lmao. Thank you user, you just made my day.
Marco and gonna end up with Janna. After a brief marriage to Jackie, Janna is gonna gun for the second marriage with Diaz
but high school girls aren't jacked like that one girl was. Star has a type.
>Chromosomefarm
>All that Rocket Power fetish porn
wew laddie
That's a bit weird user. Although Hollywood people are notorious for their... wild approach to sex. I bet they'd fuck their fans.
everybody loves Marco (except the writters), Moon and Eclipsas hearts almost broke when Marco fell down the stairs
Very true. Bobby is a good filmmaker, long and short form. I met him once, he's the nicest dude ever! I think he'll actually be a pretty well-known director at some point in the future.
>anna is gonna gun for the second marriage with Diaz
Brah someone please post the picture of KId Nefcy and her friends dressed up as Sailor Moon. Real life Jackie and Janna are in it.
it was good. i just saved it too.
>dragging out shit because they were renewed
I mean, I guess this actually explains a lot because The Battle for Mewni, with several re-writes could have served as an alright finale to the series. A bit underwhelming since Toffee doesn't actually do anything, but alright.
It would explain why the plot just twists and turns in so many not great ways.
The thing is... Why do writers do this? Why can't they just resolve something and come up with an entirely new plot for the characters to be involved in? Why do we NEED Starco drama to last til the end of the fucking series, that's so cliche.
Having Star and Marco deal with their new relationship status instead of this "will they won't they?" bullshit would be far more interesting.
I think good characters can adapt to any plot, they don't need an already existing plots to be stretched out for infinity.
STAR BUTTERBI
>Moon and Eclipsas hearts almost broke when Marco fell down the stairs
yeah, that's an underrated thing about this episode! literally, everyone was gravely concerned when they thought it was possible that Marco could've been seriously injured.
Marco is a cinnamon bun and they all want to protecc
>Starco hug achieved after an adventure pulled straight out of beginner DM's quest from D&D
It went better than expected lads. chin up!
this one? point out the real Jackie and Janna, since i'm not sure who you were referencing.
>>After a brief marriage to Jackie
>Marco even remembering that Jackie exists.
>The show even remembering that Jackie exists.
LOL
flutter Bi
butter fly
Star at the front with her arms open, Jackie on the right wearing a red skirt, and Marco's second wife in the center staring right at the camera.
>I bet they'd fuck their fans.
i'd honestly be cool with it. I feel like Nefcy is pretty freaky and Bobby is probably bi. Plus, they both seem like sweethearts who would probably make you dinner and cuddle with you before and afterward.
Of course, I'd settle for just a fun afternoon and a hike through Griffith Park with both of them.
>Having Star and Marco deal with their new relationship status instead of this "will they won't they?" bullshit would be far more interesting.
Expecting stuff like this to happen is why people were excited about S3, and one of the many reasons it was a disappointment.
>I think good characters can adapt to any plot, they don't need an already existing plots to be stretched out for infinity.
The problem is that requires good writers.
oh shit, i see it. you're right!
why the fug are they SO CUTE
pure concentrated autism the post
Janna could always marry Jackie for that brief period where she's waiting for Marco's first divorce.
Janna probably doesn't shave. It's a Filipino jungle.
Oh god. What if they go the Kim Possible route and make it happen only at the very end
I wonder if Nefcy read this threads?
Yoooo... what did the Koran mean by this?
nefcy why u a cuk?
No, often times the writers fuck over the story on account of being bad writers. Just read manga and be done with it all.
Star is a nudist
I work with children and only hear mention of Fortnite and shit-tier vloggers these days. Does makes me wonder, do kids even watch these shows anymore? Or is it just ourselves and the tumblrites that keep flogging the dead horse that is western animation?
>doesn’t appear anymore
>if I lose I win
>Or is it just ourselves and the tumblrites that keep flogging the dead horse that is western animation?
