Is it wrong that I feel bad for Luke Weber?

Is it wrong that I feel bad for Luke Weber?
I mean it's completely his fault that he got blacklisted from the industry, and that whole incident with EZPZ was absolutely hilarious, but he's got skill; which is currently being put towards nothing. (which again is his fault)
I mean look at his recent indiegogo.
His art is pretty damn good, but there's no way in the 9 hells is he gonna hit that goal. He just doesn't have the presence or following.
indiegogo.com/projects/forsaken-gods-comic-issue-no-1

I almost wanna tell him to just say fuck it and start drawing porn.

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There's probably a lot of talented retards out there. They're still retards though.

I can't deny that.
2 years on tumblr has taught me there is more than enough crazies who can draw out there.

So why DOESN'T he just draw porn???
Does he not know how popular the market for 2d smut is nowadays?

Maybe he keeps a hope of getting let back into the industry

Cool story, Luke.

>The book is all thumbed out and written, it merely needs to get cleaned up and polished before heading off to the printers.
This should be the requirement for all crowdfunded shit, otherwise it's a scam.

Nah I just pity the guy.
He's in a hole of his own making, and rather than trying to climb out, is puttering around in a circle at the bottom of said hole.

Agreed. Or at least something people can read. 3 Pages isn't going to convince anyone.

Who is this and what did they actually do? Cause it sounds like their book would actually ship if funded, unlike certain other indiegogo scams. Meaning shit like that old GL artist who is starting a 3rd or 4th campaign for a book that was supposed to be out last year.

What he did to get blacklisted?

What a retard. He blew his chance and unfortunately people who violently attack other people don't get second chances.

I backed the last thing he did that didn't succeed and maybe this is a more realistic goal for him. Are we going to complain that he's starting over and not sticking to the same formula?

I thought it was just that he was just a pain in the ass to work with alongside being a creep.
If he attacked people I'm pretty sure he would have been charged for assault ontop of being blacklisted.

OP here.
I'm not complaining, I just examined his presence and efforts on social media and concluded that he ain't gonna make the goal.
Which I think is sad since he's actually skilled.

Wait, so what did this guy do exactly?

He went into a fit and threated people with a box cutter among the things listed. Like you could get away with being a creep even now, get metoo and come back in a year or so.

I'm not good at explaining things. Just look up his name in the Yea Forums archive.

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>threated people with a box cutter
Google brings up nothing.
You got a source for that?

>Google brings up nothing.
ain't that the truth...

>You got a source for that?
would a collage of exhaustively compiled twitter post and Yea Forums reply screencaps be considered a credible source? cuz you know that's all we're getting...

He shidded and fartd during a staff meeting, and then tried to propose to Dana Terrace while still booty bazooka'd during said meeting

I love drama (because my own life is an empty hole), so I'll take anything.

Who?

The guy who made that ss-bait comic about a young boy wandering around the old west with a Bikini Cowboy

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I always feel a little bad when someone who has honed their craft very well manages to fuck themselves over to the point where it becomes extremely hard for them to practice their craft.

But nonetheless, he dug this hole for himself all by his lonesome, and it's going to take a lot more apologizing and trying-to-make-right before he has any hope of crawling out.

He lusted after Dana Terrace and went autismal when she didn't reciprocate and blamed it on her being seduced by Alex Hirsch instead. Later gave a tell-all interview with a YouTuber called EZPZ where he basically accused everyone in the industry of being sycophantic, STD-wridden deviants, which is true enough but he fucked himself over by just plain making up easily disproven lies about them. He then tried to recoup by throwing his lot in with the comicsgate crowd, which wound up failing because nobody gave enough of a shit about his OGN, Bikini Cowboy, to fund a reprinting of it on kickstarter.

I still think he should just draw porn for funding dosh

Damn shame too. I really enjoyed Bikini Cowboy.

I did too, but like I said, this guy dug himself a gigantic fucking hole. Spent years working his ass off to get good drawing, then acted like a total douchecanoe to everyone around him.

