So wait just a damn minute... If Carol was in space this whole time...

Yes there’s somehow not enough resources

Correct.

Yes, but happy the world was going to be killed so it makes no sense they didn't send help

Kree have been at war with them for 1,000 years, so she has to know about them. On top of that she thinks the Kree are on the wrong side of their wars, so she should have done something to help them.
Plus, it's actually explained why earth doesn't pitch in for Annihilation.

That's why his own people and even his "adopted" daughter told him he was fucking crazy.
The advanced races can build/repair shit with Nanomachines. Planets would have to be hive worlds 40 miles deep to be running out of resources.
Yet every alien society we've been shown, from Gamora's homeworld, to Xandar to even pre-destruction Titan were uncrowded places with decent climes and low pollution.

He's just a crazy fucker. Probably from his early contact with the Mind Stone, which has a history in the MCU of making people erratic.

Ross would get on his knees and suck Cap's dick if he thought he could suck some Erskine's serum out, but he wants to be able to boss powerful people around and Cap is just another in a long line of people who won't take Ross's shit.

Busy keeping Galactus at bay.

Carol was in fuck off uncharted waters of space trying to find a new Skrull home, FAR away from Kree space.

Thanos attacking Xandar was first referenced in Infinity War, the same movie that first referenced Captain Marvel?

We don't know that Carol has been flying through space playing "Galactic Protector".
She left with the intention of gathering up Skrulls and helping them find a home well out of Kree Space. She also told her old boss she had intentions to put her foot up the Supreme Intelligence's ass. We don't know how far she got along with Plan A or Plan B, but she never expressed any desire to protect the Galaxy from "Evil".
One could surmise she never got finished with at least B because she never returned to Earth.

For 20 years?

Space is big. Plus the Kree have a lot of territory.

She was probably too busy fucking around with whatever the Kree were doing at the time. The better question is why she dind't even know about Ronan going bonkers in GotG. You'd think that would get her attention.

Ross was the real villain of Infinity War

Shit like this is literally standard fare in comic books, and has always been for dozens of years, why the fuck is everyone getting super fucking critical of plot contrivances when it comes to Captain Marvel?

It's a fucking super hero movie, it doesn't have to make sense, for fuck's sake. Literally "why doesn't superman stop the joker" level question. Carol wasn't there because it wouldn't make for a good story you fucking child.

Not going to work Mr.Morrison. So who puts air in the bat-mobile tires? You need to step up your writing game.

>It doesn't have to make sense
>We don't need good writing!
>Nobody is allowed to think critically!
>Stop using your brain!

Straight up fuck off with that retarded rhetoric. Don't blame the reader because you can't write worth a damn

For a film universe where every film is connected, someone marketed to be as important as Captain Marvel MUST have some kind of influence or be known through out the universe. As far as we know, no one’s mentioned her EVER in the previous films. I get that she was just introduced, but adding a new characters where you claims she’s super important, badass, OP and the best ever, it will cause some serious problems to the narrative so far. If she was so damn good and important, where was she whenever one of the 9 Realms had a hizzy fit, or when Ronan or Thanos attacked Xandar? Did she ever try to deal with Ego? What about the Chitauri or Gamora, Nebula or the Black Order? Her being introduced so late and being shown as super important warrants asking these questions because we expect them to answer WHERE THE HELL HAS SHE BEEN THIS ENTIRE TIME!?

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Space is quite big, user.

Alfred more than likely. He does pretty much everything else in the manor and cave.

Havent seen it yet but I'm curious as to what connection Carol has to the big brute (forget his name) in the Black Order. She obviously ran into him at some point and lost to him as he has a part of her costume as a trophy attached to his belt. So this shows that Carol has had run ins with Thanos and his crew and we know from Infinity War that Thanos has been seeking out the stones for a very long time. So as many have stated, why didnt Carol rally the troops so to speak?

Too busy being a stronk female.

Silly user, women can't read.

>If Carol was in space this whole time
Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.

Did they not explain where she was or why Fury didn't call her during the invasion of New York or Ultron?

>WHERE THE HELL HAS SHE BEEN THIS ENTIRE TIME!?
Probably somewere in the Milky way you faggot. GotG takes place almost entirely in the Andromeda Galaxy. She might have even gone off to some even further galaxy, in an effort to get the Skrull as far from Kree space as possible. What part of "Space is big" don't you understand?

why carpet bomb when you can throw spears at the aliens

>Space is big
>that's why she can be reached by pager
Nope, sorry, you failed, guy

Retard this argument could be applicable for most comics too.

Sorry, what exactly is your point?

>Space is big!
>Space is big!
>Space is big!
>Space is big!
I guess this is going to be the new, "Dr. Strange looked at fifty billion timelines!"

>defending bad writing in every medium
Sad.

Because there is no air in space.

But somewhere in that 20 years she ran into the Black Order as Black Dwarf has some part of her costume as a trophy. We know it's her costume and not a Kree uniform cuz it has the color scheme she changed into on Earth. So judging by this she must have run into Thanos at some point and even learned of the Infinity Stones. I mean with how expansive and advanced the Kree empire is surely she must have know about the Stones and also know about the Mad Titan.

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Sorry to break it to you, but screenrant.com/infinity-war-captain-marvel-easter-egg-illusion/

Is this confirmed anywhere or just an easter egg or coincidence?

You're the one that failed by thinking of "space" as a distinct single place where she's going to just run into the Grandmaster, Thanos, and Yondu by accident. Ever notice how every time they need a random planet for an action scene in this universe, it's a different planet pretty much every time? Yeah, there are estimated to be about 100 billion planets in our Galaxy alone. You still don't get it. She could go to a different planet to save a different species every day for the entire time she's been gone, and still never visit a planet we've seen before in canon.

