Calarts getting BTFO

>Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity, as those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
Yeah, just let people with no academic achievement and no money in, what could go wrong?

No, I am entirely serious, they've got to be better than the graduates they're churning out now.

Calarts is famous for one class of graduates who became talented Pixar creatives. And some really shitty millennial television.
It's the very definition of an over hyped institution.
Unwarranted self importance is the only phrase for them.

Tiarawhy
Glitchedpuppet
Bob's Burgers guy whose name I can't remember
Egoraptor
Lauren Zuke

So are you telling me it's time to drop stem and pose as a tranny PoC to dick around at Calarts for free amidst protestors?

>Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity, as those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
Why the fuck are these kids so fucking racist? Are they implying that people of a different culture and/or ethnicity are inherently poorer than them, and must inherently come from underprivileged backgrounds? What the fuck is their problem?

>Tiarawhy
The guy who makes MLP flash porn? What's he doing now?

Imagine paying 50k to learn how to draw the same exact bean mouth shit as everyone else.

the main criteria should honestly be artistic merit in the student's portfolio

but the whole "only minorities are poor" is bullshit when the richest in the entertainment world are jews

This, it's like going to Harvard or Yale but for cartoons, and given how hard of a field that is to break into these kids should shut the fuck up and pay or go back to making flash animations on newgrounds.

Working on a pilot for his own show. He stopped by Yea Forums a little while back. He was offered a spot on Rick and Morty IIRC but lives abroad so it couldn't quite work out at the time.

Let it crash and burn. One does not go to university for art. Law, medicine, or engineering? Sure.

Blacks endlessly whine about not having any money and having to resort to crime.
So aren't they right?

Most people that can't really afford Harvard or Yale still don't make many connections, though. Sure there are some really socially outgoing people, but Ivy League schools are day camps for the elite; they're meeting people on their level, not reaching out for poorfags.

i hope his bunny thing goes well
it looks good

Middle class white kids with a fucking saviour complex who only care about poor people if they're a minority they can patronise. I don't see them protesting to let white trash hillbillies into CalArts.

>a threat to diversity
fucking what

>I can't afford to go to Yale and get a doctorate. Oh well, not everyone is meant for higher education.

>I can't afford going to CalArts and becoming an animator at Cartoon Network. REEEEEEE THIS IS SOCIETY'S FAULT, I DESERVE THIS EDUCATION!!!!!

Really makes you think, huh?

Ironic considering every white person at CalArts is trash.

>every little shit and their mother apply to calarts because internet keep pretending it's the holy grail of animation schools
>school have limited number of seats
>increase price to regulate applicants
>WOOOOOOOOOOW WHY IS PRIVATE SCHOOL EVIL I AM POOR BUT DESERVE THE BEST
Meanwhile you can go to public school and achieve the same if not more plus have way more free time to network yourself.

>no one at any other college is complaining about tuition

Artfags are always on the hard left, so sadly, they are.

yes? Normal people plan education with their budget in mind.

You don't learn anything at calarts, you go there to get connections.

It's not the education at this point. There is tons of talent out there that is either self taught or went to other universities. It's about the industry connections. Giing to CalArts is the only way you're getting into the animation industry, which is something like godhood to millenials.

They live in a world as fictional as the shitty cartoons they churn out

Only at shit universities like Brown that has completely buckled to SJW nonsense. They have mandatory "Diversity officers" now to ensure diversity quotas are met.

why green?

what the fuck did that person eat/drink

>THIS IS YOU WHO CARES ABOUT THE THREAD THIS IS YOU YOU YOU YOU YOUUUUUUU
Fuck off, dumb cunt.

>oi m8 u got a loicense for dem blue oyes

lol that's so (you)

Who are you trying to convince with that bullshit?

Try googling "sarah lawrence college demands" for a big fucking laugh.

Just get your celebrity parents to bribe your way in.

Why didn't poor people think of that?
Dumb suckers.

Oh that! I rememner that.

Evergreen is a better example. That is at least on the 'completely buckled' side.

Calarts is a joke. Let everyone will say. You pay for connections, not to sharpen talent or find your niche. Go into debt just to try and get a job in the generic animation pipeline.

i personally welcome raised tuition. it should go over 100 000 and everyone who want attend should be tested on his jew DNA.

Not 'murrican, but is this not the whole point of student loans? I know in Bongland they can't be discriminatory about who they give student loans to, so even poorfags like me can get them.

>hard left
Please. Che and Fidel would have put these whiny entitled upper-middle class shits up against the wall. Identity politics faggots are the definition of soft.

>those from underprivileged backgrounds already have a difficult time accessing the higher education offerings at Calarts.
but that's true
being poor will fuck you over and LA is hideously expensive to live in anyway
thems just facts. why get mad?

Why does Yea Forums hate non-STEM higher education?

They do know that they can study in other places, even in other countries, right?

I know several people who work in the industry and have never gone to art school. All the recruiters care about is your portfolio. If it's great then a degree literally does not matter.

But yeah if you're a poor artist I can definitely see using those connections to get your foot in the door albeit at a huge cost (but if youre paying that much likely you have rich parents).

>student loans?
student loans may as well be an indentured servant contracts. one should avoid loans of any kind

Why not?

But to a lot of these leftist adultolescents being a "creator" and having fans is the only way to gain self-actualization.

I don't think it's that, it's just the mentality of a lot of fags studying art and animation related subjects these days - They don't actually want to learn anything because they have such high opinions of themselves and their work and can't handle criticism, then they expect to be handed a job on a plate at the end. It's like if you don't want to learn and improve and put in the effort necessary to get a decent job, what the fuck are you even doing in higher education?

t. fag studying 3D animation. I think you could count the number of people who are actually putting in the work and likely to become successful on my course in any given year on one hand. The rest are just entitled niggers who've wasted a fuckton of money.

>comparing the latinoamerican left with the burger one

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>racism
Kiss your job at (insert favorite studio) goodbye, honkey

Sorry, perhaps I should have clarified - By niggers I mean "niggers", not actual niggers. There's only one actual nigger and he's one of the most talented fucking guys here. If he can't find employment none of us will.

So basically pic related?

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College prices wouldn't even be that high if the government didn't subsidize student loans.

Thankfully our tutors are actually pretty good. They have time for you if you're willing to engage, but yeah, they will write off anyone who it's easy to see isn't actually interested pretty quick. Those students tend to be more lackadaisical than outright confrontational, they're just too self assured with no good reason to be and reality is going to hit them hard.

Where do you go user?

>you are nothing without us

drop out then

Sine I've now said nigger multiple times and insulted the majority of my classmates, gonna pass on divulging that information.

