Has anyone considered that the Mind Stone actually just kickstarted/woke their mutant genes...

Has anyone considered that the Mind Stone actually just kickstarted/woke their mutant genes, rather than the story we’re given at face value that it imbued them with their powers? I think that’d be a solid way to transition into introducing “mutants were here the whole time” if the events of IW and Endgame and the use of the gauntlet spark a worldwide phenomenon of mutant genes activating where they were formally dormant. Say, have just a handful of mutants that already had their powers (Xavier, magneto, etc) but kept it under wraps for decades to protect the few others.

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I fully expect that to be the retcon. If anything exposure to it will probably be the "trauma" that leads to the manifestation more than anything.

Another fag that wants x-men/ mutants in the mcu.
Its better as separate universes.
Grow up.
How are you gonna give all the characters spot light and do proper origin stories if one day its just "oh they awakened" so gay for all the mutant character origns... Jean's dead childhood frend for example.

I said there could be a handful that already have their mutant backstories but it was kept quiet and out of public eye. Why are you so mad.

It's possible that the mutant gene was EXTREMELY rare, and hardly ever manifested. You could argue that in the MCU timeline, Charles and Erik were the small handful, like 1 in a billion odds, that ever found each other. With the infinity stones un-snapping all life, it's possible that those who come back trigger the gene and the rest will fall in place.
It's going to happen whether we like it or not. Furthermore, fuck Jean Grey. She's a cancer on X-Men

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>Has anyone considered that the Mind Stone actually just kickstarted/woke their mutant genes, rather than the story we’re given at face value that it imbued them with their powers?

Yes, lost of people think that. We've had countless threads about that very subject. But you know what? It doesn't matter. Because Wanda and Pietro aren't even Mutants in the comics, so why make them Mutants in the movies?

Also, Captain Marvel more or less has powers for the exact same reason they do, only with a different Infinity Stone. So unless she's a Mutant too, there's no in-universe reason to assume Wanda and Pietro are.

It's not gonna happen.
You cant write the entire x-men team and avengers team into one movie. Cast would be too large and if it does happen.. Your gonna get shit versions of every x-men character.

You dont have to make a big crossover, just small team ups work as well, and have them stack.

Retcons are shit especially when done by shit writers. Only a matter of time until its retconed back.

That’s a retcon tho. Which is fine, whatever, but for the larger portion of their characters’ existence they were born mutants and their pops is Magneto. I think it’d add more emotional weight if it turned out the stone just woke up the mutant gene in them.

That'll be the retcon, yes. It was always bullshit that the mindstone made quicksilver run fast

First of all, I'm pretty sure they'd introduce X-Men first before crossing over with Avengers, second, half the cast is going to be gone by Endgame, and finally third, Endgame's cast is already going to be a bloated shitshow.

>Also, Captain Marvel more or less has powers for the exact same reason they do, only with a different Infinity Stone. So unless she's a Mutant too, there's no in-universe reason to assume Wanda and Pietro are.
Pretty much this

What? Lmao
They'll build their own xmen movie continuity from the ground up and probably wont even rely on tired old avengers.

And you know this as a certainty, how? You seriously think Disney bought most of fucking Fox NOT to have Wolverine meet The Avengers? Sure, pal.

Why would they restrain the xmen catalog by making it fit with the story thats estblished in avengers? Seems like a waste of potential. Xmen has the better villains, stories and characters and would infinitely more successful not being tied t avengers and what is already established.

>And you know this as a certainty, how?

Not the other user, but nobody knows that. But it's the most sensible course. It's too late for Mutants to exist in the MCU and to never have them come up. And Infinity Gauntlet retcon shit won't fly. It never will. Having the X-men contained in their own universe truly is the best thing for them and for separate Marvel titles.

They bought because avengers is tired and coming to and end and the actors are putting their contracts off.
They need a new franchise to develop and explore. Cant keep beating the dead horse of avengers

>And Infinity Gauntlet retcon shit won't fly
Says fucking who? IT REWRITES FUCKING REALITY.
The Avengers is an ever changing roster, and they'll milk that shit for all it's worth. Like Spider-Man, the X-Men were bought so eventually one or two of them will be in an Avengers film. I'm not saying I want, I'm merely reading the room

They debuted in the Avengers comics. They don't need to be retconned to veing mutants

Ironic because that's what literally happened in comics

Motherfucker did you watch infinity war. It’s completely doable.

I'm aware. It doesn't need to be done in two mediums

>Says fucking who?
That it's ridiculously lame. Even a normie would would be able to see how much of an obnoxious asspull it would be.

>IT REWRITES FUCKING REALITY.
It rewrites what the person using the Gauntlet wants. The whole point or Endgame is for the Avengers to undo everything the snap did. Which they'll obviously do. It'd make no sense for one of them to want to just give random thousands of cunts on Earth superpowers.

I always assumed that they were using magic without knowing it.

Doctor Strange explained that magic is drawing on the energies and forces of other dimensions, an ability you can attune yourself to by the proper state of mind.

So Peitro gets attuned to some kind of !speedforce/dimension with a faster rate of time and thats his superspeed explained, and Wanda gets a more generalized sort of magic (chaos magic dimension, maybe?) and so she gets something closer to an actual sorcerer but with none of the training needed to use her powers to their fullest extent.

