It's fucking impossible to look for discussions on this show online because of the name being so fucking generic in 2019, so I'm just going to ask it here:
Is ReBoot worth watching? I heard it becomes more and more serialized as it goes, and that the characters develop in interesting ways. Should I give it a chance?
There's some good eps, but the show really starts at Painted Windows and just gets better from there.
It is a product of its time, so it does look pretty bad but all in all I'd say it was good.
Kevin Roberts
yeah
Elijah Evans
The show is a damn underrated gem. The third season was so ahead of storytelling for cartoons and would still be considered huge if done today.
Oliver Gonzalez
Unless you grew up on it, I doubt you'll get much out of it besides Megabyte. It does have its moments though and when shit gets real by season 3, boy does it ever. You know what, you should watch it.
I think it's worth watching but I grew up with it, which made it more personal. Its long development time meant the show grew up with its target audience at the time, and made enzo into a man that kids looked up to. His journey has a satisfying payoff.
No idea what new viewers think of it and it's aged CG. Season 1 is episodic but a good time. Season 2 has more of a story that sets the stage for the rest of season 3 which concludes the story. Season 4 is 2 tv movies spliced into a season.
Jaxson Watson
I didn't grow up on ReBoot, I only ever saw the S4 TV movie as a kid, but I really enjoyed it when I binged the whole series. So I don't think you have to grow up on it to enjoy it.
Lincoln Bailey
I wonder why they didn't reboot Reboot. Just update the aesthetics a little so it doesn't look like the fucking 90s, make the CGI bearable, and it's watchable again.
Aaron Williams
So you are familiar with the style and graphics of the time. That's good. You'd be amazed how often that stops people from enjoying anything.
Ryan Sanders
Absolutely. It's easily my favorite take on the "world inside your computer" concept, before that became a cliche. It's also one of the first, and leagues better than similar settings that preceded it, such as Tron.
Imagine a city plagued by three supervillains.
The first of these is a tyrannical dictator who has brought one-eighth of the city under his complete control. He is unstoppably strong, seemingly indestructible, and can extend knife-like claws from his knuckles. With a single touch, he can make any machine or weak-minded person his devoted slave. But worst of all is his strategic genius, which allows him to always stay a step ahead.
In another part of the city, reduced to ruins by a past disaster, dwells a mad reality warper. Able to create, destroy, or change anything with a mere thought, her only limitation is her own emotional instability.
Finally, the last antagonist of our setting, is the godlike being who created it. At random times, he isolates parts of the city and forces all who dwell there to compete against him in unpredictable challenges. Should they fail to defeat him, that part of the city is destroyed, and all living inhabitants are reduced to mindless slugs.
The only defense the people of the city have is a young and optimistic protector with a wrist-mounted device that can transform into a suite of various weapons and tools.
That's ReBoot's starting point. And it only gets better from there.
Be warned, however, that the series is unfinished, and ends on a cliffhanger.
Owen Sanders
OP here. Alright, you guys convinced me, I'll give it a chance.
Daniel Morgan
The first season is a pretty standard kid's show with some really bad episodes mixed in (there are a few good ones and some that set up plot points that come into play much, much later down the road). Season 2 takes a while to transition out of that, but then it gets really, really good.
Easton Baker
They kind of did? Only they made it some kind of sentai ripoff and its horrible.
Wyatt Reed
I swear I saw a scene somewhere with Hexadecimal forcefully kissing the main dude while he's tied up and it was way too hot for a cartoon. Someone should make a good 3D model and rig her so we can have some nice juicy steamy pornography
Connor Wood
Imagine how fucking depressed the User was when he could never finish a fucking videogame.
Jaxson Stewart
This is a beautiful description of why Reboot fucking rules
Cameron Bailey
I remember they did an Evil Dead spoof and that's about it.
Jace Bell
The CGI has aged terribly, and there's a lot of episodes that are just really bad, but it's also a show where a small child's eye gets gouged out onscreen
I don't have an episode list handy, but it's worth starting from season 3 and just being prepared for season 4 to end very abruptly. I can't remember if season 2 is any good
Matthew Harris
The show was amazing. Too bad the Spanish language dub from S2 and S3 is missing
Mason Hill
>The CGI has aged terribly
That's one thing that bothers me about Reboot and Beast Wars to the extent that I kinda wish somebody would redo them in 2D animation since that won't age a tenth as badly. Just use the original soundtrack.