Fair enough

>Oh well, not everyone is meant for higher education.
lmao, imagine being a burger.

i'm often ashamed for not being as confident and self assured like my classmates.
they seem to have a lot more fun and an easier time aelling their ideas than ppl like me who are overly self critical

It's one of many pipelines.

At least you have a good shot at a decent return on investment from a prestigious law school

Imagine being 300k plus interest in debt just to make a measly 50k a year

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If people are self assured AND good at what they do, that's not a problem. Those sorts of people can come across as dicks, but they'll probably go places. The problem is people who are self assured when their work actually isn't all that great and either don't think they need to improve or don't put in the effort to improve, which seems to be a lot of people.

Some measure of self-criticism and the ability to see the flaws in your work is the only way anyone improves. Just don't let it be crippling, you have to accept nothing you create is ever going to be perfect.

is right, connections are becoming increasingly more accessible thanks to social media. why the hell would you buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

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What does that have to do with anything? I don't have money for a masters degree but I know im too dumb anyways. Whats wrong with knowing your place and "settling" for bachelors. The real issue is with getting a job and finding sufficient pay

calarts the art style for those looking to cheap out.

What fucking connections? If everyone goes there from nothing to find these precious connections, who has the connections? How does this connecting take place?

the teachers. the people who leave mid semester and get into the industry.

its not the only pipeline though. and attending art shows and talking to people achieves similar.

you kiss ass and party. When I was in uni, my teacher had a company and he hired people only from his students. I suspected it was his way to keep the power imbalance. finding dumb kids with rich daddy is always a win and just knowing people can pay off. Do you think its an accident that people from the same class often end up in 1 studio?

>you're paying for a 1/400 chance of getting picked up by a major network
>a chance that goes down if you're not talented and exponentially down if you're not good at brown nosing

Wow

I actually met several people in the industry after that event/job offer. A few who work on R&M have no degree (the background painter ghostbri who helped me out with bun painting in particular has no degree and blogs about getting into the industry without it).

what the fuck is going on in this video? At first i thought it was some random gore and the girl was chopped in half, but now i have no fucking idea.

I got banned from that site.

It's green because of st. Patrick's day. She drank too much green alcohol.

Because my drug lord dad wanted me to be a buisness man

What's there to lose our shit over?
Some of the best artists never went to Cal-Arts. It's a scam meant to perpetuate the nepotistic cartoon industry.
The only way it will come down is if Cal-arts ceases to be a useful place to go. With this, that might happen.

We should be celebrating. This might be the second golden age of cartoons.

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ty cultured user, here have a (you)

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Exactly why the institution needs to fail and become irrelevant. Too many influential people go there, they go there to meet the previous generation of influential people.

It would just take one generation of cartoonists never going there to break the cycle and maybe insert fresh talent in the industry.

as far as i can gather from listening to others who have been in the industry, the degree is unnecessary. your work proves you, not that bit of paper.

Yea pretty much. Plus how much money you make really does not justify the amount of money an art college costs (unless you got like a full scholarship ride).

Poster here, it's BLACK because she's dying of alcohol poisoning and that's bile she's throwing up

>$50k a year to draw fucking cartoons
>THINK OF THE MINORITIES

The white kids don't need to ride the shoulders of random blacks kids to make a point. They already have a golden point of leaving a school with $200k+ fucking debt to draw like pic related.

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People in this thread talking about connections, as if any studio worth working at would rather accept anyone based off of what school they went to as opposed to the contents of their portfolio. If you really care about connections you can get that online much easier nowadays, as many people in this thread have stated, or if you’d rather have a more in person approach there’s always conventions like CTN and Lightbox Expo, where actual creators and studios meet up and coming artists for portfolio reviews and stuff like that. Expecting to simply throw money at your problems and wanting the best possible out come is part of the problem with many artists today; they’d rather work “smarter” than harder.

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Drawing cartoons is not a higher education and should not be as valued as performing fucking surgery. Not to mention someone can become a successful artist without even setting foot in college and that cannot happen with doctors.

You think every skill should require a $50,000 per year tuition?

Latin American Leftists are more retarded than anywhere else in the world

Private art schools and/or schools that focus on humanities or other social degrees are a scam and have always been expensive as hell. If some moronic parents want to pay for it then let them.

I think that comic just hit the nail on the head not just with art school but also every shitty indie art site like Deviantart and Tumblr.

To be fair, pic related is the end result of westerners who grew up on anime thinking they can just take from it whenever they want.

It's coming along but the part i was stuck on for a long time was just the writing. I've read more books on script writing and changed a lot since.

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nice

Cool, best of luck

Better a retard than a faggot or black

How true is this?

>Wahhh, I can't afford to get into a shitty art school in a shitty state and there are literally no other options available
Imagine being this poor and entitled.
It's no wonder the graduates are so talentless.

>Glitchedpuppet
Holy shit I forgot that she was commissioned to make an official SU comic cover and her rapist OCS made a cameo in an official SU comic.
Wonder what her industry friends think of her now after all the shit she and her pedo husbands pulled.

>Latin American
Worse than niggers
>Leftist
Faggots or faggot enablers

Chicanos past 1st gen immigrants are the worst, no wonder South Americans hate them.

t. black burger

>People complain that the government should be involved in financing private education
>State subsidize educational institutions through taxpayer money
>These post-secondary institutions realize they have free funding to fund vanity projects, clubs, and projects that don't at all improve the quality of education, in order to charge more for tuition, or simply because they ca
>Taxpayers are charged more to subsidize these organizations and are FORCED to pay more through tuition
>The State of American education
Holy God, why the hell is no one stopping this? It's clearly obvious universities and colleges are scamming the American youth, and the Government is in on it.

>news is breaking that major Cartoon Network TV is at all time lows and is crashing
>Orginal animation on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and YouTube is becoming the major traffickers or animation.
>less than 5% come from Calarts

The dream is dead

>Holy God, why the hell is no one stopping this? It's clearly obvious universities and colleges are scamming the American youth, and the Government is in on it.
Stopping the program would be seen as being anti-education or racist because those grants and loan sharks are the only way a bunch of minorities can go to college or poor people can even get their foot in the door minus grants and scholarships.

So whoever does it will be seen as the biggest racist ever. Instead, they want the government to just forgive the loan and pretend it never happened or give college away for free.

What can we do? Threaten to vote our reps out of office? Good luck with that because old people hate all young people that isn't their children or grandchildren and don't care. They think all that tax money is going to benefit them which some of it is so they turn a blind eye.

So uh, did she die?

