So...she's just a cannon that'll shoot down spaceships in Endgame? That's literally it, right?
Don't even give her any lines in Endgame. She didn't even say anything worthwhile in her own movie.
So...she's just a cannon that'll shoot down spaceships in Endgame? That's literally it, right?
Don't even give her any lines in Endgame. She didn't even say anything worthwhile in her own movie.
That suit is way better
My theory is she's gonna be the Adam Warlock stand-in; the person who everyone praises as the mary-sue to kill Thanos, but ultimately succumbs to the power of the stones herself
Wonder Woman was amazing in her movie but shit in Justice League so there's hope Endgame's Director will do a better use of her.
I really hope your right, because that movie was just boring as hell.
Where were you when everyone was right about Miss Marvel being the worst Avenger? Me, not seeing this boring trash fire.
>still SEETHING this hard
I liked the movie but feel troubled about her role in Endgame. The movie will be the grand farewell if the classic lineup. How are they going to balance things so Marvel's presence don't trivialize every other avenger?
They should have made Scarlet Witch the main female character.
Thor was already able to one-shot gauntet Thanos. The main conflict is finding a way to undo his damage.
Wonder Woman was good in a lot of scenes in Justice League.
Whedon scenes are just shit in general.
>I'M NOT GOING TO FIGHT YOUR INFINITY WAR.....I'M GOING TO END IT!
I think the Russos aren't exactly quite as good at balancing out ensembles as Whedon, so I'm concerned about this desu. I don't think the main cast will be trivialized though, they usually focus more on bigger characters to the detriment of the supporting cast.
Her only good scene was the foiled bank robbery which was admittedly cool but that's it.
Probably, but it's confirmed that she's going to pwn Thanos. I'm sorry.
Well that's the death of the MCU I guess.
I don't want to watch her shit movie. Can I just watch Endgame without seeing Captain Marvel for context?
no please watch it
It makes my dick hard every time they whine.
Well, at least it was self inflicted as DC/WB wasn't going to do it.
I assumed she would be Silver surfer's stand-in. Her function would be to zoom past really really fast and snatch the gauntlet.
This sort of thing seems likeliest.
It gives basically no worthwhile info outside of "a more boring version of Supergirl now exists in the MCU"
Easy skip
>Marvel allowing Captain Feminism to fail
Try again.
WW was shit
There is a spoiler about how, exactly, Carol gets her powers that will almost certainly be extremely relevant to her role in Endgame. The fact that she can fly and blast things is less important when fighting Thanos than WHY she can fly and blast things.
Carol can destroy Infinity Stones just like Wanda could, because her powers are derived from an Infinity Stone too
>OWIE, MY INFINITY STONES
You really need a better sexual life, Laddersis.
How come Carol acts more like an emotionless robot more than Vision?
Literally explained in the movie.
See you say that and yet even after she regains her memory she’s still fucking wood
Because regaining her memory doesn't erase the last 6 years of being mindfucked and told that victory only comes with repressing the shit out of your emotions? What, did you expect a 1020 degree personality shift after the flashback scene? Would you have been happy with that kind of writing?
I would have been happy with a script that didn’t cater to Brie’s shitty acting ability. I miss drunk hothead Carol
>I miss drunk hothead Carol
They won't even let Tony Stark drink. You were as likely to get drunk hothead Carol as you were to get dumb swimsuit Carol: no chance in hell.
I could have told you that more than a year ago, man.
Disney deserves to burn.
So I wasn't the only one especially enjoying particular parts of the movie, knowing Yea Forums and Yea Forums would go full sperg when they hate watched it?
>I miss drunk hothead Carol
So her being told to stay in control of her emotions all movie, or one of the hints that helped her unravel her past being a goddamn bar wasn't enough? It really had to be her swigging from the upside bottle, didn't it?
Way I see it, execs at Disney screwed the pooch and its downhill from here.
