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THE RIDE NEVER FUCKING ENDS

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"Journalists" are just scratching the bottom of the barrel now.

They have been for three years.

>journalists

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>"Journalists" and "Simpsons writers" are just scratching the bottom of the barrel now.
ftfy

>Showrunner
is that the same faggot who tried to get rid of Apu?

why don't they let the simpsons die already? don't they know mercy?

If the kids were attracted to him, why aren't they gay now?

>three

I'll care once they go into my hardrive and wipe the episode themselves.

It was one of the writers of the show

Yes I'm sure I'm sure the story line about love for family was useful to separate the boys from their families so he could molest them.

oh god damn it.

Sneed feed and seed. Sneed feed and seed.

I think Apu is the first T,V, Indian form India.

I ain't giving that site any clicks, whats the tl;dr on what this fuckwit says about it? Didn't MJ do the bit anonymously or am I mis-remembering?

By that I assume a modern writer who had nothing to do with episode, or that era, and merely talking out his ass

>The Simpsons showrunner Al Jean believes one of the series' episodes was used by Michael Jackson to groom young boys for sexual abuse.

>Jackson's past has been pulled into the limelight again thanks to the HBO documentary Leaving Neverland, which explores the singer's sexual abuse allegations. Jean believes Season 3 premiere episode "Stark Raving Dad" was used as a grooming tool by the singer, which has resulted in the show pulling the episode.

>"It wasn't something that makes me happy. It's something I agree with completely," Jean told The Daily Beast. "What saddens me is, if you watch that documentary -- which I did, and several of us here did -- and you watch that episode, honestly, it looks like the episode was used by Michael Jackson for something other than what we'd intended it."

>Jackson had contacted creator Matt Groening to be included, as he was a fan of the show during the heights of his popularity.

>"It wasn't just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool. And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief, and it’s why I think removing it is appropriate. I lose a little bit of money financially, it's not something that's great personally to lose one of the most successful things I ever did, but I totally think it’s the right move," Jean added. "I don't believe in going through and making judgments on every guest star and saying 'this one was bad, that one was bad,' but the episode itself has a false purpose, and that's what I object to about it now."

>When pressed about this false purpose, Jean said, "I think it was part of what he used to groom boys. I really don't know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally, but as far as what I think, that's what I think. And that makes me very, very sad."

Al Jean, specifically, because Jackson contacted the show and asked to be on it, and that began the collaboration on the Bartman record as well.

Al Jean was one of two credited writers on the episode.

It was common in the early Simpsons for cameo VAs to remain uncredited. Because animation was even more negatively viewed back in those days than they are in a post-Simpsons era and famous celebs thought it might be toxic to their career to appear credited in such a thing.

Not acknowledging either side of this stupid bit of non-news in any way; just dispensing information.

HEE HEE

No it's Al Jean who's he show runner.

How does that make any sense when it was a secret that Michael Jackson voiced the character, and the character looks nothing like him?

Al Jean is a fucking tool. Who cares what he has to say?

>And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief

Great sentence structure Al.

He's basically just pulling this out of his ass because he's embarrassed one of the most beloved classic Simpsons has MJ in it.

>Thinks
Oh wow, what a great time to announce something like that.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LISA
LISA IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY

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Let’s be real.

If an unmarried effeminate rich guy in your town was always inviting little boys to his house to have sleepovers, what would you think?

How much money is he paying?

Obliged, mate.

It hasn't been a secret in over a decade.

I think Michael Jackson once supposedly used a porn in a assault that was made a number of months after the assault can taking place so possibly more false evidence?

Wasn't MJ married twice and with multiple children?

Fucking scumbag.
>I think working on the Simpsons was how Al Jean convinced himself he was a good man. That bringing some joy to the boys and girls of America would wash the blood off his hands. But ultimately no amount of classic comedy could chip away at guilt of killing that many hookers. I really down know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally, but as far as what I think, that's what I think and the though of Al Jean just shuffling through a garage filled to the rafters with desecrated corpses, his boots sloshing in their putrefaction, makes me very, very sad.

Wasn't the allegations all proven false? The Sundance Documentary really did a number huh.

It wasn't secret. Source: I was alive in 1991 and could understand that it was Michael Jackson. Everybody knew. The press clippings all talked it up.

No, he's covering himself in case Jackson's estate is extra litigious right now. Voicing a reasonable conclusion from the evidence he has - that Jackson admitted to sleepovers, that he admitted the boys shared his bed, that he admitted to payments to their families which might have been hush money, or rent money, that Jackson contacted the show and asked to be in it - covers him. It's not like he's said "Jackson used his Simpsons appearance to groom kids in his decaying theme park home 30 years ago by viewing the episode of the world's favorite cartoon of the day in which he appeared and impressing upon the kids that he was like a cool uncle who just wanted to insert his skeletal digits into their nunu holes, QED". He's saying it's his opinion, and it's a reasonable conclusion: whether it's true or not is immaterial - any potential lawsuit arising from his remarks has to prove that he's said something unreasonable (and it's way past the time anybody could claim defamation, not just because Jackson's been dead for a decade but because his reputation has been trash for 25 years).

>mfw that whole documentary

made me laugh more than any "Zombie" simpsuns shit.

growing up in the 90s and hearing countless jokes about "wacko jacko" from literally every show on TV will do that to a person

also Schadenfreude, hell of a drug

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How the fuck does this shit matter? The man is fucking dead. What are they going to do? Dig him up and bring his rotted corpse to trial again?

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I think he did it too, but I feel like the showrunner is just stupid if he thinks MJ used the episode to help him groom boys.

I mean, as characters go, some fat insane guy who talks to homer doesn't strike me as the sort of character you'd want to play to make children think it was okay to let diddle their tiny cocks.

I'd have wanted to be some cool teen or barts new friend or something if I was in it for the kiddy fucking, just saying.

Is it possible that whatever else he was, MJ was a fan of good simpsons and just thought it'd be fucking sweet to be a guest star?

He snuck the gay in, he fucked it back out. Nobody's sexuality emerges unscatched from white nigger cock.

No he just had very good lawyers.

Nothing like dragging a dead mans name though the mod for clicks and social brownie points...

how does that even work

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>"Journalists" and "Simpsons writers" are just scratching the bottom of the barrel" now
ftfy

how long until all the awards he won during his career are taken? will they also do it to other stars and important people through history that were proven to be pedophiles like Davinci and Einstein?