>Burger
Yes
>Black
>Implying niggers even know how to use technology

You oughta know that actually talented artists are against major schools like CalArts taking people's money. But try not to lump all art schools in with CalArts. You're making Hannah sad.

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There goes my dream... so now what? just draw and do my own animations and just do a tweeter account until someone eventually notices my talent?

You should have been drawing all along, making a portfolio for yourself.

Attend CTNX

I do have my own portfolios, I have been doing that for 2 years and a half. I guess I should continue doing my own thing.

Lmao, no. Have you ever listen to college kids speak about tuition? They're butt fucking retarded when it comes to finances.

This, it's why their grand exit strategy for college was to vote for Bernie and let him forgive their college debts.

Nah. I'm good. I'll just do my own thing from now on.

>PEOPLE GO TO CALARTS FOR THE CONNEECTIIOOONS
you guys do realize that animation studios have recruitment programs at countless art schools and universities right
i mean fuck becky “beanmouth” sugar came from SVA

These faggots could go to FZD but then they'd actually have to work hard

Yeah, but the idea is rely on nepotism in addition to or instead of talent.

If you want to go to Calarts for free-ish, just enroll for a summer course, get your ID, become friends with your teachers and the staff, and then sit in on all the spring/fall classes.

I live in Florida... Someone recommend me a good art school. FullSail is shit, I went there and it was a complete shit show. The place wasn't interesting and everything (plus the presentations) didn't amuse me. Good thing I was granted to get a tour...and it was shit.

Right Chicanos are Latin American

Still as awful as the lefties, only this time with less we wuzzing.

Calarts might not anymore, but a lot of schools are cracking down on class auditing because they don't want people getting taught for free (even if you can't get a degree by auditing)

Animation industry is full of weirdos into kiddie stuff. Since she never actually got indicted for anything, she's doing just fine.

>no one is recommending me anything

ok...

>you can make connections on social media
Yeah if you're middle class or lower. You're still locked out of the Big Boys Club if you didn't got to the right school.

Ringling?

Cal Arts was literally brought into existence by Walt Disney's own money to serve as an animator farm for his studio.

Looking that up as we speak...thanks.

gnomon

Yeah but Marl, the dude who actually invited underage girls to make beastility porn of, disappeared completely, and his apology letter was written like a suicide note, so some people are speculating he straight up died.

Still waiting for the day you fags turn on her. I know it's gonna happen soon.

Connections is always a random game as you never know who knows who. You sometimes think that the 'big boys' only associate with other big ones but smaller people sometimes slip through the cracks mostly as old friends before they got big.

I visited Calarts a couple of years ago, this flyer was posted throughout the school. Expressing tuition grievances on the walls seem to be a thing.

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Yes, a Chem MS hasn't gotten me what I expected. Don't make my STEM mistake. Be a tranny, guilt girls into fucking you, they want to be guilted.

Lmao the absolute state of california

His apology letter was faked. Glip said she “edited” it for release and Marl never posted it directly. Hell they were still living with one another after that letter was released. They all got legal name changes because someone registered their names as url’s calling them sexual predators and Marl changes to the same last name as the other two

...

This is literally commonplace for every single industry. Are you really that autistic or do you really think nepotism only exists in the animation industry?

They should raise tuition fees even more so they can give minorities a discount. Then grantee you a first in line seat if you are colored. I'd love it if they had the balls to do this.

>Normal people plan education with their budget in mind.

In an ideal world, this would be true.

In the actual world we live in, this is not even remotely true

>At least you have a good shot at a decent return on investment from a prestigious law school

Law Degrees are actually pretty worthless right now due to oversupply.

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Seems like better value than most unis.

Pretty much every degree is in oversupply, because we're trying to send nearly every damn high school student to college whether they'd benefit from the education or not. Higher education is a racket designed to slow the generation's entry into the marketplace and ensure they're already paying into the debt-profit system by the time they get there.

>People in this thread talking about connections, as if any studio worth working at would rather accept anyone based off of what school they went to as opposed to the contents of their portfolio

ITT: NEETs who don't know how hiring works

Putting out ads for jobs, filtering down to a few dozen portfolios, going through them all, and calling all those references takes a lot of time that you have to pay someone to do instead of whatever they normally would be doing.

It's way easier to ask one of your existing animators "Hey, know any animators?" and just get someone competent that you know can feel competent didn't fake their portfolio. You can even give your employees a few thousand bucks as a referral bonus. Now everyone's doing their normal jobs, you spent less money as a boss, and one of your employees is less likely to quit.

Connections aren't "Wow, you went to prestigious school!", they're "Oh hey, we did a group project in Mr. Walker's class, this guy's great!".

You can go to the best animation schools in Canada at international student prices and wind up with a job in the industry for less than going to CalArts.

Right because Canada has socialized their entertainment industry. Good for the people looking for work, but the overall quality suffers.

Who says anything about the Canadian industry? Do you know how many Sheridan grads there are in Hollywood?

And CalArts gives you the opportunity to have the best friend of the guy who reviews the portfolios put it in that guy's hands, and taught you how to really tickle that guy's pickle.

Faculty and alumni? How fucking poor are you and your family if you don't understand the concept of networking?

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Kek

>give me like 5 examples
I'll give you Rebecca Sugar and you'll shut up

He's right though, you can learn anything in art school on your own or cheap ateliers. You go to art school for connections.

This is true for most professions but art especially.

Spoiled kids realizing they're spoiled.

It's happening at campuses across the nation, what with protests over grades, and even having to take tests in the first place.

They want everyone to be equal, but equal at the top.

>ALL ANIMATORS ARE EQUAL.
>SOME ANIMATORS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

If you're not willing to go 50k in debt to get into the industry you love then you don't love it to begin with. Maybe you should stick to that stem degree then. *shrugs*

Not anymore. A lot of the businesses that the school normally sends its students to after they graduate, are moving to Toronto.

>Yea Forums complains about Cal Arts and the animation industry in general being too homogeneous and full of rich kids
>Cal Arts students try to address this
>Yea Forums freaks out

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>paying $50,000 to learn how to draw beanmouth

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>having to get an expensive degree to be an animator

It's pretty hilarious to me considering all my favorite animators were fucking dirt poor in sweatshops and literally lived in closets while they animated my favorite series.

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>but the whole "only minorities are poor" is bullshit when the richest in the entertainment world are jews
Who even mentioned jews? This is your brain on /pol/.

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That's how it works in IT. I got hired straight out of college and they asked if I knew anyone else because they still had positions to fill. I reached out to the handful of guys I knew who weren't completely worthless in group projects and set them up with interviews.

