Do people make webseries' anymore? I'm not talking about youtube animators telling stories of their lives, I mean like an actual series?
Do people make webseries' anymore? I'm not talking about youtube animators telling stories of their lives...
Cameron Nelson
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Gabriel Sanchez
Remember when Matt Wilson was super-opinionated about cartoons and stuff?
Cooper Ramirez
'If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device' counts as a webseries.
Kevin Hall
I remember when he left the internet because he got doxed and fans started showing up at his house without warning.
Parker Stewart
There are a couiple, but they are alot harder to find nowadays. For example, I had JUST found this one yesterday, despite looking for new animated web series for a while now.
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Noah Adams
Not really, no. They kind of died out when Mondo Media and similar channels did, which was around the time Youtube decided to dick over animators in general.
Nolan Jenkins
I'm trying to get mine out there, but trying to make a 15+ minute pilot episode inbewtween actual animation work for other youtube channel is pretty rough.
Almost done though! only 4 minutes to go!
Connor Brooks
I miss witnessing the failure.
Aaron White
Video game movie store is a pretty good one.
Ayden Bell
>The Dewd
laughing my ass on
Grayson Butler
To be fair he tried to fucking monetize his previously free webtoon by charging people a dollar per new episode at the end there because he was salty the fan who asked him to give Bonus Stage a proper ending couldn't pay up.
Kayden King
Independent animated webseries are nearly all dead
The one's like Mondo Media and Frederator are all on streaming services like VRV and amazon prime in order to not die
Luke Robinson
kirbopher did tome 3 years back and there's that dude on newgrounds making the one about the grim reaper lady
Nathan Jones
Nothing fair about that.
Jack Torres
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>those views
pathetic
Daniel Clark
What happened to Matt? I used to talk to him all the time but lost touch long ago.
Kevin Brooks
I stopped caring about Matt Wilson after he got the BSwiki shut down.
what a wanker.
Also he's hardly improved as an animator despite all this time.
Justin Edwards
Confinement is top notch
James Martinez
When is Christopher Niosi going to release a new web series, I need to inject more TOME into my veins.
Daniel Walker
Wait, he got the wiki shut down? I thought they just didn’t have the funding to keep it up. Elaborate
Aiden Flores
As much as i am disgusted in your shit taste i am actually invested in TOME with a same amount of delight as i am with The Room and have been following the progress of Chris's endevors.
He's gonna be working on something new after he's done with the TOME RPG game (probably a series or movie based on that one college short he did)
Jordan Baker
You have no idea how much of an influence this show had on me. I wish I bought the shirt while I still could, but Matt doesn't have the art anymore. He made a new Bonus Stage shirt for his store, but the design isn't nearly as good. Ah, well, I was ten when I would've bought it, so I surely would've outgrown it by now.
But on your main topic, the closest thing I can think of, outside of the stuff produced by literal studios like Rooster Teeth, is Murdoch Murdoch, and that's, y'know, a Neo-Nazi propaganda show. When online animation was at its height, in the golden age of Newgrounds, I thought things would just get better with time. Instead, they've deteriorated, and I don't know why. We went from edgy video game parodies with occasional original content, to only edgy video game parodies, and then all the people who did parodies quit and started doing Let's Plays and movie reviews. UkinoJoe is still hanging on, but I don't know for how much longer.
If anyone knows what happened, please explain.
Wyatt Morris
I never found out what actually happened with Bonus Stage. As a kid, I assumed that he just got bored of doing the show and didn't have the motivation to finish the last season, even though he already had a storyline for it. Then at the end of 2013 (shit, that was five years ago now, I feel old) he published a blog post where he acknowledged Bonus Stage was super vague about "drama" regarding the show.
>10 years ago it was my first real start in animation, learning everything on the fly, from voice acting to writing to editing to drawing digitally to learning the dos and don'ts of how to conduct yourself online (mostly the don'ts). I don’t have positive memories from it, I burned a couple of bridges for no good reason, and it’s better left in the ground, but I’d be in some other career without it. I debated what I would do for the 10th anniversary, possibly something special, but even reminding people of my association with it feels like a bad idea that would reopen wounds, and I get filled with anxiety.
