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Less self awareness and a climax that doesnt involve disabling a Device™
I mean I'm pretty sure the post-credits set up the team going to 2099 to help Miguel fix some shit
I honestly would love to see Supaidāman show up, but I know that the promise on Twitter was just to drum up more ticket sales
More Hobo Peter Parker
More Gwen
Less beta Miles Morales
Also more Peni but thats asking too much
I don't want a sequel.
No focus on Miles and more of a focus on the whole premise which is bringing Spider people together.
S-sauce?
We already know the sequel is a romance movie with miles and gwen
I'm more interested in the potential spin-off movies/TV shows. I'd like to see a Noir movie, but Spider-Ham seems most likely.
60's Spider-man
- Superior Spider-Man is the villain
- Subplot of Peter B Parker trying to be a good dad for baby Mayday
- Miles helping Gwen deal with the loss of Peter when The Lizard returns to be the underling of Spock
- Italian Spider-Man cameo
- Supaidaman saving the day with SWORD VIGOR
He should speak Japanese with English subtitles.
All the characters at the beach.
Especially Aunt May and Liv.
We need to stop Japan before they go any further
Miles teamed up with a new squad of Spider-Men. Forms a rivalry with Spider-Punk who is him, but cooler, and believes pop rap is sissy music
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Gwen and a Peter that actually lost a Gwen interacting. Symbiote Spidergwen. And Black Cat just because fuck she deserves to be in a film adaptation.
>Peni/Gwen
>loli cheerleader
Clearly Japan hasn't gone far enough.
>emissary of hell
>fights evil
Damn, Gwen Stacy looks like THAT?!
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I'd like to see a tighter cast, and have more character development from Gwen. More high competency tag-team fight scenes now that Miles will have more practice. I'd rather Gwen and Miles not get together since she just comes across as so much more mature and just have a cute friendship.
Maybe a cute scene with Peter B. Parker and MJ and their child.
Less Miles and more Miguel. Infact just drop the multiverse angle and make the whole thing 2099
Christ, that's fat! Dancer's body and all that.
>gwen flashing that gooch to full theater
Demons torture evil people all day long.
A lot less Miles and more spiders.
Also blonde Peter coming back to life because no heroes ever stay dead.
I always thought she was neato
that sure is a large noir fowl
...I never thought of it like that. Good answer.
I know objectively that show sucked but I'd love seeing her and saturday morning cartoon Peter in a cameo, for my childhood's sake.
yfw she shows up with Spider-Man looking for the real MJW
Shittest idea ever.
Allow him to stay dead, bendis is shit for bringing back ulitmate peter.
I'm pretty sure with the post-credit scene of 2099 is hinting of a time travel plot.
We already dealt with different dimensions now it's time travel.
Peni and Noir do a buddy cop movie
>different dimensions now it's time travel
Just want to point out that Gwen was already sent back in time, but only by a week. She arrived before the incident at the collider took place.
If you can enter a universe at any point in space you can do it at any point in time too.
>yfw Peter and Gwen save Gwen and Peter
Another Oscar win.
This film was too good for the Oscars.
>those hips on Peni
Non canon. Peni is sticc, Gwen is thicc
>Gwen is thicc
[citation needed]
More spider-ham. We need more spider-ham.
Damn, Scorpion looks like THAT?!
PLZ SONY OVERLORDS
>They include 60's Spider-Man.
>Most of his web pattern is still missing and his logos still only have six legs.
>His model is constantly being slightly altered to match the show's sloppy animation.
>In addition, they animate it so that he barely moves more than one part of his body at a time.
>He can do really stupid but effective shit with his web.
>The voice actor does that fake deep and serious voice for him.
>They purposefully reuse footage for him through the film just like the show did.
Would Yea Forums want this?
Saw a suggestion for a villianous Peter who acts like a pro wrestling heel.
Also a asshole teenager Peter who takes photos of Miles fuck ups to sell for them inflation bucks.
Just be the best it. I don't need sonething amazing just do the best damn job
They fucking promised they better. Also hope they dont make him purely a joke.
definitely!
however i would prefer SUPAIDAMAN or SUFFERINGMAN in any way or form.
>[citation needed]
See:
More of the Spider-family
YES
>Less miles in a sequel to his own movie
/Pol/tards puzzle me
Wasn't the sequel already confirmed to be just Gwen, Jessica Drew, and Silk?
Spin-off 1 is Spider-women. Mainline is still Miles and company.
Makes me happy to see so many people ask for Supaidaman. I hope he makes it in.
Any of these:
>Supaidaman with a mech that looks like a man in a suit
>60s Spider-Man with webbing only on his head and goofy web antics
>superior Spider-Man/Octopus with his autistic know it all
>2099
>Ben Reilly
>Ultimate spider woman, mayday, or silk.
Leopardon already exists as a drawing on Mile's desk. His chances of getting in are very High.
Oh also Spiders-Man
It wont happen for obvious reasons, but what if it did?
Liv fisting someone with her tentacles.
>All these fags hating on Neo-Miles
For shame
RIP
Neo-Miles is likeable but he's still the least interesting of the Spider people in the film.
You find spider-ham and gwen is more interesting than miles?
Shockers, plural
You're just saying that cause you don't want to fuck him and have a soft spot for Peter.
Substantially yes. Maybe I just have trouble relating to teenagers in my old age though.
Also possible, but I don't want to fuck Peni or Noire either.
>one by one the heroes go down against the hundreds of Shockers
>it look hopeless
>suddenly
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But would he chase him to the ends of the other Earths?
>make a Spider-Girls film
>drop one of the girls from the main cast
What did they mean by this
It means the suits know that Peni is shit.
it means they couldn't think of a way to stretch Peni into a full character instead of an interesting visual gimmick and joke.
>Peni is better than Miles
>Peni
Spider-ham is a one note looney tune character.
>It means the suits know that Peni is shit.
I didn't say they were better written than Miles, I said I found them more interesting. you can not be super into a character but still judge them by objective qualities.
>!moob
She's a big girl.
...
U
Liv is the new villain, and team up with a villain from each of the universes to form a new Sinister Six, who may or may not be the classic lineup, but are reimagined regardless. Vulture Noir etc.
Tell me about Gwen! How did she get those thighs?
A lotta leg day for a knock off superhero...
She's a dancer
That's a thicc penni
how do I get a dancer gf?
Seriously though I don't remember that about Gwen. Is that a Spider-Gwen only thing?
How many spider verses will Sony put out?
nigga that's cute and I don't even like MilesxGwen
I'm guessing that they're going to 'upgrade' sp//dr to look more like the eva copybut was in the comics.
This makes me angry
Has the Miles comics improved since the movie came out?
it might get old if he's a cast member proper
he's the sort of cameo you save for one hilarious gag sequence near the climax
I honestly want Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield to play their Spider-Men.
It stopped being a completely unfocused mess that it was after miles first moved to 616. Just had a solid adventure locating missing kids with Rhino and Captain America.
God, yes. He better run like this.
As someone who never invested into milesverse, how good is it and how good is Miles? Where could I start if it is?
60's spider man and SUPAIDAMAN team up would be a great gag if they do an all out 100 different spider man end battle.