What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know how courts work? Or English? English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

No. For example Jordan Chandler's descriptions of Jackson's body - including his buttocks and his genitals - were detailed and found to be accurate when Jackson was strip-searched as part of the 1993 court proceedings. The Chandler family settled out of court for $25 million; the case remains unproven, and beyond the statute of limitations to re-try even if Jackson were still alive.

During those same allegations, Jackson's home was raided and found to contain photographic imagery of young boys in little clothing or nude.

A decade later, the film crew Jackson invited to shadow him filmed him arranging to sleep with a young boy. Sex was not discussed, but apparently even after being accused and settling for $25m Jackson couldn't see anything wrong with sleeping in the same bed as a boy who was in no way related to him. This was the boy over whom the later trial (at which Jackson was acquitted) would be held.

The Robson/Safechuck allegations were dismissed at court because of the statute of limitations (which is the same thing that kept most of Bill Cosby's crimes from being prosecuted, even though it's now clearly credible he did do them). That means they were untested, not proven either way.

You fuck off from Da Vinci

Kill the only thing a dead man can have. A legacy.

What struck me was the guy who wrote his unauthorized biography (who actually said like a half year before he died that he was taking weird drugs and was going to not wake up some day) said something like:

Look, I looked a lot of places, cause if I could find something that stuck that's like, millions of dollars in the book deal. I just couldn't find anything that'd stick about him and kids. I found a whole lot that he was really really gay, but not with kids.

Well it's the only way he can be punished now

#destroythemonalisa

Why is everyone talking about Micheal Jackson again?

This is old news being dragged out again. They can never destroy the King of Pop's legacy.

>No. For example Jordan Chandler's descriptions of Jackson's body - including his buttocks and his genitals - were detailed and found to be accurate when Jackson was strip-searched as part of the 1993 court proceedings. The Chandler family settled out of court for $25 million; the case remains unproven, and beyond the statute of limitations to re-try even if Jackson were still alive.
>During those same allegations, Jackson's home was raided and found to contain photographic imagery of young boys in little clothing or nude.
>A decade later, the film crew Jackson invited to shadow him filmed him arranging to sleep with a young boy. Sex was not discussed, but apparently even after being accused and settling for $25m Jackson couldn't see anything wrong with sleeping in the same bed as a boy who was in no way related to him. This was the boy over whom the later trial (at which Jackson was acquitted) would be held.
>The Robson/Safechuck allegations were dismissed at court because of the statute of limitations (which is the same thing that kept most of Bill Cosby's crimes from being prosecuted, even though it's now clearly credible he did do them). That means they were untested, not proven either way.

Wow, literally none of this is true

What happened to you, Al Jean? You used to be cool.

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>how does that even work

What the abuser typically does in the type of operation suspected of Jackson is shower their victim with praise, gifts, attention etc; it's classic gaslighting, taking them into a constructed fantasy world where you can hang out with the world's most famous star in an amusement park and sleep over in his bedroom (kids not really understanding sex or sexual urges even if they're starting to hear about it). As part of that, Al Jean clearly fears that Jackson used his connection to what was the world's most popular cartoon of the era to impress the kids.

It's a little like the casting couch, except he's not really promising anything specific.

Literally all of that is public record, faggot.

Try harder.

Al Jean was never cool, he was a tv writer.

I mean, is anybody questioning that Michael's been naked in front of little kids? I mean the fucking pool was huge, that alone could be how that kid saw him naked, changing. No doubt michael was weird as shit and did some weird as shit things that wouldn't have been as weird if he was the same age because he wanted to be a little kid.

I'm so glad MJ is dead. This shit would have definitely been a massive firestorm if he was alive.

Okay, this is just getting silly. You can say "We don't want to profit off of our association with the guy" that's all well and good. It's your show, you have the right to do that. But at some point you're just talking about it to talk about it. This is just his admittedly unfounded belief. What if he did, what if he didn't, what if the world were made of pudding? It's just conjecture. Let it all go.

No word on them banning the Cosby episodes, though?

It was when he was alive too.

bunch of lefties made a documentary about MJ and used it to shit on him the best way they could and now there's a bunch of new people claiming they were also abused by MJ and need money to compensate their bleeding anus.

HBO released a documentary about him raping Kevin Nash in the Summer of 92

It's not a matter of whether anybody's still questioning it. The statute of limitations has expired on that particular case, and Jackson is dead so there's never going to be a criminal case (statute has also expired anyway).

The point is that Jackson settled with the Chandlers for $25m, but that means that the case came to an end. The allegations aren't tested at all - but the evidence that was submitted is now a public record. The Chandler boy knew what Jackson's dick looked like with an erection (due to markings only visible when it was lifted). You're free to draw whatever conclusions you want from that - and yeah, he was a weirdo, but that doesn't mean he was or wasn't a child abuser. It just means he showed a kid his dick and it cost him $25m. What he did to the kid or with his dick in front of the kid will never be fully known.

>Kick me kike me, don't you black or white me. Jew me, sue me. Everybody do me
I wonder why they're going after him

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Yeah, but this would have been a resurgence.

There was a recent documentary or something about MJ and his allegation that brought it back to light even though most people believe he didn't do it and he's fucking dead and it's been over a decade

No he would have just paid everyone off. The Doc would have never happened
His estate is just maintaining a low profile, which is probably best, you can't blame is kids.

This whole thing is just a story from North America.

How would... what? Seriously, what?

Meanwhile, in Japan
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Because he was a child molester
>most people believe he didn't do it
Most people are really fucking stupid

How did he get away with it?

Lots of money

Kike

Best scene in the game. The Japanese don't give a shit I love them
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Trayvon Martin was the start of the new low. It's been at least since then.

Like you, for example.

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Convinced the kids they'd go to jail too if they ever testified against him.

If he did it, then why wasn't he charged and sent to prison?

>it's classic gaslighting
That's not gaslighting at all.

Except he didn't most of the kids lied on the stand. One of the key witnesses in the documentary said he didn't molest anyone in the 90s

He didn't (((they))) were on him like white on rice from day one
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My guess is he was rich as shit and either managed to pay people to keep them quiet or hired the best lawyers he could to shut people up when they didn't just take the money.

FUCK FOX AND AL JEAN! They still coming for Mike after the FBI investigated him for 10 years? Humiliating him by having the man undress in front of strangers and have pictures taken of his torso, butt, and genitalia, and raided his home only to find shit. Mike ain't no damn pedophile and Wade and Safechuck are full of shit.

