What's the ugliest artstyle you've ever seen in a comic?

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inb4 a bunch of capefuckers post a bunch of non-house style shit claiming it's worse than this

>Marvel got the lowest art standards in the entire industry.

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Still better than the cgi thing.

Jesus Christ, there go my sides.

Who drew this abomination

>"It ain't easy being cheese"

The CGI thing looks shitty because it's CGI. The Dark Knight Strikes Again looks shitty because nobody told Miller to go fuck himself until he started with the kill all Muslims bullshit.

Is that Dum Dum Duggan in a War Machine armor?

Can you even call that a "drawing"?

i think its fun and doodly. its frank millers fan fiction so who gives a fuck if he draws it drunk? TDKR does everything the setting has to offer with pure old srs batman, and theres no shortage of other hardcore edgey batman so who cares how frank miller draws?

I'd call it a series of lines made through tying a pen to an epileptics hand during a rave.

Is not just CGI, is lazy cgi, the guy clearly used already finished models and then put mustaches and hair on it, plus the fact they are barelly moving at each page.

I can't believe someone was paid to do something a 13 year old who never drew anything in his life could do in 30-40 minutes

A man simply known as Christian Moore.

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Fuck. I thought it was an old 2000 webcomic by looking at it.

And this is what people were telling themselves as they weren't telling Miller to go fuck himself.

>the guy clearly used already finished models
It's more like they're using a modeling program that can only operate in presets like a character builder...because that's exactly the case. Custom models don't craft themselves and no company is shelling out to have custom CGI for a fucking comic.

>Baki
>Bad

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The only thing worse than the art is the writing.

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Even though tons of people compliment it, TNG: Mirror Broken has a butt ugly art style that looks like someone traced poloroids then adjusted the coloring in some free to use photoshop clone.

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I thought it was cgi

Ever heard of Bob Fingerman?

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you have no idea how art works, how manga differs from comics, and how to argument

please post something you consider good so we can laugh at you

nah

but that's not bad at all

Mike and Raph both look really concerned about something.

>marvel.fandom.com/wiki/US_War_Machine_2.0_Vol_1
Good lord sometimes i feel bad for Co but this is too much. No one should have made this

I see your "War Machine 2.0" and raise you a "Miss Fury Digital First"

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well a lot of people give rob liefeld shit for his artstyle, i don't know much except that he has trouble drawing feet and that when he draws characters, he makes them look like him or whatever. honestly i think these days your more likely to get picked up by the industry for having a shitty artstyle.
as for what you said about baki you are clearly mistaken.

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>Those background soldiers faces

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I fucking Love Liefield. His art is fucked up, broken and irrealistic of course, but it's unique, it works greats in doing what it have to, and NO ONE can do what he does.

Baki arte is ugly but ugly doesn't always mean bad or shitty.

Fuck off Liefeld.

Way better than CGI bullshit.

that looks fine you jim lee worshipping ape

>NO ONE can do what he does
No one WANTS to do what he does.

Chester Cheetah's looking pretty fine

This is pretty good. I bet you like trash like Luck Star or Gweenpol because is "cute"

I don't know much about Baki but I strongly suspect art like this is based on Buddhist art of fearsome divine or demonic figures, surely to indicate that the characters are not normal people.

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baki's art is an acquired taste

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The girl looks fine in this it just looks like the artist had no idea how to draw the Ninja Turtles. Which is bad considering he's drawing a Ninja Turtles book

Reminder that US War Machine 2.0 was coming out AT THE SAME TIME as
>Ultimates
>Bendis Daredevil
>Morrison New X-Men
>X-Statix
>Busiek Avengers
This wasn't some "90s bankruptcy so let's throw whatever we can out there." It was fucking 2003. This was at a time when Marvel was putting out some legitimately good shit.

And then there's this.

>They didn't even know how to change the expressions on the models they were using
Goddamn that's like the first thing you check when you decide to sign off on an idea like this. Not that these CGI comics have ever been good.

i think that's what gives it its charm, literally everybody looks like a villain in baki, and no one is entirely a good person, not even baki.
you're probably correct, baki's father is is often called the ogre, and his back muscles often show the shape of a demons face.

>NO ONE can do what he does
He has tons of imitators who all ape his style perfectly.

Its gets worse.

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>This wasn't some "90s bankruptcy so let's throw whatever we can out there."
No, it wasn't. It was "let's break away from the stale subpar standards of this barely alive industry and throw whatever we can out there." Are you really too dumb to understand that your favorite good comics and extremely shitty comics released within a certain timeframe come from the same editorial mindset?

jack can never catch a break.

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So's Liefeld's by that logic

Baki is really strange. The art is really ugly and at the same time the artist clearly has technical skills.

stonetoss?

>No, it wasn't
Correct - that's exactly what I said.
But go ahead and call me too dumb, despite not being able to read my post.

I wonder if he jacks it to hyperbara.It seems like something he'd do.

I withdraw my comment

You're an idiot. Standards were pretty high until the 90s after which Liefedfever dropped them. Bringing them back up led to a bunch of great shit. Go back to Yea Forums instead of pretending to know about Yea Forums

It's why people say when they tell you to practice realism before developing your style. It shows in your art even to laymen. Whereas nobody thinks Liefeld has technical skill, because he doesn't.

Cool, I didn't know the insurance general got his own comic.

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I would say the difference is that Liefeld's art is bad in a lazy way. Like his infamous fear of drawing feet.

>let's break away from the stale subpar standards of this barely alive industry and throw whatever we can out there
Except Batman Digital Justice had already done it 13 years earlier. They were bone-head retarded if they thought going digital like that was a good idea.

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You ARE too dumb. It's a wonder you can follow a conversation at all. Congratulations for figuring out how to reply, I guess.