I do believe in redemption, but fuck, you've gotta work hard at it, and I haven't even seen so much as an acknowledgement that he did people dirty.

Damn damn shame, all that talent* left to rot on the vine.

*which he spent years refining

I still can't believe that a single artist honestly thought that siding with "the comicsgate crowd" would somehow magically pay off for them.

Funny thing is even his attachment to comicsgate was pretty half-hearted.
Nothing more than some @'s and hashtags on twitter as far as I can tell.
Dude needs a marketer.

The sad part about being a talented artist during the internet age is most of them who put their work out online gain a sizable following. Not enough to fund or propel them into instant fame but enough that it creates a bubble where they think they are good enough to make it on their own and grow their egos.

They essentially think their talent and online following is enough to sustain them or help them make it big when that's always far from the truth.

I enjoyed it too, but lets be honest, the fucking Kickstarter was shit. He was basically just trying to sell the webcomic with slightly updated art and nothing else. The guy majorly overestimated just how popular it was.

Who and what?

>Later gave a tell-all interview with a YouTuber
Why would anyone do this. Being interviewed by a reporter is open to enough career danger, but a youtuber isn't even that. They'll watch you fall on your face and see dollar signs!

Hey!!!

Or being a pedophile and get a big movie directing job back.

Seething.

I mean, maybe? If the twitter posts saying "this guy did that" were from more than one person he threatened then yeah, that's pretty rock solid. Total "I heard that people said he did this" hearsay is not reliable, and one person making a claim without support isn't a great source either. Throw two or more decent sources in there and you've got something.

>He then tried to recoup by throwing his lot in with the comicsgate crowd,
Then I'm glad he's gonna be a failure for at least the next decade.

stay in your thread mate

I am. Because it shows if you are important you will be protected against anything.

>would a collage of exhaustively compiled twitter post and Yea Forums reply screencaps be considered a credible source? cuz you know that's all we're getting...

So... nothing. And this thread already mentioned EZPZ, so less than nothing.

While I wholeheartedly believe in the presence of numerous pedophile rings within Hollywood, and that the entire state should just sink into the Pacific, I also believe in innocence until proven guilty.
And a bunch of edgy humor isn't evidence enough to prove pedophilia.
Come back when Gunn pulls a Madthad.

I mean, glancing at his twitter, he's the kind of guy that posts his own art for weeks on end, then takes a moment to go "fuck the women's march" then goes back to trying to get people excited about his work, pausing only to pipe up about the NZ shooting... but only in the context of saying "you guys shouldn't be mean to Pewdiepie tho'."

That's basically the entire twitter feed since he screwed the pooch back in Oct 2018. That... that just sends up all kinds of red flags that he's turning even more antisocial and bitter than Steve Ditko.

>but he's got skill
If what's being posted in the thread is his art, he's nothing special. I've seen so many people outside the industry with higher ability than him. You can get away with being a lunatic if you're really, really something - but this just looks like a mix of poor talent and poor personality.

I'd argue that Bikini Cowboy is worth a read. It certainly wasn't groundbreaking or anything, but he had artistic capabilities in a few areas - design, storyboarding, writing, humor, etc. Nothing phenomenal in any one area, but he could be passable at a lot of things.

Except being a decent human being; he apparently sucks at that.

>trying to objectify the subjective.
Wow, good job.

Look Luke, I'm sorry, but its possible to quantify talent.

He tried to do it as an anonymous 'inside source'. The problem is that everyone managed to guess it was him pretty much straight away. Seeing anons here put the pieces together here and outing him was pretty golden.

Art is a craft and crafts can be critiqued objectively. Otherwise, you couldn't teach someone how to draw or paint.

The sad thing is that Yea Forums used to love his work, but then he saw that shitting on CalArts is popular and jumped right on the bandwagon, thinking the time has come to exact his revenge on the industry. And it backfired fucking spectacularly. If only he kept his mouth shut and made more content instead.

For real.
Lot of bitterness.