They know MCU is running out of steam. People are starting to fatigue on supers. This doesn't help that the most iconic super hero actors in the MCU are aging. So they'll have to either recast, reboot, or pass the torch. Recasting wont work to well for established audiences at this point. Rebooting would be worse. Problem with passing the torch is people wont care long term. CM is an ok character at the best of times and isn't a great replacement iron man or capt. America. Take that with people not overly enthusiastic with the actress, CM debut as being semi meh, and the grand storyline coming to a close (and will be hampered by CM most likely), and they dont have much to go on going forward.
Strap in cause endgame will be aiite and will probably retire most of the super heroes and launch a mee avengers that will be eh, and hype will just fizzle put until Disney says there's no more money in it. That's how the mcu is gonna end. On a cliff hanger probably.
>still being this mad
Why do you even care?
have sex incels
She's going to be one of the big guns alongside Thor plus any surprise introduction. But people thinking she will alone defeat Thanos is an idiot. The trailer and the list of snap surviving characters should make it obvious that this movie is an "end of an era" kind of movie and a send off for (most) of the OG6 Avengers, and they are the ones that will shine the most.
After this movie though, Carol will be pushed as the main face of the MCU. Or she will if she's well received by audiences.
She will defeat Thanos and Cap will sacrifice himself to resurrect everyone that died in IW. That's it.
Again, that was specifically written to compensate Brie’s limited acting range
Okay, bubbe. Whatever you say. You're a special boy, which means you're always right. I'm sure someone as talented as yourself, or whomever you would have cast instead of her would have done a much better job.
Nobody expected Warlock to physically stand up to Thanos. He was a strategist through the entire Infinity Gauntlet event and never actively took part in the fight. I don't even remember what powers are despite reading all of the old Infinity comic events.
That’s not an argument, user, and I never said I was an actor myself. I didn’t hate the movie, I just noticed that was one of its weaker points, just like Carol never really struggling with her own power. Quit acting like a child.
You said an Oscar winning actress had limited acting range. You didn't qualify that statement as tied to her performance in this specific film. You challenged her capacity as a person. Whether you value what an Oscar represents or not, either position when applied to a dismissal of Brie's acting range is contradictory to what the award itself or reception of one signifies within pop culture. In my book, those are arguments.
Now I'd imagine that if you're willing to dismiss her being told to reign in her emotions as a crutch for her "limits a performer," than her being trained to the degree of being given a power governor to limit the degree to which she was able to access her power, while also being written as having been trained in person for up to 6 years in the fundamentals of accessing and making use of her power source probably counts as a crutch as well.
Nevermind the fact she was put in a simulation tied to her physical presence and was put in a baptism by fire situation where she needed to learn how to access and make use of her powers, otherwise she would have been cognitively altered by the Supreme Intelligence again.
For the record, we aren't talking about nuanced use of her powers that'd require much struggle to master. She functioned with the sophistication of a bazooka. She realized she had been held back, removed the governor, and applied her unrestricted power in the direction it needed to go to stop whatever was presenting a threat. I'd be shocked if she doesn't show up with a higher degree of mastery (that she will have had 20+ years to develop and struggle to master) in Endgame.
As for accusations of childishness, you/someone said something wasn't there, then when given examples where it actually was, dismissed them, and attacked the acting range of an actress.
>The trailer and the list of snap surviving characters should make it obvious that this movie is an "end of an era" kind of movie and a send off for (most) of the OG6 Avengers, and they are the ones that will shine the most.
Think again.
I feel as though I’ve touched a nerve here for you to write all that out, and the time it took to post that.
>People are starting to fatigue on supers
>Quit acting like a child.
Okay here is a thorough response.
>I seem to have upset you.
She slept with some rich producer to get an Oscar. These turbofeminists of Hollywood all have a dirty ass.
Brie is a mediocre actress.
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KALEL NO
Well then let me try, again, to explain to you some the missteps Captain Marvel has.