Alright this end of the deal is good, your source better be legit.
It's probably based on the Spider-Women crossover story from a few years ago, which Peni wasn't part of.
Original tweet he was responding to was a fan asking if Japanese spider man would appear in the sequel
i'd like another season of spectacular or at least an acknowledgement of him. Mayday would be amazing I'm not sure why they've never tried to develop any sort of report between her and Miles since if you want to write him into peters life it'd be interesting to see it there
its weird because its just wanting more references than it is just wanting a story.
she was so hot ngl
the design choice to make the tentacle arms more flesh-like and undulating absolutely did not make her less so, either
>what do you want to see in the sequel Yea Forums?
We already know what the sequel will be about.
Amy Pascal of Sony has stated that the focus of the second Spider-verse will be the romance between Miles Morales and Gwen Stacy.
How many people actually enjoy Gwen/Miles?
Not tolerate it , but actually enjoy it?
>mayday
user I hate to say it but the daughter is probably gonna be Annie
But gwenom was the worst spider-gwen story
I feel like Ben Reilly is gonna be hard considering that blonde peter exists, at least from a visual standpoint
It's better without Bendis but still not great. They still used the venom strike to finish two fights
>Also a asshole teenager Peter who takes photos of Miles fuck ups to sell for them inflation bucks.
>One of the alternate dimensions that is opened in the sequel has a teenage Peter Parker in it.
>Miles is initially excited at the prospect of hanging out with a Peter that is his age. B.Parker was old and busted and got his shit together eventually but was still kind of a disappointment. Blond Parker is still an ideal he has left the idea of being exactly like behind, but still casts a shadow on all of the Spiders. A young Peter can be a friend, and someone to share the burden of living up to a ideal with, even more than with Gwen.
>B.Parker tries to warn him that the Peter he expects(alluding to the way early Spider-Man has changed significantly in the public perception.)
>Young Peter is an asshole. Standoffish,and resentful of Miles for a reason that Miles can't really discern. It's not about Miles being Spider-Man, but something about hims rubs young Parker the wrong way.
I wanna see Miles use the mallet that Spider-Ham gave him.
>sequel
never happening when your movie only made 6mill for the studio
thatsa dark rooster goddamn
Fucking Yes!
What's everyone's favorite line they didn't hear until the 2nd viewing?
>Norman I can't have you creating a black hole in Brooklyn, it's not know for that
>Maybe Road Island, but not Brooklyn
Or
>Spider Noir: Sleeeeep
Spider-UK and Spider-Man India.
Aged up Peni in a Sailor Mars inspired outfit, with a transformation sequence.
>JK Simmons returns as Raimiverse Jonah and has a big role in the movie
>main villains are an entire Sinister Six of Ocks with the twist being the "main" Ock is Carnage Ock from the PS1 game
>the Spider-Team is slowly being made one Spider at a time during the movie so each Spider has a much more gracious time in the spotlight
>climax of the movie, Spiders are cornered, battered, beaten, and the Ocks are wanking themselves over how no Spider is a match to their combined intelligence
>cue in Ock-removers like Kaine and Last Stand Peter
I want a subplot about THE EMISSARY OF HELL bonding with a slightly older, robot-less Peni. Supaidaman will act as her father figure up until he sacrifices himself to save all the Spiders, but not before giving Peni full control of Leopardon (which could look more NGE in this version but eh)
daww
Costume full of spiders (last Spidergeddon event featured one).
As far as new spiders:
Main cast tier
>Superior Spiderman. Has a lot of potential either as the main villain, as in he wants to gather all the other spiders people to join his attempt to create a multiverse spider-empire, or as an anti-hero mentor to Miles specifically, since he's a pretty good foil to Peter B. Parker. Serious vs depressed. At the top of his game vs at his lowest. Tech-savy and well supplied vs poor.
>Spaidaman. More of comic relief character, Spaidaman speaks in Japanese with English subtitles which appear on screen, which only Spider-ham notices/interacts with. Peni serves as his interpreter translating his hammy dialogue and weird backstory into something more digestible for the rest of the cast and audience.
>Spider-punk. Possibly a dual protagonist alonside Miles, Hobart serves as a foil for Miles in terms of both personality and design. Both of them are fairly young but while Miles needed a mentor figure to bring him out of his shell, Hobart's conflicts with authority in his own world lead him to buck anyone who tries to give him orders regardless of whether its for his own good. In addition, while Miles' motif was inspired by hip-hop, Hobart's was inspired by punk rock.
Minor character tier
>Spiderman 2099. The Bladerunner of Spidermen and the edgy cyber-punk teenager.
>House of M Spiderman. Less the character from the event and more the characterization, House of M Spiderman is basically the opposite of Peter B. Parker as he got everything he wanted from the start and is a celebrity (maybe with his own reality TV show like the Kardashians) but is ultimately unfulfilled.
>Spiderman-UK. The Doctor Who of Spidermen because he actually has experience with dimension hopping.
Cameo tier
>60's Spiderman. Meme-character. Literally just hiding behind a desk or pointing at the cast.
>Spiders-men. A horrifying colony of spiders who thinks they are people.
>Hostess cake Spiderman. You know the drill.
And Miles Morales was the worst Spiderman but they made it work here.
Yes, but I'd prefer that they keep him a 2D character, so he looks like he was sloppily pasted on top of the screen.
>Madame Web and 90's Spider-Man show up looking for the Real MJW
>The color contrast between the color on their costumes blows Spider-Noir's mind just like the Rubik's Cube
>gif
For what purpose?
What about Zombie Spiderman?
But user he's dead.
No he isn't he just doesn't have any skin!
Marvel Zombies Spidey is actually pretty pure. It seem like general consensus from all these different threads is looking for an antagonistic spider to join to cause some friction for the group. Zombie spidey would at least have a bit of sympathy to go along with the threat of the hunger over taking him.
Esto es el fin, Grande Padre.
It’s a different writer, it’s gonna be shit
There are multiple good writers in existence.
>some collection generic anime kawaii tropes is more interesting than an actual character
top kek
3 directors are back for the Spider-verse 2 and lord and miller are still producing/supervising the entire project.
It's the context that does it. Miles does his thing well enough but it's nothing I haven't seen before.
What other theatrically released legacy movies have you watched? The only one I can think of, which is a technicality, is Ant-man and spider-verse blows that out the water.
I think there's some confusion here. I liked this movie a lot, and I liked Miles. I just didn't find him super interesting. The film doesn't work without him but I was always more interested in seeing his companions than him.
He's a perfectly competent execution of the aimless teen finding a purpose in his life and that's it.
I think Superior Spider-Man would be a good third act antagonist. The spider team beats the villain, and Otto goes too far as he always does.
I would like to see 60's Spider-Man.
I hope Gwen fixes her hair in the next one.
Spider-ham is more unique than miles. Miles still is peter painted black.
>I was bitten by a radioactive spider
>I was bitten by a radioactive pig
haha imagine if Gwen was bitten by a radioactive pig and started snorting and farting like BRRRAP haha wouldn't that be weird
If you paid attention, you would see noir and peni turn to ham in disbelief that he was bitten by a pig.
Japan loves Penny
What does japan think of spider-noir and spider-ham?