Excellent lawyers
Needed them to stop all those mean children from bulling the poor multi millionaire.

He even paid them millions of dollars out of the kindness of his heart

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i wonder who's behind this post

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He'd have been living in Bahrain if he was alive. If it turned out he'd been doing even the naked-with-little-boys stuff out there? You bet there'd be a shitstorm. They'd cut various parts of him off first though.

It's not unfounded. It's a reasonable conclusion to draw from what's been in the public domain since the Chandler trial in 1994 and what's recently been claimed. There have been five public accusers, all young boys. In the very first instance Jackson went to court - naively, I would think - and eventually settled. Ten years later he was still, apparently, doing the same things - whatever those things were - as he freely admitted to a film crew he had follow him around.

Cosby was never a guest voice, he was only ever an impersonation. You're right, maybe there's a case for dropping those from rotation as well, but since they were mocking him pretty openly it's not the same thing.

I dunno. All the people flip flopping on the facts and looking for money makes me shrug. Even the FBI turned up nothing.

Is it fair to say Al Jean is virtue signalling? It really seems like he is as a way to save face for even making the episode at all.

Personally, I love this episode and have it downloaded. Fuck censorship.

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>Except he didn't most of the kids lied on the stand
yeah fuck those kids

I have no doubt in my mind that every single one of the MJ defense force would have absolutely no trouble sending their kids to Neverland.

Doesn't that make Al Jean guilty of being a child predator then?

It is gaslighting. He's constructing a fantasy in order to confuse. It's literally how gaslighting is used in sexual abuse cases.

>MJ being wacky was an open secret for decades
>he dies and everyone who brings up abuse was told to shut up because it's "disrespectful" or something.
>everyone is shocked when it turns out it was real all along

Literally this wouldn't be a big deal if you didn't treat him like a saint after he died holy fuck

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Oh, his shitty structure isn't just there

>I lose a bit of money financially

HOW THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU LOSE MONEY, AL?

Every single one of them is guilty because every single one of them knew.

Now the facts are more public than ever and they all need to cover their tracks.

Here we go again
>No proof
>No conviction
>"He did it!"

No.

No.

Also, he's saying it's off the air. It's out of broadcast rotation, meaning he gets no money from it - but unless you downloaded it from FOX and paid, he never was getting money from you, and that means you support "censorship" of this form, because you are also taking money away from the show's owners, which means less money for future shows. So well done you.

>yeah fuck those kids

That was how the problem started.

CAUSE THIS IS THRILLEEEEEEEER

But Jordan's description said that Jackson was circumcised, which Jackson's autopsy showed that he was not. Plus the 2005 case used the evidence from Chandler's case and Jackson wasn't indicted of anything.

We're mad because we know it isn't real because unlike you fucking gen z faggots we did our damn research and not believing some lying dipshits that are only after a damn check.

I remember this episode. They didn't even use Michael Jackson's real name. I mean it was fucking obvious but c'mon. Fucking Jews trying to ruin his legacy. I'm gonna go listen to Happy Birthday Lisa.

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Michael Jackson was so mentally stunted he just liked being around kids and didn't get why sharing a bed with a boy for a month was bad but he was also cognizant enough of how bad it looked that he had to set up eight layers of security so no one could even approach his room without him knowing

Where are you getting your sources from?

>no proof
Weren't the boys they interviewed able to accurately describe the vitiligo on his genitals?

I meant he's making an assumption that Jackson used the Simpsons episode specifically to endear himself to kids under his sway. He's already made an argument about pulling it from rotation, which I find perfectly acceptable and understandable. But this additional stated belief of his is unnecessary and falls too squarely into conjecture. He's making up a reason to despise and vilify the episode. It feels like he's just saying shit to say it now.

Cash. Finance concerns investments and uncertainty, as with the residual checks Al Jean would have earned from future showings of this particularly noteworthy episode; one other way in which you could lose money is by losing cash. For example. Cash may form part of your finances, but it doesn't evaporate, and it's generally worth the same today as it will be tomorrow and was yesterday.

I downloaded it for free. They're trying to erase the episode, so I'm preserving. Why would I want to fund Zombie Simpsons anyway?

Freddie Mercury thought he was too weird to work with.
Yes

No they weren't. In fact their testimonies contradicted evidence

Mike's bedroom was huge. It was as big as a small house and two stories. The boys in question slept downstairs in a separate bedroom. Macaulay Culkin and Aaron Carter can vouch for that.

I really pitied Quincy Jones interviewing Michael. Quincy tried so fucking hard and Michael just wouldn’t meet him half way.

Gaslighting is when you try to convince a sane person they are crazy. That's not what Jackson's being accused of here.

>ITT Yea Forums in denial defending the creepiest and most obvious pedophile ever

I feel like you two should probably talk to each other for a bit, you're both fans so you've got that in common

No he's voicing a fear that this is what happened, that something he wrote and was part of and probably used the money from to build his kid's college fund was also used by a sexual predator to entrap children. It's a reasonable fear given the circumstances, and he's within his rights to make this call. He's clearly been asked why he's pulling it and he's given a concise answer: because he fears the stuff about Jackson was true, and it weighs on his own conscience.

Stop fucking lying faggot. You know that shit ain't true.

Michael Jackson is literally on tape talking about how he shared beds with boys.

>board of adult children realize that someone being a top tier weirdo is not proof they're evil

sneed thinks chuck used feed to fuck

I'm pretty sure they advertised him on this episode, even if they didn't credit him. I was REALLY young when this episode came out, but I have vague memories of the commercials making a big deal about MJ being on the Simpsons.

Since I was so young young its possible I'm just remembering wrong though

Its Yea Forums and /pol/ mostly
/pol/s been weird lately, hopefully things get back to the normal level of cancer for the election.

Someone is dissapointed Michael Jackson didnt molest them

>formerly cool

is reddit raiding us again?

So you're saying you support censorship of things you don't like? you... you... DOUBLE Al Jean!

uh huh

Gaslighting delegitimizes the victim's belief. In the case of a child sexual abuse victim, that would be the belief that, say for example, their parents should know everything that happens to them. Or the belief that they shouldn't do things they're not comfortable with.

Gaslighting. You should... probably read some books.

Sharing a bed =/= rape or molestation. Mike was fucked up mentally but he didn't molest anyone

People like you are the reason male kindergarten teachers don’t exist

>Yea Forums eating the outrage muckraker medias shit up despite the fact the guy went to trial and the prosecution was so weak the trial fell apart months before its predicted end

>no arguments, just memes
lol

That's how you know he wasn't though. It would be too obvious for Michael to be a pedo.

