I've read Spidey comics up until OMD, and am a bit hesitant to move forward after that clusterfuck. What stories from the BND era are good/worth reading? The big ones I see mentioned a lot are Snow, New Ways to Die, Unscheduled Stop, #600, and Gauntlet/Grim Hunt.
I've read Spidey comics up until OMD, and am a bit hesitant to move forward after that clusterfuck...
Spider-Man: Fever mini if you want some great psychodelic art.
The anti-venom and spider island stuff was pretty good.
Out of continuity wise, Renew you Vows I consider to be good.
Nothing in continuity wise except maybe the current spencer run which may be working towards fixing OMD(jury's still out though) or maybe that Superior Spider-man thing where Ock took over as spiderman. Don't compromise your morals and don't support a satanic spider-man.
>Snow
Yeah, Snow is pretty good. It's the best "a bunch of random hobos defeats an ancient Mayan god" story I've ever seen.
>New Ways to Die
It was the first arc in a while to not be complete filler and actually feature something with lasting consequences. That's why people remember it. Of course, like most BND, it's still mostly just clueless flinging shit at the wall to see what sticks. Osborn here is still in his Green Goblin persona, even though Dark Reign is just around the corner at this point. He has a rather generic confrontation with Peter with a generic "IS PETER FINALLY GOING TO KILL OSBORN??????????????????" pseudo-intrigue. There's also Anti-Venom, who later fucked off into nowhere and only appeared in four arcs total, counting this. There's a nice moment where the Venom symbiote refuses to kill Eddie. Mac Gargan gets a pretty cool Venom/Scorpion suit. I wish they'd keep it even after he stopped being Venom, but of course, good things don't last.
>Unscheduled Stop
Yeah, people say it's one of the best Shocker stories or something, although I can't really remember much about it.
There's also that one Spot story. It's somewhere in the 570s or 580s I think.
>#600
Don't remember much other than that it's centered on Octopus. Probably worth reading.
>Gauntlet
Hit or miss. Some villains are reimagined in great ways (Rhino, Sandman). Some are pretty questionable, like Lizard. Some are downright bad, like Vulture (apparently the original Vulture wasn't edgy enough so they designed a CRAAWLING IN MY SKIIIN red Vulture who would wear shades and spit acid; this abomination later was rightfully offed by Punisher).
>Grim Hunt
It's praised because it superficially imitates Kraven's Last Hunt. Yes, I know they got DeMatteis himself to write some of it, it still doesn't change the fact. It's a random and pointless resurrection for the sake of it.
There's also Origin of the Species, an average arc that kinda concludes Brand New Day.
>>Gauntlet
>Hit or miss
So I thought about just reading the 'best bits' but a lot of people seemed really insistent that it's best read as a whole and one overarcing story.
>DeMatteis himself to write some of it,
Not surprising considering DeMatteis *loved* referencing Last Hunt whenever possible throughout the 90s.
Definitely read the issue wher Flash goes to war and gets his legs blown off. #574.
Honestly, some parts are good, but Peter Parker/Spider-Man himself always feels very off during the BND/Slott era. Only time during the BND/Slott era I felt he was actually Spider-Man was when Stern and Conway was writing him, and Zdarsky from when JJJ learns Peter's identity onwards.
>when Stern and Conway was writing him
Wait when was this?
Stern wrote a sequel to his Juggernaut story, somewhere during the run. Conway wrote I think a fill-in arc somewhere in 2015 or something? It was one of those point one issues or something like that. They're not as good as their old work on Spider-Man but to me they felt more like Spider-Man than other writers' attempt to make Spider-Man like a complete sadsack.
bump
>Zdarsky from when JJJ learns Peter's identity onwards.
Unironically think it's one of the character's best runs, honestly. Though I'm not sure if that's just since we haven't had one as good as it in so long that it feels harder to properly compare.
It's so bizarre to see the jump in quality from before the interview issue to after. Has there ever been something comparable to that?
I wonder if it was mainly just because Zdarsky didn't want to lead in with the interview and its bombshell, so he just dicked around for a couple issues to let people settle in before starting the actual story he wanted to tell.
Do you think it would be a good idea to tell people to just start with that issue? Is there too much plot-relevant stuff in the first 6 issues?
I'm not sure, honestly. You get stuff like Peter's sister and such with those first issues, but the real full-on plot doesn't kick in until the interview.
I'd say to tell people to start with the first issues, and if they can't really stomach them, skip to the interview one and go from there. Personally I didn't find them too bad, but I've seen other people really hate them so that might just be me.
Read American Son
Also Shed
Just read Marvel Adventures Spider-Man and pretend 616 no longer exists.
This
This.
The Superior Foes of Spider-Man