>I’m so much more excited about what I do now and I want to get people excited about the projects that I’m excited to do. I’m not nostalgic and I’m not turning around. This will be the last day I post about this.
Not sure what the burned bridges are, or the "donts." Given his behavior online recently, I'm not sure what he actually learned.
Wasn't that only with Episode 89 (originally released as 88 before the retconned version of Episode 1 became the new Episode 88)?
Huh? Why and how did he shut it down?
Dominic Parker
He does Deadly Space Action and Puzzle Hunters, neither of which get much in the way of views. He's also gone off the deep end into far-left politics. When some marketing person at some game company made a "did you just assume my gender" joke, he published their name on a video game forum (the Neogaf spin-off, I forget what it's called) so people could brigade the company about firing them. But to his credit, Matt regretted this and admitted on Twitter that he went too far, and something something about controlling his anger. I honestly stopped following him on Twitter because of the politics, but even though I probably disagree with him on literally everything, he probably genuinely means well.
Christopher Peterson
>five
six years. It's terrible that something that brought others so much joy could be so terrible for its creator. Makes you wonder what went on behind the scenes, if it's more than just a "oh, that awful thing I made when I was a angsty twenty year old, who cares" thing. Or is it just Matt being a dramawhore?
That's just too bad, I guess.
Gabriel Morales
>those views
Yeah, that's sad. And I really like his work. But he is shit at promoting his stuff and channel pretty much dead. He didn't even do E3 2018 video.
Aiden King
YouTube as a whole is just inhospitable to original animation. It's strange.
It was definitely the most popular thing he ever did, so it can't be just a "oh yeah, that was a thing."
Mason Barnes
Twitter killed web series. So did companies who combined talent animators to make a web series killed the web series. How can a single person compete against some bland popular game idea and be motivated to continue working solo without lives need of money? You can't unless you're already well off, have passion for sitting in front of a computer writing/animating/voicing, somehow not get deterred by much more popular and more profitable movies that aren't going your way but you still hold on to that glimmer of hope that what you're doing truly matters.
We all killed web series one way or another.
Jace Martin
How did web animation thrive on Newgrounds a decade ago?
Nathaniel Green
Because it was a trend, and everyone sucked at it. The seemingly low barrier to entry got people more into trying it out themselves, and you had more people that discovered it as a viable thing for them to do.
Aiden Jenkins
>Or is it just Matt being a dramawhore?
100% dramawhore. Never forget that Matt Wilson is (or at least was) a goon, and we all know how prone to drama they are.
>Huh? Why and how did he shut it down?
How: he contacted the admin of the wiki and told them to shut it down, they said no so he contacted the wiki host and lodged a complaint.
Why: he really, really, REALLY does not like his fans. Like at all.
Isaiah Stewart
To this day I still don't understand what people ever saw in BS. Bad animation, weird humor, nonsensical story..
Brayden Diaz
Back in the day kids on the internet just loved watching any kind of web show.
Lincoln Hughes
Weird synchronicity. This is right next to the Kappa Mikey thread, and Matt was an animator on that show.
The barrier to entry is still low. You'd think that would inspire people to try.
>Why: he really, really, REALLY does not like his fans. Like at all.
Why?
>weird humor
That's why. I'm not exaggerating when I say this show taught me to laugh.
Carson Gray
He had an LP channel for a while and was getting less than 10 views per video. I can't find it through google, I wonder if he gave up.
Xavier Stewart
Well, there's Simon's Cat for starters. (Seeing them doing little sponsor's side messages recently makes me a little sad though...)
Andrew Thomas
...which justifies harassment?
James Smith
I think he’s had a change of attitude recently. He was on an animation podcast and the first thing they talk about is High Score and Bonus Stage and he seemed cool with it. He also featured Bonus Stage on his channel trailer so he’s becoming more comfortable being associated with it.
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Angel Reyes
Well there's this
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Leo Reed
He’s a director on Pencilmation, one of the few successful non-preschool indie webseries on YouTube.
Been doing it for a while now.
Adrian Cruz
Well when you phrase it like that, yes
Eli Brooks
Oh, i love that series, didn't know he was involved with that.