>The sad thing is that Yea Forums used to love his work, but then he saw that shitting on CalArts is popular and jumped right on the bandwagon, thinking the time has come to exact his revenge on the industry. And it backfired fucking spectacularly. If only he kept his mouth shut and made more content instead.
this is the only takeaway from this thread.

and since Luke is too busy stealth bumping the thread fishing for sympathy points to bother with fessing up to exactly what kind of asshole he might be, let's move on to other, more productive nutjob artists.

>the entire state should just sink into the Pacific
I've been led to believe for years that, a large chunk of California is dedicated to hating the more famous parts of California. Maybe not population-wise, given the nature of urban population density, but I wouldn't be willing to drop the entire state into the Pacific either way.

>talent

Here's what I think.
The stuff about Dana, the boxcutter, the grudge with Hirsch, that's who knows. Speculation, exaggeration, or outright bullshit. Coulda happen but who knows.

I think what did happen is Luke is a better artist than he is a self promoter, and he put a lot into Bikini Cowboy, but it wasn't a big hit. There was that Pearl thing.
And I think SOMETHING else happened that just further embittered him, but I dunno what.

Then the CG siren song of "well obviously it's the SJW's fault I'm miserable" wooed him over.
And now he's just festering in loathing.

How do we know it was him ? The interview was anonymous

What did he do?

Because /ss/ is at best legally grey in his shithole country and thats the only thing he's interested in drawing

People say there was a reference to an episode of Gravity Falls that he boarded that only he would know/care about.

The guy that attacked someone on the gravity falls team with a knife wasn't Luke, Alex's gf confirmed this and that happened back in season one and Luke was still working with them two years later.

Having a hot older girl/big sister helping explore sexuality is a particularly strong fetish/fantasy for me. Don't know why.

>that whole incident with EZPZ was absolutely hilarious
I posted this in another thread but it belongs here too.
What if the 1st diagnosis was wrong?

Consider the Following:
EZ's vid had complaints about relationships, complaints that Hirsch is banging too many bitches, whines about a female animation guild who did not help out some chick.
What if EZ's source was female?
Judging from the Vic Mignogna controversy with the #KickVic lunacy its pretty clear that chicks can be pretty fucking vindictive when a chad moves on, thats why im starting to think it was a chick that Hirsch fucked and never called again or worse a chick he wouldn't fuck but would fuck all her friends in the office.

youtube.com/watch?v=kDWJdsfocVE
>Reputation Destruction through innuendo and gossip.
Maybe it was some jealous chick who wanted to stop CHAD Hirsch from slaying so many bitches, what better way to do that than spread rumors he has STDs and shits in a trash can.

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But how can that be proven if he was the only one who would know about it?

There is a subtle difference when you do that only for fanservice and when you have argument in between.

>hat he's turning even more antisocial and bitter than Steve Ditko.
But Steve Ditko mattered. Always remember to become famous and important BEFORE you openly become an antisocial recluse.

>Always remember to become famous and important BEFORE you openly become an antisocial recluse.
^this.

also
>I still think he should just draw porn for funding dosh
Luke's artwork isn't necessarily all that erotic, tho. Jill is walking around practically naked the entire book but nowhere in it is she drawn as particularly provocative in any way. Even her kiss with Tonta is more comic than it is sexy.
She's just not a very sexy character. The only sexual tension in this book comes from the story and character dynamic between Jill and Rod. Luke's art is better suited for storytelling than eroticism, it seems to me.
But who knows, maybe Luke is secretly hiding a perv power level to rival that of Enuma Elish, Fishine or Inoue Kiyoshirou even. Guess we'll never know until he goes full on Shad.

From what you described he sounds pretty based and, dare I say it, redpilled.

Yikes. If he has any friends yet they need to stage an intervention before he starts calling himself "redpilled" or other career-and-social-life-nuking nonsense.

I dunno, I think the scene at night in the desert was hot.
I think it hinges on if you like Luke’s type of ladies (skinny).