But did he say he molested them?

>if you don't believe the narrative we push you're /pol/
Fuck off kike. Spacey and Wienstien were actual criminals and the mainstream praises them even after. Woody Allen groomed his wife and no one cares.

>Sharing a bed =/= rape or molestation. Mike was fucked up mentally but he didn't molest anyone

I'm not even sure how to begoin to unpack that statement
I had a male kindergarten teacher and he didn't have us snuggle up to him for nap
>That's how you know he wasn't though. It would be too obvious for Michael to be a pedo.
Christ

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Mike slept on the floor

The boys would sleep on the bed

>male kindergarten teachers don’t exist
I just realized this now.

I mean the documentary is utter shit. You don't say all this shit and not also bother to ask his family for their side of it.
Not his father (if he's still alive not sure) but his siblings, maybe even some of his staff. Probably leave the kids out of it still.
They just make that shit so people could come out of the woodworks for money for fake claims.

He's covering his ass. Got it.

Nah, it's more like he's got to jump on this bandwagon or everyone will think he conspired with Michael Jackson.

For the record, how is preserving a soon-to-be lost episode censorship? Does Fox pay you to come here and promote them on Yea Forums or what?

>I'm not even sure how to begoin to unpack that statement
Oh boy more deflection. That isn't proof of rape. Rape is that thing your granddad did to you

A show for the world so they wouldn't think he was gay/a pedo. Didnt even fuck the second wife at all, used sperm donors and artificial insemination to get 3 kids.

Victims say he had a real mistrust and hatred of women and would always bad mouth them.

Uh sharing a bed under California law circa 1990?

That's probably molestation. I wouldn't pick that particular hill to die on if I were you.

Yes lol. One of you is arguing it never happened and there are no sources, the other is arguing it did happen but was interpreted unfairly. You can't argue both, and I'm not your gatekeeper. You decide between you which is correct, and we'll talk.

Unless you mean the Al Jean's opinion thing - which he's entitled to under the first amendment, so we won't be arguing that.

I think they're suggesting he used his presence in a popular cartoon to bond with and lower the guard of kids. In addition to his superstar status and amusement park and zoo animals and other childish things.

You must have an extra chomosome. How is preserving an episode censorship? Do you just suck corporate dick for a living? You sure seem concerned about Fox getting it's money.

>One of you is arguing it never happened and there are no sources, the other is arguing it did happen but was interpreted unfairly
I argue that Michael Jackson never actually existed.

Seriously, guys, if he did it, then why wasn't he convicted even though this was taken to court?

At the time he was a rich white man.

>only one person is arguing with you
>don't bother to address the person contradicting your claim
You are a very serious person. I am sorry for laughing at you.

I'm intrigued with what you're saying, but also I would like to see some sources, any chance you could pleasep rovide, because this is news to me?

Gee I wonder what Harvey Weinstein is doing right now.

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Who said it's going to be lost?

You know what happens with media that's pulled over legal factors? It's kept FOREVER. There will always be the master copy, locked away in a vault somewhere (more like a library really, but you wouldn't get in without serious authorization from the company).

This is done to preserve the item so that, in the event that people started claiming down the line with it out of circulation that it, say, encouraged child abuse, FOX (or whoever else) could pull the verified original in court and say yeah nah.

Your 240p DivX? Not really a preservation of anything. Probably cut, chyron'd or logo'd by the broadcaster affiliate. Enjoy.

because i'm not using any critical thinking skills

Face it, your idol is a kiddie fucker. He wouldn't pay out millions of dollars MULTIPLE TIMES to MULTIPLE PEOPLE if he was innocent dumbshit.

You're taking money from the Zombie Simpsons. You're censoring them, man! Can't you even follow your own argument any more?

That would have made the past half hour more productive for me.

Seriously, you guys need to talk to one another.

>Gaslighting delegitimizes the victim's belief.
you're not as smart as you think you are. You've expanded the definition to the point at which the word is now useless. None of the things you listed is "gaslighting." The correct word is grooming and it was already used in the fucking op but your ego got in the way and now here we are.

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I seriously don't know if you're joking or not.

>MULTIPLE TIMES to MULTIPLE PEOPLE
[citation needed]

What you're describing is not a long-term pattern of psychological manipulation designed make the victim doubt their own perceptions and memory. You're describing direct pressure tactics and earlier were describing lovebombing.

>>ITT Yea Forums in denial defending the creepiest and most obvious pedophile ever
R. Kelly?

>That would have made the past half hour more productive for me.
This produces salt
Well he's going to be acquitted so clearly he did nothing wrong

This is the kind of thing that makes Disney retire whole IPs.

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More so their agencies and managers did, or they had contractual obligations with other stations and couldn't be credited for legal reasons.

REMINDER:
MJ was almost Jar Jar Binks but Lucas didnt want him because MJ wanted to use makeup and not Cgi

>Seriously, you guys need to talk to one another.
This is pretty funny at this point. Have fun in your bubble.

People were pissy about this when it came out

Still waiting for this to be in Kingdom Hearts.

Oh OK you're the smartest guy on the internet. Good luck with your SATs.

Yeah? How do you like them apples?

If you don't want to talk to him that's fine, but whichever one you are, he's got some information for you.

Also Lucas wanted someone athletic with acting experience, not a cripple with a painkiller addiction.

no one cared about it when it came out

>cripple
Bitch at 50 Mike could out dance your ass.

Mee HEEE HEEEE saMOANA think you should mess those younglings up

No... No AnniARE YOU OKAYAH, ARE YOU OKAYAnnie, not like that

the jokes write themselves

Too crazy for boy town...too much of a boy for crazy town.

They did record some stuff together but not to completion. Jackson didnt like freddy doing coke in front of him in his house so they didnt finish.

There are 500 shitty episodes of the Simpsons and he just has to remove one of the good ones.

oh godamn it

Man. Can you imagine how jealous normal pedos felt when MJ was around?

>”Hey champ, want a green sucker? It’s in the back o’ my van...”

*limousine pulls up*

[window roll]

>”Hey cowboy, wanna race giraffes and eat fresh gourmet ice cream on a yacht? I’ll let you play CoD XII when we’re done...”

>random anons have to have the arguments in line with one another before disagreeing with you
I wonder how life would be like with your sense of entitlement.