The more I think about it, the more and more it sounds that this is very plausible.
Which is great, if the only people who care about animation in the west are middle aged losers then we can have more adult oriented animation.
Yeah it was in the new episode if you put down your unreasonable imagination
Yeah but thats what Marco loves...or he has to learn to love it.
>real life Janna
Janna's just a jumped up bg character, not based on people nefcy knew like Jackie
I remember Star and barbarian girl fighting and Marco doing nothing
Not only that, since the first episode in this season we've seen how Eclipsa considers Marco (out of her obvious Starco shipping) an important figure in Star's life who she has learnt to respect and care about.
Their bonding scene in Butterfly follies, her concern in Moon Remembers and she lending Marco's swim suits are proof of how their friendship is going steady. It's heart-warming.
Does Penn ever stick to a show during its whole run?
That's what I'm dreading.
At least with Kim Possible they had an extra season added afterward. That's not going to happen here.
>fought in the first episode of S4 against the dungeon knights
>fought against the pie folk
> saved nachos and got out only to return and help imprison the fire monster
>owns up for the chaos that ensued and rebuilds
Standards is one thing but saying that it didn’t happen alltogeatger and not addressing the details that I’ve mention only proves my point
They're saving it for the Notebook of Spells.
I once saw some little girls who said they liked the show, but I was the one who asked them if they'd heard of it just because I was honestly curious about that question too. The only other person I saw reference Star IRL was a college student cosplaying as her on campus.
The only people I've ever seen mention Steven Universe IRL, similarly, were teenagers or older.
And yeah obviously I'm sure there'd be more if I went to a convention or something. But in everyday life you don't actually hear about these shows much.
Crescenta was a retard who just seemed like a genius because she filled a whole library with broken spells she never bothered to fix and just pretended the bugs were features.
>Having Star and Marco deal with their new relationship status instead of this "will they won't they?" bullshit would be far more interesting.
No, it wouldn't. Not that I disagree with you on princinple, but in practice throughout the story of TV, and maybe storytelling in general, "Will They, Won't They?" dribble rakes in a bigger audience than a cemented relationship and its ups and downs.
That's how it is. Ever since the term "shipper" was invented to refer to those viewers that only tuned in to The X Files for Mulder and Scully's WTWT moments and ignore literally everything else about the show and its lore, it's been like that. People don't really like watching relationships, just characters being tsundere for each other.
Are you surprised this show is literally tumblr incarnate
Tom's mother is technically a "monster" in terms of biology (because look at her), but demons have been deemed "not monsters" by the Mewmans because they're rich and powerful and have been allied with the Mewmans for centuries. Same with the Ponyheads and Merfolk and talking killer pigeons.
When Tom claimed to be a monster, that's like if the sultan of Morocco visited the US in the 1800s and told slaves he's just like them because he's African too.
Unironically looking forwards to the notebook of spells... and if that's where I get my damn canon Starco fix, so be it.
So instead of getting to see Star and Marco go on dates and stuff, we'll get Star's diary entries about it happening. Wonderful. /s
Nah, it's bland pandering.
SU is the only true tumblr incarnation.
Putting aside any hate for ecelebs, what would you prefer, watching respectable people doing funny things, or watching the main male role being reduced to be the dog of the protagonist?
That's one big problem the show has, Marco is supposed to be a role model for kids, but seeing him do nothing is off-putting, i would even have stopped watching this show as a kid.
I'd love to see Mommy Solaria kill Eclipsa's ugly shitbaby
Jesus quit making everything about homosex
star is a good girl, she likes muscles. muscles are found on men
if there's muscles on women she just gets briefly confused, just like any sensible man does if he sees a bubble butt on what turns out to be a dude. you're allowed to get briefly confused.
I watch kids react every now and then and I think in the episode where they react to that gay short about the heart some kids mention watching star vs. My cousins kid also watches it and not evacuate of me.
You think she’d fuck a Mexican that isn’t watered down?