I've never been to Yea Forums. Standards are formed after something that's agreed to be of good quality, not in a vacuum. To raise then-current standard they had to throw a bunch of shit at the wall, including Ultimates, Bendis on Daredevil, Alonso on X-line and yes, Poser-generated comics

And have better results, most of the time.

Holy shit, that fucking hand. I actually laughed out loud.

I'm pretty sure you can actually make a good-looking comic out of 3D models, it's just that people who use 3D software are usually shitty artists who don't understand perspective, proportions, lighting, color theory etc.

>throw a bunch of shit at the wall
Except with Ultimates and Bendis, "throwing shit at the wall" was giving two popular writers and pairing them with popular artists to write new stories about fan-favorite characters.
In what way is that a risk or trying something new?

>Check out some of his other work
>He's actually a decent artist
What the fuck happened here?

>unique
It's a half cooked imitation of Simonson and 80s Adams, you can probably find everything you "Love" him for in Thor and Longshot

>it works greats in doing what it have to
Which is?

I hope you didn't steal your opinion from that X-Force blogspot about the exclamation mark-shaped panel etc. A lot of impressionable anons love to bring that up for some reason.

>this is fine

You don't seem to be aware that Marvel were regarded as damn good until the 90s. You also don't seem to be aware of the reputation of the writers you named who were proven successes at the time, especially Alonso and Busiek. You can't define either standards or risks correctly, spaz.

>two popular writers
I'll give you Millar coming off Authority but Bendis was still a literally who in 2001.

how has moon over june not been posted yet

Bendis won an Eisner award in 1999

What are your thoughts on Morrison and Busiek? Were they unknowns in the early 2000s?

Alonso is an editor and he spent the entirety of 90s at Vertigo. It was his idea to bring Morrison and Milligan to X-titles and it was a HUGE risk my poorly informed friend

So are you saying that risks are bad and safety is good?
Besides from which, bringing over acclaimed writers with years of experience usually indicates quality. Arkham Asylum (earliest Morrison off the top of my head) was what, 1987?

Busiek's Avengers started before Jemas/Quesada so there's no reason to lump him with the rest. Morrison was known as the weird Doom Patrol/Invisibles guy at the time, DC literally refused his Teen Titans pitch few years earlier on the basis that he'd make it too weird.

So yeah giving him the industry biggest franchise classifies as a risk

Probably same thing that happened here. They tried to make the artist do a style he wasn't used to, comfortable with, or downright hated.

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Even before Authority, Millar had been writing all throughout the 90s, including runs on Flash with Morrison and JLA.
Bendis might not have been a huge name, but he was the hot new writer at the time.

>Morrison
>Milligan
>risks
wat

Regardless, you're equating the "risk" of hiring certain talent to the decision to publish a book with a literal who doing dogshit computer art. These two things are not like each other.

Artist here is Herb Trimpe. If you look at his other stuff, it's pretty solid. Not mindblowing, and a bit like he's aping Kirby's style too hard at times, but not like this.

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>So are you saying that risks are bad and safety is good?
What's the point of engaging in a conversation if you can barely remember the opponent's points older than two posts?

>your favorite good comics and extremely shitty comics released within a certain timeframe come from the same editorial mindset
I'm saying that taking risks is great but it will inevitably produce some shit as well as some gold, basic fucking logic

Thing is, the editor for Guardians of the Galaxy at the time wanted him to give them a copy of Liefeld's style, which was insanely popular at that point in history. He hated Liefeld's style, so he turned in shit like this to try to convince them to stop making him try that.

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>Dave Cockrum
> 17 pairs of hidden feet.
What is the fuck is the fucking fan fascination with fucking feet of all things?

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It's a weird thing to avoid drawing when it happens in 99% of everything an artist's drawn. Obscuring parts is fine but when the pattern's as clear as Liefeld, there has to be a reason.
Go to a different Cockrum page. Let's see if he's the same

I read 5 issues of X-Force just last night. I was entertained

Superhero fans do not understand what makes good art so they latch onto faces and body parts

I love cockrum, user, but 17 pairs.

It is the oposite, his style and sense of aesthetics is good enough to compensate for his clear lack of understanding over the fundamentals like perspective and anatomy

Is this good? As a non-capefag, I'm sure the answer for you is yes, since you're ignoring anatomy

Sounds about right. I feel obligated to get them out there when I draw as a result. Blarg.

You seem mad.

I'm not fanboying over Cockrum, I don't have anything he's drawn. Is this a cherrypick or this as common as it is with Liefeld? That's my question. A page with some decently placed scenery is fine, relatively speaking

>17

Not at all. I'm asking for your opinion on art. If you want to avoid contradicting yourself by answering the question, that's fine. It's an answer in itself.

He doesn't usually avoid them. This time it's pretty obviously just an arrangement thing.

Diffrent user. It’s shit. I like X-Force. Can you compute?

>Just do good comics, like in the 90s!

It’s all from one issue - an annual no less iirc. Marvel had the absolute shittiest art in 90’s annuals.

>As a non-capefag
But it was your ilk who put him on the pedestal 20 years ago. Don't try and shift the blame now! "I'm sure", what an enormous cunt

>different user
Then fuck off

Morrison fucking saved Justice League in the 90s, he wasn't "that weirdo" in any capacity

Wizard hyped the heck out of this from a production standpoint.

Gotten to.

Good lord, don't do meth kids.

Your argument was that capefags misunderstand good art, so put too much focus on anatomy. I'm asking you simply if by that logic, Liefeld's art is actually good because you aren't judging it by said anatomy. Come on user, what's it gonna be?

but this isn't drawn these are poor quality 3d models?