Michael also demanded his llama be in the recording studio

Hanging with Oprah as she stirs the anti-MJ chorus.

>Multiple children
Prince Michael and Paris are lily white, they're not his. Maybe Prince Michael 2, he could be mixed, but definitely not the first two.

What everyone should be talking about tis that nigga R. Kelly not Mike. Kelly the nasty pedophile that fucked 12 yearold girls and watched them have sex with older women. Hell he had one of those damn bitches fuck her own 6 year old niece and film it and send it to him. He married Aaliyah when she was 15 and forced her into an abortion. He was fucking her mama too by the way who was okay with the nigga raping her daughter for coin. Pay attention to that nasty black man and not the innocent black man who didn't do shit.

>we did some shady shit so let's hide our tracks by virtue signalling

is that the blue inbreed?

>Prince Michael and Paris are lily white
Blood don't make family.

they did, it was a rather touchy film for it's time

>All I gotta say is they don't really care about us...

If my kid got molested I wouldn’t walk away because they gave me a few bucks. I’d want the pervert crucified.

R. Kelly isn’t a pedo. His bladder is weak.

He was a good actor. Lucus is a bad director tho.

zoomer

You can't say he's not a pedophile for adopting children. Hell, even pedophiles can have biological kids. It's fairly obvious his marriages were shams. He had his kids made in test tubes, he wasn't really interested in women.

Didn't he accidentally admit to human trafficking?

I'm just saying the kids may not be Mike's biologically but it doesn't matter because he was their dad and gave them as much of a normal life as possible. A real man raises his kids.

>hey, I voiced a fat white guy on that cartoon show your parents probably don't let you watch

>>"It wasn't just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool.
The Simpsons has literally never been about comedy, and it was ALWAYS a tool. This is coming from one of the biggest Jews in Hollywood too.

Ironically Briar Rabbit comes from a real African folktale and is far closer to authentic black African cultural roots than kangz garbage like Black Panther.

To be fair he had vitiligo, which might have influenced his children's genes.

He pretty much incriminated himself further with that interview with Gayle King. Though it has been said he has a pedo ring and his people including his ex-wife would traffic little girls to him.

>You can't say he's not a pedophile for adopting children.
im inviting you in this day to reconsider your entire life.

Yea Forums pls

A lot of the Uncle Remus stories were from African folktales. But then a white dude repackaged them as being a remnant of the good ol' Antebellum days and the whole thing became weird.

All these revived crazy sex scandals are making me nostalgic

Will Dirty Dan ever get pinched? Or will he be like Saville?

lmao

Evan Chandler asked for money before suing. After being rebuffed (why would a guilty man turn up the chance to pay to make the legal threat go away?) he waited until Jackson was taking a rest in the middle of a tour before suing so that to fight it out would mean cancelling the second half of the tour and losing tens of millions of dollars in lost revenue.

They NEED people to confirm to everyone else that MJ is a bad man, because if they don't convince everyone of it, they lose face. I'm serious here too. Lots of people use Michael Jackson as the posterboy for jew character assassination plots, if they can confirm to everyone he WAS IN FACT a bad man then they can keep doing it without anyone questioning it.
Mark my words, this man is being assassinated because he knew about the illuminate and wanted to fuck them up - he had almost unlimited capital and powerful people backing him, he was incredibly dangerous to them, and they fucked him up first.

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Isn't that a libelous statement? If lawsuits start slinging, "I believe Michael Jackson used the Simpsons to groom boys for sexual assault" coming from the writer of that episode is worth a payday from Fox/Disney

Didn't Dirty Dan get kicked from Nickelodeon recently with a huge parting gift? I thought they were tossing him off the ship to save themselves. Or did I make that up?

Bre’r rabbit is a composite of the Bantu trickster Hare with the Akan trickster Spider and the Yoruba trickster Tortoise

Well now thats in the forefront you forgot about Weinstein didnt you. You know the guy who funded the "documentary"

>MJ's favorite Simpson was Bart
Hmmm.

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Libel/slander laws don't apply to the dead user.

Everyone's favorite character in season 3 was Bart, retardo

Yeah they booted him. Feel bad for all the girls that worked on his show. Especially the ones on victorious, you know who put out the most and it wasn’t the main character of that show either.

the FBI got him investigated and found nothing back in the day.
this is the work of a faggot making a cheap documentary to get easy cash and another faggot writter using the oportunity as a scape goat and get good boy points.
you may be thinking you are woke but believe me, you are not. Start using that brain of yours.

when are we going to start executing them?
along with lawyers, executives, and anyone involved in insurance. just get out the fucking guillotine.

You might be one of the dumbest anons in this thread m8, you should reread what I wrote again. I don't think MJ did it, and I think you're a huge faggot who doesn't have even a basic sense of reading comprehension. Kill yourself, buddy.

I'd think if any kid even MAKES UP a story, he's going to jail
so he's going to be REALLY fucking careful not to cross any lines.

Depends on the state. Texas, for example, allows estates to sue on behalf of the deceased.

This is true mental illness

We can only hope that Sheriff Sandy gets him eventually. Him and Pinhead Larry.

remember when he died and everyone was suddenly nice to him
remember how nice they weren't, even a minute before that?
this is fucking weird. i assumed when cosby dies soon they'd all realize they put an innocent man in prison but apparently nobody cares anymore. just cancel it. just cancel earth.

Lol this. The guy was diddling little boys.

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MEANWHILE

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remember when california just repealed statute of limitations, something monstrously unconstitutional, and nobody cared because YAY THE VICTIMS

he got a new fucking nose, a foreskin's gotta be easy

youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs
youtube.com/watch?v=9yTTEwBLfUQ
youtube.com/watch?v=zYx0vLfpRYY

The King of Pop is innocent of these crimes. Was he damaged, creepy motherfucker? Sure, but that doesn't mean he diddled any kids.

it's true
mjfacts.com/resources/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

the cops literally found pictures of naked boys in mj's bedroom.

if the eye guys were behind his head the FBI would have got him for any dumb reason long ago. The guy is fucking dead, this is not a big conspiracy just dumb tv drama.
Again, start using your fucking brain.

>citation needed
Also to be fair some of the most blazing "misogynists" I've ever met are married men. Turns out what women tell virgins they want isn't actually what gets them to pop out kids for you.

You have no idea what you're even talking about. >start using your brain
Brain: MJ didn't do it and is being character assassinated, this has been going on since the 90s, this is just the latest way to seal the story. Start using your own brain, you huge fucking faggot.