>I still think he should just draw porn for funding dosh
He doesn't want to, and shouldn't if he doesn't want to.

He's got years of experience storyboarding, drawing, designing characters, writing, etc. Sure you can use all that for porn, but if you've already reached the point of working on multiple animated series, it's one hell of a fall from grace to have to draw titties just to get funding to tell some stories you want to tell.

Dude has no financial sense though, that's for sure.

indiegogo.com/projects/forsaken-gods-comic-issue-no-1/x/20585101#/ looks okay, but indiegogo is perhaps not the ideal way to get money for... um... anything.

>but indiegogo is perhaps not the ideal way to get money for... um... anything.
The most respectable they ever got was for Skullgirls, but with casualgate making it the base for their scams (seriously, 3 campaigns for the same book?), it's going worse and worse for actual small creators.

Despite getting a smaller cut in the end, I think Kickstarter will be the smarter choice for sincere creators for a long while.

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Why do CGers flock to indiegogo anyways?
Also for a guy that likes making stories with women protagonists, Luke sure has an axe to grind with feminism.

>Why do CGers flock to indiegogo anyways?
Pretty sure both have a "no harassment" policy, but Kickstarter actually enforces theirs. So since Meyer got caught with a video calling various creators cunts of cum dumpsters, he was disallowed from using kickstarter, so all of CG avoided it. So now Indiegogo is the "alt-right crowdfunding site!" by default, at least for comics.

It's really weird.

Man. I do not envy whoever has to do Indiegogo’s PR.

>I think Kickstarter will be the smarter choice for sincere creators for a long while.
Sadly that shit not gave me options on my country.

Fuck, that sucks. There has to be something besides those two though, Indiegogo's only gotten press for comics because a few CG youtubers getting big campaigns, overall it's not actually that great from what I've seen. Maybe there is a pure comic focused crowdfunding site I haven't seen yet.

>I mean, glancing at his twitter, he's the kind of guy that posts his own art for weeks on end, then takes a moment to go "(political thing)"

Literally, how is that any different than a ton of industry artist's twitters other than he's saying right-winged political stuff instead of left?

And you could say, "That's the difference. Hollywood is leftist", but it sounds like you're saying randomly chiming in with general politics among your art is a problem rather than right-winged politics specifically.

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It’s the little things. Even the most hardcore left wing artists on twitter talk about other day to day shit, their artistic process, other artists they like etc.
Luke’s just his art sometimes, and griping about how the feminists are out to get you. That’s it.

Which of the poor ass faggots replying are you? Seriously, sucking billionaire dick on twitter won't get you any money.

>Why do CGers flock to indiegogo anyways?
They hired Antos (an ex-Marvel editor Meyer beefed with) as a consultant after they canned Meyers book for "promoting discrimination".
All of the CG crowd took it as a sign that their books would be rejected too so they went to IGG.

It doesn't help that you basically have to pass a "loyalty test" to get any support from CG. If they actually promoted neutral creators, they'd have a much better image, but that ship sailed a long time ago.

>guy goes on podcats that almost never hit 1k viewers to promote his work
Going about this the wrong way luke

Its all because anyone they support will get blacklisted or hounded by spergs on twitter.
EVS said he talks to a couple of artists and other pros secretly because of this.

Then there's the list of people who started out supporting them but ended up being crazy like Vox or Ian Miles Cheong and others, Boomer Ethan didn't believe the rumors about them because of all the rumors people spread about him. Now he is much more cautious about people.

>This should be the requirement for all crowdfunded shit, otherwise it's a scam.

You think "thumbed out and written" means ANYTHING? It means, "I scribbled the whole thing out in my sketch book and all I have to do is actually sit down and draw, letter, color the entire thing, tweak the bits that don't work (that I didn't notice earlier because thumbnails are basically post-it notes).

>Just look up his name in the Yea Forums archive.

How about...no?

>He then tried to recoup by throwing his lot in with the comicsgate crowd, which wound up failing because nobody gave enough of a shit about his OGN, Bikini Cowboy, to fund a reprinting of it on kickstarter.