Brainlet post.

>Why doesn't Superman stop the Joker
Isn't the entire Injustice franchise about that?

It's a trick of the light in that one scene.

>"space" as a distinct single place where she's going to just run into the Grandmaster, Thanos, and Yondu by accident
Just like in superhero stories!

>You still don't get it

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Earth was in "space" the whole time. How come Black Panther didn't hear about Ronan's attack on Xandar? That's how much sense your question makes.

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Tell me, why didn't Captain America hear about the rebellion on the planet Sakaar?

>He's just a crazy fucker. Probably from having to have his entire motivation re-written by morons.

Captain America has CM tier superpowers?

there's nothing to indicate she's omnipotent

No, why didn't he hear about the event? Sakaar is in space, Earth is in space. So why didn't he get the news of a rebellion on Sakaar?

That's a fair question. Hopefully Endgame gives us an explanation.

He's an Earth based hero and Earth sucks at galactic news. Captain Marvel is a galactic hero. That's a shit comparison.

Alright, can anybody give a better reason for Carol not being in any of the previous movies while still not contradict any of the lore?

It was her time of the month.

>Earth sucks at galactic news.
So what you're saying is that some parts of the universe are less technologically advanced, and don't have direct contact with other parts, so they don't immediately know about things that happen on the other side of a different galaxy. See what I'm getting at?

She didn't feel like it, LOL.

She was busy doing superman stuff. Travelled through wormhole to alternative universe or was kidnaped by interstellar molesters, or having a tea with Galactus. They'll probably gonna explain it latter, but the thing is she's so powerful that practically could be anywhere while doing anything

She's a galactic hero that apparently has a pager that can receive a signal from Earth. Something threatening to kill half of all life would be known to her if she existed at that time.

This really isn't the same thing as "why doesn't superman stop the joker." Batman stories usually take place in their own setting separate from Justice League shenanigans. In that case, it makes sense for Superman not to intervene from a story perspective because the setting has nothing to do with Superman. But, with this story, Captain Marvel is major aspect of the story and deals with cosmic type shit, which fits in Thanos' setting. In this case it is valid to question why Captain Marvel wasn't there to intervene with something as major as the Infinity Stones and the wipeout of half the universe.

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Ross would rather watch half the universe die than help Steve.

It's not the space from Star Wars. They don't have a space bar on every planet with tv that broadcasts all the space news.

a much better question is, why didn't nick fury call marvel when the chituari attacked

Feige said she's more powerful than Thanos.

She flew away in 90s and obviously has no account in Twitter nor Facebook to follow all the events via space wifi-network

Remember the pager.

She was afraid of Thanos, Ego, and Ronan w/ an Infinity Stone and decided to not intervene.

And Fury promised to never use it on minor events. And he obviously never used it prior to deal with everlasting mitten

>can receive a signal from Earth.
Yeah, from Earth. From Fury.
>Something threatening to kill half of all life would be known to her if she existed at that time.
You've shown no proof of that.

>Fury promised to never use it on minor events
The Chitauri seemed pretty major.

She was there, she was just offscreen the whole time, you missed her.

He had faith that his team had the threat contained, he said as much to the WSC.

i'm really not lookin forward to endgame now after captain marvel, what a shitshow

Since she didn't came he didn't call. They hardly scratched a single city and it lasted just a few hours.
He'd probably call for her in case of real threat to humankind or if core Evengers' team were defeated

A much better question, who do you think gives better blowjobs, the Chitauri or the Skrulls?

My guess is if the team failed to contain the invasion in New York, that would mean they had a planetary war on their hands, and he probably would call in CM at that point.

that doesn't indicate she's omnipotent., he might just mean she can punch him harder than he could punch her

a skrull that made itself look like a chitauri

Someone call the police. This man is talking sense!

Chitauri are just big insects with ant-like mouths.
Skrulls have warm flesh not to mention the ability to morth into anything and anyone.

We all know Feige is full of shit.

Ugh, have you seen a Chitauri face? It's a skeleton-horse-dog thing. At least with a Skrull you have those unique mouth ridges to give it a special something.

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I sure hope Fury didn't get killed in that case. I mean, he was under physical threat and had the one thing that could alert her since apparently she has no idea what's going outside her immediate area, so that could have been bad.

Even if that were true, it would only be in firepower and speed. Doesn't mean she can get everywhere instantaneously. Doesn't mean she always knows what's going on in the universe at a given time (Though come to think of it, it's kind of past due for them to introduce a hero with true Cosmic Awareness, they should get on that).

It's exactly what happened on Thanos snap. Yet survivors found the pager and activated it, obviously following some written instruction

>Doesn't mean she always knows what's going on in the universe at a given time
>Has tech that can contact Earth from anywhere
>Never uses it to watch the fucking news

>I mean, he was under physical threat
At the time of the invasion, he was out on the Helicarrier, not that close to Manhattan. He'd at least have time to get the signal out, assuming he had the pager on him, which he most likely would.

pretty sure there was an after credits scene where he turns it on before getting dusted

It's pain in the ass to find dem AA batteries in outer space

This is where we start seeing the overarching plot to Infinity War unravel.

you could say the same about peter quill

He could do the same before dying from wounds left by chitauri

There were already issues when they put the Avengers together in the first place. The second and third films just made it worse and Captain Marvel is just an unneeded retarded cherry on top.

>Never uses it to watch the fucking news
That's...not how anything works. Why would TV antennae broadcast a good enough quality signal for her to pick up? Both times in the movie she had to improve the earth device that was sending the signal so it would be picked up by alien communications.