Some people I've seen love Noir, I haven't heard that much on ham.
Mostly it's been about how Penny, Gwen, and Miles are cute. Miles costume is amazing with the hoodie and shoes, and Peter being a cool dad figure.
(You)
That the kiss is going to be cute as fuck.
>Spider-ham is a silly cartoonish pig who knows he’s a cartoon and takes full advantage of that fact with glee. Has a very delightful looney tunes style to it.
>Miles is black. And he’s black. Goes through very similar origin to peter being an awkward nerd that loses his uncle. But he’s black now. And that makes him different somehow.
I mean hypothetically it's an O.K. finisher move as long as it's part of a combo or you work down someone's defenses until it works.
We don't bitch at Goku for using Kamekameha, right?
You want another (you)?
Miles' parents are alive, he has a friend that he isn't the son of Norman Osborn, and he's not nearly as technically adept as Peter, more of an arts guy. He also wasn't born in Marvel 50's, which despite Peter being "28" made him live thru stories and styles from that era.
Has it ever occurred to you that someone who doesn’t like miles over other characters like ham is trying to bait you, but just doesn’t like miles. What is interesting about miles? Nothing. Anyone else on the team is better than miles.
>Miles' parents are alive
Only his father had any importance
>he has a friend that he isn't the son of Norman Osborn
He played almost no role in the movie
>and he's not nearly as technically adept as Peter
That doesn’t make him interesting
>more of an arts guy.
Graffiti is not art
Here you go little champ.
This is my last (you)s
This. People talk about Miles being black and bland, and they forget that he's been bland for eight years because he comes from one of the blandest decades in modern history, where the highlight was that Trump won as U.S. president. That sort of thing leaves a print on a character. Miles can't have Peter's legacy because he has his own, which means if you want him to build one that's worthwhile you've got to start by making the world a better place to emulate.
And that means stopping Disney, whatever it takes.
Only on Yea Forums could someone not like miles be considered bait or shitposting.
You were told why he's a different character who will have different stories. Nobody is going to discuss something as subjective as "interest" with you, you aspie.
He’s not interesting. Especially with everyone praising him just for being a minority.
That is not up to you to decide for everyone.
lol
2099 and Supaidah-man
I bet you only like him because he’s brown
I bet you're baiting.
Then why do people like MCU Peter? Is it because he's brown?
We’re on Yea Forums. Typical thread about miles is screeching about /pol/ which i’m surprised it’s been civil for this long.
>ctrl f /pol/
>2 results, one of them this post
Like i said, typical miles thread is about how you don’t like miles, you’re from /pol/.
This isn't a Miles thread, it's a Spider Verse 2 thread, so that's not even a relevant comment.
He’s still probably going to be the main character in the sequel.
Oh shit
So, we'll get to see if it was just a fluke that the first film was a success. That's something that interests me, as a Yea Forums poster, if a character that was unexpectedly successful can do it again.
Their only similarities is they're both awkward dweebs as teenagers. I was the guy saying Miles was the least interesting of the group but you're still being autistic about it.
You have my axe, user.
I'm mainly here for the art and that one user that actually has relevant information about the sequels
Miles plays an important but thankless role in this film. He's never going to be anyone's favorite because he's the foil for all the more interesting weird shit going on around him but you can't have the movie without him. In this film he shares the straightman role somewhat with Gwen since you also needed a competent straightman and Miles was just a trainee and that's why Gwen is the second least interesting despite her potential.
He is the least interesting of the main group as a concept, but he's more complex as a character than all but Peter B. Parker and is 100% necessary. Those are my feelings on Miles. I doubt that'll change much in the next film, and that's not a bad thing.
Honestly it's just as likely the sequel will be a Gwen movie. They've laid the ground work with Miles but Gwen's comics aren't that good either and also need a fix-up. With the tripod of Peter B (fixed 616 Peter), Miles (fixed Miles) and Gwen (fixed Gwen) you have more stability than just fixing two and leaving Gwen as an "eh".
If Gwen was the main character I have confidence they could build her into something more interesting. I enjoyed what there was of her here.
Also i thought Peter B was Raimi Peter, which was why he didn't give a shit about meeting another Gwen Stacy?
Anyone know about those waifu polls that are held in japan? Any chance Gwen and peni will end up making the cut?
Why is she so cute, guys?
He couldn't be Raimi Parker, he didn't try to lynch Miles on sight.
He's 616 Peter as seen by Sony in a cartoon adaptation. Just as Raimi is 616 Peter but seen by Raimi in a movie adaptation.
He doesn't give a shit about Gwen because it's been 22 years, and if he didn't feel anything for her clone 2 years after her death he's not going to feel anything for an alternate dimension Gwen 22 years later.
That's not how human beings work and the fact that the clone saga is poorly written does nothing to change that.
This isn't the Clone Saga. This is the Gerry Conway run back in the 70's. You should probably read more Spider-man comics.
It's got Jackal making clones, it's shit.
In any case meeting a duplicate of someone you loved 22 years ago that died tragically warrants more than a shrug even if it wouldn't make sense for him to immediately re-fall in love.
>It's got Jackal making clones, it's shit.
So you didn't read it, good for you.
>In any case meeting a duplicate of someone you loved 22 years ago that died tragically warrants more than a shrug
Not in this case. Clearly.
nah. let japan do their thing and lets see where it will go
Not a duplicate, a different person. She shares nothing in common with 616 Gwen besides her name and face.
Doesn't he have unique powers, such as turning invisible?
I’d like to see them start branching off into different self contained alternate universe movies.
>Superior Foes: A Spider-Verse Tale
>A group of lesser villains constantly trumped by their Spider-Man attempt a heist to put them on the map. They manage to do it, but accidentally release Carnage and Shriek, and after realizing they’re going to wipe out New York decide to try and stop them.
>2099: A Spider-Verse Tale
>Straightforward origin story about Miguel becoming Spider-Man
>The Amazing Spider-Girl: A Spider Verse Tale
>Story about Mayday Parker, and her attempt to live up to her father’s name. Mayday has to face down the Black Tarantula and his minions.
There is only one logical answer for “Who should be the villain in Spiderverse 2?”
I think that's the breed whose feathers, tissues, and organs are all black.
fast twitch muscle feathers
Sweaty Peni.
>Superior Foes
>try to stop Carnage and Shriek
>not backstab each other over who gets to help Spider-man the most in stopping the symbiotes due to unresolved issues and unclear motivations that they try to disguise as greed
>not learning the true value of friendship and responsibility from Peter's example
>not forgetting their lesson the second they can get just one more dollar over their partners
>Abrasive, Stand-Offish, Asshole
>Teenage Peter
I know just the guy
Dimensional traveling hijinks with hobo peter and miles
A Spidey 2099 + 60s Spidey buddy team up movie would be great
Somebody from here made a youtube video of posts talking about peni and someone from japan found it, and now they're making fun of us.
Post the link dude.
link the japanese guy laughing at us
Who is they?
All of Japan?
Cute
gwen/peni mommy daughter dynamic
miles does whiteface
peter slowly gets fatter as the film goes on
>japan is making fun of us again
>It's a Peni and Gwen team up episode.