RIP Brown University

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Here's an interesrting tweet thread
twitter.com/Cuppatan/status/1107029077951578112?s=09

there are people in tumblr and NG that are better artists that most CalArts graduates, people literally go there to network and suck dick. You'd figure with the rise of social media that would be a thing of the past, but I guess the prestige of "i went to a pricey as fuck school" still remains, which is why a literal scam corruption ring is thriving in a lot of Unis, and it's only gaining attention now.

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wow this entire thing is a sham

Like 99% of higher education is a scam that only exists to try and get the same advantages as people who can rely on nepotism.

>learn to code like a good goy.

They'd probably have more money for college if they didn't take out billboard ads

Don't you need to be competent with 3D tools these days too ? They might have an excuse if they're buying ridiculously overpriced software for lighting,3D design and such.

Then again I paid 3k a year for my degree and we used equipment which cost more than the building it was stored in.

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>must inherently come from underprivileged backgrounds
Ever heard of slavery?

yale probably has more scholarships and a better chance of a higher paying job

>international students shouldn't pay more
el
oh
el

riding the SJW bandwagon.
Sure, minorities are poorer, but come on. we're talking about a 4% increase here, not 40. Calarts has been overpriced for decades, if black kids can't afford it now they couldn't afford it then either.

>“International Students Shouldn’t Pay More,”
How to make 100% of your campus chinese in one easy step

>A gajillion ways to learn how to be an artist for free on the internet
>REEEEE TUITION IS TOO MUCH LET ME IN

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We should've fucking banned art long, long ago. The muslims know what's up, they don't allow depictions of Allah which is why they are a strong united conservative front.

>PAY
>MY
>FEES
>FOR
>ME

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HOW!? SJSU only charges about $3500 a semester for my industry tech major!?

>Cal Arts students try to address this
No, they're just bitching about having to pay more than their rich dads will allow. They aren't protesting for allowing more diverse artstyles or trying to break the mold, they just want beanmouth to cost less.

Just think about it. Evolutionary psychologists speculate that drawfags painting on cave walls were in fact the massive autists of their time. Likely disruptive to the cave community with their vandalism. And let's think about graffiti. Graffiti is by its core vandalism. But why stop there really, if you are vandalizing a wall how is it different to vandalizing a mind with images drawn on paper or digitally? And let's not forget, Yea Forums is literally the most tumblr board on Yea Forums.
The simple truth gentlemen is that a strong nation needs to remove its so-called "artists". Incarcerate and executed for vandalism. If America is to become great again the first step should be the outlawing of art, drawings, cartoons and comics. Then, Yea Forums can be discerned as being illegal under the United States law and removed from the site. And the purity of Yea Forums will be restored.
Drawings are WRONG.

Why don't they just become engineers? The tuition is way lower and you're more likely to get a job that pays more.

Calarts got away with it because of name brand recognition and by categorizing themselves as a high specialization vocational school. You also forget that it's in L fucking A where everything is expensive as all fuck to begin with. No shit it'll be a premium to attend, but these people go in anyways because they get told this is the only place to go if they want to have a future.

Arts spergs are incapable of doing STEM.

>yale
Haven't been keeping up with the news have you? They're one of the schools under investigation for receiving bribes from rich families to get their idiot kids enrolled.

>people with no money bad
Oh gee thanks Becky. We will send the fbi back over

What's the point of money and richness and wealth if you can't bribe people with it? The government is as always putting their interference where it doesn't belong. By trying to shut down these briberies they are removing the motivation for being successful and rich. They're basically COMMUNISTS!

So like all schools?

There's no such a thing as "Calarts style", this is a retared meme. Calarts teaches different styles of drawing. Tim Burton, Brad Bird, John Lasseter etc were Calarts students.
Pretty much everyone at Pixar is from Calarts.

Well yeah, Africa is a pretty underprivileged background.

Why can't these people just do STEM to sustain themselves and practice their art craft in their spare time? Build your portfolio online get a following going, lots of artists are doing it.

>Imagine paying that much to get worse at drawing lmao

fpbp holy shit.

Because If you are the kind of person that has any qualifications, any qualifications at all, you wouldn't be a sperg trying to make money with fucking doodles.
You can't eat doodles, they don't improve the industry, they don't contribute anything to society. Artsfaggots are parasites not unlike musiccunts and other bloody stupid idiots. They are nowhere near as important and worthy of their pay than the single most productive profession in America, the lawyer, whose job is to ensure that the great nation can survive against criminal parasites and communists by upholding the constitution.

Imagine going to an expensive art school to draw even worse lmao

Yank student loans are a horrific nightmare. I would not wish them on my worst enemy. Even complete destitution and legal bankruptcy cannot stop student loan debts. Dying will not end the loans; they make you find guaranteeors so your parents can be saddled with the debts instead

>why the hell is no one stopping this?
>the Government is in on it.
Why do you answer your own questions?
Americucks are utterly powerless against their own government. The two parties have spent generations making sure of that.

Rich Chinese aren't frugal. They'll blow any amount of money to get ahead.

I hate to see what your philosophy on industrial design is.

>who even has 50,850??
the parents who put them in such a shit college

They're a weird mix of lavish and stingy. The chinese in the VIP room of the casino I worked at would gamble hundreds or thousands every hand
Then they would load their bags with free bottles of water and I've seen some of them at soup kitchens getting free soup.

American college is general is just a gigantic scam.

Fact: Whites are the only race that consider "Jews" a separate race from themselves.

I mean, hey
free water and soup
would you turn down something for free just because you could buy it?

Damn, you'd expect the school in Silicon Valley to cost an arm and aleg

Well, yeah, particularly in regards to the soup. I volunteered at those soup kitchens. We didn't have an unlimited amount of soup, some people went hungry cause rich people wanted a free meal.

What's a "CDA class"?

imma just leave this here

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>just let people with no academic achievement and no money in
As opposed to no academic achievement and lots of money?
It's baffling how americans are ok with corruption. And then they wonder why CalArts style is so shit.

That explains rcdart

>tfw yasss style develops

lol, holy shit.
are there any recent pics from inside the school?

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>a more visible commitment to diversity. Affected students pointed to the tuition increase as a threat to diversity

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If I recall correctly, rcdart complained the dorms at Calarts smelled like piss, seems like they weren’t lying.

>learning to doodle from a prestigious but overrated institution is a luxury
Stop the fucking presses. I mean I'm all for cheap/free education but let's be real here, making Calarts cheap is way down the line of priorities.

except we know it happens without the schooling because people from the industry will often say they never had any schooling.

> HOW?