I forgot the invention of news was restricted to Earth and every other civilisation reports current events solely by word of mouth my bad.

what xbox360 game is this

So now you're assuming there's an intergalactic news network that the different civilizations in the different galaxies all watch? You've got a lot of headcanons. Don't forget, the Grandmaster had never heard of Asgard. Quill didn't seem to know about the Colector until Gamora told him. The universe is big, and diverse, and there's a lot of different societies in it.

To watch kree news you probably gonna need i-Kree device and subscription to network, otherwise people on Earth could watch dem alien doramas.

The funny thing is, back in 2012, those graphics were pretty good. And even worse, it STILL looks better than some key uses of CGI in Captain Marvel.

The time between the destruction of Xandar and the snap isn't all that long, and Captain Marvel could have been literally anywhere during that time.

>So now you're assuming there's an intergalactic news network that the different civilizations in the different galaxies all watch?
>Thanos knows of secrets from all corners of everywhere
>No one else even talks

>movies with lower budgets have worse cgi
SHOCK

You keep making these extreme exaggerated statements, and it's just making your argument seem more and more ridiculous.

So thats what he does while sitting on the throne all those movies. He watches intergalactic CNN

They probably had a low budget so that if the movie didn't do well they would have made money back either way. It also tells me they didn't have much faith in Captain Marvel because if they did the movie would have had a higher budget.

If he watched galactic CNN he'd need to grow hair to dye.

She's just not very famous or popular character to begin with.

Then why did they even make her movie in the first place? If they wanted to make a female lead movie they should have gone with Black Widow, someone that is popular and people actually like.

Well they're getting a great return on investment then. The opening weekend is done now, and already the movie's made back $455 million.

Space action movies make more money than spy movies.

But that still doesn't mean they had faith in her.

They want her to become popular. That's why all the comic book ongoings despite the poor sales, thats why the movie. Marvel just needs to have a popular strong woman character with company's name, it's symbolic

>thanos has been purging since gamora was a child which if she's around quill's age would have put him as active in the same timeframe as the captain marvel movie
>space being big isn't an excuse since the kree and skrulls manage to navigate it and get to earth in around a day or two and the whole thing was about them trying to develop alternate warp technology

No, it doesn't. This movie had one of the lowest budgets I can find in Phase 3, at $152 million. Obviously Feige wanted the movie to do well, and sell millions of tickets, but he's a smart businessman, and he was hedging his bets that people wouldn't turn up for their first female-led film. Luckily for Marvel, it seems to be working, and the movie is already clearly profitable after one weekend.

Even if the movie is popular I don't think it's going to help out her comic sales.

Sooner or later it's gonna work. They don't need her to be the most moneymaking hero, just the most recognisable, like Mickey or Superman.

So what are you saying, she should have already had conflict with Thanos, given his reputation and her role as a galactic protector? It's a fair point, but we don't even know if Thanos was the biggest universal threat before the snap for carol to be busy with. Doctor Strange showed us dimensional predators that can consume entire planets and try to invade our reality. Ego was almost able to convert a massive swath of planets in the universe to his biological material. Maybe one warlord with a weird philosophy didn't seem like the most pressing threat at the time.

I doubt she will be the next Mickey or Superman, more like the next Supergirl.

There is Supergirl, Miss Marvel. They probably gonna present her in the next Carol's movie, if there'd be one

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But I still don't think she will be as popular as Superman just because she just got a movie. Superman has been around for decades and has earned the popularity, recognition and fan base. Meanwhile Marvel has been trying to force Carol Danvers popularity onto us instead of just letting us like her naturally.

Of course, it's gonna take lots of time.

Sure didn't with black panther judging by the numbers. What are they looking like after a year?

We know the Kree and Xandar are at fucking war, the Skrulls are refugees allegories and dispersed all over the universe.

Safe to say she eas busy avoiding the Kree-Xandar war, saving other Skrulls and in general other aliens prior to the Kree denouncing aggressiveness and Ronan going rogue (with the Supreme Intelligence blessing probably)

This. A million times this.
And people here wonder why no one IRL like then or their annoying nerdy tantrums.

Probably 15 to 20 years then, maybe more.

imagine a superhoes that didnt help civilians, ON CRIME SCENE

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Space is kind of big and she was busy elsewhere. Boom.

Time dilation

Hey, asshole, even if space is big, someone like Thanos, the Black Order, Ronan or the Chitauri would gain a reputation big enough to be known through out the known universe. Simply saying “space is big” isn’t a fucking excuse.

She's a raging alcoholic and was passed out from downing a couple gallons of space hooch from the local space 7-11.

A Chitauri using a forcefully-animated Skrull head as a shape-shifting necromantic fleshlight.

Shit you are right. Pagers have access to Facebook and Twitter now I guess

This would actually be a really cool twist; Thanos discovers he's fucking crazy because of the stones. He literally becomes the Mad Titan

What if Captain Marvel ended up getting caught in the Snap?

The Ravagers and Starlord certainly had no problem

Casual observer (rest of universe) vs researcher (Thanos). He has been looking for the stones for a long time so I'm pretty sure he's gone to whatever space library he could to look up information on them.

Huh, I'd never noticed that part of his outfit before but you're right.

Korath and Ronan have seen Carol in action so why does Korath say Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe in GotG?

that would have been interesting

don't air force vets have some sort of common personality dysfunction they could have added to her for flavour?

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she shows up in the after credits scene

novas didn't seem to give a shit about him either

Kind of looks like most of the major space people just took Thanos to be some popular third world warlord that fucks shit up in random parts of Africa no one can ever find on a map

Why were the Kree the bad guys, exactly? Why were they even at war with the Skrulls?

I thought the whole point of the Avengers was to have an Earth based superteam so he does not have to call her when shit goes down. They were still handling things so no need to call yet unless they lost the fight.

