Disenchantment

August

I feel that way, too. I think the characters themselves and the visual jokes were all okay, but also very underwhelming and somewhat lacking in love. Especially if you're used to Futurama.

Honestly it was just as good as season 1 of Futurama. I feel that folks tend to forget just how mediocre that show was too when it first started.

Spring or summer according to the Josh Weistein podcast.

it's because it reminds us of futurama but it sucks so hard that we don't get the same feeling as watching futurama

The characters weren't consistent. Bean acts like an amoral trouble maker in early episodes and innocent and skittish in later episodes.

This. At least Futurama was deeply human.

>Fry is a fish out of water male idiot stereotype, but his heart is almost always in the right place, sometimes to his own detriment by putting people, especially women in his life, too high on a pedestal
>Lela is your hot, but deeply insecure career woman whose spent a lifetime clawing her way up from poverty and fighting men to advance her work career only to get stuck in a dead-end job; eventually becomes a ship captain that validates her need to show her competence, but her life feels empty still and she still can't get over how she doesn't know her past or her self-consciousness about her looks
>entire central relationship between Fry and Leela revolves around having feelings for someone for the wrong reasons
>sprinkle in side-characters that act as springboards for jokes outside central relationship, along with a near infinite array of future technology that can do the same thing, and you have Futurama

What did Disenchantment have? A plot that ironically starts off well enough (a woman who wishes for independence outside of a very restricting path for her goes adventuring to understand the virtues and pitfalls about both conforming and rebelling) and completely loses it's direction because it wants to be serialized and parody GoT too much.

Disenchantment proved to me what I already knew: that Goering isn't a genius and Futurama was a happy accident.

Yes, but as points out, Futurama didn't exactly start out firing on all cylinders either, the first season was pretty much just wacky sci-fi shenanigans with little in the way of character development. While it certainly wasn't the best, I think that what they were building up in the latter half of Disenchantment's first season was promising and I trust Oakley and Weinstein to build on that and polish the show's execution. Personally, I think it's biggest problem was timing, a lot of the jokes seemed to end awkwardly and there were a lot of weird silences.

I"m just gonna wait for the porn.

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there's like 90 lewd pictures of bean yet none of this scene for some reason.

Bean bitches about adventures but doesn't do anything for them and stays in the fortress. She goes from troublemaker to submissive passive-aggressive bitch instead of trying to really do something about it. The show could work better if Bean fucked off and went to travel while you still had a plotline with the King trying to find her but still have to do his daily life.

But since were talking about Groening, he tried to capture the usual setting of Futurama but failed in doing so. Doesn't help Elfo is a bart clone and the little devil doesn't pull proper jokes when you expect them

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It's nowhere near as bad as modern Simpsons but it is also nowhere near as good as even S11 Simpsons which already was somewhat mediocre.
All in all is a painfully average series.

Also literally 90% of the people on Yea Forums who actualy thought it was good are waifufags

Since the rest of the show is already confirmed to come out one per year, it can probably be assumed it’ll come out around the same time every year.

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There are LOTS of things that haven't been done.
But it does seem most GOOD artist avoid the show altogether sadly.

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Just like the other Groening shows. In hindsight I really don't know why I expected the porn to be good this time.

I know that all Matt Groening characters have no chin and a huge upper lip but something about Bean's design is especially hideous

Hey, there's some good artists making porn of Bean. Especially that one picture of luci fucking her in the mouth as her eyes roll up. Plus we even got Spazkid and freako making porn when the show was announced

Nstat34 aka nikisupostat exists for Futurama AND The Simpsons. Disenchantment seems to have more artists but it'll never have that skillied of a 2d audio porn animator.

There was no straight man to react to weird situations, you saw Bean having to keep changing his personality to suit the story.

I'm hoping the second season gets the characters right. It was actually much better in the second half of the series when it focused more on a running plot. Makes me wonder if they should go all in on a plot and make it less episodic.

>the king actually ended up being one of the better characters

Suprised me a bit given how hard it was not to think of the Futurama Character he sounded like.

you implying bender is bad?

He wasn't channeling Bender, he was channeling the brooklyn guy in a dirty vest whose name I can't be bothered to look up.

Sal? And yeah, the king was honestly the best character.

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I unironically am waiting for the new season specifically for King Zog

Helped that they gave him actual depth and made him surprisingly relateable. First episode or two he seemed like a one note character

Also kinda hoping the step-mom and her kids get some screentime as they were pretty underexplored.

This. From the very first episode, you have Elfo leave the elf place because he wasn't always happy and immediately after he leaves, he acts like he doesn't understand what sadness and pain is at all.

Bean mellows after she makes peace with Luci. It was an indicator that he was actually having an impact on her behavior.

No real main characters. The main three have the personality of "That wacky over the top side character" but no normal guy. You got Bean who is a Bender stand-in, and two pets with a single personality each, one of which is also a Bender stand-in. There is no normal guy that balances out the weird shit happening. Instead you see the series from the point of view of three one note caricatures and episodes turn into goofy hijinks, while actual plot is happening in the background. Problem is that actual plot is really interesting and brings you in.

>had no plot or direction at start
>villains sat around and did nothing but watch the main characters 95% of the time
>relies a lot on the idea that just seeing characters drink/do drugs is funny in of itself

>king's monster wife started off interesting
>until you meet her people and find out they're just swamp Japanese

>demon starts off as a monster that just wants to see people get hurt and remains that way most the season
>becomes genuinely sad at the end when Elfo died with no arc or attachment shown beforehand

That said, it did get interesting around the end, but it was otherwise pretty weak and dull until that point. I'll be surprised if it actually comes back because I don't think most people sat through the whole thing to see it get better.

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He did try to make fantasy Futurama but did not have a Leela, or even a ordinary early season Fry. We just got wacky idiot Fry.

>>relies a lot on the idea that just seeing characters drink/do drugs is funny in of itself

Apparently Groening thinks just seeing a cartoon character drink alcohol is itself hilarious because he does this all the time. Bender was like a weird parody of an 80s PSA, Simpsons had characters drinking things constantly, and now we have it again here. Random characters getting drunk or high but with no punchline. Like drinking is the punchline.

It's because the characters were so schizophrenic and all over the place. Other anons have already explained the changes in their attitudes from episode to episode. Not to mention the setting was kind of bland. It was a generic medieval setting with a bit of weird magic.

Disenchantment also couldn't decide what it wanted to be. One moment it seemed like your standard adult comedy and the next it seemed like they tried too hard to be serious with an over arching story.

>Like drinking is the punchline.
If you're depressed it kind of is.

To be fair the last 3-4 episodes we're solid plot

But it was terrible.

Yeah they were. That's the thing though. Disenchantment (as a whole) felt like a giant pilot episode for 2 or 3 show ideas put together.

Overall, it is good background noise and has it moments. The main problem is Futurama has set the bar so high that it has a lot of catching up to do before fans will warm more up to it.

I really hope season 2 more flushed out. It has potential. That much is for sure.

Instead of wondering when Disenchantment is coming back, I'm waiting for Aggretsuko.

It's just weird seeing a new Groening show in general.

It's kind funny when the alchie princess, the demon, and the goodie two-shoes are socializing with booze. Or the demon is dumb enough to drink sacramental wine. Other than that BOOZE is not always a punchline.

As a personal who is by all definitions an alcoholic, it can be funny, and BOOZE can be the punchline, even alcoholism can be the joke, but not all the damned time. Even Monty Python overusing BOOZE is funny if you do it right, but that's not what he's doing.