What a dingus.

Gwenpool works for Kickstarter now?
That's alot of milkshakes...

she was just a consultant for KS, now shes an editor for Valiant.

It's not just any old "political thing" though, is it? It's specifically that pretty much the only times he took a break from shilling his own stuff on twitter were to grumble about the women's march (which kinda doesn't look good when you're basically in the industry doghouse for creeping on a woman coworker) and to react to the NZ shooting by going "leave pewdiepie alone!" I mean, fuck, just do a baseline "my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims" before jumping into "hey, don't be mean to the youtube e-celeb caught up in this."

It's not "his politics are bad" it's that in the months since he got in trouble for trying to backstab coworkers because a girl didn't go out with him he's been silent on nearly everything except a passing gripe at feminists and trying to defend an e-celeb that he thinks has been "wronged." That's just (A) showing zero self-awareness and (B) coming off as seriously anti-social on social media.

People keep forgetting that your professional twitter feed is where you try to put your best foot forward. And maybe when your image is seriously tarnished from lying about coworkers, don't spend much time letting people know about things you hate.

"Here's my stuff" interspersed every other month with "here's what's pissed me off" is not a healthy interaction with the world around you, and that's the majority of his feed ( there's a little more than what said, but not a whole lot. Oh, and today's tweet seems to be him trying to shill his indiegogo on comicsgate presents? That's just depressing)

I enjoyed it

>"Here's my stuff" interspersed every other month with "here's what's pissed me off" is not a healthy interaction with the world around you
I wish more aspiring artists looking to become industry celebs would fucking understand this basic ass shit.
If you want to be a corporate cog, you CAN NOT have an opinion.
If you ARE a corporate cog, the ONLY opinion you can have is that which has been pre approved by your corporate betters.
You are no martyr.
You are no hero.
You are a moron and you deserve to die penniless and alone for your idiocy.
Thankfully, in Luke Weber's case, straight white men are the true oppressed minorities of this world so he'll no doubt be able to lie low and bide his time until some one grants him a new platform for him to express himself and his views and maybe make a bit of coin in the process.

>showing zero self-awareness
he named the native american sidekick in his book "Tonta".
>'awareness be damned, I grew up on this shit so who cares if it was a different time or not...'

>EVS said he talks to a couple of artists and other pros secretly because of this.
Well, if a scam artist said it, it must be true!

you have to cut out the tumor, it will only get worse if left alone.

same here, however hollywood has a problem with pedos, disney has MASSIVE issues with hiring pedos and keeping it under wraps as much as possible, and while I dont think he did anything, his 'edgy humor' was bluntly saying he wanted to/likes fucking kids, most of what he said, if it was in a british dry comedy way, could have been funny, but through text? Hell no. He should be fully investigated, because it seems like he abruptly stopped doing it... like he was dog whistling and someone whistled back.

again, all for innocent till proven guilty, but if you go to an airport and make jokes about stuffing balloons of coke up your ass, expect to have a cavity search, he should have had is places raided by cops and everything combed though with a fine tooth, if it came up with nothing, so be it, but we would know.

I would argue it's less "you can't have an opinion" and more "unless you're VERY secure in your position, your social media account is a business card. Try to keep it presentable, try to project an image of being someone people would like to work with/hire. Try to talk about things you like, not things you hate."

depends on the project.
I think EVERY project should have very detailed expense listings, so we know that they are going to get shit done, or at least can if given money, with people in the wings who can verify, if paid work will be delivered.
If everything needs to be nearly done for a crowd fund to even happen, why crowd fund and not just sell the thing unpolished, then provide a polished version once you make enough money.

>you have to cut out the tumor, it will only get worse if left alone.
Butthurt conservatives are moving to TX and shitting up my state, They come here with their and their godless BBQ sauces.and bitch about people speaking spanish.