>Jesus quit making everything about homosex
Too late user! The HOMOSEX train is just starting up!
feel more like youre making excuses for yorself than talking about the show. user, you may be gay
Shut it, River.
Today's episode with marco rescuing nachos, star was literally in a constant state of awestruck whenever marco did anything.
Just so long as we're being totally fair here. I mean sometimes it certainly seems that way with marco, but today's ep had star literally unable to do anything without staring in wide-eyed wonder at every little thing marco did.
Artist?
>I build the carriage abloo bloo
To invite her to a place when he planned to curse her with a satanic moon that will force her to love him, wow what a guy.
Ohnarev
I'm talking more about s3 Marco where the fandom almost died.
Still i'm pretty sure until the bloodmoon ep Marco won't do anything remarkable.
And yet she didn't have any problem being under it with Marco.
Thanks
she doesnt know
>Still i'm pretty sure until the bloodmoon ep Marco won't do anything remarkable.
Probably not, no.
Not terribly surprising though I suppose.
>he planned to curse her
I thought we got rid of the tom-hating fags who were trying to misinterpret and twist everything to make Tom look like an abusive asshole?
Tom doesn't control the blood moon. The blood moon selects the couple it wants, so Tom wouldn't have been able to "curse her" with it since it's out of his hands. He just hoped the moon would pick him and Star if he'd arrange for them to be there and selectable.
Plus, "curse her with a satanic moon that will force her to love him" is an interesting take on Starco
>When Tom claimed to be a monster, that's like if the sultan of Morocco visited the US in the 1800s and told slaves he's just like them because he's African too.
That's a pretty good comparison actually
As much as Solaria hates monsters she would never betray her own blood.
Not to mention you forgot she wanted to enslave them for the sake of Mewni.
For her, Meteora would be a perfect killing machine to be used against other monsters, just like Mina.
She could always force Eclipsa to have another child for the throne, but losing such a perfect sodier is not an option for Solaria.
Not crowning Festivia as Shastakan's daughter while training and brainwashing Meteora as the bastard general was the MHC's greatest mistake.
They could have enslave monsters long ago with such a trump card.
I just rewatched the episode, and in the end when Tom pushes Marco he stands in the light for a few seconds. I wonder if that means anything
>Tom doesn't control the blood moon. The blood moon selects the couple it wants, so Tom wouldn't have been able to "curse her" with it since it's out of his hands. He just hoped the moon would pick him and Star if he'd arrange for them to be there and selectable.
We don't know this for sure. Hell, despite being one of the most important parts of the show, the Blood Moon hasn't been talked about in-show since the BMB.
shit, keep forgeting to erase that name
Oh, I agree man. But at the moment, that looks like the best we're gonna get ;_;
>Star is now bi-sexual
>awkward fucking dialogue and voice-acting
>Tom exposes Star's unfaithfulness and she gets mad at HIM
>Tom lost all of his dignity by apologizing
>Marco doesn't fight as much anymore and is just a punching bag now
>"Dismantle the patriarchy"
This show is so fucking bad there's no hope for redeeming it
>make Tom look like an abusive asshole?
The point was he WAS an abusive asshole for quite sometime until he made a concentrated effort to change.
I like to think Solaria has some degree of taste.
according to the wiki, firsr user is right
> two lucky souls are chosen to be bound together for eternity.
That can be interpreted in different ways. Maybe it chooses people who were 'destined' to be together by fate or some shit or maybe just a couple who were 'lucky' enough to be binded together by the ceremony. It's vague.
The Swim-suit episode is kino, though.
I'm sure kids watch stuff like SpongeBob, Loud House and maybe even Teen Titans Go and We Bare Bears, but I doubt that many actually give a shit about Steven Universe or Star vs. Most kids just care about video games.
Did you ever consider it was always the same?
