Has there ever been a serious battle with a toonforce user? Like what if Mask went up against Darkseid?
Has there ever been a serious battle with a toonforce user? Like what if Mask went up against Darkseid?
James Lee
Connor Carter
Bumpo
Jaxon Wright
Captain Carrot was in Final Crisis.
John Morales
I would seriously read a Popeye vs. The Incredible Hulk comic. Just as long as they kept Popeye in his original art style.
Isaac Sanders
Would be pointless. The whole point of toonforce is that the reality itself bends around the main character for comedic effect, no exceptions. A serious character would never win against a cartoon character.
The simplest example of "toonforce in a serious environment" would probably be One Punch Man. No matter how great you are, you will never defeat him because that's the joke.
Grayson Sanchez
The crazy british mutant from marvel fought a killer robot and lost
Brody Stewart
>Would be pointless. The whole point of toonforce is that the reality itself bends around the main character for comedic effect, no exceptions
What if the situations funniest outcome is the character in question losing?
Christopher Reed
He still won't be dead or hurt in any serious (there's the keyword) way. I guess you can call it a victory, but if we assume that the serious character is out for blood, then he won't ever win.
Ethan Barnes
Batman vs Elmer Fudd kind of counts
Adrian Edwards
>B-B-B-BUT MUH GOKUA
>MUH SUPAMIN
John Walker
Wouldn't Mask vs Lobo qualify? Or is Lobo himself too cartoon-like?
Andrew Roberts
Lobo is 90s edge cartoon force.
Luis Flores
how strong is aunt grandma? she's just an ordinary human but because of rage she can beat up a toonforce character (even if she does get beat up in the process).
Daniel Russell
>serious battle
>toonforce user
That's not how that works
Liam Davis
I don't think that counts as toonforce. He was a reality manipulator who was also completely bonkers, like Joker that one time.
Isaiah Robinson
But that means the toonforce character can never kill if it´s universe bends that way (like say tom and jerry).
And if you automatically give any toon toonforce, why won´t serious characters get acess to an edgeforce which has the effect of making injuries fatal? Seems arbitrary.
Even if you don´t consider any of that, you could also do it like "who killed roger rabbit" or "last action hero" did, which was to make toons vulnerable in the real world, so in other words dependent on the universe they are in.
Jacob Jackson
Mxylplyx
Chase Martin
*Myxysptlk?
Jaxon Jones
Comic MASK isn't really Toonforce, it's straight up magic. Movie/cartoon MASK on the other hand is.
>But that means the toonforce character can never kill if it´s universe bends that way (like say tom and jerry).
Yeah, that's kind of the point. Toonforce isn't there to destroy evil, it's to humiliate evil to the point where it simply self-destructs or quits altogether.
>And if you automatically give any toon toonforce, why won´t serious characters get acess to an edgeforce which has the effect of making injuries fatal?
Because that's more or less Rule of Cool or Rule of Drama, and both are trumped by Rule of Funny. There's nothing less cool than beating up a clown, and there's nothing that breaks drama more than applying it to a clown.
Leo White
I´m tempted to say that´s the dumbest reason you could come up with, but i´m not holding my breath.
Rule of Funny is trumped all the time by the other two (if you said rule of status quo you might have had a point), like in the fact than in damn near every horror film the funny guy dies first.
Dark humor is a thing, and clowns being evil or dramatic like the joker is probably more common than them being funny and cheerful by this point.
Mason Sanchez
Does Mr Miracle from justice league action count?
Adam Gonzalez
*Final Countdown plays*
Robert Wilson
God that was such a good comic.
I don't think it counts though. It was played straight.
Carter Bell
>like in the fact than in damn near every horror film the funny guy dies first.
That's not rule of funny, user. Rule of Funny isn't just a guy making jokes, it is literally breaking the world around you for the sake of a joke. And it is because of that joke that the other rules can't really compete with it.
In your example, Rule of Funny would the horror movie monster suddenly turning around and chase a stick the funny guy throws at it, or something of that nature.
>Dark humor is a thing, and clowns being evil or dramatic like the joker is probably more common than them being funny and cheerful by this point
I do admit my analogy was a bit shit, but that wasn't really the point. I wasn't talking about clowns specifically, I was talking about how their mere existence makes any scene less serious and turns anything on the receiving end into the punchline, giving them the advantage.
Easton Bennett
I don´t see why rule of funny inherently trumps the other two unless the author wills it so. This is literally what we are arguing here:
Funny things happen instead of dramatic or cool things because I/you like funny things more.
Yes it´s obvious the funny guy being killed in horror movies is not an example of rule of funny. It´s an example of the rule of funny NOT being applied, and being superceeded by rule of drama because of the kind of story that´s taking place. It´s the author´s criteria, not the character´s.
Joshua Martinez
>Serious battle against a toonforce user
Not exactly Yea Forums but that’s Pretty much just Bobobo innit?
Dylan Jenkins
pretty much bobobo-bo-bobobo's fighting system was to use weaponized toonforce to confuse your opponent until they just couldn't take it anymore and gave into the insanity before being pummeled
Henry Green
>didn't read the manga
he has fought people he couldn't one shot faggot
Cooper Sanders
sounds like it jumped the shark then
Gavin Bennett
>serious
>toonforce
At what age did you discover you were autistic?
Hunter Ross
The reason a lot of the stronger guys don’t go down in one punch is because Saitama is still holding back against them. Boros? Garou? Saitama held back against them. They straight up state this in the anime, manga and web comic. He can still one shot them, he just doesn’t do it immediately.
Ryan Fisher
>Ctrl+F
>No Plastic Man
Dominic Hughes
Mxysptlk and Bat-Mite has their multiverse destroying fight and they were pretty serious about until the end, where they just go “nice one, see you next Tuesday?”.
Cameron Collins
By definition, no there has not been a serious battle with a toonforce user
That literally defeats the purpose of toonforce
Christian Torres
No he hasn't. The finishing blow on Boros was literally called "Serious Punch" implying all the other ones hadn't been serious.
He has encountered people who didn't die when he deliberately gave them limp wristed love taps, he's never fought anyone who could stand up to him punching him like he means it.
Tyler Reyes
It was, wasn't it? I need to read that again.
Joshua Campbell
A) that doesn't go agianst the toonforce is unbeatable argument
B) both those times he was holding back and could have ended it in one punch, he had a personal reason to hold back each time.
Andrew Jenkins
>Saw it in the LCS
>Decided against it
>See it being talked about on here
>Hear how amazing it is
>Read a few pages, love it
>Head back to LCS
>It's gone
I fucking missed out when the going was hot and that fucking kills me
Levi Nelson
Mad Jim Jaspers (reality warper with a taste for Alice toon force) vs The Fury (omni-adaptable killing machine)?
Benjamin Martin
I present you the defeater of the undefeatable Saitama: The Spot.
Gavin Gutierrez
Mask's toonforce always unnerved me.
Adrian Smith
All of the people here saying toonforce is exclusively funny never read the original Mask. Gore and horror toonforce is a better take, anyway
Michael Price
imagine if you fucked a girl and your dick went back inside of you. haha.