>Superhero fans do not understand what makes good art so they latch onto faces and body parts
Faces and body parts count as general anatomy to you?

I've never liked a single book drawn by John Romita Jr. or Richard Corben

>Your argument was that capefags misunderstand good art
No it wasn't. My argument was that capefags don't understand WHAT MAKES good art so they lump great stylized art with Liefeld and have an all-purpose answer for everything they don't like in "hurr durr it's bad on purpose".

Liefeld's art is shit just like the logic behind your question. I sincerely hope you're younger than 20.

>Faces
Meh
>Are body parts a factor in anatomy
Well, yes.
Let's play it your way, tho? Factoring out the "face and the body parts", even though it's a character drawing, *is the Liefeld drawing from above good*?

have you read JRJR's better books like Spider-Man or Last Crusade? He can be great when he wants to be, he just doesn't want to be most of the time.

The crucial part here is that not understanding what makes good art results in not understanding what makes bad art.

Stylization is 100% Yea Forums's number one enemy

Damn, you two blend together two well. It's unavoidable mixing you up

Stylization has to serve a purpose. Shaky Kane for instance isn't really a master artist but when he draws things like David Hine's comics the style helps the story a ton and makes it better.

>Stylization has to serve a purpose
So by your logic, Shaky Kane should change up his style to suit different writers?

This looks like one of those super cheap CGI dating sims

Does it count as ugly if it's intentionally supposed to be ugly aesthetic wise but the actual art is solid?

You're retarded.

Here’s your art, son

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no, he's your average /ic/ wiener

>Stylization has to serve a purpose
You now every capable artist sooner or later develops a style, right? You can't be THAT daft mate.

Yes, because ugly and beautiful aren't objective things. Baki is ugly to a lot of people, but there is clearly an understanding of the craft behind it, so it isn't bad craftsmanship. Another weeb example would be One Punch Man (webcomic version).

Ugly isn't necessarily a bad thing; poor craftsmanship is.

This looks spectacular
I can't understand why people are shitting on it

And you obviously don't draw

>wonky
>weird tail on guy's foot
>people don't look like that
>u can't fit a fist inside a cheek
Probably something along those lines

Why are people who exclusively read manga such turboplebs when it comes to art?

What is really impressive about Baki's art is how much better it got, the first manga's art was pure shit. People compare it to Liefield, but it is unfair, Liefield never refined his shitty style untill it became something interesting, he started like shit and it still shit.

I personally wouldn't compare these two styles.
Baki might be ugly, but it's deliberately ugly. The artist for Baki is passionate about what he does, he cultivated his skill to put forth a piece of art with an aesthetic that he feels matches the tone of the story.

What ever pic related is only represents corporate practices at their worst. It represents an attempt to streamline the artistic process to maximize profitability. They just churn out shit like this because they just want something to sell that they don't have to invest anything in.

You were saying something?

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While Baki's art is indeed bad, none of the reasons you listed is the reason why

Are you saying the majority of comic readers aren't?

>What ever pic related is only represents corporate practices at their worst. It represents an attempt to streamline the artistic process to maximize profitability. They just churn out shit like this because they just want something to sell that they don't have to invest anything in.
You have no idea what you're talking about

Why not?

mfw

you have brain damage from reading capeshit

you are also fucking blind if you think liefeld compares to that image, the style is ugly but it's a very competent drawing, Liefeld is just DA tier amateur shit who doesn't know what he's doing, it blows my mind that retarded capefags actualy defend this travesty of an artist or even Greg fucking Land.

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Not to mention he had already done Arkham Asylum, which was a massive seller, as well as Animal Man.

I'm watching Kaiji now and I already finished Akagi. They're both fun watches but holy FUCK I don't like the way the artist draws faces.

This.

I would put Arkham Asylum and Animal Man pretty firmly in the weird category. JLA was his first foray that I'm aware of into straightforward capes.

holy shit when did Data get so fucking ripped

>I've never liked a single book drawn by Richard Corben
Imagine being this much of a pleb

Sure, but my point is that he wasn't "that Doom Patrol weirdo", and it was hardly a risk to put him on the X-Men.
It would be like saying putting Gaiman on the X-Men was a risky move 'cause he was that Sandman weirdo.

Mirror universe. Everyone had sleeveless uniforms with bulging biceps.

As fugly as Baki looks the fact that its in B+W makes the details pop more which is important when most of the comic is 2 people close up beating the ever loving shit out of each other.

>fan favorite character is left in an ambiguous state (is he dead or alive?)
>next chapter (and the ones after it) doesn't acknowledge the character's status and focuses on hair stylin'.

the mad man

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Being this wrong and wasting good dubs

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No one posted that certain America Chavez page yet?

>The guy that has to tell everyone why something is bad.
The Middle Class insecurity is tangible.

>fan favorite characte
that's not doyle

doyle's the only convict to actually die right? yanagi somehow survived.

>nobody has posted moon over june
Guess that means I win haha.

What's my prize?

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The thing about Baki's artstyle is that it perfectly fits what it is about. It has no plot aside from people punching each other, setting up interesting scenarios in which people can punch each other and showing how good someone will be at punching someone to build hype for the actual punching further down the road.

So what's important for Baki is movement, posing and solidity, kind of like Greek sculptures of athletes. Those are literally as immobile as rocks yet you can still feel the movement looking at them because their posing and the attention to anatomical detail makes it easy for your brain to fill in the rest of the movement.

The trouble Baki then faces is that it is a 2D medium, so achieving these is harder, and solidity, which is easy for a massive marble statue to pull off, is even more of a problem for a small image on paper, especially when it already has to make things more fluid-like with speedlines and such to make the movement work.