I haven't read comics in a couple decades and my memory isn't perfect sue me
So meeting someone with the face of a dead loved one would just kinda bore you?
Spider-Gwenfags, educate an oldfag who hasn't actually read her comics: Is she literally just someone with the same name and look but totally different personality? If so, what exactly is the point?
Turning invisible and shooting electricity are not that uncommon as super powers go.
I wanna see Spiders-man
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It begins
The point is she's a Spider-girl whose father is a cop that wants to kill her because she is considered responsible for killing her best friend who turned into a lizard monster because he knew she was Spider-girl and wanted to be special like her.
It's basically the alternate universe where Peter became the school shooter he would've become if he hadn't gotten spider powers and instead a girl named Gwen picked up the slack. However since this Gwen isn't even from the late 1960's she has none of Gwen's "perfect Stan Lee wife" personality, which like it or not is exactly who Gwen is.
Overall it's not a very good comic in execution.
And in case your foggy memory doesn't remember, 616 Peter didn't even know Gwen until he met her in college. He's never met a Gwen in high school.
I'm actually as I write this am starting to become curious what your exposure to Gwen Stacy is, because it certainly isn't comic content.
It's more you disassociate the two Gwen's. Doing some big tearful "I'm sorry for letting you die" scene is pointless, She is not 616 Gwen, all the apologizing would just confusing and awkward. The only reason you see stupid shit like that happening in comics is for the audience for 'closure'.
As for her personality Yes, she's completely different from 616 Gwen. Grew up in a different era, no romantic attachment to her Peter, completely different interests, and of course she has spider-powers.
B-but they are self-aware of it!
Midlife Crisis Spider-man even alludes to it!
>And in case your foggy memory doesn't remember, 616 Peter didn't even know Gwen until he met her in college. He's never met a Gwen in high school.
Good point. Even so.
>Gwen isn't even from the late 1960's she has none of Gwen's "perfect Stan Lee wife" personality, which like it or not is exactly who Gwen is.
Story telling standards for a modern movie and a comic aimed at kids are pretty different so yeah, a lot has to be reinvented. I just assumed they took some common stuff.
I didn't want a big tearful scene, that would be wrong. Just the complete lack of any acknowledgement felt weird.
>The only reason you see stupid shit like that happening in comics is for the audience for 'closure'.
This precisely.
We get at least one user who wants to dedicate the whole movie to Gwen and Peter unnaturally throwing apologies at each other or some kind of "he's in danger and she saved him, but then she's in danger and he saved her!" and then, after all that, they have the gall to call this movie a "focus-tested product".
>It's basically the alternate universe where Peter became the school shooter he would've become if he hadn't gotten spider powers
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the Daily Bugle tomorrow.
>We get at least one user who wants to dedicate the whole movie to Gwen and Peter unnaturally throwing apologies at each other or some kind of "he's in danger and she saved him, but then she's in danger and he saved her!"
No one in this thread has said that, where are you getting this?
Not that guy but they bothered doing the MJ scene with Peter.
Gwen and Peter should have said *something*
Example:
>After escaping the lab with the goober
>Gwen and Peter start examining each other
>So you're Peter Parker...
>So you're Gwen Stacey...
>both simultaneously: I'm not ready to deal with this.
>both glance back one last time
Done.
It's not story telling standards. Stan Lee could only write women in two modes, his wife or a psychopath. Mary Jane just so happened to be the most mildest psycho of the bunch so 19 year old based Gerry paired her up with Peter and gave Stan Lee's wife the neck snap.
I rushed that post, sorry. I was gonna say it happened in a previous thread, this was around or before the Oscars.
Yeah something like that would have been sufficient. I guess they just didn't think people would much care because Gwen Stacy is practically nonexistent in adaptations.
1960's comics in general are poorly written. Wait scratch that, superhero comics in general are poorly written. You know what I mean. Psychopath is a bit hyperbolic.
The MJ scene with Peter is precisely why there's no scene with Gwen.
A) Peter isn't going to spaghetti over Gwen because that's not an issue anymore.
B) Gwen isn't going to spaghetti over Peter because she's already internally wrote off Peter B as a different person.
>It's more you disassociate the two Gwen's.
>As for her personality Yes, she's completely different from 616 Gwen. Grew up in a different era, no romantic attachment to her Peter, completely different interests, and of course she has spider-powers.
So why is she even Gwen? Just name recognition? Thought it would sell better than a different girl spiderman?
Why do you keep assuming any acknowledgement would have to be teary melodrama or spaghetti spilling?
THIS. Fuck any plot that involves shutting off a pillar of light in the sky that opens a hole to whateverthefuck place.
Here's a better idea: Kingpin or Sinister Six or whatever are on a mutlidimensional bank heist and the plot is one part chase film and one part road movie. Spidergang stops for weird fast food in one dimension, and then in another has to team up with the villains they've been chasing to break out of multiversejail.
God, why is Peni so fucking lewd?
>Psychopath is a bit hyperbolic
It isn't though. His most females are Janet Pym, Mary Jane, Susan Storm and Gwen Stacy to name a few. Crazy or Stan Lee's wife.
And fuck you Spider-Man was great since the start. What the hell do you know you don't even read comics?
pretty much. Peter was never a middle-aged man (nor was ever Spider-Man) to Gwen, Peter B is pretty much an entirely different person. Peter B's Gwen probably died decades ago in his timeline, so this rando teenager Spider-Woman is just not the same person to him.
MJ is different because they only recently divorced in Peter B's world, and he's awestruck seeing his recently-divorced wife again in the prime of her life in all her mid-20s perfection.
Because the writers chose not to include it.
I really reccomend checking out this guy's Twitter
twitter.com
He was an animator on the film and his Twitter is full of behind the scene stuff from the movie and other random things which is pretty cool
>And fuck you Spider-Man was great since the start.
Yeah it's great when you're a kid and haven't been exposed to anything better.
since some of you anons are talking about OG Spider-Man, where's a good place online I can read the original 60s run of The Amazing Spider-Man (preferrably with Amazing Fantasy #15)? I'm curious to see how it holds up.
Fuck off back to Yea Forums wanker. This discussion is done.
Correct the writers chose not to include this thing that only you are talking about. Thanks for pointing that out, I guess.
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If you're main reason for caring about adaptations of old school spiderman story elements isn't nostalgia I don't even know what to tell you, user. Yea Forums is my home board anyway
They didn't include any acknowledgement because it's giving more than an inch to people who will beg the whole mile. You give them something like and there's just gonna be more people asking "so when are they going to deal with this". That's not even going into how lame that interaction is.
When the hard fact is that there's nothing to acknowledge, and nothing to deal with. The writers are faithful enough to the characters to just not do it at all, despite what tropes people want to insert into the situation.
>They didn't include a nice moment because they didn't want autists on a Khmer crochet board asking for shipping shit
I hate that this is actually plausible with the state of capeshit media.
>Gwen's crotch
What the fuck is going on there, it looks like she shit her cameltoe.
Anything to see Italian Spiderman
It's silk from her spinneret.
I'm looking at it very carefully and I can't see what you mean. Can you MS paint the problem?
1960's actually had some pretty dope writing desu.
