WHY GODDAMMIT??!!?
WHY GODDAMMIT??!!?
There's really no way to write this confrontation without Bruce coming across like a huge tool. Maybe if you set it up so it's like, the second time he's seen Joker and all he's done so far is rob banks and pie a few people.
>why didn't DC let marvel kill off one of their most famous and profitable characters ever in a goofy one shot crossover
I dunno , why didn't the Punisher end up in Arkham? he's probably killed as many people as Joker.
Because the writer is dumb.
Wouldn't you try and protect your lover from a murderous maniac?
This is so sweet tho
Punisher isn't allowed to kill characters that matter or actually do something worth while. Batman was upholding the almighty rules of the fourth wall.
>Punisher: "...I can end it right here and now."
Batman: *Batropes Joker, tying him to the ground* "We're taking him in, Castle. Save your bullets for the warzone. They don't belong on these streets."
>"One bullet could save countless lives! You'd have to be an idiot to not see that."
B: "And meanwhile you'd tear the gaping wound in this city even wider with each pull of your trigger. In this city, Justice needs more servants, not more arbiters. Since before either of us can remember Gotham has been planted thick with people enforcing their own order on the world. People who thought *they* knew what was right and wrong. That *they* could decide who lived or died."
*turns toward Joker, pulling against the ropes*
"Gotham needs something more than just another man creating his own vision of the world from the barrel of a gun. She needs order. *True* order. *True* Justice. Not one man's version of it. Not one he'd be willing to kill for."
>P: *Looks at Joker, lowers gun*
B: *Turns toward Punisher* "We operate outside the law, Castle. Maybe even above it. But we don't operate outside Justice. And Justice is bigger than the law. Bigger than both of us."
>P: *Dryly* "Until the next bribable judge or prison guard lets this maniac out again. Justice can only stand as tall as the last man holding it up."
B: "That's why we can't be just another trigger finger. You can't kill your way to a healed city."
>P: "Forgive me if I tend to think otherwise."
B: "There'll be time enough to play executioner once the judge and jury have their say."
*looks back a Joker, who is still struggling to get free*
"But it's either everything or nothing. Yes, people will fail. Institutions will become corrupted. But if we give up on those, we don't have a city..."
*looks back to Punisher"
"...we have a battlefield."
*looks to Gotham skyline*
"And as long as I fight, I will fight to save this city. Because I believe in Justice. I believe in Gotham."
While I was writing it I could honestly imagine the Joker just yelling:
"GODDAMMIT JUST *KISS* ALREADY WILL YOU?"
Okay I'll buy your issue.
Damn son
I've always felt that the DCAU had the right idea about the Joker: Keep him as a crime boss/ clown themed nuisance for as long as possible so it makes sense that the worst he gets is jail time. Then when he does cross the line its much more shocking and actually tests Bruce, instead of like the comics where he's a mass murderer yet still treated only as bad as the riddler or penguin.
The fact he complied and ran says more about Joker than any action on Batman's part
Does Joker only mess with Batman because he knows he won't die? I would like to have seen him confront and face down Punisher with a genuine threat of death
>You'd have to be an idiot if you don't see that.
>If. I'm obviously not an idiot.
He should go defiant laconic and beat Punisher down without a long expose obviously written by a teenager
That's actually a key distinction. The batman/joker thing is a little repetitive, but we all know why. It's because DC knows Batman/Joker is a bankable conflict, and people will pay to keep seeing it. So they keep rebooting it.
But it's not fair to translate that (executive decision) into a weakness for the story itself. The batman/joker say, a 25 year career fighting each other in a given storyline. How many times does the Joker escape from arkham within that time period? And what development does either character go through in the timeline of *that specific retelling?* Based on that you can always write the arcs of each so that their choices make more sense.
And let the joker get away? C'mon senpai.
>You can't kill your way to a healed city."
B: Turns to the Joker "Lets go."
Batman takes the Joker down the alley.
>P: "Bitch please." Blasts Batman in the back of the head JFK style. Then double taps Joker.
Not really a chance that they would ever print that. But I'm an ass that goes for the edgy shit.
He will tie the Punisher up with Joker back-to-back and let them both feel humiliated and helpless, but for opposite reasons.
Cringey too
bitch please *taps u in the back of the head jfk style* welcome to earf.
*bullet ricochets off Batman's Level V ballistic cowl. Batman slowly, coolly turns to Punisher.*
B: "The problem with shooting your way out of every situation is that eventually, even the bullets end up getting stopped."
*Batarangs Punisher, knocks him out, throws him in Arkham where he's gangraped by Croc, Bane, and Grundy.*
"P" ran like a bitch.
Idk man I kinda see them being buddies.
>scene of gang rape
Heh heh. Now this is how we Crocs do it
*whips out massive croc dick*
*makes Punisher wear a haphazardly cobbled together Bat cowl and fucks him while calling him Uncle Bruce*
xd
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Gentlecroc Monthly says
>Batman stopped an insane edgelord
What's the problem? This is literally an average day for him.
I always wait for the third Batdate
Absolutely kino
>human leather shoes for crocodile dandies.
>Gotham needs something more than just another man creating his own vision of the world from the barrel of a gun. She needs order. *True* order. *True* Justice. Not one man's version of it. Not one he'd be willing to kill for.
You've been at this for 80 years, Batman. You're no closer to giving Gotham order and justice than you were in 1939.
>why didn't the Punisher end up in Arkham?
I think that would work out fairly well for Gotham actually.
Oh my fucking god
>Meanwhile Joker kills another 43 people, women and children too
My belief is that he's trying to get one of them killed. If he kills Batman, he wins. If Batman kills the Joker, he's successfully pissed off the bat and corrupted his morals. As long as neither dies, the Joker can keep playing his games, but if one of them ends up dead, it's a victory for him either way.
I also think the Joker would prefer the idea of Batman killing him rather than him killing Batman. He tries, but he expects to fail; in some stories where it looks like Batman has been killed, he doesn't seem to know what to even do anymore.
Anyway, he wants to troll Batman, provoke reactions, and corrupt him. But the Punisher is not part of the Bat-family, so the Joker has no interest in him. Besides, Frank's already a murderer, so he can't have fun corrupting that guy.
>>why didn't DC let marvel kill off one of their most famous and profitable characters ever in a goofy one shot crossover
Because it would have been badass.
I like when crossovers have meaningful repercussions. Like how Spawn's face was held together by a shoelace for years after Batman vs Spawn.
Imagine being the Joker and the sense of victory you would feel being juggled by Batman's tard strength while he spergs out DOUGLAS REID IS A GOOD MAN
Dude's day was probably made right there