Baki solves this by using a style similar to Ukiyo-e, which has a heavy empbasis on evocative posing, with exaggerated but still highly accurate body drawing. This effectively lets Itagaki cheat the problem of achieving all three factors by having two of them be so highly accentuated from the style choice that making things more fluid to add the movement doesn't disrupt the other two.

The downside of this is that his art is not traditionally aesthetically appealing in the slightest. On top of Ukiyo-e already looking weird and distorted the exaggerations of anatomy only make things worse. But again, Itagaki doesn't really give a shit, because he seeks to portray strength, power and brutality, not beauty.

The art is drawn with a light worm's eye view; i.e. you're looking up from the ground, which would make showing the feet awkward because they're right at the horizon line. But Kurt's left foot is a bit dubious.

>What's my prize?
You had to google and save that pic my man, there are no winners here

It was so bad that once the higher ups found out they pulled the plug 3 or 4 issues early and told the creator he had ONE issue to wrap everything up.

is this a chester chettah netflix adaptation?

You guys haven’t posted this yet?

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>Except Batman Digital Justice had already done it 13 years earlier. They were bone-head retarded if they thought going digital like that was a good idea.

That was literally the first comic to be done entirely in CG. It was made using a Mac 2, with 16mhz cpu, 1 MB of ram and 40mb storage. To put that in context, It's slightly better than a TI graphing calculator.

It's bad art but at least acknowledge the insane limitations that the artist worked with.

award winning art

>It is the oposite, his style and sense of aesthetics is good enough to compensate for his clear lack of understanding over the fundamentals like perspective and anatomy
That's not a thing, even stylized cartoonist will have a concept of proportions perspective. Style does not replace fundamentals.

All five of them are alive. Itagaki has issues. In five of the volume releases of the rerelease of the second manga he put five 8-page aside chapters, each of which depicting one of the five doing some form of training in their imprisonment. Speck is doing a muscle tension thing in his permanent coma, Doyle deafened himself (in addition to his blindness) so that he would get DD's radar sense, Sikorsky spends 12 hours a day lizarding to a wall, etc.

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that's like people giving this so much crap without acknowledging the limitations of the time.

youtube.com/watch?v=-gcyZc3bhyM

>only retsu stays dead in this series

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>that's like people giving this so much crap without acknowledging the limitations of the time.
I never seen that before. People gave that crap? Phong illumination model was made in 1975. That means 8 years after the math lighting 3d objects was invented, these guys put it into production. That's impressive in my book.

Amanai is also dead. But, Retsu's had five years to be dead. It took the convicts more than a decade to come back. Maybe wait, maybe see. I'm sure that you read what Kaku >implied about bringing him back, though.

>As in Baki-tier bad

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I appreciate that Yea Forums likes Baki.

I appreciate how shitty the art is.

how would adamantium affect imaginary bones?

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Can someone give me a quick rundown on Baki, please.

dad wants boy to grow strong enough to give him a challenge.

Damn, those guys sound hardcore.

Jack should be the MC.

jack definitely wanted it more and for better reasons than baki.

what's the opposite of 'gains'? i keep pondering about it whenever i try to describe pre-steroids jack's training regimen (keep training to the point that his body wastes away).

Is a generic fight manga possibly based on video games, when young the protagonist father only cared about fighting,he trained his whole life, won the martial arts tournament and then challenged every master in the world,after decades he eventually defeated them all and got declared best fighter in the world

Then he got bored because his only passion in life was fight and there was no more challenge, so he try to convince his nearly pacifist son to train and defeat him but his boy thinks that fighting is stupid and pointless and see no point in being proud of the phisically stronger than others.

>Is a generic fight manga possibly based on video games
hahaha ok

I like frank miller, but I get why other people don’t.

“Whuh... what was that”

That statue is so cool.

there wasn't a guy that used to work with marvel for like a decade and was really angry when he went to work with dc because dc editors would make him correct his art like 10 times more than marvel?

>Speck is doing a muscle tension thing in his permanent coma
Jesus fucking Christ what the fuck is Baki even.

I had buried its existence in the darkest recesses of my mind.

>muscle tension
What's that?

This is the second time I see art from Baki and you're spot on. The artist clearly wants the comic to look raw and brutal.

Baki is atrocious, man.

>tfw I think my faces are bad
>see this shit
I'm actually pretty decent.

Why is The General so comfy bros

>Baki might be ugly, but it's deliberately ugly.
It being shit on purpose doesn't make it any less shit.

>character is ugly
>BAD ART!!!
absolute state of Yea Forums. I just grabbed an image from the Yea Forums thread, nothing special about it. I dare you to find me a better western artist currently working. Not a cover, just a standard page of panels.

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I'm an artist and I think that art is cool as fuck. It looks grotesque.

based sukune

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Not him but Rocafort, Adams or Quitely.

You can probably find better shit on Deviantart, you're practically defending fetish porn and pretending it's high art.

>I dare you to find me a better western artist currently working.
Literally every other western artist, stop posting this bottom of the barrel trash.

That's an amazing swastika

There's nothing wrong with Baki's art, the author has a perfect understanding of anatomy (early Baki looked completely normal) but simply exaggerates proportions to the point where it often looks silly. It's just his style. It doesn't make it bad.

his old style is just boring by comparison.

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>J.K.-Night of the Living Deadline-Woodward

>art by Wagner Reis
for only the first issue

Jefte Palo is so fucking shit. Look at his faces.

this is great actually
could be an album cover

god this fucking arc was such astronomical bullshit
and i loved it

>There are people who think Baki has bad artstyle because its ugly

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>ABD-MART
>M'BAD-ART
Well there you go, the artist admits he's shit.