>Star you are come of age it is time for you to choose future spouse
>you can have beautiful trap fuccboi who you already know will transition seamlessly into a buff chad when he hits adulthood
>or
>you can have beta triclops with a history of anger issues
>I thought we got rid of the tom-hating fags who were trying to misinterpret and twist everything to make Tom look like an abusive asshole?
Wasn't that the whole issue, that he WAS one, and that's why he needed a "redemption arc' in the first place?
wow that's spot on
Not him, but i like Starco more when they are equal, not this bitchboy type relationship.
Taste doesn't win wars, giant magical warriors with soul eating abilities and a desire for conquer running through their veins do.
Star's response: "Why can't I just fuck both of them? They'll let me get away with it."
If it did win wars then Eclipsa would lose hard.
>mfw "dismantle the patriarchy"
You guys are memeing right? This isn't something they actually say right?
There's a Princess Turdina doll that says that when you pull the string. For real.'
Because if there's anybody who's all about tearing down power structures, it's royalty.
>I'M ALREADY NEGATIVE
No, not really. He was just a bit clingy and tried a bit too hard to get Star back, and couldn't initially accept their relationship was over. Basic awkward clingy ex stuff.
But from his first appearance, he wasn't that bad, and tended to snap right out of it and get repentant when he'd realise he actually hurt someone (emotionally). He never needed redemption.
But a lot of the fandom really, really, REALLY wanted to see him as some heinous abusive villain-type character and twisted everything he did into new heights, like pretending that the Blood Moon thing was somehow under his control and was gonna brainwash her into loving him (but somehow, it's not bad at all when she actually did get hit with the blood moon brainwash love curse for Marco), or claiming that him being a wrath demon toooottally meant that he was abusive towards Star and probably hit her or something - even though there was zero clues towards that in canon, and Star didn't act scared of him at all. Fans just really wanted to see him as the bad guy, so much they pretended he was one. Kinda like what you're doing now.
I see. And that shit about Star getting mad at Tom because she cheated on him or something is true as well? I've only seen the first episode of this season so far but I'm not sure if I want to continue anymore.
Afraid so, user.
Bullshit, he was never abusive. Words actually mean things.
>And that shit about Star getting mad at Tom because she cheated on him or something is true as well?
She got angry with him because he told his mom about it.
and chad marco comes with a chance at hot amazonian snu snu
I actually kind of secretly like that Marco actually has a growing passion for that shit. That Eric bit was gold.
I'll probably get bitched at for saying this but I feel like the "progressive approach" we're seeing here is the least offensive it could be, by which I mean to say they managed to make a gag centered around the idea that Marco actually enjoys cross-dressing and is becoming proficient at it, and it was funny while not being cringey. The show is still good, because it's using it's progressive direction as a source of humor, instead of just blasting it at you on max with tears streaming down their cheeks like in SU.
she got angry that "they didn't talk about it"
So she's getting angry at the guy she didn't communicate with for not communicating with her.
Watch Moon Remembers (Toffee seems to have affected Moon in the Realm as she recognizes Globgor as the king of monsters instead of panicking) and Swim-suit (10/10 episode)
The retarded stuff happens in the other two (skip those)
But that was the point fag, seeing Tom going to being manipulative to sadly a doormat
Oh well you're a Tomfag so it would explain, I'm pretty sure you don't see anything wrong when he lied to Marco to get a anger pass medal or when he kidnapped Marco.
>it's not bad at all when she actually did get hit with the blood moon brainwash love curse for Marco
The show itself barely reminds you about the blood moon, in the very end of the episode Star was still the same with Marco after the curse.
Nevertheless Tom doesn't control it. If he did, he sure as fuck wouldn't have let Star get the magical BM love ray with someone else. And him not controlling removes the whole basis from the claim that he tricked Star there so that he could brainwash her to be with him.
Unless, of course, you want to argue that the whole starco dynamic is fucked up from foundation up because they're both just brainwashed by the moon to like each other and it's all a lie, or something?