Marvel didn't plan Captain Marvel to be that relevant at first.

He didn't seem to think it was a big enough deal. The Avengers were keeping the Chitauri bottlenecked into a 10-block radius, and were winning up until the end. Whereas in Infinity War, aliens came to New York again, Tony Stark is nowhere to be found, Wakanda was under attack (and their energy signature was 10x bigger than the ship that took Tony), and people all over the city are turning to dust.

Because Carol danvers is an alcoholic piece of shit

Cap was part of a Kree spaceforce, star maps, and access to galactic news?

It was a plot point in Captain Marvel that the lightspeed engine being developed would allow Skrulls to reach new galaxies, as in the Skrull/Kree war was exclusively a Milky Way issue. The infinity stones are scattered across the entire universe, where the Milky Way to the universe is like an atom to the Milky Way. Events would be happening so far apart and so infrequently that word wouldn't spread fast enough through the universe.

The universe is a really fucking big place user, like really really fucking big. Like beyond the scope of human comprehension massive. The entirity of Star Trek happens in one quarter of one galaxy, and even then they didn't go through the whole quadrant.

>inb4 the retarded user gives you shit for believing there's libraries in space

Anyone else think there should've been a Captain Marvel movie like 3 years ago and have the sequel just come out now? It definatly feels like they were kinda restricted with what they could do before endgame.

I mean so is Thor with his new hammer apparently. Captain Marvel isn’t exactly unique in that regard. Hell give Tony a week in the lab and his next suit will probably be at least on par with Thanos, given that the last one was almost on his level.

But they're not women, dude. Women >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men, remember.

Douglas Adams isn’t funny.

It would be good writing to actually call him on that.

>"But the galaxy is huge with resources to support everyone you want to kill! It's just an allocation and infrastructure issue!"
>"AH YES, YOU SPEAK OF MATERIAL RESOURCES, BUT I SPEAK OF THE IMMATERIAL. THE VITAL SPARK OF LIFE THAT WE ALL SHARE HAS BEEN DILUTED TO MUCH blah blah blah"
>"Oh no, he's just fuckin crazy and not a misunderstood genius at all."

>Ronan
I don't get the impression that she gave a shit about him, since she could've ended him right there on Earth but let them get away. And the attack on Xandar wasn't "known" by the public until the invasion was happening. Gamora only knew about it because she met him.

>Ego
That guy didn't enact his plan until Starlord started blasting him when he found out about how his mother died. If Ego hadn't said anything in that moment, he'd have instantly gotten everything he wanted.

>Thanos
Good fucking question. Do we know how infamous Thanos really is? He's one of Xandar's most wanted, but can the same be said for the rest of the galaxy? I know he was going around destroying half of every planet, but is everyone truly aware of that?

Thanos was working with the Kree. Carol and the Skrulls were going in the completely opposite direction.

Space is big man.

Alternate answer:
Maybe Thanos was waiting for Carol to be out of town before he made a move for the stones. Certainly would explain why he waited so long to actually get off his chair.

>Good fucking question. Do we know how infamous Thanos really is? He's one of Xandar's most wanted, but can the same be said for the rest of the galaxy? I know he was going around destroying half of every planet, but is everyone truly aware of that?
The Kree and the Nova Empire were never even friendly. Carol probably cares fuck all about Xandarian culture.

Every time one of you posts like this it just makes everyone who disagrees with you more sure that they're correct to disagree due to your extreme idiocy and failure to be able to parse out simple posts.

Did you not see the movie? She was helping the Skrull refugees find a new home and told Fury not to use the cosmic beeper unless it was a real emergency.

She's also apparently beholden to flight time. The post-credits scene seems to indicate that she couldn't instantaneously transmit back to Earth just because Fury beeped her. The Avengers had been tallying the death toll and fiddling with the batteries on the beeper for a while.

In terms of raw power. Thanos is cosmic Batman, he's not gonna pick a fight he knows he's gonna lose until he's got all the goobers and macguffins loaded up in his space utility belt.

Also, Thanos has super-genius intelligence on a cosmic level. Carol might be able to match his indomitable will, but she can't outsmart him.

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>You don't get it dude, space is big, and she was like too far away, but like she can be reached by a fucking phone.
How can you defend this then prete d you aren't retarded?

>CM flying around looking for planets for the Skrulls
>Sees half a planet
>"Welp, that's not going to work."
>Flies off

Sexist pig.

He’s thinning life, just like on an apple tree.

So Thanos will win again? Sexist!

Maybe because he is and they only said Carol was just to hype her up?

>through out the known universe
Do you know how many galaxies are in the known universe? 200 billion. Do you know how many stars are in ours alone? 250 million. You act like you get that "space is big" but everything you're saying reinforces the idea that you do not. Thanos in all his life before the snap could not have possibly made a dent anywhere near he did when he snapped half the universe's population. It is in fact almost certain that there are entire galaxies where nobody had ever heard of Thanos.

It took her weeks to reach Earth after the snappening. Every other event was resolved in days.

Imagine rubbing your dick from the sides, their mouth is made for side dicking.

Can't tell if you're serious or if it's sarcasm

That's what Thanos does on the Sanctuary II when he gets bored.

What is the Florida man of space?

Ross's response to aliens attacking New York and making off with Stark and Peter was basically "Yeah that's interesting and all but I'm not letting Cap act like I don't have the biggest dick in the room. Arrest them Rhodes." and then Rhodey told him to fuck off and that was the end of that.

He probably regretted this when half the people in UN started turning to dust, hopefully him being one of them, but it was too late by then.