(((subversion)))

when it comes to animation, the simpler the better

>amerilads still have no free high education
Even my ass backwards shithole manages to pull it off. Why does USA sucks so many dicks?

You can get high education for free in real countries if you are not retatd.

>higher education offerings at Calarts

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Just your daily reminder that liberalism is a mental illness.

And your friendly reminder that the American definition of liberalism doesn't actually mean anything

you mean socialism user

This desu.
America is overdue an absolute monarchy.

this but half ironically

like DNA tests singling out the chads of society just for being better at reproduction

Talking about socialism in America means talking about Hollywood, Silicon Valley, California. i.e. rich snobs doing snobbish things.

>The American Empress
there's no way an anime hasn't done this

When people talk about wealth not lasting past three generations, this is what they're talking about

Why is the American education so expensive?

To incentivize having money, poorcunt. Have sex.

As is conservatism.

Pixar has a bunch of Texans from TAMU though. Unless you're talking about the more important roles like Director.

What is the main character look like a JoJo?

that sounds even worse than most community colleges

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I love it when both sides of an issue are fucking laughably wrong (though as always the whiny idiot lefties are wronger) but the actual problem is that the thing being complained about is run by crooks
and neither side's solution is going to fix that.

What horrible examples LMAO
>Tiarawhy
was offered a job on R&M but declines, still does horsefucker porn
>Glitchedpuppet/PK
Do I even need to go into this
>Egoraptor
Was at Fox ADHD for like a year until he got sick of it and did Game Grumps
>Lauren Zuke
kicked off SJW cartoon and was caught grooming an underage child

Why did you post a cat reacting to a bad fart?

>It's baffling how americans are ok with corruption
Right? They think of Oxford and Cambridge as palaces of elitism but those ditched preference for the relatives of former students back in the 60s. For Americans it's *expected* that the relatives of former students get preferential treatment.

Yeah but Sugar started out on two CalArts alumni projects; Adventure Time and Hotel Transylvania.

That poor blendy bastard doesn’t even realize he’s going to have his body torn asunder and sold for parts

>Pretty much everyone at Pixar is from Calarts.
>a 3rd are from TAMU
>about a 3rd is varrious/non affiliated
>everyone

>Tim Burton, Brad Bird, John Lasseter etc were Calarts students.
You had to go back 40 years to make this point lmao

this, anyone that makes it into the industry will tell you to avoid it like the plague

doing it as a dedicated hobby on top of a career gives you the best of both worlds, you're creating your own shit instead of wageslaving away on some project you couldn't give less of a fuck about for upward to 16 hours a day

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If rich people were doing something wrong they wouldn't be rich.
America is the land of the free, anything that trespasses on the fact that wealth equals merit is unconstitutional.

>Your
It's "You're," you bumbling, CalArts shill. They can't teach you bastards how to draw nor how to write correctly.

>4.5% tuition increase
so it was basically 50k already

>Student protesters carried signs that read “You Are Nothing Without Us,”

Oh yes,

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No you can't because you pay for it every day of your life via taxes

>be texan
>go to tamu
>get job offers from pixar and powerhouse
Feels good, a bunch of animators at PH didn't even go to art school.

As opposed to the US where you have to pay dozens of thousands on top of your taxes?

Money was a mistake.

>some people went hungry cause rich people wanted a free meal.
What the fuck

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>implying that the tax rate is the same

Can either of you translate this into english?

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and the kicker is TAMU is way cheaper and much easier to get accepted into

>average income
>not median
>doesn't account for state/local taxes or non-income taxes
hmm

I haven't an inch of sympathy. We don't need artists now. We need engineers, chemists, and medical professionals.

It's already ludicrously expensive to get a real degree, and most actually talented artists make their way via Patreon or selling their works on the gallery market.

Fuck them. Fuck them all.

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Are you willing to give up all your entertainment? Never look at a drawing, read a comic, watch a TV show or movie, listen to a song, or anything else ever again?

Yes. And remove those boards from this site.
Now is the dawn of the age of /pol/, /biz/ and /k/.

it would do wonders for productivity

>He thinks I've actually watched television in the last four years.

Look at this man. Look at this man and laugh. Digital distribution killed your sacred dodos, Cletus. I get people will bitch and moan that the pretentious animation studios they love to hate on will suffer, but...fuck 'em. There's always going to be talented artists, writers, musicians, etc. Now the useless chaff gets cut away. And thank fuck for that.

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its already mostly asian and whites

theres no black people at cal arts

Extremely true. I quit getting an arts degree after the first semester. Everyone is a self-entitled asshole with no talent.
You don't need a degree to do art. You can learn it yourself and get commissioned if you're any good at it.
This is why I got a degree in accounting and now do art in my free time

>people whine about some communism/third world boogeyman that would make everyone spend their entire lives toiling away at some job that they don't want to do
>they then turn around and say that everyone should do such and such particular job regardless of whether they want to or not, and that also no entertainment should exist so that they spend all of their time doing said job

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>working on own show
>did official SU products and completely got away with trying to solicit child porn
>still gets voice work on shows
I’ll give you Zuke but she still proved you don’t need calarts to get a job. You just need to be sane to keep it.

>pay 50K to "connections" and be taught that your art will always be shit because of budget
So Yea Forums, wanna know why Yea Forums keeps shoving their shows down your throat?

"Gee mister, you sure are right about what my argument is."

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thanks for leading me to this

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Whatever happened to this bitch? Is she working?

The correlation between calarts and jobs is even worse for the showrunners ... you're better off marrying a jewish. Though that suddenly makes wasting 200k$ not look so bad.

Makes sense. They draw ugly fat naked people for a living.

let the gooks do it, they are genetically predisposed to draw good, who needs cartoons anyway when you have anime?

>Japan burns itself out trying to meet America's demand for animation.
>Starts outsourcing jobs to America

>>they then turn around and say that everyone should do such and such particular job regardless of whether they want to or not, and that also no entertainment should exist so that they spend all of their time doing said job
Of course.
You are indebted to the nation. You do not exist without America and the elite. You work for them. You toil for them. You live by their will alone. You are not you. You are us. There is no you. Only the nation.

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>People only now are realizing you're not paying for an education, but for the name of the school to be on your resume to get through the automated resume sorting algorithms

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kek fpbp indeed

>defending the school
>not shitting on the Disney-led nepotism culture that made it so that such a disproportionate amount of creative freedom goes to alumni of a single fucking institution

Why would anyone in their right mind shit on Disney? We're literally 5 years tops from them taking over the country, do you REALLY want to be on the wrong side of history when the camps open?