That's the point.

would've been true but you had to add an apostrophe to make it work

>Stylization is 100% Yea Forums's number one enemy

No it's mainstream comics enemy. Every since Bryan Hitch came on the scene with Authority/Ultimates fans have gone back to an over emphasis on realistic art, there was a wave of it in the 70's because of Neal Adams so you would hear about people turning on Kirby while he was doing the best art of his career.

Hello, do you know what the word "aesthetic" even means? The reason you don't like it is the same reason that other people do, you have different tastes you philistine.You have no argument beyond "I don't like X" to which one only needs to say "I DO like X" to refute you.

It's pretty common to hear people spout the same nonsense about Tradd Moore.
The problem with the internet is it gives everyone the potential for a platform, whether they deserve it or not.

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I had zero idea what I was getting into when i started the netflix anime. When Hanayama had a handful of bullets explode in his mouth and he no sold it I realized what kind of madness it was about

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What makes you say that?

See

This is fucking amazing. Every character looks like demonic beings from ancient chinese illustrations.
Haven't read the manga and I've only seen one episode of the anime but I'm certain it totally fits in this case.

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I CANNOT believe this hasn't been posted yet.

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Personally, I can't bring myself to enjoy it no matter how much I see it. I LOVE the exaggerated poses they take, but the exaggerated musculature and faces are just too off putting for me.

That being said, I can understand why people get a kick out of it. It has a unique style, and it seems to be perfectly crafted for the story it's telling.

>Jason Badower

Finally, someone who gets it.

Honestly with the level of violence in the average fight I don't think you could draw the characters too human looking or it would go from fun to off putting

What are with all these fucking plebs ITT
Baki isnt bad, the characters are made to look like they arent even human. At least the ones whi fught are.

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All this talk of Baki is making me excited, can someone link to somewhere to read in its entirety?

*who fight
Whoops

Hhhhhnnnnnggggg, that's beautiful!

It is lierally IMPOSSIBLE to dislike Watterson's style. He was able to craft those beautiful Sunday stripes every single week too.

hahahaha this makes the retardation I read in literally every other shounen in existence seem tame, I fucking love it and I want to read it now.

Not my thing personally, but it clearly demonstrates artistic skill. There were DEFINITELY examples of atrocious art in that issue, but I think they were more to do with the artist having to rush to meet the schedule.

Stop falling for the bait, plebs. Either have an interesting topic about "extremely weird but fascinating" styles or have a genuine dogpile about styles that are really, really bad. Don't bother defending something that is simultaneously immune to defense and to criticism.

user, this character is literally not a human, the whole arc was about it. He's from an ancient species that went extinct over a million years ago

For sure. If this looked more realistic, my stomach would probably churn at the sick shit they do to each other.

That's where Baki shines. You start out interested in the hook, get disappointed that the pacing is all over the place and it's getting retarded, but eventually it passes over into fun retardation that keeps you hooked for what bullshit will happen next.

You can defend any kind of trash with that retard logic, that doesn't excuse how utterly fucked anatomy would make Liefeld blush.

read

What the fuck am I looking at here? Segmented bendy bones? Armored Bones? Extending bones?

The other guy above understood it better; Itagaki's art is based in ukiyoe. It isn't as if he tries to conceal it.

>All these maximum plebs who cant even differ between shit skill and art style

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The art isn't bad in context but this is Archie TMNT, So one issue would have Ken Mitchroney pencils, then the next issue would have THIS

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I bet you retarded tasteless niggers think Kaiji look bad too

I HATE IT

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Every time I see this shit art, I can't imagine her talking like anyone else but Sandy when she pretended to be dumb

youtube.com/watch?v=-BAJXt2ysUc

>There are actual subhuman on here who shit on Baki's art but defend shit like Gweenpool's

No wonder this place is a fucking cesspool

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Gwenpool had good art, though

I hope this is ironic, Watterson is a 10/10 artist

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Sorry im not that far into the manga yet and that was the only pic i had.

>This was at a time when Marvel was putting out some legitimately good shit.
Quesada's actual philosophy was experimenting > quality. We has willing to try anything to innovate at least once. Some things worked, some didn't. This was also the time when marvel tried the largest amount of elseworlds stories and realized they didn't really stick, probably robbing us of the only chance of not being forced to reboot heroes every 10 years

>the characters are made to look like they arent even human.
Neither is the Hulk. Or the Juggernaut. Or any of the roided freaks at Marvel/DC/Image/whatever. That is no excuse for the art to be so awful when it's already been done better countless times without wanting to gouge your own eyes out.

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these are the kind of people that complain is their capeshit is not made in their shitty realistic style

He obviously posted it because it was a strip mocking that style and not because he thinks the art sucks.

This art looks like it was influenced by both ancient japanese and chinese art, dudes face at the bottom looks like a face a chinese dragon but its just a guess.

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didn't realize that people already pointed it out

My b

>dudes face at the bottom looks like a face a chinese dragon
his facial features were based on Matt Dillon

the bottom panel is proof enough to why they thought it would have been a good idea, but god look at the rest

baki is for people who prefered the first 2 parts of JJBA

Always had a boner for her

Guruhiru has same face with usually repetitive emotions and nothing else is interesting in the panel besides the characters.

Part 1 had its issues but it's still leagues better than the bile that is Baki's "style"

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I like how Watterson is mocking those stupid ultraviolent garish comics from the 90s, and yet he's too talented to make it ugly enough.

Kaiji is fine because it is explicitly cartoonish. Baki goes for realism and fails spectacularly.

Were these people paid real money for this?