Even redoing them in 3D is just going to hit the same problem in a few decades.
Angel Walker
Hexadecimal is the ultimate baby's first why boner.
if you can't sit down and watch it yourself, FUCK YOU.
you fucking zoom zoom
Hudson Reed
I may be the only person who really likes the first season but so be it. The show started very strong and the stuff in season 3 wouldn't have been nearly as good if they jumped to that kind of story instead of building their way there.
Isaiah Long
all that bondage they got past censors
Landon Nelson
I think it looks better than almost anything made since but that's because they focused on good facial proportions
Colton Barnes
the only real problem with this is that, after ending on a cliffhanger and getting uncanceled, they went on to end it on a cliffhanger twice more, and the last one didn't get picked up again what kind of asshole does that to their fans? each time it came back it was for fewer and fewer episodes. TAKE THE HINT. WRITE AN ENDING
Lincoln Reed
It's floating around on YouTube, but if you want to watch it legally (and in good quality), it's also on VRV.
Some people can't get past the weird and dated CG. But if you can, it's an interesting little piece of animation history. Goes places you don't expect, but I can't say it has the same impact as it originally did now that computers and cyberspace no longer seem so magic.
But yeah, the first season is pretty pointless and kind of lame.
Camden Allen
It was great! I haven't watched it recently so I'm sure it looks dated, but that could add to it's charm.
Jaxson Miller
Not even a question. Watch it already
Chase Ramirez
Frankly, it looked ugly even when it was new. It's not like people were blind back then; that's the time where the term "uncanny valley" first became a household turn. You had to pick your subject matter very carefully when dabbling in early CG. Pixar knew that. Reboot? Well, it had the right idea, but I mean, just look at those faces.
Joshua Hughes
This guy is on the right track. It was unique, but not groundbreaking. Back then, just having cartoons on TV was the goal anyway. Pre-internet, and pre-cable for the most part.
Aaron Edwards
I wonder what reboot would look like if it was made today, but at the same time I think the 90's cgi was part of what made it.
>Megabyte mocks Matrix to fight him like a man, hand to hand >the madman actually does it >punches Megabyte so hard he fucking dents him god this show was amazing.
Luke Jackson
I doubt you'd ever get anything that interesting about a show focusing on modern internet
A big part of ReBoot was that most people in the mid-90s had an extremely vague idea of how computers worked or what they could or could not do. They were fucking magic as far as anyone knew. Kind of like how some people today think Blockchain is the future while not knowing what a blockchain even is, but most people, for everything computer-related
Hell, Superhuman Samurai Cyber-Squad had an episode where a hacker cut off food supply chains by writing a virus that created an actual real-world wall around the country. Even a Sentai Show couldn't do something so obviously silly nowadays, but it made sense to people back then.
Ryan Bailey
I've seen literally every fucking episode of the first series and let me be the one to say, NO, IT FUCKING ISN'T.
Reboot has like 3 good non Hex centric episodes and the rest is a burning dumpster fire of bad 90s CGI and boring ass plots and characters doing boring ass bullshit.
Tony Jay's always gave a fantastic performance but megabyte was probably one of his best. Man you could not throw a rock without hitting a fantastic villain voiced by Tony Jay in the 90s. Damn shame we didn't have him longer.
Ian Lewis
Adult Enzo was third season.
Wyatt Gray
God I miss him. Tony Jay was too awesome for this world. Any villain voiced by him was an instant classic.
Watch seasons 1-3. Season 4 was unfinished, everyone was out of character, things went against established worldbuilding, and people's faces were weirdly animated.
Adam Clark
My mistake, my memory of this show was extremely hazy. Still the scene where Enzo's eye gets sliced up was a complete shock to me when I was a kid because I never thought that would happen in a show like reboot.
Aaron Adams
You're dumb to assume because it happened in a silly show people believed it was realistic.