Because like Miles even explained in the movie, she comes from an alternate dimension where things are sort of similar but also very different.
I think the question was, why not just make her an entirely new character? And the answer is marketing
They did make Peni at one point.
Because Emma Stone is marginally prettier than Kirsten Dunst.
Seems like the verdict in Japan regarding Peni is that they think she’s cute and they love her, with exception of sakuga nerds who have complained (justifiably) that Peni looks kind of 90s and that her super low frame rate looked sort of weird. A bunch of people want more merch of her and a few people said they hope Peni gets a spin-off show in the same style. All of them universally agree she’s better than comic Peni though, seems like.
Any hentai artists chime in?
We need people to post more Japanese art god damn it
>Because Emma Stone is substantially prettier than Kirsten Dunst.
ftfy. Which is weird because MJ should be much better looking than Gwen. it should go Felicia>MJ>Gwen>POWER GAP> Betty Brant
Well her origin of creation is that She was the most popular Gwen design from a Marvel 'what if cover campaign' where Gwen Stacy was featured as several Marvel heroes, villains and such. Her spider-woman costume was so popular she got her own book and moved into canon.
I haven't seen an Emma Stone film since Birdman and she was kind of whatever.
I want Lily Octavius to return.
Oh yeah I remember, that happened. Literally born from a costume. Not unlike Venom I guess.
Again, the core of it is , otherwise no-one would have put Gwen in the costume.
Well it is a very good costume.
>Hi I'm Gwen Stacy, I'm from another universe
>That's funny, I know a Gwen Stacy from my Universe.
>Oh? How is she doing?
>Oh got thrown off a bridge and I snapped her neck trying to save her.
Award winning dialogue. Cue that laugh track.
Wrong order. Gwenpool is a result of the cover campaign (and also better all around desu), Gwen was an Edge of Spider-verse tie in that got super popular from basically the costume alone. It's popularity made them do the different covers.
I really don't know why movie creators didn't try to make new character with gwen.
Like...make her a clone of gwen stacy or Peter parker.
This but unironically. Add in a "She was a good friend." and you have a deal.
>Oh and then my biology teacher wanted to... you know... her so bad he actually cloned you!
>Not me, Peter. Her.
>Right so he clones you and then decides: hey, what if he can throw me off a bridge as payback? And then, get this, when I survived he cloned me too and made me fight myself!
>Wait, so there's a clone of you in your universe?
>Dozens, Gwendy!
Bazinga.
Kinda generic, I want a plot that's more centered around the social problems of being Spider-Man. I always dreamt of a story of Spider-Man being in such a horrific event or experience that Miles would question if he should continue being Spider-Man not because of his safety but because of how he makes people worry about him
>Mile fights someone like Venom who destroys him
>Staggering as he escapes and thinks he's about to die from his injuries
>Come back home looking like video at 2:12 youtu.be
>Parents start freaking out and gets him to a hospital
>In hospital room, Mile's moms cries that to see his son injured and Dad ballistic to figure out who hurt his son
>Miles can't tell him what happens out of fear that they will know that he's Spider-Man
>Feels guilty when that he can't tell them what happen which makes them worry more for him
(1/2)
tbqh it probably wouldn't hurt for 616 Peter to warn her about any college professors that seem a little too nice to her when she gets there
If you're going to tease Supaidaman for the sequel, naturally Peni has to make a return, and have more focus as a character, I think.
Also, just to further appeal to the weebs, let's toss in Mangaverse Spidey... or at least a close approximation of him.
Or we could include ol' "Spirit Tiger" manga Spidey.
>All of them universally agree she’s better than comic Peni
Ew
>Things continue icely until Miles finally confronts him near the climax.
>Young Peter doesn't dislike Miles personally, but thinks he has had it easy. More powers, a larger support system, and a group of experienced Spider-Men helping him nearly from the beginning while Parker has been fucking up and winging shit all alone.
>More importantly not the guilt.
>Miles talks about his Uncle Aaron. How he watched his Spider-Man die. His fear and worry as he ventures forth as a new Spider-Man.
>They don't become best friends but learn to understand each other.
Matter of fact, would it be better for gwen to be blonde Peter daughter?
(2/2)
>Spider-Man weighs the consequences of being Spider--Man and how it's affecting his family and life at school
>Venom is Eddie Brock who's a journalist who investigates who the new Spider-Man is and find's out it's Miles
>Brock blackmails Miles to have him stop being Spider-Man or else his family and friends will get hurt
>Mile's dilemma to be forced to stop being Spider-Man or come out with his identity
>supporting spider-characters giving him advice about how they dealt with the same situation or feelings as Miles
I'm pretty sure this has been done somewhere but I would definitely like to see it in a film (any Spider-Man film really as this could be applied to Peter Parker).
No, how the fuck would that work? Mary Jane is a Dutch-Irish red-head and Peter is a jew.
Noire Cat femme fatale when?
>Peter is a jew.
I'm gonna need a source on that, I've literally never heard of that before.
Blonde Peter parker, not hobo one.
>and Peter is a jew
When does captain marvel open there? I hope it doesn't cannibalize the verse.
The older Peter B. Parker is either jewish or MJ is.
Their wedding was a jewish one.
The stomping of a glass wrapped in cloth is part of a jewish marriage ceremony.
Wait, how was it Jewish? Did they step on a glass or something and I missed it?
Shit, I thought you meant in general, that's why I was confused. I believe it in Spider-Verse. That has some weird implications and doesn't do much as a background detail, but okay.
Checked. Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like I'd have noticed that in Raimi's adaption. He wouldn't let that slide.
Yes, I watched the movie yesterday, so I remember it. It was one of those “blink and you’ll miss it” details, though.
yeah man during the hobo parker montage he stomps on the glass
The blonde Peter is dead and his daughter wouldn't have been from a different universe.
why is kingpin so strong? is it all just normal human muscle, or does he have some kind of bio-engineering?
He’s a big guy
The funniest part is that I even noticed that and forgot that was a Jewish thing until someone mentioned it. Cool. Still, odd implications, but a nice little detail.
Wonder why they went for it. There's really enough in there that I feel like they did it to make it clear Peter B. was 616-adjacent and not 616, like the 616 Peter that didn't wait for his orange juice in the morning or some shit and that's the difference.
That's actually been done in Mile's ultimate run. He gets blackmailed by his uncle early in his career with the threat of exposure and harm to his folks if he doesn't agree to become his enforcer. As for his hard loss that's easily his 2nd venom encounter where he tears hell across new york to try and save his mom at her hospital.
God I wish that were me.
I guess that makes it likely Noir is Jewish too which I guess has some weight to it as his primary occupation is beating the shit out of Nazi spies and agents.
It's probably more to do with under estimation by supers, because 'he's just a guy' and he's 'fat'. He probably catches a lot of people off guard that way.
I always thought it was a tribute to Stan Lee since he was Jewish and Stan always said that spider man was the hero closest to himself.
It literally says he's from 616 on one of the screens.
You're being too rigid about what constitutes being of a universe. You can't tell if an electron's spin is up or down before you measure it but that doesn't change the fact that it's an electron.
Aaron Aikman to be included and become a popular character in his own right.