Basically the first one. Each segment was it's own bone iirc

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i mostly meant by how fights work
Baki doesn't exactly have magic breathing, but is all about exaggerated muscles and fights that go past the logical extreme

but those looks like shit
lol hulk looks fucking retarded, he's a big green man, are you some kind of toddler

the people in baki look scary at least
completely unbiased since I don't read either manga or capeshit

The doctor in the manga believes that the character is training subconsciously in his coma and that his body is making the training real by repeatedly tensioning his muscles extremely hard as if he actually was swimming. The doctor also said that his muscles were putting out a force equivalent to if he were training by swimming in molasses instead of water.

>Busiek Avengers
o kurwa stary

>Baki goes for realism

I have no idea what made you make that assumption.

Sounds based and redpilled to me.

>Baki
>Ugly
Despite its grotesque angle, Baki has better anatomy than a lot of comics in general. It's not based on a misunderstanding of anatomy, it's based on the purposeful distortion of it.

>Baki
>Ugly
is absolutely right, Baki's art might not be appealing, but it's fucking AMAZING and it seriously shits on most capeshit house style artists
I'd rather have more of this than more of Brett Booth

I'm surprise this didn't show up

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don't you mean I'm sad

>Is a generic fight manga possibly based on video games
This manga is as old as I am. It would be more accurate to think this manga influenced video games.

>posts some conceptart looking brown muh naturalism thing

come back when you grow up kid

Still better than Squirrel Girl. Not by much, but better.

Wouldn’t this make his arms and legs more easy to break? I mean joints are weaker parts of human skeleton after all.

It was something like this

>You know how if you rotate your body then you can punch harder
>So the more you rotate the harder you punch
>So if you hab moar joint than u can punch harderest
>Except that you dont have moar joint
>So pretend that you do
>Just imagine it bro
>Mind over matter
>Now even though you do not have moar joint you can still punch harderest
>Character ended up punching so hard he destroyed his own fucking hand

>tfw I actually got introduced to webcomics with this garbaggio and I loved it

And this is supposed to be like an inspiring image.

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Everything I've heard about Baki is like the manga-ka absolutely kept his pure childish imagination to go over the top in the most hilarious ways.

And this is supposed to be our main character

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Any kid who likes gross stuff would go apeshit over this. I know I do. Gotta love the arteries spritzing blood uselessly.

It was about circumventing the body's self-protection systems. Think about how you can't easily put your finger in your eye without it closing. Now apply that theory to your muscles moving at supersonic speeds. It won't happen unless you can find a way to force it to happen.

Well that's just Richie Rich, coming fom a guy defending art that came straight outta /d/.

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Meant to reply to

Nigger they used CGI art because they were bankrupt or near it. This was when they had to pawn off the movie rights to stay afloat.

It was supposed to imitate a snake or a whip, they have a lot of joints in thier body so thier “attack speed” is super fast, this character wanted to create a “Mach speed punch”

What is wrong with it being grotesque? It's very obviously supposed to be a monstrous figure.

Bad art is art that doesn't deliver its intended purpose, as in drawing the reader into the atmosphere/setting/emotions artist/writer is trying to convey.

Baki's art is for superhuman fighters punching the shit out of each others. Liefeld works if you're into the 90's edge or remember it fondly. 3D art routinely fails to deliever due to the stiffness of the models and neutral lightning. Land art fails because it's stiff, often unfitting traces, not to mention the expressions keep reminding you of the porn he traced it from, taking you even further out of the comic. Zdarsky Squirrel Girl works as a kids comic, but not for masturbating to it.

>Zdarsky

I'm mentally and physically incapable of not fucking up a post of mine, it seems.

>Baki goes for realism and fails

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Why are westernfags so obsessed over realism shit?

It's literally a pleb from Yea Forums coming here and making a thread citing Baki as bad art. You're from Yea Forums also cause you'd know that only capeshitters are obsessed with realism as they don't know better. Lurk more.

Part one is truly Japanese Liefeld.

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He's the boss of this mansion.

The artstyle change really fits with how fucking boring the series became.

who the fuck ships fruit like that? what kind of business sense am I seeing here? I thought this was america not a 3 ton basket of pears balanced on the head of an indian merchant o a sputtering motorcycle in the streets of Culcutta

dem hips on that yellowjacket lady

>only Part one

is that a gmod screenshot

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Which Jojo is this?

Even capefags aren't. A lot of the most highly regarded cape artists from older eras didn't have realism as the main goal. Kirbyfag here, and I think there's a middle ground where stylism is great but Liefeld style art goes to dumb extremes without knowing how to use it, unlike Kirby.

Am i the only one that likes this late Frank Miller style?

Doc Oc really let himself go.

People forget that within the context of the manga Baki's muscle structure is considered malformed and disgusting for someone his age as a result of his fathers fucked up training. These characters were never meant to be conventionally attractive.

>araki can no longer do muscle heroes

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God that's a good looking gun

Fucking christ, the longer I look the worse it gets.

All of the main martial artist characters, really. They simply can't pass themselves off as being merely human anymore.

His dad never trained him but that’s beside the point. Baki’s muscles are weird because of genetics. The Hanma line all have devils on their backs.

>mfw I genuinely like the styles of both Keisuke Itagaki and Frank Miller

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No it's the ultimate pleb filter. The guys a fucking legend.

The dudes trash you are literally the only personho ever even brings him up. And you always post the same terrible page of dudes fighting and launching of walls like anime with no consideration of page flow and movement

He can draw decently, his composition is absolute fucking trash and I'm so sick of seeing one user in every fuckin art thread bring him up as if he's some indisputable stud. The dudes mediocre at best

Oh boy, reminds me of these giantess fetish pictures

Hey, fuck you, baki is amazing. It's so exaggerated it's literally awe inspiring.

Absolutely correct.

Hanayama is a character worth having a book all unto himself.