The problem is Wakanda/BP got teased in in AoU marvel took the time to get us aware with BP. The underlying problem is that we've seen the cosmic side of marvel function without her, now that we're told she exists and is really powerful with nothing hinting towards her existence.

the fact Fury had a pager to contact her this whole time just makes it more unbelievable/stupid

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I bet we'll find out in four weeks.

>cosmic side of marvel
>As if there's an "Earth half" and a "space half"
How are you still having trouble with this? Are you actually saying you think the universe is so small that Captain Marvel had to have run into the Guardians of the Galaxy or Nova Prime? Even when the movie specifically shows her looking for a world for the Skrulls far away from Kree aggression?

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We saw Fury in Age of Ultron, saving people from the flying city, did he look worried? Did he look like a guy who was panicking enough that he needs to bring in his super secret cosmic weapon from God knows where in space?

lot of the time MCU finds a way to sneak in a little easter egg hinting at their existence
but it's very obvious Carol never existed conceptually in the MCU before Infinity War, which is fine but it would have just been neat to see

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yes.
before they got back into contact with JARVIS, they all thought Ultron could nuke them at any time. and he was seconds away from destroying the entire planet in the climax. maybe it'd be pointless to call her because she won't be able to get to the Earth in time, but this is the exact reason why Fury needed to contact her already. he's just waiting for the Earth to be destroyed before calling her if not by Ultron by whatever comes next.

>through out the known universe
That's 62 million light years across, big brain. How would they even communicate across such large distances?

No, the injustice franchise is about who can write the dumbest yet most entertaining way to keep it going.

How new to space opera are you?

>just turn your brain OFF!!!
Why do you care about Carol's whereabouts again?

Fury used the pager off camera and then got on with it instead of doing nothing and waiting for backup. But everything worked out before the message could travel all that way and before she could travel all those lightyears back to earth, so once it was over he again paged her saying cancel that, took care of it. This isn't exactly hard to fathom, especially when it's shown that the Avengers crew has set up the pager to keep sending the signal out with fancy gadgets measuring it and the power source being switched, all before she had time to get back to Earth.

>Are you actually saying you think the universe is so small that Captain Marvel had to have run into the Guardians of the Galaxy or Nova Prime?

WHEN THE FIRST VILLAIN FOR GotG WAS A FUCKING KREE WITH AN INFINITY GEM YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO NAME DROP MAR'VELL OR SOME SHIT. FUCK IN THE SAME MOVIE WE GOT HOWARD THE DUCK AND AND COSMO THE FUCKING DOG. WE KNEW KEVIN WAS PREPPING HER JUST AS LONG AS BLACK PANTHER AND WE HAD BOTH THOR 3 AND 2 GUARDIAN MOVIES TO AT LEAST NAME DROP HER THE SAME WAY AoU NAMED DROPPED WAKANDA. HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT? IT WOULD MADE THIS A BIT MORE PALATABLE FOR THE CLOSING ARC OF A DECADE AND A HALF MOVIE FRANCHISE TO FEATURE A FLYING BRICK THAT NO ONE IN THE UNIVERSE BUT FURY KNEW ABOUT TO SAVE THE FUCKING UNIVERSE.

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Dude calm down, I think the MCU has warped your brain. No movie is owed foreshadowing and teases. Guardians of the Galaxy didn't even get any, it just arrived and used a couple of characters that had been established for a different purpose, like Captain Marvel did. There are a ton of ways to foreshadow BP and Steven Strange, they've been on Earth the whole time.

Because the writers didn't think that far ahead

The Kree are an evil, aggressive empire. The Skrulls refused to surrender control to them, so the Kree destroyed their home world and are now trying to wipe out the survivors.

I AM CALM, I'M JUST TYPING IN CAPS LOCK TO EMPHASIS ME ISSUE WITH THE MCU LORE.

>WHEN THE FIRST VILLAIN FOR GotG WAS A FUCKING KREE WITH AN INFINITY GEM YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO NAME DROP MAR'VELL
Why? Why would any of the characters in GotG namedrop a Kree scientist who defected and hid on earth?
You're one of those retards who actually think this is going to end with Carol beating up Thanos, aren't you? I bet you were pissing yourself with fear a few years ago imagining AoU was going to end with Black Widow beating Ultron with Mjolnir.

This can honestly be seen as a kind of alternate history version of the comic conflict. In the comics, the peaceful, much more well-established Skrulls encounter the Kree on their planet. In the MCU, the warlike, much more well-established Kree encounter the Skrulls on their planet. In both stories, the Kree get irrationally booty-blasted and try to annihilate the Skrulls who wanted no conflict, the difference being, the much more technologically powerful comic Skrulls can mount defense with better effectiveness, and engage the Kree in a centuries-long war. In the universe where the Kree are more powerful, they blow up the Skrull homeworld, and hound the survivors across the galaxy, while the Skrulls fight for survival. Nothing's changed except the power balance at the start, both races basically act in-character in both versions.

How did Mar-Vell get the tesseract after Howard Stark recovered it in Captain America

High-level security clearance for her project working with it, most likely.

Hired HYDRA and had them set Winder Soldier's sight on the Starks which led to their assassination.

>it's stupid on purpose

Well, the pager reaches apx 3 galaxies away, which if you discount dwarf galaxies, puts her potentially out of the local cluster. However, she also arrived very quickly, so who knows.

Travel time, and all the incidents she might've helped with being done in the course of a day.

It would've been funny if one of the end credits scene was a retcon of Fury hitting the pager during the chitauri invasion, and then her showing up a week later and immediately leaving again because it was all good.

But OP the Guardians are in space and they didn't hear about it until Thor told them. Captain Marvel just hasn't run into Thor yet.

Mar-Vell took a major government secret and fucked off with it into space on a kree ship left it there and that's it. I'm not saying it's not possible but it's kinda dumb.