Now you made me start picturing Jim Crow-style water fountains for Calarts students vs those at other art schools.

It's hilarious as fuck until I realized that if Disney if Disney got the power to make it come true they totally would.

>dying will not end the loans
Is this true? If so my mom fucked me over with 100k when she dies

I'm pretty sure debt can't be passed on unless you were in some way a party to it, like being a guarantor for the loan.

Isn't student debt repayment income based in the US now though, like it always was in all the sane countries?

what do they learn? despite the fact that mega corps only make 3d shit and all 2d cartoons are outsourced to korea

how to storyboard for 3d animations? the industry doesnt require traditional techniques in practice.

Well you guys have finally up and done it. I've been convinced. thanks to this thread, I am no longer going to Calarts, even though I was accepted. My immediate dream is to create an animated show of quality, and I figured Calarts was my safest bet, considering its past reputation. However, with the money, the dying light of traditional media, and the emergence of new methods of networking, I'm sold that making my own way would be a better fit for myself, and would yield a more dignified result. Best case scenario now would be to grind online, and get myself in the position of pitching a show to netflix, or a at least a studio that'll give me free reign to make a high budget dumbland ripoff. Worst case scenario is I'll be a janitor making art in my single apartment for the rest of my life, which wouldn't be that bad to be honest. So now I've just gotta disappoint my parents even further. Thanks guys.

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Fuck off faggot and take youre creativifuckity with you. The world needs engineers and lawyers not artists. Get a doctorate and start pulling your weight for the corporate overlords before we fucking evict you from the greatest country on Earth, the land of the free!

Just tell your parents you're putting off college to try and freelance/work first. That's something a parent would be proud of.

Do you honestly think 3D animation doesn't need storyboards?

Even engineers and lawyers need designers.

Not ART designers, retard. Nothing functional in engineering requires creativity, only the application of technical expertise and mathematics. And lawyers certainly don't need designers of any kind.

There's no reason not to study, but there's no way on God's green earth you should be forking over $50k a year for it. Tuition fees are capped at £9k a year here in Bongland, and even that's pretty fucking ridiculous. Hell, you could probably go study in mainland Europe and pay even less.

Let him rot. Anyone posting on a COMICS AND CARTOONS board that artists are a waste of space is clearly trolling.

It's a good thing I don't live there anyway, burgerfaggot. Plus the economy needs people to do low income jobs to function, so a janitor is still someone we need, or a 'corporate weight puller' as you say. (that is until the robots.)

You're right, and I was going to tell them that anyway. I just wanted to make the text dump to end on a little joke.

Drafting the blueprints and inventing new functional items is still creativity. Even deciding on how the mathematics, logistics, and how all that other shit works, counts as creativity.

>going to an animation school
Idiot move. We live in an age of crowd funding and digital distribution. If you have talent you start a patreon or whatever, make your shit and let money roll in. If your shit is good enough the industry will beat a path to your door. It's not surprising that morons doing it the traditional way are salty, sitting outside disneyland with their begging bowls in hand. While some guy with no education is making 10k a month making crappy flash animations.

I'll probably go to a more minor college for a bit, and self teach the shit out of myself afterward. But yeah, that shit would've been BRUTAL. I'm not even quite middle class.

You can't learn everything from books and youtube tutorials, especially with 3D where the software changes every fucking year and all the books immediately go out of date. At good colleges, tutors have industry experience and keep themselves up to date with the software. The whole idea of education is to learn and improve and benefit from your tutors' experience, theirs and the school's industry connections and to work on collaborative projects to briefs with other people the way it actually works in industry. That's very fucking difficult to do sat alone in your basement.

What if you send out emails to those with experience to give you advice on your situation & portfolio?

youre not even going to make that amount per annual lmao why do they think creative arts is worth that price? I keep wishing I chose something else, the industry blows ass.

im saying that
storyboarding doesnt require high skills of drawing or filming. a bunch of japanese web drawfags are just doing it well without learning it in school.

i mean today in the west traditional techniques are useless in animations. why do they learn it? if only storyboarding matters, they dont really need to go to calarts to learn "animation"

doesnt include taxes and living expenses. It's a shit lifestyle and fuck social media for promoting it.

The sad truth is even this is becoming less common as America either outsources or automates everything. Even the moneyed elite or genuinely talented people making connections don't matter if no industries even exist anymore. Which is where things are going. U.S. is hollowed out except for low paid service sector jobs and a few people at the very top who were in long ago doing the outsourcing and automating. One reason even the very wealthy but not ultra-billionaires are panicking and bribing people even more if they have kids. The party is ending. While things are good in a few pockets right now (tech, health care) as everything else goes to be honest I don't see even those sticking around in the long run. I have no idea what will happen. Political instability and people trying to escape to other countries I guess.

Connections and education mean fuck all if there's no job at the end of it. We're not living in Star Trek, the goal of education is not the joy of learning, the goal of education is to get a fucking job. Basement grognard has a job, calarts graduates have an a4 sheet of toilet paper.

Wrong, it absolutely does. You need to know a lot in order to do things fast for other areas of the industry that have been cut or that executives aren't willing to pay for.
Backgrounds, layout and even character designs are more often than not established by storyboarders, not to mention needing to know cinematic language. With the rise of the digital workflow it has also pushed boarders to work more for less.
It's shit.

meant for

Over 99 times out of 100, creative arts is only worth doing at all for your own personal enjoyment, not something that will make money. If you want a job there's certain kinds of engineering and being a doctor or a nurse. That's pretty much it.

no. its more of a technique of film. have you ever seen ekontes of tomino or oshii. both fucking suck at drawing, they simply cant draw, but can do it because of the knowledge of film techniques. also both didnt learn animation in school.

or what cartoons are doing "storyboard" actually? all of american cartoons move like shit, they are far from traditional films they are fucking stiff as shit. or a rip off of anime e-kontes, which nobody can learn in any american school.

But I go to brown and that’s actually bullshit. Yale is way further down the liberal rabbit hole.

>Plus the economy needs people to do low income jobs to function, so a janitor is still someone we need
I used to think this way too and trade schools are the way of the future, etc. until I learned that shifting everything over to service sector is actually an existential threat because these jobs (and even health care jobs or lawyer jobs), unlike manufacturing, for example, don't bring money into the country. They just move money around. For a while, America has been saved by having vested brands, copyright etc. and making innovative shit then outsourcing everything else worked.
But as you might have noticed, other countries are now capable of either developing that shit on their own or, if you want to be cynical about it, outright stealing or reverse engineering shit. The rest of the world doesn't give a shit about "respecting" some intellectual copyright like America didn't give a shit about using their kids as slave labor, they just want the shit. And those other people would rather work for their own countrymen at the very top, not Americans. So what is America going to do when its shit gets copied by other countries' companies and produced wholly outside of its borders, start lobbing nukes around? It could, but probably not.