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Kek, you're attacking him for nothing.

I take it you didnt even watch the documentary Leaving Neverland, did you?

Probably all the rabid fans posting here haven't.

>n-NO U(x2)
nice response gentlemen, no arguments etc
im done with you.

>hey you should watch this docu about more child diddling starring MJ
We've been over it for 20 years, the guy wasn't a molestor, don't need to see yet another piece about something that isn't real. Do you watch every docu about faking the moon landing?

>attacking
? im telling him his reasoning doesnt make any sense and is just plain retarded.

>Leaving Neverland
It's like you want people to think your a joke.

I dunno what even your goal here is anymore, but I do know you're a retard and part of the reason no one comes to this faggot board.
>comics
kill. yourself. faggot.

Possession of child pornography is itself a crime. If they found any in Jackson's home they would have charged him for that.

>reasoning is retarded
Nigger, get the fuck out of here, you might think you're woke but you're not, start using your brain - this is a character assassination.

Why would I look at yet another "documentary" claiming Mike is a pedophile by two fools who can't keep their stories straight.

I love how this site is always screaming from the mountaintop that every celebrity in LA is a pedophile, but get triggered over this and play Monday morning quarterback in MJ's defense just to be a true contrarian.

I guess we can all at least agree that MJ's dad was a piece of garbage, and all of these problems are his fault

I would think the parents of the kids could make a lot of money with some semen stains on their kid's clothes.

>This entire site is one person

Normie celebrities Virtue Signaling to Social Justice and the like out of lazyness, comfort, safe zone bubble and fear, NO! REALLY!?

Joe was a garbage piece of human trash. Glad that bastard is dead but damn he should have went before Mike.

I dunno about this argument. Japanese parents are harsh unrelenting taskmasters worse than Americans, and it’s not like it turns their kids into socially stunted adult-children clamoring for a lost youth through inappropriate behavior.

>Spacey and Wienstien were actual criminals and the mainstream praises them even after
lol no. Who the fuck is praising Weinstien and Spacey. They're some of the most reviled men in America.

are you mentally ill?

>this site
>mad about pedophiles
If footage came out tomorrow of Jackson fucking a little boy at most people here would whine that it's not a girl.

His mother too.
She was in on it.

flip flopping much like ReviewFaggotUSA, dont be disingenuous

The nigga stood around with a belt and would beat Mike and his brothers whenever they messed up in rehearsals. The man terrorized Mike as a child and scared him half to death by pretending to be an intruder to kidnap Mike. Joe was trash.

Katherine was beaten into submission. She tried to divorce Joe many times but Joe wouldn't allow it.

Bruh the Japanese are dying out because they aren't having sex or romance. Something obviously went wrong there.

>The Joke
Your head

Who the fuck? What the fuck? Where the fuck?

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic

The lesson here is black people can be pedophiles too.

We've known that for years about R Kelly.

Only part I pity him for is apparently when his dad would drag him off to Hollywood parties at night against his will, and when he came back he didn’t want to talk to anybody then locked himself in his room to sleep for days

Touching young boys turned MJ white.

But people keep insisting that pedophilia is a white thing.

He "used the episode"... how the fuck... First off, why the fuck would you say that about your own show, that you're responsible for?

>and when he came back he didn’t want to talk to anybody then locked himself in his room to sleep for days
micheal was molested?

I dont know but maybe, but maybe not, but either way it's a good way to get back on the news and free advertising

This dude has a very strange and elaborate imagination concerning child grooming. Has anyone raided his house?

Don't a lot of pedophiles have a history of being abused themselves?

>tl;dr: My thoughts are now facts, because I think so, therefore, it is.
Just nuke America at this point. They are a lost cause.

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If we’re going by per capita in regards to “reported sexual urges for children” then Hispanics are actually the most common pedophiles

>Hispanics are actually the most common pedophiles
That ain't no lie. They love child brides.

why do the jewish pedophiles project so hard?

They literally said in the autopsy that there were no signs that his foreskin had been restored. It was the first thing they thought of.

Note how his new nose was *very* obviously from surgery. A surgically restored foreskin would have been extremely obvious to the professionals examining him.

>the nasty pedophile that fucked 12 yearold girls and watched them have sex with older women. Hell he had one of those damn bitches fuck her own 6 year old niece and film it and send it to him. He married Aaliyah when she was 15 and forced her into an abortion. He was fucking her mama too by the way who was okay with the nigga raping her daughter for coin.
there is no justifiable reason for R.Kelly to still be breathing free air.

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That's a hell of a stretch. The Simpsons episode was barely a footnote on MJ's career; he was even credited anonymously for the role under a pseudonym.

There are so many other things MJ was in that we're actually aimed at kids (think Captain Eo from Disney World) that I can't imagine the Simpsons episode even cracking the top 20 things a kid would find interesting about him.

Simpsons executives are just in full-on damage-control mode because they can't survive losing any portion of their already dwindling fanbase. If they actually thought the MJ episode was unethical, they would've pulled it decades ago when it was actually relevant, not after a Johnny-come-lately documentary with further unverified allegations surfaced decades after the fact.

At least Japan don't give a shit about retarded American "problems". If they weren't retarded in a different way, Japanese would be far better than hick America.

They want to unperson him.

>Gaslighting. You should... probably read some books

>None of the things you listed is "gaslighting."
^this

Gaslighting in the case of sexual abuse an example of is literally the punchline of the Clarissa comics.

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>creepiest
Kek. Off yourself kike.

>Admits you're wrong
>Meaningless response
>Insisting all your detractors must form a cohesive mob
>In that order
Okay retard

No. He is telling the truth - he believes it. Thus it is not libel. You would have to prove in court that Al Jean isn't actually retarded, he's just a liar
Could be defamation.
This is all ignoring that MJ is dead, mind you

Still eating the RadarOnline shit?

>have the Season 3 DVD from back in 2003
>make bootleg copies of it and the DVD commentary
>will be able to sell them on Ebay years from now after the Simpsons writers try to purge this episode from the earth

>muh retarded youtubers said he's guilty so it's true

Honestly. Any one who thinks otherwise drank the koolaid.

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apparently I missed out on something because I haven't heard michael jackson's name in ages

>Meanwhile, in Japan
They sell Manga with child characters being raped.
The country also has a huge Stalking problem

>I don't believe in going through and making judgments on every guest star and saying 'this one was bad, that one was bad,'
Which is exactly what he’s gonna start fucking doing. He and Disney are gonna start banning episodes for attention. If the fanbase can’t put up a fight over something, which it hasn’t been able to since the early 2000s, it’ll keep happening and keep raping what was once considered a great TV show.