But this wont happen...
He could've been Sony's Ironman..
Well that's fun, and I wonder which 616 it is. Pre-OMD? Just post-Clone saga?
616 constitutes more than that, it's not rigidity, it's specificity. He's clearly not the main guy, despite filling the role. Just like this Miles isn't the 616/Ultimate Miles, for a variety of reasons. And the Blonde Pete is a new guy closer to Ben Reilly than anything.
Weren't they all from like T(Number) or some shit anyways? Only saw it once in the theater and wasn't looking for it then.
Fair on both counts. Noir makes a lot of sense there. Just a neat detail.
Queens is a very jew-dense area of the world, so it makes sense that at least one of them spidermans is jewish
He knows some weird martial arts shit too, so it could be some esoteric eastern knowledge
They're not new characters. They're adaptations of previously existing characters. Peter B. Parker is 616 Peter as seen from Spider-Verse by Sony (therefore Raimi) taking place long, long after when OMD would have happened (he's 44), but didn't because the probability amplitude of that is catastrophically low, and also Spencer never came in to replace Slott, because that's also a miracle.
He's comics Spider-man as Spider-man will end up in 50 years in a world without Joe Quesada but with the prevailing "let's keep him from growing up" attitude of modern comics.
Blonde Peter is only superficially like Ben. He is an adaptation of Ultimate Peter but instead modified to be a flawless perfect hero type. Like a character hitting the ground energy level in terms of complexity.
This Miles is Ultimate Miles, but done by writers that aren't Bendis. Pretty much anyone committed could've done a million things with Miles and Bendis did nothing. This doesn't mean that Bendis' Miles is the one true Miles and Spider-Verse Miles isn't, it means that the people who made this film are good and Bendis is shit.
None of this makes them different characters. There's not going to be another 616 Peter showing up, or another and another, ad infinitum. They are literally meant to be those characters from the comics. This is an adaptation. Like any cartoon, or film, based on comics.
P.S. It was E-(number). E stands for Earth.
>44
40
Does the movie ever explain how Gwen gets into Mile's universe, before Spiderman is thrusted into the dimension machine by green goblin?
Yes.
She takes out a blackboard and draws the Heisenberg uncertainty principle for Energy-time relationships and demonstrates that at sufficiently high Energy precision, the time precision reduces dramatically, allowing waveforms to travel back in time.
Peter understands all of this but Miles just keeps staring at her butt.
She’s timeshifted from the explosion one week into the past.
If I remember correctly, she was thrown into Mile's universe a week ago when Kingpin was testing the collider. They mentioned it briefly at the beginning how New York was experiencing earthquakes and Spider-Man is investigating the cause of it before Mile meets Parker.
Very happy my spider-daughter Peni poses for me like this all the time.
Is any of it worth reading or is Miles really a horribly written character in the Ultimate run?
Ah, I see. This is an unconventional and specific opinion, but I like this and understand your point now. It's a great adaption and the best Miles has ever been, like you said, because fuck Bendis. Great ideas here.
we really need more Peni/Gwen lewds
This is especially pronounced because there are actually more Raimi references for Blonde Peter, and Raimi Peter is closer to Ultimate than ASM.
Multiple Penis. More Penis than we can count. All the Penis.
user, I...
What's your favorite part of this screenshot?
All those untitled folders and files got me since I have a bad habit of creating those too.
I also like how along with stuff such as "ock_notes", "proton test" and "secret plans", Doc Ock also has folders like "cute animals", "best_sandwiches" and "dinner_party".
Would love to see something like that in a sequel.
Like this, but all Penis.
What would be a cute or funny yugioh or pokemon peni would use for draw request?
on monday, im gonna buy all these fucking comics i swear to god
So where's all that japanese fanart that was supposed to explode after the movie released over there?
Doom?
Do you read Japanese websites?
I think it's just the fact this Ock actually has something resembling a life. Otto wishes he was Liv.
There's been a bunch on twitter and the spider-verse tag on Pixiv has been blowing up as well. And the movie came out there 2 days ago? What ya talking about user?
Spider-Men from different time periods rather than just tangibly different dimensions.
1906 Spider-Man
2099 Spider-Man
1960 Spider-Man
1990 TAS Spider-Man
Tas and 1960 team up in a fight by reusing footage of themselves winning
No remotely recent Marvel comic is worth reading.
>Spider-Men from different time periods rather than just tangibly different dimensions.
The only characters from the same time period were the main three and even then Peter B came from a dimension where Peter Parker was born a generation earlier than in Gwen's universe. Noire was from 1933 and Peni is from the 31st century.
Instead of a sequel focus on adapting other stories in this aesthetic. It's a fucking *great* visual style for adapting comic book inspired stories, but I would hate to see it limited to just Spider-Verse sequels. Picture something like Gwenpool or Ms Marvel in this style.
did you not read the run where he had a nervous breakdown after seeing her once? Or the pages of dialogue between them where he says he still loves her but she needs to live a life separate from the person she was cloned from? Making Gwen Miles love interest is detrimental to both characters, I've never understood why they never tried to pair him with mayday in the spider-verse comics she never had a big love interest and it would be a good way of trying to tie Miles closer to peter.. Doing this seems to add unneeded tension with fans
meant for
did you not se the movie or read her (terrible) comics? She straight up said shes a hero because of the death of her best friend peter, the fact that she has no visible reaction to either Peter B or the death of the new peter (another one she could've potentially prevented) Is a disservice to the character
The only you might be able to get is Gwenpool, that's a bit iffy with her because she's technically not a spider character. Unless you get some cross promotion from Disney/Marvel to license out some characters for animated features.
While not necessarily in this style I'm hoping Marvel goes back to making 40 minute animated specials with Disney+
Gwenpool isn't a Gwen Stacy.
check shadbase
>Disney+
No. Death to the mouse.
True, but the origin of her creation was based on Gwen Stacy as part of that Gwen Stacy Marvel Cover event. Unsure if that would qualify her as being a spider character meaning Sony could use her without permission from the mouse. It's iffy.
He's already had the nervous breakdown. And his reaction was to simply not believe that it was Gwen. And then he went a little crazy. But ultimately, that is ancient history and not relevant.
Spider-Gwen also demonstrates fully that she doesn't consider the other Peters as her Peter in the Mary Jane scene, and you need to get over the facts of the story and move on.
I mean, they can do that, they could give her diffrent name and call her pink spider.
>Shadman
Gwenpool could get in if they do a animated Deadpool set of movies and do a Spider-Man crossover. Or an animated Howard the Duck Movie.
sauce
I don't want to pay a patreon
>pic
Why does Gwen have a symbiote in this one
>Spider-Gwen also demonstrates fully that she doesn't consider the other Peters as her Peter in the Mary Jane scene,
>I've been where you are right now. That's not your MJ.
what did she mean by this
>but the origin of her creation was based on Gwen Stacy
But the character herself is not an elseworld Gwen Stacy. Just cause she's a blond Gwen doesn't fucking make her Gwen Stacy.
based autist
Peter's death wasn't the catalyst that caused her to become a hero. It was the catalyst for her shutting out other people. The conversation in Miles' room wasn't about catalyst that caused each spider to be a hero, it was about the job of being spider-man inevitably leading to pain and loss.
