I don't like that they made Monica a Carol fangirl and I severely wished they waited for Kamala Khan for that.
I don't like that they made Monica a Carol fangirl and I severely wished they waited for Kamala Khan for that
Of course she is a Carol fangirl! She is a white girl! White women should never be opposed nor suspected of!
Eh, it means Monica will be annoyed at Carol when they meet
Because her hero fucked off for 20 years and her mom is now old or ded
All minority characters are basically interchangeable and there to big up the main liberal white woman character and talk about how great she is.
Did you not *watch* the film?
Yeah that was shit, I rather they not have involved Monica. Fucking up Mar-vell was enough. At least Genis and Phyla are too low on the radar for Marvel Studios for them to fuck up.
I hope so, Monica always was a bit of a hard ass even before Nextwave.
I think her having a personal relationship with Carol since infancy and looking up to her as an inspirational figure who she literally calls her family is entirely different from being a fangirl.
I don't LOVE tying her into Carol's orbit like that, but it's the kind of streamlining move that the MCU makes all the time, and the prospect of seeing Monica as a hero in a future movie when I never expected that at all is pretty exciting.
>Fucking up Mar-vell was enough
How they do my nigga? It can't be that bad. Please tell me it wasn't that bad
Mar-Vell got turned into an old Kree lady who was disguised as Dr. Wendy Lawson and she was on Earth with the tesseract because she wanted to helo some Skrull refugees escape the Kree. Carol meets up with her and at one point they get attacked by the Kree. Mar-Vell then gets killed by Yon-Rogg but Carol keeps memories of her and that's why she sees the Supreme Intelligence as Mar-Vell
Oh and she owned the Flerken which means Mar-Vell got turned into a old space cat lady, have fun
I hope she grows up cynical. Like, Carol comes down and she goes "We've had alien invasions and robot attacks, where the fuck were you?"
Monica doesn't work unless she has a chip on her shoulder.
>At least Genis and Phyla are too low on the radar for Marvel Studios for them to fuck up.
I don't knoooow, they are increasing the rate of characters they use
Shut your mouth, I said they are too unimportant and there's other Kree they can mess with.
Was a good movie though. People are gonna nitpick because of whatever they want, but they could have done a WHOLE lot worse.
>This whole post
Good God why would they do this
Because Mar-Vell is a man and can’t have that involved in Carol’s origin in a positive position despite the fact that it would have made for a great parallel against Yon-Rogg
Is this the part of the thread where people pretend to give two shits about Mar-Vell, a character that has likely been dead for longer they've been alive?
a BORING character-
Yeah, as long as it gives them a reason to bitch, they'll pretend.
It says something when the only positive thing anyone can say about the character is that he died
>I no like character so you REALLY NO LIKE HIM
Will this be the defense for everything I hold dear to me?
Did they at least handle the Skrull Invasion with dignity? How'd they figure out the Skrulls were replacing peoples anyway?
Initially it was from the age old ‘I heard something that so and so wouldn’t say’ but then it turns out the Skrull are just misunderstood and are just refugees trying to get the warp drive engine so they can find a home away from the Kree tyranny so they can live in peace
>At least Genis and Phyla are too low on the radar for Marvel Studios for them to fuck up.
Oh you think so? They're in more danger now than ever, now that Mar-Vell's been introduced. And introduced as pretty old too, so plenty of time for her to have had a life and even a family before being stationed on Earth. Either or both of them could show up twenty years later all grown up in the next Guardians of the Galaxy film or Captain Marvel sequel, and it wouldn't even be difficult. They could make Genis Carol's sidekick if they wanted. Or even her next villain. It would be easy.
>He died you can't like him
That is a pretty dumb excuse, I cared about the characters because I read his comics, I also encountered him while reading old Avengers comics, a mini about his time with the Kree that came out in the 90's I believe, and there is a fucking mini in Secret Invasion dedicated to Skrull Mar-Vell who thought he was the real Mar-Vell.
Shitty bait but I can believe someone is this retarded.
>the Skrull are just misunderstood
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Because Mar-Vell is a man and can’t have that involved in Carol’s origin in a positive position
That's the thing, I know that before this movie people were saying that Carol couldn't be her own character if Mar-Vell was her mentor (which he never was) and if she got her Kree DNA from him (well technically the Psyche-Magnitron did it by copying Marv's DNA, still not sure how that happened).
Yet in this movie they made Yon-Rogg her mentor and she got her Kree physiology from his freaking blood and it just makes it even creepier especially when he said "It's my blood and it courses through her veins" yuck.
You can't have a strong independent woman if she has a positive relationship with a male figure.
The worst thing is that since Yon-Rogg is played by Jude Law fangirls still like him and want him to be redeemed, it's pretty gross.
She does have a positive relationship with a male figure, Fury.
He hits a button and she comes rocketing across the galaxy to help.
I was talking specifically about Mar-Vell's role and how it was given to Yon-Rogg and perverted.
I did like her and Fury though.
I would have rather have Monica be already an adult or be absent in this movie. Also her powers prevent her from aging right? Not like it matters now anyway.
I think there's just a point where they know they need to be sure to intertwine these characters as soon as they can at some points so it doesn't feel like they come out of -NOWHERE- if they decide to use them as more than a little side character in another movie.
Sort of how I feel with Miles' uncle Aaron mentioning him in Spiderman.
>yfw they had Monica call Carol "Auntie Carol"
Fuck, I miss EMH.
ah fuck, i didn't even think about that.
I miss the brown jacket
It made for a better contrast with her white costume underneath
I don't get the FTL warp engine shit since I thought the Kree were already using that in the movie with the octagon shit.
How long until that faggot teenager skrull show up as the son of "lady Mar-Vell" and some random skrull.
I was utterly convinced Maria'd die to give her some actual motivation in the sequel. Convincing you're mum to go on the mission that gets her killed would've been a solid foundation to build stoic self-loathing post-NextWave Monica off of.
It'd also give her a reason to be angry at Carol specifically. Which'd free up the fangirl slot for Kamala.
BTW I a PISSED as FUCK that she didn't keep Carol's jacket. But if they mention that why she got her own by the sequel I'll forgive it.
I'm not gonna doubt that you've read the comics.
I'm just gonna doubt that you ever actually liked Mar-vell.
'Cuz the movie's characterization was on-fucking point to everything that makes him great.
Shocking truth: "Penis" is not one of them.
TEDDEH
Wait, Goku is anti-Israle?
I was more so speaking of Kree who had a role in shaping Carol. Her dynamic with Fury was good but can’t really say he had an influence on who she is
For the Kree it was basically to stop it from falling into the Skrull’s hands but at the same time, the fact that it was powered by an Infinity Stone, I’d imagine that it puts anything they could create on their own to shame
>*spirit bomb nasheed intensifies*