So which one is the superior show?

The original. A lot of it was bad, but when it was good, it was really good. It had the higher highs.

Three Caballeros

The comics. Read the comics.

1987 one tried, the 2017 one is eh at best.
This, oh so much this.

I also like the comics.

Lol my old man took one look at the new version and said, "who is that girl why is she doing things? I don't like that"

Modern Ducktales has the superior Webby. You CANNOT look at the original cutesy wutesy thing from the 1987 version and tell me she is good in any way. I don't care how obsessed you are with hating SJWs.

This DuckTales reminds me a lot of 2012 TMNT:
- They both are a love letter to their numerous source materials (cartoon, comics, games) while improving a lot of their flaws and being different enough that they are not seen as a "replacement" to the old show.
- They both clearly improve the cinematography and have more consistent animation.
- The writing is overall better and they allow the show have some genuinely good emotional moments. That said, they also both sometimes overdo it in both the "wacky" and "pathos" department and can lose themselves in convoluted character dynamics while trying to convey more grounded storylines.

It's also difficult to judge the old shows by today's standards because they set a lot of said standards that 2 decades of animation tried to surpass. Both the old DT and TMNT were good shows for their time and can still be enjoyed today, but the reboots are objectively better shows.

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Not really a good comparison because 2012 TMNT didn't live under the shadow of the 80s Turtles. It lived under the shadow of the 2003 cartoon.

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New one is trash.

He's not in every single episode, no, but he's in a lot of them.

I dunno, they're both good. It's like asking "Which is better, megaman 2 or megaman 3?"

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By using a human turned rat Splinter instead of a rat turned humanoid Splinter, the 2012 version was mostly first set up to be compared to the far more well known 80s Turtles cartoon.

Did it really? I'm a fan of the 2003 TMNT and basically everytime it was brought up while discussing the 2012 version everybody was always like "yeah, it was cute I guess" then pretended like it didn't happen, like it was just a wrinkle between the original one and the 2012.

Compare the number of fanservice made in 2012 to both shows and you'll see in which shadow it was living in. I'm not pissed that 2003 didn't appear in the crossover episodes or anything...

The intention of the writers is irrelevant. People compared it to 2003's TMNT non stop. Especially here in Yea Forums.

This.

>far more well known
And yet everyone used the superior 2003 series as a baseline when judging the 2012 series.

Both correct

My perception of the threads about TMNT 2012 on Yea Forums are different, and when the 2003 version was even brought up at all, it aligns more with what wrote.

>I'm a fan of the 2003 TMNT and basically everytime it was brought up while discussing the 2012 version everybody was always like "yeah, it was cute I guess" then pretended like it didn't happen, like it was just a wrinkle between the original one and the 2012.
Nigger what the fuck are you on about. 2003 turtles is literally the only one ever seriously discussed here. The ‘87 show is like the old Ducktales show in that it’s only ever brought up in context to a reboot because it’s not notable to talk about on it’s own.

What he wrote is bullshit tho

In the second episode of S1 he sets his house boat on fire in Scrooge's pool while Mrs. Beakley calmly sips tea and watches it through the window.

Nobody liked or wanted Webby in the original, it was just one of those child characters that got shoved down your throat, like Chris in Sonic X. The difference was she was just another character in the original. In the reboot she's almost as major of a character as Scrooge, and gets shoved down your throat even more.

I don't know about that, DT2017 has more lows but the highs are really high

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2003 was more of an animated version of the comics, and at the time it was a clear sidestep of the 80s show with more of a focus on the original material (triceratons etc) but I remember when the 2012 came out it started off kinda weak, but they put a lot of effort into their fight scenes and then the fanservice just started rolling and they really made it their own thing.

It's a helluva thing to compare both shows though, they're different beasts entirely. 2k3 had a great open, changed openings to match what happened in the show which is always a big plus, had THE best baxter stockman hands down and was generally a good watch until the whole future fiasco. 2012 just picked up steam and got stronger each season, right up until the last season which was just entirely fanservice (and toy merch time) and it gave us a fucking 3 parter Usagi Yojimbo story that was basically a soft pilot for a CG Usagi show I'm still pissed we never got.

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I can't stand the new one. The animation looks cheap and flash-y and the voices are god-awful. It's amateur hour. And everyone is so goddamn smug all the time.

The new one made me genuinely laugh more in the first two episodes than the original did in it's whole run. I wasn't really sure about the voices in nu-Ducktales at first but I prefer them now. Tennant is great as Scrooge, Launchpad is hilarious and the twins all have more defined personalities and relationship between each other.