Cooper Howard
I wonder what became of the creators of JoeCartoon and KillFrog
Easton Davis
They're hard to come by with how corporate everyone's become with making a series, but they're still out there.
Christian Barnes
Pen & Ink feels like one of those webseries that's going to hit mainstream popularity under everyone's noses, especially since the creator recently visited Frederator Studios.
Joshua Stewart
Man, that Bonus Stage promo image looks a little crappier every time I see it.
Even at that point he was capable of drawing kinda decently, but that's the image he chose to put on his merch.
Evan Moore
Jaxson Cox
there's always hazbin
Blake Martinez
He would probably have double his subscriber count and views if his cartoons were watchable. He splits up his 6 minute episodes into 3 parts, with these convoluted titles and in 480p. He’s holding himself back big time because I like most of his new content. Matt I hope you’re reading this, you need to fix your channel.
Dylan Thompson
I thrived on people's passion. You could be a lot of things like amateur voice acting, you can review as a critic, you had more voting power if you rated more movies, you had the audio portal for musical artists and they can be tagged in the animation you're working on. You'd even get trophies which made you want to be better. The front page was the best of the best. It wasn't so easy back then to get on it. You'd really have to pull in all the stops to get there or be an already established animator.
Now everyone has a camera on their phone that completely destroy old cameras so now you can literally do whatever with the lowest amount of effort with hardly any resources needed. You can be a instagram model, you can make vines off lil baby sketches that are funny yeah but wouldn't fly back then in Newgrounds. Everyone is just dangling keys in front of the camera and people either like it or not.
To be an animator right now with your own creative vision of a series is inspiring for sure but it has never been harder to get your footing with an audience. That's why there are so few now as opposed to back then.
Nathaniel Anderson
surprised no one mentioned a fox in space
Levi Murphy
probably because it's been 2 years since the first episode and all we have so far are clips for the second episode
Charles Ward
based and redpilled
Ayden Young
>tfw you don't live in the timeline where "The Stupid adventures of Mark and Tony" became a full series
It's not fair!
Isaiah Perez
I think Deadly Space Action was his best out of the new stuff, and he neglects it.
Grayson Sanders
>To be an animator right now with your own creative vision of a series is inspiring for sure but it has never been harder to get your footing with an audience.
To think, back then the biggest worry for a newbie animator was "Oh shit, I need to learn Flash!".
God how times have changed.
Camden Peterson
I'm pretty sure he said deadly space action was over which is a shame because it was easily his strongest series,
puzzle hunters is ok but i feel it needs more episodes to proper find it's footing,
I really disliked princess ness though, it felt so awkwardly paced and a lot of the jokes just missed for me.
Matt really should have done a lot better but there were so many little things that prevented him ever making it unfortunately, which is a shame because he has a really good work ethic and is consistent at writing good jokes.
Sebastian Reyes
Yeah, there he is. Some of those videos have literally zero views, I don't know how that even happens.
Tyler Myers
>create terrible webseries with unfunny jokes 99% of the time
>want desperately to be homestar runner
>fail
>get mad at your own creation
>kill off one main character
>have the other main character hang himself without any irony in the tone
>be surprised when people get turned off by your series
Aaron Parker
>>have the other main character hang himself without any irony in the tone
To be fair: choco taco time
Easton Collins
I'M FUCKING WORKING ON IT DAMN, IT'S HARD HAVING A JOB, AND SHIT TO TAKE CARE OF, AND NOT EVEN HAVE A PATREON EITHER.
Angel Evans
it's okay user, work at your own pace
Ethan Ortiz
fuck off dewd.
Ethan Flores
You can't even manage to draw a still image properly, or consistently from panel to panel. How the living fuck do you think that you could animate? Regardless, it's a pretty safe bet that once your done producing your abortion of an "animation," you're going to spam it all over here with your trip off pretending people actually follow your shit.
You really are the epitome of the trash that generals produce, dewd.
Benjamin Jenkins
Nice bump :^)
Thomas Scott
you're ugly and no one will ever love you
Gabriel Harris
>YOU CAN'T EVEN DRAW HOW DO YOU HOW TO MAKE A WEB SERIES
>He says in a fucking thread with Bonus Stage as the OP image
Nolan Adams
this is literally the only truly great joke in bonus stage