>The culture that has serious issues with idol culture and mental health/repression is ignorant to a dead idol being psychologically fucked up.

Oh what a surprise.

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At least these people actually do more productive shit then be fat ass incels with no futures.

>Season 3
>Zombie Simpsons
How depressed do you have to be to think that?

Ahh, gotcha, back you go
>>>/facebook/

Simpsons fags in denial and in full damage control posting

>DVD player won't read disk anymore
Well, fuck my life then.

Micheal Jackson could've got some shit like that poppin' off regardless. He was fucking Michael Jackson.

They had no problem cashing in on the fame until it was to controversial. And even then, that Simpsons episode is a relic lost from public conscious. If anything, he's using this controversy to stir something buzz for The Simpsons. Because God knows these new seasons aren't cutting it.

>Japanese are dying out

They have the same birth rates as ethnic Western Europeans.

>apparently I missed out on something because I haven't heard michael jackson's name in ages
Weinstein produced documentary recently realeased that essentially regurgitates all the same accusations from 30 years ago with no new evidence but numers are gobbling it up and are in the process of deleting Michael Jackson... again.

Not true, while European birthrates aren't healthy, they aren't negative like the Nips.

yeah that's literally the opposite of what happened. he wasn't even circumcised

Yes true, the birthrates are only higher due to immigration.

Completely ignoring the part where he had test tube babies instead of having his own kids? He wasn't interested in sex with women. He'd rather share a bed with little boys.
>But THRILLER!

?

youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

>HOW THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU LOSE MONEY, AL?
Religiously

nigger the first one has vitiligo too

What about the MJ episode of South Park?

el ayuwoki xD

>When pressed about this false purpose, Jean said, "I think it was part of what he used to groom boys. I really don't know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally, but as far as what I think, that's what I think. And that makes me very, very sad."

What. The. Fuck.

Look, I don't know enough about this whole situation to make a judgement on Michael Jackson other than he was a creepy fucker that made good music.

But how the hell can you make a statement, that Michael Jackson used a specific Simpsons episode for child grooming, without any proof, or even an idea of how he went about doing it?

>It wasn't just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool. And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief

That's a statement, not an opinion, but he has nothing to back it up with.

>now
>implying they haven't punched through the bottom years ago

>I’m at the point now that I will defend people I know fucked kids, If only to spite and go against SJWs and metoo culture
It didn’t have to be like this, I used to be on your side goddamnit...

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They weren’t children. They were adult fucking men in 2005.

Claiming he was pressed into it also contradicts the fact that Robson asked to be a witness as he wasn’t called at first and when he later claimed that he was mollested he csaid he didn’t realize that he was abused despite being asked if any of these things happened to him in the 2005 case.

>Being so retarded you can't condemn identity politics AND sexual predators
You were never good.

i really doubt Jackson appearing in an adult TV show would make grooming little boys much easier. he's Michael fucking Jackson, he was (and still is) more famous than Simpsons. Al Jean was just trying to damage control after Apu

I’d rather release the gates to every mental asylum and let every rapist and psycho walk free then ever submit to the feminist dystopia I’m facing

My rage knows no bounds

By what? Removing his music? Yea, good luck with that. His label is still making millions off his music, and they're not about let his music get removed by some nutjobs with baseless accusations.

You faggots need to accept that he was guilty. Only one (((group))) has ever defended him.

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So who did the Jackson's family piss off?

>Jackson's been dead for a decade

Holy shit it has been almost 10 years.
Time flies, especially with stupid shit like what the OP posted is in abundance.

The man might be dead but there is still money to be made!

Mona Lisa is literally an object
With a woman on it
Objectification of a woman!

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>kike trying to do reverse psychology and thinks it'll work on here
YIKES

>I know
Please tell me who win the 2024 Presidential elections, God.

>I really don't know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally,
And yet here we are.

I am going by Mike's character and who he was in life. Nigga wouldn't harm a child ever.

Erect dicks all pretty much look the same - especially to a kid who probably doesn't see a bunch of examples of erect un/circumcised

Oh... no? How... terrible?

I hate them so goddamn much for ruining the world, the future was supposed to be better then this

I’ll never surrender, I’d rather burn the world then let them win and take it over

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Except attitudes change over time. The #MeToo era has made a lot of people reconsider how they think and act when it comes to abuse accusations. People no longer think "well if we can't be 110% sure that it happened I can just ignore that abuse allegation entirely and pretend it isn't a thing" because that's basically leaning towards silent acceptance of abuse because very often things like rape, sexual abuse and harassment are very hard to prove after the fact.

The Jacksons should sue him
This is hurtful slander

MJ wasn't even gay, so why would anyone think he touched these boys ?

So let me get this straight: Scary big noses shadow mens both pushed the accusations ()and defend him at the same time. I probably should convert to judaism,seems like an easy way to access omnipotent and contradictory unlimited powers

Oh fuck off,you'll just shit your pants,do nothing and go back jacking off to hentai/humping your body pillow

>person tells me what other people are telling
>how dare that person tell me things I might actually be interested in

I don't like the idea of banning an epidose but what do journalists have to do with it?

Congratulations on discovering the open secret that channers are angry incels and underage faggots with no solid convictions,just childish contrarianism
Congrats,you grew up,may i say you got "normiepilled" or some shit

That's just mean the demonization of journalism by the far-right/far-left/extremists of all fringe worked is so mainstreamed that the fags around here blame them for everything like they blame the jews everytime some cunts shoot a school

>pedos still butthurt about their idol being outed as the scum he was
lol

>Mike's character
But user.
That's exactly all it was. A character.
Mike's entire persona in front of the character was an act. That voice is a falsetto he put on when he was 'on'. The problem was he was almost always on his whole life. You can hear his real voice in some of the background vocals on his songs, his natural speaking voice is deep af.
He build himself a massive fucking fortress/ranch for himself for a reason. He did not let anyone what kind of person he really is.

Mortus nihil nisi bonum.

>grrrr I can bark the evil word like a fanatic and convince myself I'm always right. those wrongthinkers will learn to obey me OR ELSE
yikes. Enjoy your fourth Reich, america.

Depends on where you live, my country still has some high quality jouralism.

all journalism is AI now

>MJ wasn't even gay
word is one of his songwriters from the J5 days flew out with him to Hawaii and turnt him out. Older guy that went on to be an actor and later a minister.