>all for innocent till proven guilty, but if you go to an airport and make jokes about stuffing balloons of coke up your ass, expect to have a cavity search
Or showing up at the airport with a turban on yer head, amirite?

no, my understanding is the liberals are fleeing california and moving to red states and then bitching to get the policies that made california such a hellhole implemented.

Personally I fully believe we need a unifying thing in this country, and because we cant be a melting pot if we can't communicate freely, it should be english, we should not placate people who refuse to learn the language that is dominant in the country.

>no, my understanding is the liberals are fleeing california and moving to red states
user there are companies set up in TX dedicated to moving conservatives over here.
qz.com/1189388/conservative-californians-are-moving-to-texas-for-the-home-prices-and-politics/
TX laws favor businesses more
Fuckers move here without any understanding of the culture and think they can call themselves a texan and tell people what to do.
Ironically these conservatives have redpilled me (a democrat) into not liking "immigrants" from other states.

Personally wouldn't want to live in texas myself due to most of the stereotypes, as in the religious conservatives, but even if that wasn't the case, I live in the north and anything over 60 degrees I find hell like. Hell, im in this fun time frame where it's too cold to turn on the ac, but too hot to be comfortable, and I cant open my window for 1/3 of the day because where my shit is set up is all western facing windows.

yes so sad.

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Alex Hirsch is a wackjob, but he's a wackjob with money.

people have mentioned his twitter but it's nowhere to be seen? What's his handle

fresherluke

Insulting politicians is the bedrock of American values.

Nah, a project isn't a project if all you've got is a some thumbnails and "it's written". That's utterly meaningless.

Ideally, most projects that go to crowdfunding would be completed or close to completing. This is why I don't crowdfund anthologies or comics that have only a handful of sample pages completed.

I see crowdfunding more as a 'This will never get made without me putting money into it' kind of deal.

you will get burnt on certain projects, and largely you already know what they're when you first invest that are high risk.

personally, I want to see people with experience leading it, or a VERY well thought out proposal, if you just have very vague ideas and very little to show for it, go fuck yourself, but if you can give me 'we got an artist on board who wants X with a story that is done' then ill give you the benefit of the doubt, but you only get that once, fuck me and you never get that again.

The best part was that it would never have happened if somebody (EZPZ? Luke? Random autist?) didn't keep spamming the video trying to stir shit up. Instead it got a bunch of people annoyed enough to do a bit of revenge sleuthing.

>look for it in a archive
>With no sensible search option per thread
>That can't even find internally linked images
lol
How about no?

>casualgater
Let me guess: he whines about evil feminists oppressing the poor white males on twitter and blames everyone except himself for being a retard and getting kicked out of the industry

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Get red-pilled (and by /pol/tards shilled), get grilled

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I'd rather have talented retards in charge than talentless retards like Ian JQ

How exactly did he act like a "douchecanoe"?

>They essentially think their talent and online following is enough to sustain them or help them make it big when that's always far from the truth.

...??? Jeph Jacques is a straight up retard with no marketable skills and he makes over six figures because he has an online following. He is far from the only person to do this.

See If the stuff with EZPZ doesn't strike you as douchecanoe behavior, you spend too much time on Yea Forums.

There really wasn't any proof he was EZ's source, EZ is a known liar and will just make up shit for views.
Luke is friends with a CG guy so automatically Yea Forumsmblr hates him.

True that we on Yea Forums can only guess, and don't have all the facts that his coworkers have.

But even if he's an innocent man falsely accused, at a minimum he's been a dumbfuck about it. If he's trying to tell people "it wasn't me, it was someone else" then cozying up to the comicsgate crowd was a spectacularly stupid thing to do.

Either cozy up to CG outrage whores or cozy up to the mentally ill trannies in the comics industry.
He only appeared on one CG related podcast and since then he hasn't been on.

He's literally on one today.

>Either cozy up to CG outrage whores or cozy up to the mentally ill trannies in the comics industry.

The correct answer is: the people in the industry.

You cozy up to the people IN THE INDUSTRY YOU WANT TO BE IN.

Which one?