And besides, Star could have looked the Blood Moon Ball up before going. It's a huge demon culture thing and it's widely known that the Blood Moon will select a couple, that's why it's romantic and a big party. It's the main event that names the entire ball, not some nefarious super sneaky sekrit plot, ffs.
It's like
>I'll invite her to the "Romantic Kisses Under the Mistletoe Ball", and she'll never guess there's gonna be mistletoe prompting us to kiss!
Woo, so sneaky
Sure thing, thanks dude. If at all possible I'd like to avoid the retarded shipping drama and just watch the plot episodes.
Why can't Tom just have some dignity and break this off?
I guess the show needs Star to realize that SHE'S the one of fucked up this relationship (whereas seemingly Tom was the one who did that their first time around), but they could've done that in this episode if they'd just made Star not so fucking dense.
>you don't see anything wrong when he lied to Marco to get a anger pass medal or when he kidnapped Marco
But both those times he himself he'd fucked up already within the episode, immediately once someone (Marco) pointed it out to him, and straight up owned his mistake and apologized straightforwardly and did his best to make amends. Like, he even went and admitted to Star what he'd done, even though he knew it was gonna hurt his chances of ever winning her back, because it was the right thing to do.
That's not abusive behavior.
Yeah, I really wish Tom was the one to dump Star. He deserves the dignity of being the one to end it.
*he himself realized he'd fucked up
its meant for the staff. Much like Nu She-Ra is the productions fan fiction of Sher-Ra
I assure you, you are gonna love Swim-suit.
They managed to fix Eclipsa's character while still working with the MHC being a retarded bunch that should get fired (yet both factions have a point)
The fight scene was pretty well staged and fun to watch.
> If he did, he sure as fuck wouldn't have let Star get the magical BM love ray with someone else
Then Tom wouldn't have pushed Marco away from Star if he didn't care about the blood moon curse, but guess what? he got so fucking angry about the blood moon ending that Star had to stop him.
Star never cared and still doesn't.
He was fucking manipulating him (the reason for this argument) until Marco snapped and told him to slow down or Star would hate him for doing it.
Why it's so hard that to admit that your favorite character can do bad things, even people acknowledge retarded s3 Marco.
Tom was a controlling ass. That's what broke them up.
But now. Fuck this nonsense of him hand building a carriage with hand harvested wood and nails he forged himself.
That's waaay too thick.
He was making a genuine effort to try and change, even back then. He wasn't a monster, he just had anger issues and was controlling of Star. The idea of him going through so much effort to win her back actually lines up perfectly with his character- He devotes himself to this relationship, but his personal shortcomings prevent his care from showing, instead getting overshadowed by anger problems. And even in the BMB episode, some of the times he gets angry are totally warranted. Wouldn't you be mad if some kid chopped your hand off, or danced with your date? I sure would be.
>And him not controlling removes the whole basis from the claim that he tricked Star there so that he could brainwash her to be with him.
I guess that's true.
>because they're both just brainwashed by the moon to like each other and it's all a lie
Again we have no clue. Did the BM curse affect Star and Marco very deeply, and all their actions happened because of it; or they liked each other romantically regardless of the curse? A lot of it hangs on what will be in the Curse of The Blood Moon episode.
>And besides, Star could have looked the Blood Moon Ball up before going.
Star heard the same explanation we did at the ball. She was visibly confused by the whole 'binding them together for eternity' thing. I don't think she understood what was going on exactly. Neither do we.
>MFW my theory is gaining traction
There's a joke where a pull-string doll has that as one of its voice lines.
For the chance of
He did and instead it's making him submissive, somehow worse than dog Marco.
this
Not gonna disagree with you here. His devotion to their relationship is his shortcoming. He's willing to give anything just to keep it afloat. He thinks that without it, he wont be happy, and will be left without a purpose. He's a beta and a cuck, but still worthy of pity.