Especially the shit that hanayama does or the criminal arc.

i wonder what the people who hate baki's artstyle think about james harren or ramon villalobos

or more importantly richard corben, who i forgot because i'm retarded

My favorite

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Legends die and he needs to.

How could you guys possibly forget this one? Also, did Natasha Allegri suffer a stroke when she drew this comic?

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He can re-learn it if he has to.

>jaw is completely destroyed, teeth are gone again
>gets new jaw and full teeth implants
>next fight, he loses all his teeth AGAIN

For a guy that can bite through a coconut, he gets a raw deal.

This was crap, but wasn't it last minute replacement crap?

He had his own series.

This was fucking infuriating. The only way to be redeemed is if they reveal the following:
>Biscuit's body was going to eventually fail like that somehow because his muscles put too much force on his ribcage already. His bones could only support so much weight/force.
>He gets a new titanium ribcage
>His strength now doubles because his unbreakable ribcage can support it

>Baki goes for realism

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I like Battle Royale art but expect that villain.. It's the most ugly mofo I've ever seen in my life

kill it with fire.

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Baki is awesome

dem tits

Where can I read more about Jack? I was reading through the series from the start and couldn't find scans for the Maximum Tournament arc, which is his main bit, right?

Man, i truly wanted to get into Baki, but the art is just not my coup of tea. Wish Daromeon was the artist instead

boards.fireden.net/a/search/subject/Grappler Baki translations/

we're getting there, just slowly

Is that Tim Curry?

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Imagine the logs this guy shits out ha ha

Wait. When did the red head get a daughter and how?

SWOLE as fuck

So when is someone gonna get vored or inflated?

Ugly?

You have no education, correct?

Nope. It suits the setting and the purpose.

I've just acquired it thanks to this thread. It's like looking into the mind of a mad demigod.

>worse

When?

You're retarded.

Baki is an anomaly. It's extremely detailed, and the artist is fantastic at conveying motion, but his anatomy is absolutely freakish.

there's a wiki about feet and fictional characters so there's some crazy things going on.

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enjoy """"photo realism""""""" crap or calarts trash

not even that op and i know you're a donkey. that dude is incredible.

Looks like a bara hentai
t. faggot

Come back in 10 years when you're old enough to post here.

Nah, bara is more about swollen, watermelony muscles. Fetishizing being big, not being cut.

That was the page that made me decide not to buy the book.

Stop thinking with your ass user.

It's nothing like Liefeld you idiot.

No, Miller style sucks. The guy who does Baki is actually goog tho.

The artist was trying to hard to ape animu style.

haha i had this book when i was a kid wtf

Finally! Someone else that thinks Alex Ross is overrated!

>He thinks Alex Ross is photo realism

Jack Kirby

wizard used to hype his art as such. Even doing articles on how he does it.

You're really fucking dumb, no one without at least some self-taught formal training will have that kind of control ove distorting things.
This is one thing faggots don't realize. Drawing in proportion is far easier than fucking proportions up because the human body is already harmonious as it is, lending itself to good composition.
Stretching and bending things (well) is difficult as fuck because you can't just go "lmaoooooooooo his arm is long in this panel because FUCK" because everything will become very unbalanced and dispersed.
Hell, even visual artists, working completely outside of any "narrative" situation will benefit from having a consistent "method of distortion" through all of his work instead of just drawing whatever. I know this goes against a lot of people's narratives about both contemporary comics and art but it's true.

>Baki art
>bad

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I had just downloaded his Uncanny X-Men stuff and just from a quick browsing at vol. 2, while he will draw feet if the situation asks for, I'm detecting a lot of shit like strategically placed furniture, travel bags, mists and other shit.
But hey, whenever he draws feet they look like fucking feet in whatever different footwear they're weaing, not Liefeld's kinda rounded square so maybe he just doesn't like drawing them (which I completely understand and I assume most people do as well)

>What's the ugliest artstyle you've ever seen in a comic?
La presidente

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I don't know nor care what Wizard says, just look at his art. It's highly stilized and hardly photo realistic. I mean, you can even clearly see the brush strokes a lot of the time.

Isn't Jack Hanma supposed to be the only character using steroids?

Well great, now I'm actually interested in Baki.

>Yujiro Hanma
>strongest creature on Earth
>known as the ogre because of his force and cruelty
>kill his wife in front of his son
>kill many of his friends and bring him their head
>almost kill his son many times
>doesn't care at all about fair play, often finish fighters who just got defeated by another opponent
>kill a whole boxe club anytime he want
>go to the battlefield just for the pleasure to kill some soldiers
>Meet Mohammed Ali
>"Woah, dude, you are M. Ali? Woah so cool bro, yeah check me five! I love what you did and your fight for Blacks position in America and to defend war victims in wars and shit! Haha you're so cool bro, I'm a big fan of you, haha!"
>Yujori Hanma
>also, just killed for no reasons the 5 guys who were just training with M.Ali.

Goddamn, I love Oliva

Please don't let him die/be a cripple. I still think he could have used the "pacman" trick as a kind of bear trap against the sumo

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That's just a bunch of traced photos lol. I have this "comic" it's very shitty

>yeah but it shit one Lepen.
>Immediate commercial success

Is the anime of Baki any good? This thread got me interested, but I don't really want to read anything right now.

original yeah.
The netflix one? Not so much.

yes, but not only steroids, SUPER STEROIDS

it's even funnier because that means others characters are natty.

Damn. If the original's not on Netflix I guess it's the manga for me. Any good sites for that? The ones I try always get these weird scans with funky fan translations.

I remember one of the issue of Deadpool Corps being exactly like that, not only it was just badly textured 3D model but the story of this issue was complete shit as Deadpool and his alternate dimension pal (including a dog deadpool and his zombie version) had to fight against space gummy bear

>death convicts are somehow all alive
>Retsu still death

This was a lie though.