If drawing powers from other dimensions is a mental matter, then saying the Mind Stone blew open their third eye or whatever isn't the most bullshit explanation you could give.

The mutants were always here since day 1 in MCU. Charles was just stopping humans from seeing them

The Infinity Gauntlet itself, since day one, was an asspull. And you're not getting the point
>Okay we got to wish back half of the universe
>We did it, but we kind of fucked up and 1 in a million people have weird side effects/powers

Fuck off with your Evolution shit. It was dumb then

Yeah this is the thought I had. Basically I think the best way to make it work is
>mutants are incredibly rare, only around 100 exist
>professor X and Magneto are some of the oldest
>Professor X uses his powers to cover up the appearance of a new mutant (a few groups like Weapon-X, a secret branch of Shield, know about mutants)
>The X-men are essentially just a team used to safely retrieve young mutants with dangerous powers.
>Magneto lived in Sokovia, keeping his abilities secret from everyone including his family. He lives there because he retrieves and smuggles young mutants from Eastern Europe into the United States in order to safely get them to the brotherhood of mutants/Xavier’s institute
>Magneto thinks the twins died in the attack. He moves back to the states.
>professor X, Magneto, and the X men are working overtime since mutants are showing up much more often than they normally do.
>Magneto sees scarlet witch on tv during the events of civil war. He tries to convince Charles to bring her in to the institute, but Charles says that it would be impossible for him to completely cover up the existence of scarlet witch, so Magneto regrettably leaves her alone, stewing in the fact that public opinion has shifted to a position against them via a mistake by Wanda.
>infinity war happens, people die, etc.
>Magneto is pissed at Xavier for being such a pacifist and leaves with half of the mutants to Genosha or the savage lands.
>mutants are showing up so often now that it is no longer feasible to keep them secret.
>Magneto comes to the public eye, declaring mutants as the next step in human evolution.
>the X-Men convince Professor X to let them enter the public eye as an example of how mutants can be good.
Then you get AvX which turns into Avengers and X-men vs The brotherhood of mutants. Rogue puts c, hulk fights juggernaut. Magneto stops Thor’s hammer. Flashback to wolverine and Cap together in WW2. Its a fun time.

>Flashback to wolverine and Cap together in WW2
Will never happen. Evans is done.


Also, say hello to an inevitable apocalyptic future scenario. Because there is no such thing as a happy, prosperous future where Mutants exist. So be prepared to watch as everything that Tony, Cap, and Thor fought and died to protect is made futile and is utterly torn down and destroyed because Mutants ruin everything in the end when they're thrown into the equation.

>and the use of the gauntlet spark a worldwide phenomenon of mutant genes activating where they were formally dormant. Say, have just a handful of mutants that already had their powers (Xavier, magneto, etc) but kept it under wraps for decades to protect the few others.
Would work pretty well, desu.
Which means they'll go with something dumber

Eh, they could probably get Evans to show up for a day of filming for a cameo if they really wanted to.

>Evans to show up for a day of filming for a cameo if they really wanted to.

If HE wanted to. They can't make him do anything anymore. He's no longer contractually obliged. He's made it quite clear he no longer wants to be in the MCU, or even in front of the camera, anymore.

I like this, user.

They debuted in X-Men #4 idiot

that's how it was in the comics for decades. jesus christ, why are there so many casuals here?

With fucked up colors that look great on quicksilver but terrible on scarlet witch

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>You seriously think Disney bought most of fucking Fox NOT to have Wolverine meet The Avengers? Sure, pal.

Sure they want to do that eventually, but Wolverine won't be Hugh Jackman, and most of the original 6 MCU Avengers will probably be gone by the time it happens.

>Wolverine won't be Hugh Jackman
You guys act like this was some phenomenal loss. I love Hugh, but c'mon. Let's at least get a short guy this time

Yeah, I want a short actor that I’ve never heard of. Also Disney should just pick up Henry Cavill and use him as cyclops.

It's whether casuals and normies will accept the replacement, not how comic-accurate they are. Recasting a character can always be an improvement or can always get worse, but for characters like Wolverine or Iron Man, where one guy has played the same role for over a decade, let's not pretend that the new guy isn't going to have an uphill struggle to get audiences to accept them, unless a significant period of time is allowed to pass before casting someone new.

After several re-castings of a character, people can start to judge each one on it's own merits, but the first recasting will always live in the shadow of the original unless they really make the role their own. And an Avengers vs X-Men movie in the late 2020s, with a new X-Men cast fighting an Avengers team that doesn't have Iron Man and Captain America, and maybe not Thor or Hulk either, people are just going to be disappointed that this didn't happen earlier with the 'real' versions of both teams.

>Henry Cavill and use him as cyclops
Too bulky

With Pietro already dead in the MCU, and Wanda having historically much less ties to the X-books in comics, there's no reason for the MCU to retcon her into being a mutant, nor connect her to an MCU version of Magneto that might not ever exist, if they follow the MCU Spider-Man plan of not re-using villains from previous movies.

>and finally third, Endgame's cast is already going to be a bloated shitshow.

From what little we know, it may only get that crowded for the final battle. Most of the cast that 'died' during Infinity War were not around for much of the Endgame filming, and speculation is that most of them will only be in the movie for less than 10 minutes.