She straight up says her name is gwen stacy her character design and elseworld came out after the amazing spider-man movie made the character popular among normies. What the hell are you on about?
still doesn't explain the plot hole of her non reaction to her otherworldly versions of her supposed best friend. Do women not hold the same sort of connection to people that men do? Because she seemed very annoyed with peter when he almost had a break down talking to the alternate MJ (who also seemed pretty non affected by the death of her husband)
while that's true as far as spider people go it's uncommon. The only other spider-person that I recall with electricity powers is spiderwoman, and I didn't even't know he could turn invisible until I watched the movie.
I agree with you on the whole but I don't think she seemed annoyed with Peter. More sympathetic but firm. It's the closest thing to acknowledgement of the legacy of the characters' namesakes the film has.
No, women are fine. You just have an extreme trope bias towards human interaction.
>(who also seemed pretty non affected by the death of her husband)
fucking this. I TOLD you Felicia was best girl.
>You just have an extreme trope bias towards human interaction.
what the fuck am I reading
>She straight up says her name is gwen stacy
Gwenpool's name is Gwendolyn Poole, m8.
I thought you were talking about spider-gwen, nvm no Gwenpool isn't gwen stacy, though she did pop up for the same reason. Has she ever commented on her name and its relationship to spider-man?
It means you want people to interact in a dramatic way instead of naturally.
A person in Gwen's situation isn't going to express her baggage in ways that are convenient for you, the viewer, just because you want more Gwen x Peter.
I don't want Gwen x Peter though. And I'm not that guy. I was just blown away by how autistic that post sounded.
But she did react. Her telling peter about the MJ at the party not being his MJ and her also being careful to not mention the name of her best friend in the presence of the other spiders, I don't think even Miles knows about her friend being a Peter Parker. She chooses to disassociate them. They aren't the same Peter, and they certainly aren't the Peter that she knew.
Gwen's the most boring character in the movie now. Maybe if she expressed some baggage in some way, in ANY way, besides just saying she has baggage in her intro, that would not be the case. That doesn't require a creepy romantic subtext between a 40 year old man and a 17(?) year old version of his dead gf.
Or I've just been a fan of the series for longer than the running time of the movie and want at least some acknowledgement of the pairs history. The pushing her with Miles belittles both characters and reduces her to being merely a love interest again. At least when she was dead she had lasting impact on a story saying that she doesn't matter until she has the mantle or until shes in a relationship with a spider is stupid. The only "good" thing about it is its the best summation of why Miles is a non character who only exist to be black spider-man and Miles himself is an vestigial addition to his own comics/movies
15.
Miles is 15 in the movie so that puts her at 17
Oh ok. In that case bring on the Hobo-Peter x Gwen sex.
As great as that would be just a fucking moment between them would be enough. Honestly they should've kicked her outta the movie and put mayday there instead, having Miles and Mayday would actually have make the connection between peter bendis tried desperately to avoid for almost a decade
Miles is 13-14 in the movie. Gwen is 15 months older putting her at 14-15.
When did they say his age?
Yeah this is the guy, right here. This guy I was talking about back here . You were asking me who I was talking about, this is him.
>As great as that would be just a fucking moment between them would be enough.
This movie was pretty crowded. They'll probably fit in some kind of nod to it in a sequel.
Cringe
Superior Spiderman
The art book and the movie guide.
Do you genuinely not see why pairing Miles and Gwen is retarded or are you just successfully baiting me? The Movie was fine but would make no sense as anything but the 7th spider-man movie made with no heart or soul just cold hard marketing trends. I know that's all any of these movies are but since I;'m being attacked for being a fan of the series prior to this movies release you must understand why I'm a bit testy.
I could maybe see that for Miles but damn Gwen is mature for her age.
A group of white people supporting a black mans rise to mediocrity, its like they made america a movie than chopped out a bunch of frames
>Do you genuinely not see why pairing Miles and Gwen is retarded
Well it would be a bit of a stretch right now but if Miles matures sufficiently I suppose it could be made to work. I'd much rather see further development of this Gwen Stacy before a romance though.
>A group of white people
And one asian. And one grayscale.
You can't expect MJ to mourn 24/7 right?
user. It's not worth it. just wait for the sequel to this movie to come out if you want more Miles.
I genuinely see you for what you are. A child throwing a tantrum for three months straight. You are so much of a broken record it was possible to predict you showing up in this thread before you even did.
That is what I think is pathetic. Your sameness. Predictability. The way it is easy to manipulate you. It's such a phenomenal level of weakness, it's outright laughable.
But what about the fact that they're not from the same universe? Or the fact that this will stunt Miles growth making him prioitize his life as spider-man and not Miles which goes against the core of what made spider-man such a popular character? All he does is force peter out of his own legacy and people lap it up because you niggas don't want to see a character grow on his own or see actual black people get paid to create something that feels organic and whole to them.
Well I'd expect a period of mourning for a husband to last as long as a week actually yeah.
The funny thing is you're acting like you're less fixated and autistic than that guy.
I'd like to think it'd take more than two days before you'd have the strength to see his killer facing no consequences, but once again I don't know if women have that kind of compassion
Nigga you've been talking to me for a while
To be fair, they only promised it if the movie made 200 mill domestic, and I think they're still a little below that/
>I genuinely see you for what you are. A child throwing a tantrum for three months straight. You are so much of a broken record it was possible to predict you showing up in this thread before you even did.
>That is what I think is pathetic. Your sameness. Predictability. The way it is easy to manipulate you. It's such a phenomenal level of weakness, it's outright laughable.
new pasta?
>But what about the fact that they're not from the same universe?
Classic drama really.
>Or the fact that this will stunt Miles growth making him prioitize his life as spider-man and not Miles which goes against the core of what made spider-man such a popular character?
Well I see what you're saying here but at the same time wouldn't that serve to differentiate Miles from Peter, which is a good thing?
>dynamic
kek I like Miles but shit this description makes him sound like Poochy.
>The Movie was fine but would make no sense as anything but the 7th spider-man movie made with no heart or soul just cold hard marketing trends.
It's being slowly recognized as being the best Spider-man movie made but sure you dig that trench, buddy.
>Uncertain about his role as a superhero
he's fairly certain that he has no interest in building himself up and none of you are interested in seeing him actually grow into his shared universe
If i have to deal with Miles I just want them to shunt him into another universe in the books, if they're going to go with this being spider-man after peters dead thing than let him act on his own, the problem is as we've seen for the last 9 years he's uninteresting on his own and has nothing to connect him to the world around him besides the adulation he gets for being black and the name he shares with a more popular character. Also
>Differentiate him from peter
>Give him peters first love interest
See how that conflicts with itself?
Please don't post this again. I want to like Miles.
But she's not his first love interest. Betty Brant is.
Spider-Gwen has never even met ASM Peter.
>he's fairly certain that he has no interest in building himself up and none of you are interested in seeing him actually grow into his shared universe
>tfw NO EXPECTATIONS
>Differentiate him from peter
>Give him peters first love interest
>See how that conflicts with itself?