This isn't even mentioning the incoming return of mercenaries as the military status quo. Or the fact that we've calculated that we literally can't keep paying social security anymore with the incoming recession.

America's going to turn into a really ugly place in the next couple of decades.

And Ottawa.

honestly, this. kids for the most part don't get that you have to make a lot of sacrifices and pay your dues to get into your chosen profession, unless your chosen profession is mcdonalds or some shit.

>I can't come up with anything better than correcting your grammar to feel smart

Have sex.

Pretty much. I think even the richest know that if (or probably when) things go down, a lot of them probably aren't going to make it to their doomsday bunkers alive. It's a ticking time bomb.

fuck off with that toxic bullshit, cartoons should be valued differently. Being an artists or in the creative field is still a craft, it's not something that a joe blo can do justice.
Pick up a pencil and draw a picture, then draw that same picture over 200 times with slight changes.
Hard? Yes.
People like you make this fucking skill valueless because you're greedy.

>the goal of education is not the joy of learning, the goal of education is to get a fucking job
I think it's both. If you actually get your shit together while at college you'll come out both better at what you do AND employed. Point was made regarding higher education in general, not exclusively in regards to CalArts, which I think is both stupidly expensive and highly overrated.

>unconstitutional
The white mans ghost dance.

You're going to be waiting a while.

God I wish that was me.

What's with all the stemfags, weebs, and lawfags itt?

What really? Are there pics/scans of this?

Doesn't it mean libertarian capitalism + globalism under a veener of fake progressiveness?

crazy conservatives and liberal lunatics

Say, what does Yea Forums think of CDA?

Don't americans have some fucked up college fees in general? Like, what's the yearly cost for a respected/popular university on average? Are there programs to aid students that don't come from rich families?

Respected unis can cost millions to go to and are specifically for the privileged elite. Brown, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, those are for the blue bloods of the world.
>are there programs?
Yes but it's for shockingly low amounts of the population and minority charity cases.
Fees for popular schools that are for the plebeians of the middle class is something like 1 mill total, and you'll spend decades paying it off.

That's kinda sad to hear. Like, i only paid something like 364€ for this year's subscription, and the university in question is considered one of the best in the country didactics-wise

Is there no movement of sorts to change such economic roadblocks? Sounds like the type of thing politicians would latch onto to get votes and stuff

calarts always wasn't a very practical idea, unless you had money or didn't mind going into debt to maybe be a storyboarder

you idiots don't even know what student work at calarts looks like, you look at a couple images and, most importantly, rcdart and think that means everything

They mad mad mad cuz they bad bad bad

> lawyers

now that`s an even more useless job. You`re being paid to bullshit your way through stupid bureaucracy.

>Fees for popular schools that are for the plebeians of the middle class is something like 1 mill total
I suspected that to be bullshit, and one quick google confirmed my suspicions.
>According to a 2018 publication by the U.S. Department of Education, as of the 2015-16 academic year, the annual price for undergraduate tuition including fees, room, and board was estimated to be $16,757 at public institutions and $43,065 for private institutions.
That's nowhere near a million for the average four-year degree, even at the upper end of the scale. Still expensive, but not as cripplingly as you make out.

you'll be fine if you cultivate your networking and social skills on top of your art. There's just as many resources online for learning the former two as there are for art itself.

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Sexual Lobster also got a paid gig.

Really, where at? I was wondering why his output dropped to almost nada.

According to his latest video, he's been working on some kid show in Australia called Bluey, for the ABC (not the American ABC, you yanks).
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What about Hitler?

Oh im glad to hear he got something major.

This thread is making me feel weird, like a loved one encouraging me. I've always had ideas and I love using creative outlets. You guys are making me think I have a realistic chance to make something of my hobby if I roll up my sleeves and work hard.

Not him but I'd love to look up said resources about social skills and networking.

>Art Student that scapegoated a group of people for all his problems based on perceived privileges

On the other hand, you could take away the lesson that simply humoring someone's shitty art could prevent fifty million deaths.

If only somebody had the balls to protest Calarts with "Hitler couldn't afford Art School either" in Cali lmao

>went to a technical college for animation degree
>interned for Sony Animation
>now works at Disney
I don't get why people don't see technical or community colleges as a viable option

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex had the American Empire in a few episodes. America split into 3 after WW4 iirc

shh...

Cause high school councelors and parents all have it in their minds to yell at kids that if they dont go to a "good" college they will fail at life and work at mcdonalds.

The creator of that shitty thundercats show didn’t go to CalArts. You just undermined your own fucking point

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you seriously type like this,

suda probably didnt learn anything about games in school lol
he has a strange profile.

the west lacks such a talent sadly. fresh and weird stuff never come from academia.

>"Stop oppressing students"
These people are a joke. I don't like calarts,but have they ever thought for a minute that they could just not attend the place?

Nobody on Yea Forums has anykind of education at all or friends, so how would they know about any of this?

>paying money to beg for a job
Learn to code

Have these people considered going to a smaller school, and then going to a smaller employer that pays less, but is more likely to hire, rather than have unrealistic goals, and then end up at starbucks?

You dont have to have gone to CalArts to draw in the CalArts style. The same way you don't have to be Japanese to draw Anime or French to draw ligne claire. You faggot

No shit other countries want new technologies, it's called humanity and free trade nigger. If other developing countries with low skilled workers stop manufacturing shit for us, prices for everything will fucking skyrocket. Obviously countries like China want shit for themselves, but at the moment, America is still a huge buyer. There's no reason to be all purist and say we need everything to be made in america, even though that'll only hurt the consumer.
And of course money primarily just moves around in a country, with the exception of bank loans and resources, that's how an ideal and relatively isolated country/economy in this current day and age fucking functions. We just want goods and services from countries that can provide them that we don't already have, or are unwilling to produce by exploiting a legion of low iq workers. And it's probably for the best that the population itself isn't an actual shithole, but you may beg to differ, so I don't fucking know.

you should apply to goeblins mate

As an animator who works online: you're making the right choice. The debt from calarts you'll never pay off with the salary in USA (all the animation jobs are in Canada, USA in california are all animatic/storyboard/design shit).