SHIELD should have been on her ass as well as the Kree the moment it went missing

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Didn't they think the Tesseract was in the ship? somebody said in the movie that they thought the core was in the ship's engine.

the events of infinity war basically happen over a ~48-72 hour period

> thanos sacks xandar, shits on the asgardians
> banner lands on earth, barely has time to explain, black order in hot pursuit
> they're stuck flying to titan
> thanos gets the remaining stones, snaps

for all we know, she's a few hours behind everybody or on the other side of the galaxy

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the cube was howard's pet project, he died in 1991, it probably got lost in the regime change

Mar-vell died in 1989.

They thought the experimental flight that blew up was powered directly by the cube, so after that "accident" they had nothing to look for. Of course they wouldn't expect their chief scientist to actually be an alien lying to them, with an invisible base in orbit that beams the power down to the experimental craft.

Fury wasn't aware of the stakes. The whole Infinity War movie was the heroes being caught with their pants down, totally unprepared for a fight. He saw another invasion happening and it occurred within a day or so, with multiple ships seemingly being repelled at different times.

>The Milky Way is fucking huge, the universe is even bigger there were other assholes that was as big or bigger threat than Thanos somewhere that needed shooting.
She made a pager with spare parts that can cross entire galaxies in seconds.
I think space Hulu or space CNN would have better quality, so yeah, it's a plothole she didn't knew beforehanded.

Pagers use simple signals to send simple messages. Compared to sending images fast through the cosmos it's morse code. And short morse code would be a fuckload more reliable to send, than pictures and sound.

>Oh shit, aliens are attacking us and we're about to nuke NY, should I call her? ...nah
>Oh shit, aliens are attacking us, again, and London is about to get nuked, should I call her?...han
>Oh shit, Hydra is back and running everything, I almost got killed and 3 helicarriers are about to kill 25 million people instantaneously, should I call her?...nah
>Oh shit, an IA with daddy issues is about to drop a city on Earth causing an extinction level event, should I call her?...nah
>Oh shit, another fucking space ship on NY and now Tony and other heroes have dissapeared, should I call her?...nah
>Fuck, I'm stuck in a traffic jam on NY, better call her

Someone above 3 years old actually wrote this.
The fact that you can make a pager send a signal several trillion faster thant he speed of light to reach any part of the universe in a matter of seconds would be enough to have space hulu and CNN in a couple of galaxies

>Implying Thanos wasn't a crazy fucker when his main life goal was fucking the grim reaper

Why was Mar-vell so determined to destroy the cubeless engine before she died?

How did the Skrulls know to check Carol's brain to figure out where to look for the cube?

Why were the Skrulls so dedicated to killing Carol before asking for her help to figure out the code in the black box?

Why did Yon-Rogg brainwash Carol into thinking she was a kree and keep restricting her when they could have used her as a straight up weapon to get rid of the skrulls in the first place?

Why did the skrulls flipflop from capable opposing force to helpless refugees in the second half?

>in a matter of seconds
Where have we even been shown this? From what we've seen Fury sent a message on the pager right before everyone got dusted, then the remaining avengers collected themselves and got back to NYC, found the pager and spent time hooking it up to a power-source, getting energy readings and waiting to see what it'd do. Oh and they had time to label Ant-Man as lost in a database because he disappeared in the snap and nobody could find him, before he apparently got himself out of the quantum zone and showed up back at the HQ. For all we know it took months for the message to reach her.

They were introduced as bad guys in guardians of the Galaxy. This is just the logical conclusion reached by writers that saw GotG but never read a comic in their lives.

Weren't the Kree considered evil in comics from the late 60's up to the mid 80s when they went to war with the Skrulls, and the Avengers sided with the Kree in that? So they were considered pseudo-not evil after that point?

>Why was Mar-vell so determined to destroy the cubeless engine before she died?
She likely didn't want them turning it into a weapon.
>How did the Skrulls know to check Carol's brain to figure out where to look for the cube?
She's an associate of Mar-Vell. Else, she is an associate of Yon and they stumbled upon Marvell in her memories.
>Why were the Skrulls so dedicated to killing Carol before asking for her help to figure out the code in the black box?
Because she murdered like 20 of them shortly before?
>Why did Yon-Rogg brainwash Carol into thinking she was a kree and keep restricting her when they could have used her as a straight up weapon to get rid of the skrulls in the first place?
He was trying to get her to drop emotions before using her powers. It's also possible that they didn't want her using her powers.
>Why did the skrulls flipflop from capable opposing force to helpless refugees in the second half?
All the soldiers were dead. It was literally just the leader left.

If she didn't destroy the engine the Kree would obviously study/glance at it and realise the cube was elsewhere, instead of assuming it destroyed. How is that not obvious for you?

The Skrulls probably found out the Kree had picked up an alien at the same time as they killed the engine-builder, from checking the planet-operative's brain, the same way they got his code. At first they thought Carol was an asshole killer just like all the other Krees and so wanted the threat gone after they'd found the planet/location of the secret project, they only stopped believing this when she went to visit her friend and then they came clean.

They restricted her and brainwashed her because they wanted a weapon they could control. Of course they wouldn't want the most powerful thing they've ever seen to have a mind of its own and possibly reject a mission or go rogue.

When did they flipflop? They got their asses handed to them on the planet and only had a chance because of the element of surprise and superior numbers, on the ship she fucked them all up, and then on Earth they kept getting taken out by a car crash etc.

Would make more sense if Mar-Vel was the one who actually made Bucky's arm and provided useful cryogenic technology. Or HYDRA had SHIELD operatives working with her while also shipping off some of her technological secrets over to Siberia for their own experimentation.