James Baker
Don't be so obtuse. He's entirely right. It's not like people really thought that the beeps and boops in their computer were sentient beings that you killed every time you played minesweeper. But the cultural and physical significance of computers were such a new and fascinating concept. There was so much romance tied to them at the time and the mock-mythology around the concept that ReBoot did certainly effected people back then in a way that it simply can't effect people now.
I remember how much magic there was in seeing a link to a website in a paper add and wondering what brand new, far-off world that link could unlock. These days we just call that "spam."
Bentley Johnson
Planescape Torment alwasy reminded me a little of Reboot. Probably because the nameless one looks like bob
Reboot fucking sucks. Shit animation, shit writing, shit characters, shit character designs. Some of the worst that 90s animation has to offer, and talk about aging like a pile of shit. It has its fans and I get that it's probably just not for me but I hated this show as a kid, hate it now. Don't see how anyone could either get into this or take its melodramatics seriously.
The Twin City fucking EXPLODED, I assume that was representative of a hardware failure. The User probably removed the dead components. Mainframe simply had a software crash and could be restarted.
Joseph Thomas
>the only real problem with this is that, after ending on a cliffhanger and getting uncanceled, they went on to end it on a cliffhanger twice more, and the last one didn't get picked up again
It only ended on two cliffhangers. Season 2 because of ABC/Disney and Season 4 because of Cartoon Network. Season 3 ended how they wanted with 99% of the story wrapped up aside from Daemon.
>what kind of asshole does that to their fans?
They didn't do anything. They worked with the funds they had and the number of episodes the funded allowed for.
>each time it came back it was for fewer and fewer episodes.
Season 2 was 10 episodes, and then season 3 was 16. Also it only ended because Disney bought up ABC and only wanted their stuff on the network. Season 4 was only 8 episodes because they originally planned for 16, which was reduced to 12 when funding was also reduced.
>TAKE THE HINT. WRITE AN ENDING
They have an ending. The company that owns the IP (Rainmaker) won't let them finish the cliffhanger.
Julian Hernandez
Season 2's finale wasn't even a series finale at any point. Sure, ABC dropped them in the states, but YTV was still on board in Canada.
Ryder Anderson
God, that one's begging for sound. Those long close-ups of Matrix just lying there you could heard Megabytes foot steps in the distance getting closer and closer without being able to see shit. Genuinely good atmosphere for that whole scene.
Tyler Nelson
Yes, yes, and yes.
Although it declines in season 4 and the netflix reboot makes people sad.
I appreciate that its a product of its time and watching it now is hard, but by the end of season 2 the stakes are completely different (ie. they exist). You can't judge the series as a whole by the first season, its completely different.
Liam Nguyen
Woah, I totally forgot about this one and don't remember much about it but the images posted in this thread are hitting my nostalgia hard. Is it available anywhere to stream?
Caleb White
>Is it available anywhere to stream? How do people still ask this in this day and age of the internet? Nearly EVERYTHING is streamed somewhere. Just fucking google "watch [show]" and you'll find a billion links.
Ryan Wood
The ending of Painted Windows haunted me for a long fucking time. I watched enough Batman as a kid to have seen some weird climaxes back then but the entire tone of that episode was pretty light-hearted up to the point ripping the villain's fucking face off to reveal a universe-sucking black hole in its place.
It's unreal how quickly and how pedestrian technology has become. My father was an early computer nut and had everything from the VIC-20 onwards, I spent my childhood playing crude as fuck videogames on the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 and it was like diving in a parallel dimension, HOLY SHIT COMPUTERS. I learned some C64 BASIC coding so that I could display random colorful lines on the monitor and it felt like I was hacking spacetime. Then I spent years and years on the Amiga 500 and it was insane, Prince of Persia, Monkey Island, you actually had Workbench with a real GUI, you could use a mouse to do shit, you could draw and save your drawings on a floppy. Videogames had fucking intro movies youtube.com/watch?v=55jpHprP_ao Then I got a SEGA Mega Drive with Streets of Rage and SFII Turbo. Then one Christmas I got gifted a PSX with the first Tekken and I remember being in awe at how fucking insane the graphics looked. The shitty CGI opening blew my mind unlike anything I had ever seen youtube.com/watch?v=_7MbinD1RpI Then the web came out and it suddenly turned into 56k internet nudes and eagerly waiting for the tits to load, and downloading songs on eDonkey. Web 1.0. My shitty Final Fantasy 7 fansite with glowing buttons on mouseover and my fanfictions. I remember one fanwriter who had a website with a Clubbed to Death sample as BG music and it was the coolest thing, but it was all already so watered down.