Even hirsch is shitting on calarts

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Gotta dream big if you wanna' get paid big. It's what my teachers told me in art school.

pottery

"Notable artists in the animation industry who have attended Calarts include Brad Bird, John Lasseter, Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter, Glen Keane, Genndy Tartakovsky, Mark Andrews, Craig McCracken, Tim Burton, Peter Chung, Peter Sohn, Henry Selick, Alex Hirsch, Pete Browngardt, Tom McGrath, Chris Buck, Brenda Chapman, Jorge Gutierrez, Pen Ward, Conrad Vernon, Gary Trousdale, John Musker, J. G. Quintel, Thurop Van Orman, Ralph Eggleston, Stephen Hillenburg, Chris Sanders, Butch Hartman, and Mark Osborne, to name a few."
>"just to name a few"
fuck this, animations a rigged game

What about being paid decent, with a decent chance of actually achieving said goal? As opposed to dreaming big and falling hard?

You'll make more money doing animated porn whether 2d/3d/sfm than every single animator in california/canada, for real. Furthermore I know many animators who work in the industry who animate porn on the side to pay the bills and not be welfare level.

The hilarious thing is, the government these idiots love so much is exactly why colleges are so expensive.

He's a pissed off artist who didn't make it. Might've been one of those types who yells at the world and aggressively convinced himself to change careers.

They live in a sheltered bubble. They don't know what real oppression is and they've been brainwashed by the universities.

People in Muslim countries consume and make art (IE, calligraphy, among other things), that's not unique to any one section of humanity. There's just a stipulation in Sunni and certain Shia sects that it's in bad taste to portray God in art as having a physical form. I'm not saying the religious conservatives who insist on maintaining that tradition are right, but it's much more complex than just "lol they dont believe in art." As it turns out, making nebulous generalizations about a huge demographic of people makes you sound like a myopic idiot because nothing in life is that simple. Iran is a super conservative country but people put Mohammad's face on postcards.

>using there real name
based

It's not exclusive to art. My computer engineering friend says the vast majority of people in all his STEM classes have been dipshits who are just waiting it out not because they're passionate about computer engineering but because they want a good job right out of the gate. I've noticed a similar attitude with people studying psychology and business. College education in general elicits a mercenary attitude in people.

Of what?

>a group (singular)
>of people
Neither of those statements is true and the fact that you believe that sickens me to no end. Read a book nigger.

There's not enough room left in my heart for CalArts hate. Like, I get that this style of animation has been in vogue for the past decade and that it's gotten a little played-out, but this is not something I'm going to lose sleep over. Styles come and go. When a popular artistic trend reaches a certain level of cultural saturation, a desire grows for something new, whereupon a novel new trend emerges and gradually supplants the previous one. You're all pulling your hair out over a phenomenon that is not new in any way. I'll bet even money that in twenty-some years, people will still be bemoaning the current state of animation only they'll be crying about the halcyon days of the 2010's. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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hey cocaine aint cheap kids

dont got to art school. it aint worth it

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Unironically this desu.

>literally GIBS ME DAT

I regularly browse and post on Yea Forums, and I am currently in college, am I an outlier or something?

The 10s will probably be as well-regarded as the 60s and 70s. Some weird nostalgia here and there but overall acknowledged as cheap crap even by people who like it.

The upper class has convinced the workers to fight against each other rather than unite against them.

This reeks of “fuck how do we get pity points? I KNOW MAKE IT ABOUT DIVERSITY HAHA THEY WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO US THEN!!!!” lmao

That would've been valuable pre-internet.
Nowadays it's a free ball.

Well technically I'm also studying on a higher education institute; I just have never stepped foot in said institute. You're not special.

You realize that liberals also think they’re fighting against the government right? Both sides are so fucking delusional

They're expensive because rich people want to be richer.

They'll go after the moms estate to pay back the debt

You'd get some valuable insight from CDA courses if you have zero connections or info on the industry. But it's not going to land you work, like every other art school shilling itself, if that's what you're asking.

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You have to be under a certain age and be a French citizen

There's an exchange program but it's only for...CalArts students.

>he thinks college is about 'networking'

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Just imagine if Cakeinferno didn't have to outsource his rendering to volunteers and made literally anything other than vore.
He's the only native 4k SFM porn artist I'm aware of.

You have to be mentally ill to want be an animator in this day and age

The whole industry is fucked worldwide

>American education/tuition system

What kind of gangsters run your institutions?

Why are your tuitions so high, when you keep slipping down in terms of literacy?

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BAD GO- oh wait Alex is Jewish too

>There's an exchange program but it's only for...CalArts students.

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We're in a race right now to see which one hits bottom first. Our prison system or our educational system.

The government got involved in tuition, but not in the useful way (making it free and subsidizing the cost) but in the bad way (guaranteeing loans and making it more expensive for students).

Fortunately a lot of state politicians are beginning to tell the federal government to cut the shit. Where I live, citizens have a right two a free Associate's Degree if they graduated high school in my state. That's the two-year degree. And the state's public universities must accept that associate's degree if you transfer for a full degree. That means, if you graduate from high school in my state, you get a 2-year degree for free (if you choose) and guaranteed admission to finish the last 2 years of your 4-year degree. If you commute, you're looking at $16k tuition total for those two years, which isn't too bad.

But coastfriends like going to posh private universities because they want to "make it" and those are unhindered by local college affordance measures.

only one I can think of is the guy that made the proud family

>a right two
a right to lol

>Why are your tuitions so high, when you keep slipping down in terms of literacy?
Because if colleges actually got better then they wouldn't need government grants.

Instead they do a bunch of useless shit and expand bureaucracy.same as anything else.

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>What kind of gangsters run your institutions?
Capitalists

>At good colleges, tutors have industry experience and keep themselves up to date with the software

This is college brainwashing propaganda

Did you just call my girlfriend a cow?

Debatable, I've worked with people who have no other education on their resumes but they had strong portfolios so

>The government got involved in tuition, but not in the useful way (making it free and subsidizing the cost) but in the bad way (guaranteeing loans and making it more expensive for students).
Haha holy shit.
America might be literally one of the only two countries in the world where the government is literally only there to expedite all wealth travelling upstream. That's hilarious.

>What kind of gangsters run your institutions?
>Capitalists
It wasn't capitalism that fucked our tuitions, it was government intervention aka socialism, the opposite of the free market capitalists wants, that fucked us.

The entirety of California should be ejected from the Union.

Do you guys have any good tutorials to learn the calarts style for nothing?

>Draw a big circle with a curve at the top
>Draw a big bean sideways with big lines drawn on it
>Make some dark circles with another circle for eyes
>Put in some bushy eyebrows
>Make the body kind of pudgy with hand son hips
and voila, CalArts style for free instead of $50,000