Maybe where you live

Good luck with that, MJ's legacy is so great even people from secluded tribes away from modern civilization have heard of him and love his music.
>youtu.be/mPwaQtQotQw
>1:43

But HE'S DEAD. Even if this wild statement was somehow true, it wouldn't matter because Micheal Jackson isn't using this to groom little kids anymore, because he's dead.
To take to a bit more extreme, this is like demolishing the pyramids because you think its structure promotes slavery since it is an impressive landmark made by slaves.

There are many who thinks that the pyramids wasen't built by slaves, infact there is evidence to suggest it wasent built by slaves.

Simpsons has hit rock bottom

This mentality shows why they are a tribe instead of an empire. Why go to the moon? whats wrong with you.
>we did not have so many eclipses before
reminds me a co worker who insists cancer did not exist until the 20th century.

God you're so fucking stupid and a perfect example of a pseudo-intellectual.

his estate still can be sued and there thinking is the same as with the confederate statues
think? its proven fact that they were not built by slaves.

Yeah they're never going to stop being a superstitious tribe but the point was that MJ is so popular that even they heard of hum and they won't care about hum being a kiddie diddler.

>the latest epic anti-SJW thing is to defend Michael Jackson
>same people who rant on and on about the left "pushing pedophilia"

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He JUST said "if they weren't retarded in a different way", and you managed to just glean over that. Also, nah.

oh yeah, they totally found cp in his fucking bedroom and yet never bothered to actually charge him with posession of cp. It definitely wasnt a fucking coffee table bestseller that he probably didnt even buy himself.

they would care and prob take it as more "proof" of white mens degeneracy
>I saw him on tv once
does not mean they know a lot about him, hell half informed people are more likely to buy into the pedo thing

I don't know what to believe. I think he may have done it but not in malicious thinking. MJ is so fucked in the head I don't know if he's that sane enough to pull something like this. Did he diddle? Probably. Out of maliciousness knowingly? Unsure. I will wait until there is more tangible evidence that can't be disputed like r. Kelly.

The only one he paid was Jordan chandler because his lawyers advised him to pay the 22 million and go on tour, make that back in a single night, then give up hundreds of millions for everybody involved to fight the civil suit.

Jordan chandler later admitted everything he said was coached by his father and step father under the influence of sodium amythol (known to produce false memories)
His father, Evan Chandler is on tape admitting to his plans of blackmail and extortion
Jordan chandler's descriptions of jackson's penis claimed he was circumcised, he was not as his autopsy showed.

Furthermore, Jordie emancipated himself and never spoke to his parents again and has refused to be contacted by anyone about this further. Evan Chandler committed suicide right after jackson did, presumably out of guilt.

>They sell Manga with child characters being raped.
How is that bad?

The woman who said that later admitted that it was false and lisa marie presley has said many times that Michael was DEFINITELY straight. and his kids were all concieved by normal means. His bodyguards and drivers talked about his girlfriends which he was extremely secretive about. Also his high pitched effminate public voice is not his real speaking voice. But you'll almost never hear him using his actual speaking voice (which is much deeper and closer to what he sounded like when he was in the late jackson five years) because he never used it if he knew he was being recorded, save one instance in the beginning of a video with chris tucker

>I will wait until there is more tangible evidence that can't be disputed
There already was. Ten fucking years ago. MJ is innocent

Nah?

I meant of MJ diddling a boy on camera ,like the new evidence on r. Kelly.

His ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley said that they had a regular sex life. Even after they divorced and they were fighting over assets, she never changed her story and she has always maintained that she doesn't believe that he molested any children. She said that if she ever thought that he had been guilty of hurting a child that she would "hang him from a tree."

>I'll wait for tangible evidence that he diddled kids
>but I believe he did it anyway

Razorfist did a series where he addressed all of the charges against Michael Jackson and refuted it with solid evidence (court documents, etc.).

youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs (Part 1)
youtu.be/9yTTEwBLfUQ (Part 2)
youtu.be/zYx0vLfpRYY (Part 3)

I'm still on the fence about it all. I only believe half of it, but not as heavily as other anti-MJ anons here.

youtube.com/watch?v=OWXDDWqPTn8

response youtubers are always worse than the people they are responding to

He was under investigation by the FBI and by multiple law enforcement agencies for several years. There are some serial killers who haven't been investigated this throughly. If there were photographic or videotaped evidence, it probably would have been found by now. With R. Kelly, the tapes were out for years before someone finally did something about it.

I was molested by my mom's peurto rican boyfriend. I got redpilled very young.

>He was under investigation by the FBI
He wasn't, actually. If you read the public FBi records, they state that "the FBI provided technical and investigative assistance" to California law enforcement agencies, but they made no investigation themselves. What they did investigate were threats made against Jackson.
vault.fbi.gov/Michael Jackson

They also supposedly started investigating child molestation charges against him in the 80s, but it was quickly dropped before it could get anywhere because Jackson was was due to receive an award from Reagan.

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>me watch documentary so now me know truth
people are slaves, no lower than slaves, lower than animals, they are tools to be programmed

We know very well how Ancient Egyptians built their monuments at this point. We've found entire towns that specialized on building public monuments, records of worker strikes, their signatures on the monuments themselves, their wages and so on. It's an absolute fact that the pyramids (and the Valley of Kings etc.) were not built by slaves.
Fun fact: Egyptian workers could go on a strike if they thought they weren't being given enough make up. The kohl eyeliner was both for aesthetics and worked as primitive sunglasses.

Less than 10 years ago making fun of MJ for being a pedo was low ball comedy, everyone knew and didn't care for decades. Now some faggot made this a new front in the endless Culture War and now everyone has to pick a pre-determined stance that fits their side in the "war".

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I don't give a shit about whether or not MJ was a pedo or not. My biggest problem with this is why they are doing this now? Why didn't they pull this episode after his first court case back in the mid 90s? Or during his case in the mid 2000s? Did they just believe he didn't do it until this documentary came out?

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As previously stated in the thread, you can't legally defame the dead, so you can outright "come out" after someone died and say they raped you in a broom closet in 1994, publish a book saying it, etc, and they can't protect their legacy from the grave.

More allegations have appeared and the general public now has a slightly better understanding how abuse works. Popular culture used to show abuse as some horror movie, but the reality is usually far more insidious and complicated.

That can be said for many actors using shows as a tool under the guise of "guest star"