Now it's all completely gone, all that wonder is gone and the internet is fucking social media garbage.
Good replacement voice for him, but a vast inferior design that is even less detailed. Megabyte should not be stronger than Hex. It ruins their whole power vs smarts dynamic.
For me, the real tone shift was afterwards. Up to that point you still kind of expect an ass-pull where everyone gets out fine. Dot was putting together a plan to get Enzo and them out of there after the game was over and everything. They devoted a full 20 seconds of silence to let that twist sink in while the remaining cast just stares speechless at an empty void where a chunk of city (and people) was supposed to be. youtube.com/watch?v=mJeOR9_vIno
Not entirely. I'm sure someone could do much better.
>Megabyte should not be stronger than Hex. It ruins their whole power vs smarts dynamic.
It does, and that's why the TGC creator and writers are all idiots.
Benjamin Garcia
>this episode happens >eagerly await the next season >it reveals Enzo and Andraia as adults >complete tonal and plot shift >never felt more hype for a show as a kid
Maybe it's nostalgia coloring my senses, but I can't think of a modern day children's cartoon that completely changes tone and steers into territory that dark, yet manages to do it so seemlessly and keep its "essence".
There wasn't a season break between those episodes. Since you're not the first in the thread to confuse the seasons, Here's a list:
Season 1 (1994-1995) The Tearing Racing the Clock The Quick and the Fed The Medusa Bug The TIFF In the Belly of the Beast The Crimson Binome Enzo the Smart Wizards, Warriors, and a Word From Our Sponsor The Great Brain Robbery Talent Night Identity Crisis, Part 1 Identity Crisis, Part 2
Season 2 (1995-1996) Infected High Code When Games Collide Bad Bob Painted Windows AndrAIa Nullzilla Gigabyte Trust No One Web World Wars
Season 3 (1997-1998) To Mend and Defend Between a Raccoon and a Hard Place Firewall Game Over Icons Where No Sprite Has Gone Before Number 7 The Episode With No Name The Return of The Crimson Binome The Edge of Beyond Web Riders on the Storm Mousetrap Megaframe Showdown System Crash End Prog
Season 4 (2001) Daemon Rising Cross Nodes What's Love Got To Do With It? Sacrifice My Two Bobs Life's a Glitch Null Bot of the Bride Crouching Binome, Hidden Virus
Ryder Fisher
I remember being impressed that the eye gouge was permanent and not something that would be undone by the game ending.
Reboot had a lot of balls.
Caleb Garcia
Reminder: the original AndrAIa never saw Enzo again.
Adrian Gray
The concept of seasonal television didn't even register as a kid, so I had no idea what Reboot's were. Thanks for the clarification.
I think I'd still like the first season if I rewatched it desu. I recently looked up the episode where Mike The TV goes into the game with them and where Enzo slows down time to be smarter, the humor in both was pretty charming.
Eli Butler
Reboot when ?
Luke Lewis
user, I'm sorry.
Robert Young
"I'm beginning to think she likes it." - Megabyte
Then the episode involving the formation of Gigabyte, with Bob asking Hex what would happen if she and Megabyte merged and Hex responds with a joke "The next generation! [Laughter]" which if you were paying attention would be obvious due to exact exposition by Hexadecimal that Megabyte is her brother. Yey incest jokes.
The only time I watched reboot was when nothing else was on. I did grow up on seeing it through re runs around 2010 so really it probably wasn't the best way to watch it. I also thought the cgi was horrendous and that it all had this weird tone to it, so I never watched anymore than I had to. Like I said, I was around 10 and couldn't grasp the fact that cgi wasn't always good.
Dylan Wilson
Yes. Absolutely. If you can get past the 90s raditude and poorly aged parodies enough to hit season 3 you're in for a hell of a ride.
Tyler Powell
I think in the modern era of actually GOOD cg, the shitty 90s cg art style actually helps set the tone of the show. Back in the 90s it was actually better animated than a lot of CG shows, so it's not an intentional aspect of it, but it works out in its favor.