You can do a lot with a Kree scientist working on Earth in the 90s explain a few things in the universe. There is no telling how long she has been there and how much alien science HYDRA got from her being there.

Yes. I couldn't help but find it underwhelming in between IW and EG. Moreso because they made the Skrulls the 'good guys' and basically quashed any hopes of a Secret Invasion film arc.

>They restricted her and brainwashed her because they wanted a weapon they could control

They basically did. They could have told her to unload on an entire skrull civilization at this point and she would have done it with no hesitation

He also had no one else to call at that point. From his point of view
>Tony, Spider-Man, and Strange were abducted.
>Cap, Falcon, Romanoff, and Bucky were gone with no means of contact.
>Vision and Wanda were gone with no means of contact.
>War Machine was court martialed and fucked off to Africa.
>Aliens were currently blowing up parts of Africa

Barton and Ant-Man were the only super people left on Earth Fury could potentially find and aliens blowing up chunks of cities and easily stopping or possibly killing Tony meant they were not really a good choice here. Once people started dusting off everywhere across the city shit had officially hit the fan and he needed to call Carol.

>and basically quashed any hopes of a Secret Invasion film arc.
They've already said that there's more evil sections of Skrull society.

>snap affected the Kree way more than the Skrulls, because they had more people/social structure to lose compared to a bunch of refugees hiding on different planets with little social structure to lose
>now the Skrull factions who are out for revenge decide to take their chance
>while the chaos is still going on they start to infiltrate societies to make them turn against the Kree, either taking the place of snapped people or abducting them
>they infiltrate Earth either to get them to join the war against the Kree, or because they think Earth is a nice little out-of-the-way place to start off their own new empire at
There's your Secret Invasion set-up.

Yeah that's what I was confused about too. Secret invasion really wasn't one of my favourite story lines so I wouldn't mind it if they didn't do it, but I wasn't sure if they were going to twist it or not again.
That actually could work. I could see Talos coming back as the bad guy after his family was dusted. Or maybe even coming to earth warning them of a kree invasion as the good guy.

that's what i mean
> she had it in 89, howard knew about it.
> shield probably looks for it due to howard
> howard dies, new shield bosses, hydra/pierce? have other priorities and don't care about it
> fury gets it back at the end of captain marvel 6 years later
> fury revives it as his pet project

Secret invasion was complete and utter fucking garbage. THAT is the story that skrulls not exclusively being bad guys makes you sad you can't have?

are skrull capable of turning into people they've never met?

she was literally shoved in last second for small chump change for Disney.

Better question if Agents of Shield is canon why didn't Captain Marvel stop the Kree at any point last season?

>Agents of Non Canon
There's your answer

I think it was stated in the movie that they needed to see the person before transforming.

The movie tells a different story

Because there not enought resources to satisfy ambitions of star empires.
If they own dozen planets - they wants hundred.
If they own hundred - they wants thousand.

And halfing the population of star empire would certainly hold back its expansion

He used to have Harold. Then they brought Harold back for one story so they could kill him. Now yeah I guess Alfred does it.

>there were other assholes that was as big or bigger threat than Thanos somewhere that needed shooting

are there?

this. it's poochie

We're sure she never finished w B because Ronan and Korath were things in GotG

>unless it was a real emergency

So stuff that didn't count:
1. Chitauri led by a fucking space god trying to conquer the Earth
2. Dark elf trying to ...do something with the Earth with a fuckass yuge ship
3. Sentient robot about to enact an Extinction-Level-Event by dropping a chunk of Earth on Earth
4. The boss of invasion #1 comes to finish the job

I'm guessing in comic history, it's because we've had Kree heroes (Mar-vell) and Skrull bad guys (Klrt)

in that case, have Shuri build the armor.

She's a WOMAN and BLACK so double-superrrrrrrrrrrrr

>stuff happened off-camera blah blah blah

you would have gone for so many no-prizes back in the day...

before you were born

>Shit like this is literally standard fare in comic books, and has always been for dozens of years, why the fuck is everyone getting super fucking critical of plot contrivances when it comes to Captain Marvel?
Why are you pretending that people getting super fucking critical of plot contrivances is unique when it comes to Captain Marvel?
Is it because you're legitimately too fucking stupid to remember the millions of threads picking over Thanos's nonsensical motivations from Infinity War, or the millions of other things that didn't make sense in every other movie that we've had exhaustive threads picking over?
The only difference here is you, getting triggered that people are talking shit about your fucking waifu.
Off yourself, moron

Mar-Vell was sent by the Kree to destroy the Earth. He rebelled to become a hero on Earth instead and join the Avengers. The whole time he was active he was considered a traitor and enemy to the Kree.

This is a universe were people have access to light speed technology, teleporters and other crazy sci-fi shit. Not to mention, most of the stuff we’ve seen has happened in one or two galaxies, mostly. Ego was able to expand and seed parts of himself into countless worlds. Thanos has searched for the Infinity Stones for ages. The Kree, Skrull and Nova have a large influence upon the known MCU. The Collector, Knowhere and Asgard and the other Realms are well known in the cosmic side of things outside of Sakaar. Throw in Yondu’s old crew, those gold stuck up assholes from GotG2, and the GotG as well. To pretend that Captain Marvel has SOMEHOW not come across ANY of these assholes or gotten involved somehow is LUDICROUS. She was either hiding under a fucking rock or was in some other reality entirely as to NOT get involved in whatever cosmic shit has been going on.

>the MCU has light speed travel, cosmic beings that are basically gods, teleportation technology, inter dimensional wizards, space conquerors, reality warping rocks and fucking Ego all easily going around space and shit
>lol space is too big how would they contact each other or know about stuff
Get the fuck outta here. Other than Earth and Sakaar, most places in the MCU have SOME knowledge of shit going on in a cosmic scale. People know about shit like Celestials, Thanos, the Chitauri and the Kree. In places with advanced tech, news travel pretty fast.