>baki
>bad
I'm not even angry, just disappointed in you

TETSUOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

what's so bad there?

that's based as fuck

Pretty good aping of Rumiko Takahashi after a stroke

my first thought looking at this clusterfuck of a page

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Fucked up proportions.

Unless the setting is Gumby, those characters are flat and out of proportion.

>guest artis marketed months in advance
>last minute replacement
pick one and only one.

considering the whole book art choice... no this is not an issue. At this rate you are going ot post Asterix or Mickey mouse there too.

If I remember the Asian girl gets pregnant by scissoring another girl after that one got jizz inside.
The red head though, I think she got permission to get inseminate.

Berserk

Stop defending Miller in his worst era, faggot. Go be a cocksucker somewhere else.

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most images on this thread are far from "bad"
i mean, its "soul". art that has soul isnt "bad"

any of them is far better than modern capeshit trash. which is soulless and lifeless and fake as fuck

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Proportions are the least of his issues. Anatomy, perspective and just downring shoddy linework are. And it's not just stylization because it's inconsistent throughout the whole thing. If you check out stuff like Ronin, you can see a "looser" Miller who's still obviously in control and knows what he wants. Here he just doesn't give a fuck anymore.

Has the soul vs soulless meme finally reached its nadir? Probably not. But that’s still a pretty bad post.

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:o
What? Really?

to put it another way, photorealism sucks. modern capeshit comics are just cookie-cutter trash like shitty dudebro shooters. everything looks the same. no creativity and individuality.

The comics itself is drawn... acceptably, but this particular fucking panel I shall never forget.

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this looks like he traced a guy waking up really confused with a hangover for the 3rd time that week

It has several pencillers so I don't know exactly who's to blame for that particular Spider-Man. Maybe some people ITT know more about these artists and can pinpoint the hack.

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>photorealistic
>capeshit
Either learn what that word means or go back to writing creepypasta.

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Man, this looks like someone filled a spiderman suit with a bunch of ground beef and started swinging it with a rope.

It would have been useless. Sukune is bigger and from what we have seen, stronger.

>considering the whole book art choice
To be clear, I am not saying that page is ass. I'm saying the whole book is ass. That page is just an example of that ass.

Something can be consistently ass, the criticism wasn't inconsistent art.

I cannot fucking believe this was printed by a professional company that expected people to pay for it

>Raph's face
If only you knew how bad things really are

Post your art then.

I think you should lay off the doughnuts Pete.

The Netflix one gets better, they drop the CGI after a while and they get more consistent with animation and facial detail in general. It doesn't have high production values but then again Baki's art is so particular that an anime could never have been a replacement for the manga. It's enjoyable for what it is once you get past the handful of horrid CGI scenes.

How hard is it to get someone to draw a background?

Kirkman doesn't even remotely need to try at this point, and neither do his artists

and that's a good thing.

Heh. Get filtered, son.

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>retsu dies
man why did my favorite character have to go lads

>that op
Kill yourself

Also yes you are.

>Baki
>bad

Plebbiest taste go back to plebbit

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>t with animation and facial detail in general.

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>yanagi somehow survived
You're shitting me, After the Ogre destroyed his fucking head?

I know, I know, the budget shows, but but at least it doesn't completely butcher character's faces during key panels taken straight from the manga. Dorian looked like a different character every other shot at the start of his fight with Kato, for example.

But yeah, it's still pretty bad. But as a companion to the manga, to see the scenes with voice acting and color, it's servicable.

>the lastest copy of Baki you have, taverner!

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It's more like Children vs Wizards

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>the artstyle is not ascetically pleasing but it okay cause it's on purpose

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Of what, shit?

fuck you!

Reminder that if this was the art for an official Marvel book, Yea Forums would seethe and claim SJWs are once again ruining their precious medium.

>whaaaaa my meme hate isn't working, why aren't people blind and obedient like meeeeeeee
fuck off, retard.

No need to go that low, gurihiru will always have an special place in my hearth. And despite it, the original gwenpool run had a realgood story.
Could be a lot worse

It's a hopeless cause, user. This board's full of people who criticise all kinds of things about capeshit without knowing or reading enough to know what they're talking about. My plan is read whatever genre and don't engage with those types

There's a word for it; grotesque

And Mega Babies is supposed to be gross and horrible, that doesn't suddenly make it better.

You should follow your own advice.

this looks like one of those 3D fetish porn galleries on deviantart or rule34

Meg Babies splits the difference between cute and disgusting. The actual character designs for a lot of the characters are cute ugly, but there's a lot of grossout visuals and humor. There's a disconnect somewhere, and it didn't work as well as the juxtaposition of cute and gross that was in Ren & Stimpy. Baki on the other hand looks grossly detailed and is about about grossly detailed violence being done to people. It found an audience, and I don't think that's in spite of its art style.

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My eyes

Baki is fucking vomit inducing

It’s on Netflix now and holy duck what’s is up with this series?

I think I may or may not have a scat fetish because of the pink one

maybe
it also could have come from Home Alone 3 where the plant pot falls on the lady and makes a fart noise

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Get fucked, user.

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"Vortex" by William Cardini

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For what? Forma saying Miller was shit? It's fuckinf true. He was great and then he was shit. Now he is decent, great sometimes.

Is this porn?

>Tfw I like Baki artstyle but I hate modern Miller

maybe they just prefer old miller?

I fucking hate this comic and I can't wait to show people it again at the storytime of pain.

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I unironically would like a comic with that artstyle

He used the back of his blade

This looks dope though

WHEN THE FUCK IS THE REST OF IT GONNA GET TRANSLATED