Aaron Wood
I loved it as a kid, but I'm not sure how well anyone that isn't used to how CGI used to look would be able to take the graphics.
Lincoln Perez
Someone should re-animate Reboot
Jordan Sanchez
n-no? there is no Reboot reboot till this day, right g-guys?
Jace Gomez
remind me why did they change their icons in that episode
Xavier White
correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I remember, changing your "icons" would make the game treat you as an asset of the game and not as an intruder. That means the game won't kill you/transform you into a indless worm, but at the cost of being removed with all the game assets from the mainboard (beng vanished to another place)
Julian Lopez
That's correct. Mouse reprogrammed the icons earlier in the episode as a suggestion from AndrAIa to use in case of an emergency.
Lincoln Jones
People just casually cloning themselves is one of the things I loved about ReBoot's setting.
Jason Wood
I caught an episode on TV once and could immediately feel how superior the writing was to many shows at the time. The animation also looks way better in motion than it does is still frames, but still isn't great due to limitations and TV budget. I'm sure it's a good show, probably one of Canada's best.
Jeremiah Wilson
I honestly never realized you could finish videogames till I was like 13. I thought they all just got harder and harder until it was impossible
Jose Scott
That was my favourite episode when all I had were VCR recordings. It's endearing seeing how aged the animation has gotten, but at the time I was too busy wowed by the story and the cast. I loved Megabyte's voice acting. Even so, the times when shit got real were great - if only I'd gotten to see the final season.
>The only defense the people of the city have is a young and optimistic protector with a wrist-mounted device that can transform into a suite of various weapons and tools. Glitch, ANYTHING!
Isaiah Myers
No, they gave you Guardian code because no network wanted the reboot property as it was. Reboot was a hard sell to make when it came out, which why they tacked on the "Bob wants to find the user" in the first intro and never went anywhere with it. Because the network needed something to make the show more palatable and even then they did not understand the show, was lukewarm for the show, and constantly meddled with it before ditching it when it got slightly violent.
Guardian Code was something more familiar and got made over the objections of practically everyone who worked on the original show because to the man selling it, making something was better than nothing.
Justin Smith
I was about 11 years old when I saw some episodes of ReBoot back when it was on Cartoon Network, but I didn't really like it at the time. However I'm watching it now for pretty much the first time and I'd recommend watching it too.
Dylan Brown
it's one of those shows like Samurai Jack or Courage for me where you don't appreciate it when your younger because it's too scary and/or too serialized. I always liked silly comedies as a child, and I think most kids do.
Jaxon Parker
Really? I used to love serialized stuff and most of my friends did too. I got the impression from how quickly anime caught on that that was what most kids liked
James Foster
Most of my family and friends growing up didn't care for action cartoons. My dad preferred funny and my mom preferred cute stuff. I just took on their taste and when an action cartoon came on I got bored or pretended to hate it. Then one day I watched The Last Airbender and my opinion changed heavily.
I don't think my parents would have let me watch ReBoot as a child either, it would have been a bit much for young me and I was a fucking pussy.
Gabriel Evans
>it would have been a bit much for young me and I was a fucking pussy. I fucking loved those intense action shows, and I was such a pussy that I was afraid to play super mario because the sound that played when you died frightened me
Anthony Brooks
>No, they gave you Guardian code because no network wanted the reboot property as it was.
And ironically, no network wanted The Guardian Code either. They ended up putting it on Netflix, who are desperate for more content and would have taken anything.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but still, how different things could have been if they had known.
Wyatt Perez
>that most people in the mid-90s had an extremely vague idea of how computers worked or what they could or could not do. People nowadays are only slightly more aware of how computers and the internet work. They're still by and large consumers. That's why Microsoft and Apple continue to be giants in the software market while open source programs remain a niche thing.
A Reboot remake would require actual software engineers among its writing crew instead of simply adding tech-y names on quintessential fantasy tropes and characters.
Lucas Gomez
I still blame pic related for my fetish of crazy evil broken chicks.
I have no idea how I had such a huge crush in her and yet have absolutely no interest in any bondage shit, besides maybe light restraints if the lady is super into it like my ex was.