>just shut your brain off and enjoy the pretty colors
Yikes!

But that is how the actual space program works.

they call it "the spaper".

>irrelevant character doesn't do anything

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Why do all the aliens speak english.

Carl builds a device in her own movie that lets Fury call her instantenously no matter where she is. If shew casn build it on 80s earth just like that you can bet your left nut that the rest of the unoverse that is already more advanced then earth can do it too.

because God/TheOneAboveAll/StanLeePrime speaks English

>something has exponential growth
>”let’s half it. That’ll slow it down!”
American education

All of those events lasted for mere hours before being resolved, and they all came without warning

I am pretty sure that if we ask Marvel they will answer us because there is no logical answer right now

Aw damn I forgot about Harold. I remember no mans land was the last story I really saw him in. I know he popped up in nu52 but I can't recall where or when. Didn't some writer screw him over for cheap drama?

Quill has been in space for longer than Carol and he couldn't tell who Gamora and her father were until the GotG movie happened. Thor has been fighting space battles for centuries and neither him or Odin ever seemingly bothered to face Thanos, assuming they knew about him (we know they can tell what an Infinity Stone is, but did Thor ever say anything about Thanos? I can't recall right now). There's nothing particularly unrealistic about other characters in space sharing the same ignorance or apparent unwillingness to fight the guy. Plus for all we know Endgame may have a few lines dedicated to the subject, if I'm nothing else I'm assuming Carol already witnessed the effects of the snap before reaching Earth

For Thor at least I'm pretty sure the Norse gods were confined to a handful of "realms" after Odin decided to not be a major galactic power. Most of those planets seemed pretty backwater.
Starlord was basicly a space redneck who likely stuck to the back alleys of the universe thanks to his groups isolation. The other ravengers almost certainly knew of thanos.

That being said it is weird we didn't hear more about thanos especially considering all we learn in infinity war.

Sure, they all have an explainable reasons, so does Carol is the point. From how CM presented the situation she went into space with the intent of rescuing Skrulls and find them a home away from the kree and their wars, she's supposedly sticking to a group just like how Odin was sticking to his nine realms. People try argue that Ronan should be her connection to Thanos, but the guy was a rogue that even other Kree were ignoring

>why didn't Fury call on her all those times ago

We saw that the pager needs to emit a constant signal and that it took Carol days/weeks before she returned. The pager also originally could send messages so there's probably that sort of feature too.

>Fury turns on the pager to signal Carol to come back
>few hours later the other heroes save the day
>Fury cancels the signal, sends her a message that things are fine now and apologizes for calling her

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You might think that it's a long way done to chemists but that's peanuts compared to space

Why is earth so low tech compared to the rest of the galaxy?

>this damage control
Show don't tell. In your case, you have to perform mental gymnastics on order to fill in the plot holes that Feige didn't bother with.

How fast can she fly in space?

fuck you I chuuckled

universal translator implants

these have been referenced in 2 movies now

>Show don't tell

The thing you're complaining about is literally something being shown and you demanding that it be explicitly told to you because your lizard brain doesn't understand it.

Nice reference, I also love Defenders of the Looniverse

In case of civilization losing half of its population would throw it into disarray and chaos.

Exponentialy growing empire loosing its footing - industrial and agricultural workers, crews of starfleet - would certanly lose mometum.

You are the reason Hollywood makes movies where they explain every detail to the point where normal people get annoyed at how they assume we're all retarded autists.

If it meant helping Banner, Ross would never do it.

So you think the writers assuming we'll riddle out that obviously Fury called her off-screen and then told her they actually don't need help, with no hints whatsoever to make us think this, is their intention? Obviously not. Fury never called her until Infinity War.

Yes it's stupid, even if there wasn't a crisis currently going on it would have been a lot smarter to call her over just to fill her in and give her better modern communication since clearly another crisis could happen at any time and waiting around for the Earth to be in-trouble again is dumb, but stretching your believability somewhat is kind of par for the course with this genre.

>are there?
no, no there really aren't.
even Galactus limits his feedings to the planets his heralds select. if we acknowledge the potential crossovers, then even the cybertronian war, the kree, and the shi'ari (or however you spell that X-men alien race) combined weren't even close to the potential level of threat that Thanos displayed.

hell, not even Darkseid from DC sought to kill half the universe.

i think i remember a scene of the nova coprs getting fucking genocided

Maybe Fury was really confident in the Avengers to repel the Chitauri?

isn't there a scene in the avengers where a plane falls out of the sky in the background implying the pilot got dusted?

It actually will, at least a little, because he halved the food supply as well.

Why didn’t any of gotg hear about it either? Especially since they have a vested interest in thanos and his exploits

It feels like Captain Marvel's movie should have focused on her being an incredibly destructive force with near Hulk levels of collateral damage, and a total lack of control.
That way, even if she prefers to do good, it would make sense for her to enter a self-imposed exile, and why Fury wouldn't call her back unless he thought the planet was truly utterly toast.

It's crazy how much Marvel stole from the Bible. Destroying 1/3 of mankind, Gomorrah...same with basically ripping off of myths like Thor.

if it's as far back as the bible, it's basically just the fabric of storytelling at that part, so multiuse you cannot steal it. like the word 'said'

this would have been neat

If she was that much of an open threat on Earth her existence would have been well known.

Imagine living life like this where you can watch things but don't discuss them and gatekeeping others from discussing them for fun.

Well no shit, but if they want to retcon her into being supremely important they need to either go all the way with it or not at all.
Even if going full man of steel wouldn't sit right with people, it's a go big or go home situation.