Webby being a weird autistic girl who's never had friends before who can climb walls and do karate but is actually genuinely compassionate and helpful is a massive improvement over "widdle sistuh character that every kids show had at that time for some reason"

Webby is 100% shit in both shows.

>top soulless
>bottom soul

But in one she's actually a character

It's still odd to me how the DuckTales Moon Theme has become one of the most iconic chiptune songs.

Why is it odd? The song is so good that the song became a meme as soon as people could readily throw a song on a flash file and reupload it everywhere.

She's an annoying one in both, sorry. Strap both of them to a rocket and send them into the sun.

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What's more annoying, cloyingly cute and try-hard Care Bears innocent or bouncing off-the-walls hyper and obnoxious Amy Rose-like fan girl?

I don't know either. Burn em both, I say.

Just seems pretty niche, relative to all the other popular games on the NES. If someone asked "what's your favorite NES game", you'd have to go through 100+ other titles before someone mentioned DuckTales.

Apples to Oranges.
One is adventure-of-the-week slice of life with Scrooge as the main focus while the other is continuity driven with the kids as the focus.

Personally I'd say it's:
Three Cab's>Nu-Ducktales>OG Ducktales

I doubt that's true. DuckTales probably makes a lot of people's top 20s.

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Just mix DT's writers with 3C's animators and we would have the best show ever created.

Ducktales is just about the most iconic licensed game, it's getting high on the list

Give the new one Three Cabellero's budget and replace all the Disney Channel actors with actual actors and it might be fit to be in the same conversation as the original. Maybe.

That was so retarded

Nu-DuckTales isn't even as good as Quack Pack let alone DuckTales.

Quack Pack > Nu-DuckTales > DuckTales

It's either DuckTales or Batman. I'd probably rather play Batman at this point, but DuckTales was wayyy more popular. It might be the highest-selling Capcom title on the console.

I'd go:

DuckTales > Darkwing Duck > Quack Pack > Tom & Jerry Kids > whatever's playing on Cartoon Network right now > Nu-DuckTales

They are both good but the comics are still the best.

The real question: Would this collaboration be a Ducktales show or a Caballeros show

A Gargoyles reboot, obviously.

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Oh boy, I can only imagine Gargoyles animated in today's no-budget styles.

Gargoyles needs a more mature rating to stand out in a reboot

I'd only be down if they got Keith David and Jonathan Frakes back.

Everyone was hyped about the 3C when they announced Season 2.
And I was like

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I hated Ducktales when I was a kid.
The new one is okay but maybe I would've hated it as a kid too.

As much as I like the new show, I have to agree. The original was much more watchable when it was good.

No show with a low budget like Nu-Ducktales can ever hope to be as good as something made during the second renaissance.

Stories are more important to me than animation. In that regard, 2017 beats 1987.

>whatever's playing on Cartoon Network right now > Nu-DuckTales
Mate, i can get not likeing Nu-Ducktales, but that’s going a bit too far.

The stories are the new one's strongest point for sure, but I'd still give it to the original. The new one has more continuity, but I don't think that makes it better. It's actually worse in many ways, in fact.

I remember only really liking Scrooge and Launchpad as a kid. I'm enjoying new Ducktales a lot and probably would have liked it as a kid.

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They're both good in their own ways, but in the end, I say Ducktalez is the winner.
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Makes sense, people did not like the way season 1 turned out and during that lull a new show starting Yea Forums's cult favorites showed up

The original show's ending credits put me into a hypnotic trance and for 30 seconds I'm 4 years old again.

>quack pack

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>reboot

Weisman's still relatively young and working, and the Gargoyles world is big enough to explore more from it.

Pretty bad, huh? Still better than Nu-DuckTales in literally every way. The nephews are less 'tudey and annoying, too.

but they wear pants in quack pack. I cant fap to that shit bro

The people trying really hard to go out of their way to be mad at 2017 Ducktales are pretty funny

This. The writers made a big deal about making a Donald a major character, in the new show, but given his screen time he might as well still be in the Navy.

This. I'm surprised; this is the most polite NuDucktales thread I've ever seen.

What's to be mad about? It's just another crummy, poorly animated modern cartoon for kids. If you like the original DuckTales, there's 100 episodes and a major motion picture to go back back and re-visit. This new thing will be washed away and completely forgotten in a couple years, just like every other reboot.

It's actually a sequel to the NES game