He would have to pretend to be super woke and one wrong tweet will land him in trouble.
Also the industry is dying and pays peanuts.

at least CG has their own site
indiecron.com/

Can someone tell me what comicsgate is about?
As far as I thought, it's supposed to be a movement against the inclusion of SJW elements in comics, like Iceman randomly being revealed as gay.
But given the mockery I see on this board I'm guessing it's a lot more autistic than I was led to believe.

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It’s so great to cut through the bullshit and laugh at how dumb they are

you all seem to be ill informed. because non of you are talking about this.

youtube.com/watch?v=Y7JhW7GItMs

You already summed it up
They complain against forced diversity and people with no experience getting hired because they are "woke" or "diverse"
They also complain about women being drawn like men, shill comic book journos being friends with industry people and complaining that they are targeted for being conservative.

Because they beefed with so many people on twitter there are legit stalkers in the Anti-CG group, some of them come to Yea Forums to complain about CG any chance they get.
1 member of CG was recently swatted as well as an indie comic publisher who doesn't even call himself CG(refuses to condemn them).

There is a bunch of other dumb shit that has happened but most of it isn't noteworthy except for Mark Waid being sued by Richard Meyer for Tortious Interference (case still in court, no ruling on jurisdiction yet).

You know, you guys could just send him an email, and ask to talk to him directly, rather than making an entire thread about him filled with nothing but lies and half truths. He's even tweeted as much.

He got the youtuber Alex Meyers to put that in a video.
All he has to do now is help one of those storytime faggots make an animated show and have youtube pay for it.

The style is passable, but there's absolutely nothing interesting or new about the premise.
The humor is nothing special either.

looking at his current indiegogo, the lowest perk is at 14. That's insane demand, especially when you're such a niche author. All crowfunded projects I've seen before have 1 and 5 bucks perks

maybe you should tell him that

>undertale music

"Hey Luke, did you hit on a woman that didn't reciprocate? And did you say a lot of stupid lies about your peers in bitterness when she rebuffed you for another guy?"
"Nope!"
"Oh, well, seems legit. Carry on then!"

Anything he could say in his defense he should've said months ago.

People who are uncomfortable with the rapid pushing of new characters in what feels like a desperate attempt at looking woke and diverse, and feeling left out in the cold over it, drowned out by retards who complain about how they can't read comics anymore if female characters aren't wearing costumes that expose their breasts and assholes and say that any depiction of minorities period is a sign of SJW takeover, and feel the only way to fix it is to blacklist anyone from the industry who has an opinion they disagree with.

On the opposite side are people who appreciate the big two trying to represent them more through new characters and more open inclusion of POC and the LGBT community, drowned out by retards who think that all comics are every phobic under the sun unless they cater to their specific niches and think anyone who dares even question them are nazi mansplainers, and think the only way to fix it is to blacklist everyone from the industry who has an opinion they disagree with.

>requires you to be super woke

You know I was gonna call BS on that. Then I remembered some people I know in the industry and they confirm that if you aren't constantly spewing shit or posting on social media 24/7 then you don't get anywhere. You only get certain gigs based on who you know or agreed with. It is a massive 'fake it till you make it' vibe.

It works both ways.

Only difference being on side a long-term investment and the other is a short-term.

Oh yeah he's totally gonna admit to making several accusations that could literally result in him being sued for libel if directly associated to him, all we have to do is ask him directly. Why didn't any of us think of that?

>People who are uncomfortable with the rapid pushing of new characters in what feels like a desperate attempt at looking woke and diverse,

The industry has been stagnating for decades. Some of the key books out there star characters that have been holding up entire companies since WWII. There's a whole host of bad business decisions made over the years that have led to this, but basically the comic industry has been especially bad at moving with the times.

It looks like a desperate attempt to look woke and diverse because it IS desperate. I'm not saying they're going about this in the right way, but I understand the desperation.