Carol never struggles with her power, or at least visibly. Any training she had was off screen with 6 years of trials we never saw, not even a montage. We are TOLD Carol can’t control her power, and yet every encounter we see she seems pretty competent with them thus giving us a false sense of tension. Moreover, we never see her show fear, uncertainty, or anything regarding her gift. Yes we are again, TOLD it’s because Kree trainee her to be “without emotion”, but the simple fact is that she isn’t Kree, she’s human, and even embraces this fact by the end when talking to the SI. At this point of the plot when she gets a HUGE power leap, she never really has trouble with that either. In the beginning she blows a hole in a Skrull ship when nerfed, and yet doesn’t accidentally do so when fighting 100x that on Mar-Vell’s ship? She also seems to be aware that she’s invulnerable, strong, and can fly at the flip of a switch when Ronan’s forces attack.
Again, I don’t hate the film, I just acknowledge it’s flawed. Learn to take criticism
So most of that is what I expected. I know SHOW DON'T TELL. Usually I mind it, but considering that she is shown to have been a member of multiple Marshall forces, If we didn't need to see all of her USAF training, why should we need the same for her Starforce training? It's clearly shown to operate thoroughly.
>She also seems to be aware that she’s invulnerable, strong, and can fly at the flip of a switch when Ronan’s forces attack.
Strong I can't speak to. Personally I just thought that she was willing to throw herself in to stop the attack with no guarantee of her own safety. In most instances that's just dismissed as a hero being heroic. In Carol's that is also nothing new. She was shown in the go kart, or jumping from the rope, to have done things with no certainty that she would succeed her entire life, but still doing them anyway. What a little hothead, right? Anyway, what I can say though, is in the lab, right after she gets her power leap, she shoots her beams at some of the Kree soldiers, and the propulsion sends her backwards, and even with Brie's limited range, it looked to me that Carol noticed and acknowledged that. So it wasn't that she just knew. She had seen herself that she could propel herself, and I'd imagine that a pilot might be able to put two and two together to apply strong enough propulsion physics in the right direction to be able to fly. With respect to invulnerable, when she was trying to blow a hole in the escape craft that Jude Law was in, when he drops down before she can blast a hole, she is without her helmet, thereby "unprotected" from the vacuum of space, to a such a degree that while falling, she puts it back on, which seemed like she was still under the impression that she needed it. Given an opportunity to reflect on her not having been killed without it, she might have been able to rationalize that her power might also be able to protect her.
It seems to me that you’re being overly forgiving and doing mild mental gymnastics to justify the weak areas of the script, user. No offense. Even with her pilot experience, she shouldn’t be able to master flying because the plot says so. You’re equating physics and physical controls with information readouts......to Carol just doing it herself? Even Superman needed to practice flying for a bit. For a film that stresses that her character is strong because she gets up every time she fails, she seems to fail very little post accident
No offense taken.
As for mild mental gymnastics...okay. I thought I was just repeating back parts of the movie I only saw once, and without having seen your critiques before either.
I think Tony Stark, minus the 10% accident was able to hover after adding hand stabilizers to his boots, applying propulsion in the right direction despite only having been an engineer, the same way Carol propels herself as well, without ailerons, a rudder, or flaps. I think Hal Jordan, another test pilot, can put on the most powerful weapon in the DCU, and fly because he knows how it feels to fly. I think we are shown that Carol, like Hal, doesn't need information readouts to be able to fly. She gets in a prototype Quinjet, and just knows, because as she says while the Skrulls are probing her mind, she prefers being in the sky. She is a flier. In a lot of movies, a character just needs to say that and you believe them. So, no offense, but as entitled are you are to think I'm being overly forgiving, I think you're being overly critical, and that's just my opinion. Especially around these parts, I don't believe you're in the minority. And that's okay. I'm glad you liked the movie. I wish you could have liked it more, but I wasted years on this board debating movies I wanted to love that broke my heart, and I'm not about to do that again for a movie I enjoyed.
Captain Marvel is a red herring, Thanos will be defeated by Squirrel Girl.
Captain and Iron-Man will defeat Thanos and sacrifice themselves in the process.
I don't think they have the balls to kill off both at once, but probably one of them will die
I think the Away from Home trailer lacking Stark is a fake-out. Tony will survive but retire from Iron-Manning for good. Steve will sacrifice himself and walk into the afterlife received by Peggy, that's why they have him looking at Peggy's photo in the trailer.