Some people say that the whole mutant biggotry doesn't work in a universe where superheroes exist...

Iron Man, Sue Storm, Captain Marvel, Human Torch, and Brother Voodoo can all do those things respectively and people don't foam at the mouth to hate them

When they have a giant "X" emblazoned on their costume, it's a little easier to discern.

Problem is all of those are humans who are still human or have been changed through no fault of their own.

Mutants are an advancement of humans. They're a future that is vastly superior. They aren't made by accident. They just exist, and the underlying notion is humanity fears them because they're advanced humans. They're the future meaning humans will be wiped out by them. Therefore hatred and preservation. Rather like Homo sapien sapien and Homo sapien neanderthalis. By all measures, HSS should have been destroyed by HSN which were quantifiably stronger.

They need a better explanation of why people single out mutants. Like for example it comes out that aliens altered human DNA to introduce the X-gene and humans are justifiably afraid of aliens since they just got invaded. Or as another example some popular religious figure prophesied that demons would start taking over people and giving them powers, and then it started happening with mutants exactly how he described it. Those are just two ideas off the top of my head, but you get the idea, not necessarily those, but something along those lines.

The other thing they need to do is make mutants vulnerable to humans in some way. Because 'I'm a poor oppressed victim with godlike powers' doesn't really fly. Come up with some kryptonite type thing that negates mutant powers or something.

Combining the x-men into the current mcu would be gay and require being super unfaithful to the original origins of many characters... Or be a major ass pull.

Best kept separate.

>The other thing they need to do is make mutants vulnerable to humans in some way.
That exists in the form of there being much fewer mutants than humans. Also, for every godlike mutant there's a hundred whose power is turning their sweat to diet soda.

I'll go with no. Depends on the writer and depends on the reader/audience.
Some writers, in typical Marvel fashion, tend to push the grey nature of the heroes a little too far on the dark grey side to make hating any Marvel hero who isn't Beta Ray Bill unreasonable if you consider the entire continuity. The X-Men aren't exempt of that by any means, and you can add on top of that all the mutant villains. You also have to factor that some other heroes are hated or are divisive in universe, while some just manage to have good PR or stay under the radar. And also factor that mutants have been used as a political issue a handful of times, creating more potential strife
So I don't think it's entirely unreasonable mutants would be hated in universe.

Then there's the audience, and some people just don't accept writers or fictional characters having morals that they disagree with, it doesn't make sense to them. The typical "why doesn't Batman kill the Joker" crowd. Is it the 'tism? Possibly, but regardless these people are part of the audience as much as me.

Then there's the final aspect that mutant hate is supposed to be irrational in the first place, so there's really no "it doesn't work" route. If you think it's rational to hate them more (given what the people in universe know) then it still works on some level, you're just the Marvel citizen strawman the book is clumsily trying to preach to.

That's the stupidest thing Morrison ever wrote. Which is why nobody references it.

They don't have terrorists vying for supers supremacy though, a big reason why it's relatively reasonably a genetic thing to Marvel citizens is that fuckheads like Magneato and Pokielips keep pushing that narrative.

It does seem kind of hypocritical if you really think about it

>t the whole mutant biggotry doesn't work in a universe where superheroes exist
This is obvious.

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They're not though. They're actually based and redpilled. Yea Forums sez.

>They don't have terrorists vying for supers suprem
Well, there's Doom.

>This is obvious.
How obvious? Just look at this thread and count the number of try-hard 12 year old Yea Forumsntrarians who are taking the opposite side by sheer reflex.

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Could you expand on that? Other than mutants becoming public later in the timeline, I don't really see that much change necessary.
Besides it's not like X-Men movies have ever leaned heavily into origins/beginnings, aside from a couple of characters, some of which did see their character altered anyway like Rogue.

That's never been Doom's schtick, he wants to be superior to everyone else, he alone, he doesn't want to create a class of ubermensch with their normie slaves.
Kinda funny how the Inhumans basically achieved Apocalypse's wet dream, what with their slave unpowered cast. These fucks really have no business being liked in universe.

That's the fucking point.

That's some hardcore ad hominem

Iron Man, everyone knows he's a man in a suit

Sue Storm and Human Torch, like the rest of the fantastic four are national celebrities and everyone knows they got their powers from space

Brother Voodoo is legit villain and warlord, im sure that even if he was a mutant people would hate him for other reasons

Honestly I just think that people intrinsically, know whose a mutant and who isn't, even though from time to time they confuse some heroes with mutants(like I know Spiderman has been confused for a mutant from time to time).

Both of them are hated for thier actions, not for what they are. People will hate Hulk while praising Captain America.

Meanwhile, if Magneto blows up a town, every mutant will pay for it.

That's because Captain America isn't a fucking mutant.

It would make sense if there were a group that hated all superpowers persons instead of just mutants. It doesn't make sense that that line of thinking stop dead in it's tracks when the x-gene is involved.

He's a guy with super powers.

Marvel citizens don't hold anyone with super powers responsible for anything other powered people do. They only do that for mutants. It doesn't make sense.

What actions is Spider-Man hated for?

Read the thread or something. Or maybe a comic.

What am I wrong about?

Nobody holds the entire super human community responsible for anything an individual does. Despite the fact that they are just as capable of causing as much destruction as mutants.

Then there's the fact that anyone can get superpowers if they really want them. Anyone can build a suit, buy equipment, learn biochemistry, study magic, pick up an enchanted artifact or contact aliens to get super powers. With that in mind, what's the difference between a new mutant destroying a town with lightning and some smuck who huffed a radioactive fart and gassed an entire town?

You're talking about citizens who put Osborn, a known psychotic asshole, in a position of power just because he shot the queen of an alien invasion. Marvel citizens are morons.

Not arguing that.

I'm just tired of the X-Men narrative beating the same horse with no sign of progress for decades.

The entire point of Civil War was holding superheroes accountable for collateral damage, both in comics and in the movies. Not blaming the villains, straight up blaming the heroes. Bats gets blamed for attracting his villains or not killing Joker. Diana got shit on for snapping Lord's neck to stop his rampage. There's lots of examples that prove you wrong.

That's on Marvel being morons. Every bit of progress gets reversed for retarded events.

People still supported Iron Man, the Thunderbolts and the heroes who registered while hating the ones that didn't.

They'll never hate 100% of all superheros. just the one's they think are screwing up.