I can't say I have contacts in the industry, but I'm inclined to call B.S. on this. Every single storyboarder doesn't need to be tweeting politics in their offtime. It seriously can't be that hard to go "nah, twitter isn't really for me" and just avoid that shit altogether.

I understand what you're saying, my main issue being that they went about it way too quickly, especially taking in to account that the core capeshit fanbase are uber autists who loathe change in almost all senses. It can literally take them years to accept just one change in character (just look at Kyle Raynor), but them changing several characters in quick succession over a 2 year period was never gonna go over well.

Indivisible did really well too, but to be fair Lab Zero already had a damn good name for themselves

Meh. As always, I think the mistakes that brought us here were made looong before anything people are complaining about now. Diamond Distribution, gutting the newstand market. A drought of any books for younger readers. Completely makes a pigs ear of trade collections. And, more than anything else, ditching the anthology books instead of making them bigger, getting rid of something that had been introducing new characters/stories on a regular basis in favor of giving a handful of existing characters their own books in the belief they would remain popular and relevant forever.

Everything going on that has people grumbling is just the comics industry reaping what was sown long ago.

You'll get no disagreements from me there. The fact that Marvel actively reversed most of these changes a year ago yet there is still complaining over these things tells me that most of Comicsgate honestly don't really know what they really want. They could literally fire every single writer they don't like, remove every non-white character from continuity, and dress every single female character like a hooker outta the nineties again, and they'd still find something to complain about.

producing a project (thumbnailing, inking, coloring etc..) should be reserved for Patreon.
Crowdfunding via Kickstarter or Indygogo should be for finished projects ready to go to print.
The time and effort from that point should be in producing upper tier backer rewards.

No one cares.
Try again when LFW makes a Winghead pilot.

>You know, you guys could just send him an email, and ask to talk to him directly
>maybe you should tell him that
If this has all been a desperate cry for attention then perhaps instead of trying to open dialog with random anons on Yea Forums you should instead talk to a therapist instead, Luke.

So it's only okay if you do this with toxic left wing bullshit, got it.
You are the reason this country is shit, privatization of free speech is going to kill us all.

Again, this depends on how high risk the person is
If the person has a fairly solid track record, i'm FAR more inclined to give benefit of the doubt,but if someone is stupidly high risk, i'm thinking of the comics that had release dates several years ago and still have not come out while the person has gone on to do other comics, then patreon is the better solution. a big problem with patreon and then only printing something finished is its all out there, its all out there digitally, and if you don't think that there is a pirate base for what you made, your fooling yourself, also depending on the project, the person's role in the project, you may have a patreon thats a complete non starter because you aren't getting artists who will work for semen and a few pennies. Remember, no matter what you do as reader/artist, art is above all else a tradeskill, and trades demand real money to do. sure you can pick noodle arm same face calart shit and they will work for nothing because that is what they are able to do is worth, but you want someone who actually has skill, you are paying skilled labor rates and that shit starts at 20$ an hour.

>this country
nigga you the trash dump of every other country in the world you petulant child. your country is shit because you value guns more than health care not because mean old bitches and niggers wont let you say the N word anymore you fucking moron.

Fortunately for her no one cares if you attack faceless billionaires. Luke Weber makes it personal.

>if you don't think that there is a pirate base for what you made, your fooling yourself
if you're that worried about piracy cutting into profit, go back to animation where those nasty leakers can't possibly harm your finished product...

printed work has more value than digital. If you produce something valuable, the people buying your work want both.

>you may have a patreon thats a complete non starter because you aren't getting artists who will work for semen and a few pennies.
that sounds like a personal problem, not a backer problem. eat more pineapples, I hear it makes your semen taste better.

I think he should've went right to Bikini Cowboy 2 after the first one came out, while he still had some momentum, but I guess that ship has sailed.

It barely made its goal. Zone was spamming support for it on Tumblr and doing streams to help bring in money and interest. Yea Forums had constant threads about it potentially not making it.

he should do that, in patreon,
and send the updates via
message.

and then do so in a explicit manner.
like bridges are burned, just do your
shota comic 100% lewder.