With the caveat that I'm still not sold on a Miles and Gwen romance: It actually doesn't. Peter never really "got" Gwen. She was taken from him. So even if the nature of the relationship wasn't at all different, it does differentiate them. Now I can tell you really, really like Peter and Gwen together so you probably see that as some sort of insult to the memory of the relationship, but it is what it is.
damn, ya could've fooled me.
I'm assuming Gwenfag meant love interest in the TRU WUV sense. IIRC He never hit that level with Betty.
I bet if Mary Jane "died" and was cloned he'd still love MJ's clone.
It's alright but Raimi's Spider-man 2 is still better by virtue of it being a movie thought up by a singular film maker. not a cavalcade of references made by 5 different directors 4 different writers and endless numbers of producers to capture the lego movie crowd and save a perpetually failing film studio. Once again it was good and I understand my seething hatred of what miles is affects my giving a complete fair shake but at the end of the day its a 7 or 8 outta 10
I want Peter Parker's granddaughter from Old Man Logan to be the villain.
Shut up 90's animated MJ, no one likes you.
> Raimi's Spider-man 2 is still better by virtue of it being a movie thought up by a singular film maker.
It's really not. Better, or thought up by a singular film maker.
I prefer MJ and Pete together funnily enough but I just think that turning her from being this important character in the history of comics to just another super hero pairing is a disservice to her Peter and Miles. Miles should get some sort of connection to his own world to build himself as a character but I don't think anyone actually wants that cause this is easier and requires less people getting paid for rights since both of her creators are dead.
An 8 out of 10 is so much better than anything we've gotten out of this IP in years and far more than anyone expected. It's a very solid start and I think it has great potential. Try to be open minded. It's clear that at least some of those directors and writers really wanted to make a love letter to long time Spiderman fans.
She seems like a professional what with her next day conference. She probably has the ability to compose herself for Public appearances if need be. Might be because of the modeling background. Also the only person would possibly know that Kingpin killed (or at least delivered the final blow to) Parker is Miles and he only reacted to the sound when he was climbing up collider.
Fair enough. Felicia x Peter a best fite me
If you're thinking like that then his first love interest would've been liz. But its more in the sens of if you're going to kill a man and take his name do you have to take his girl to? But I suppose thats better than the Spider-gwen peter turning into a school shooter but this last decade or so of shitting on peter and gwen just makes these small things a bit more palatable but it is what it is
More Gwen but she should be gay. She should date miles at first tho cuz most gay girls go through that phase. Both me and my gf did.
Would it be Miles taking Peter's girl or Gwen taking Peter's son? I mean given their personalities so far there's no way Miles is wearing the pants in that relationship
just wanted to show his age listed
being hetero or homo are both phases in girls, all girls are bi
Was there a gwenom with current Gwen? Cuz that would be great.
You're just obsessive. Gwen Stacy was a mistake from the start. Stan Lee's wife copy, inserted into a superhero comic as his girlfriend. Gerry Conway worked hard, an entire run, to remove her miserable existence. And the sooner she is forgotten and replaced by teen super-heroine Spider-Gwen, the sooner his vision will finally be realized. Gwen Stacy will die. And there's nothing you can do to save her!
It's just like mom used to say...
"When life gives you lemons, spray a web on it, and then punch it"
Everybody hates chris
Yeah Pete x Felicia has always been a great character connection and its a shame that slot never used the decade of no marriage to actually give them some proper closure but theres no need to bring up that terrible decade.
The more I think about the movie the madder I get, and I know its childish cause it wasn't that bad. But calling it "the best love letter to the franchise" While showing off the very character created out of disdain for peter seems disingenuous
So you don't actually care about characterization you're just looking for negative reactions? And you call me pathetic? This is sadder than I thought I could be
You're being ironic for fun right? It can be hard to tell on Yea Forums sometimes. I mean that's like saying we should replace Peter with Spider Chad instead of tweaking and updating because he was a terrible tropey 60's version of a nerd
>The more I think about the movie the madder I get, and I know its childish cause it wasn't that bad. But calling it "the best love letter to the franchise" While showing off the very character created out of disdain for peter seems disingenuous
You're too invested, user. I get where you're coming from but the perfect spidey movie will never exist, and Miles doesn't inherit all the sins of the crappy Marvel comics run in this film. Hell some of the stuff you're getting mad at hasn't even happened yet, and may not.
False.
Nice. But all I can think of is that guy who whitewashed all of Tracy's Miles stuff before.
Honestly though having Miles kill off peter is the sin of his character. Bendis showed there his disdain for the character despite writing him for ten years all in the name of "progress" Miles can't be disconnected from that decision. Its a shame that sony has decided to stop writing movies for spider-man fans because it isn't profitable but its for progress I suppose who wants to see the characters they love getting the ending they deserve when you can just kill them so black people can have a half a character who has never had a good story written about him in decades and can't even carry a single comic on his own
Please no timestorm Spider-Man 2099, adult Miguel is better.
The only irony here is that this guy makes me bring new material every time and all he can do is come up with the same
>it's focus tested!
>miles shouldn't steal gwen!
>she's his first true love!
>it's only an alright movie!
>i like mary jane too i swear im not a gwenfag!
>everything new is bad and i dont want to join the trend!
>so is this movie saying women don't have feelings?
>why isn't it this a gwenpeter movie!!!
I'm trying for over the top edgy today and I'll have to think up something for the next thread. Can you imagine being me? Having to react to him? For a WHOLE YEAR? Yeah.
SO fun fact I just loked it up and did you know Miles is now Marvels "longest" running and most successful black character? He has 100 more comics to his numbering than black panther and he hasn't even been in 100 issues yet, its pretty funny how he has all of that yet I can't even name a single story from his own book that had any weight to his over all story?
Peter is still here though.
If you weren't being ironic then you're worse than him. At least on some level he seems to know his feelings aren't entirely reasonable.
You are obsessed about me, I'm kind of honored. I've never had an internet villain before does anyone have any advice?
Yeah his comics are shit this is news?
To be fair, it´s likely the animators simply forgot to draw a hand unlocking the window from within rather than the window being open in the first place.
>Can you imagine being me? Having to react to him? For a WHOLE YEAR? Yeah.
Who's making you? You have issues, friend.
> At least on some level he seems to know his feelings aren't entirely reasonable.
Oh yeah, I forgot.
>i know its silly but i swear guys its all so tiresome
He does that one every time too.
Try focus-testing your material.
I genuinely see you for what you are. A child throwing a tantrum for three months straight. You are so much of a broken record it was possible to predict you showing up in this thread before you even did.
That is what I think is pathetic. Your sameness. Predictability. The way it is easy to manipulate you. It's such a phenomenal level of weakness, it's outright laughable.
>created out of disdain for peter.
This isn't a superior spider-man film user.
I'm aware of what I am and I do try to not be in every thread cause I know people just want to enjoy the character. The ones who start to bait about peter being to old normally is enough to drag me into any fight though
Very original.
...yet.
Peter is 40 years old and divorced, on what level does dating a teenager make sense to you?
I meant in the sense of Miles replacing him in the comics, there are people who will argue that Miles should be spider-man because of how long peter has been around and there aren't stories to tell with him anymore.
Let's settle this
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Well now that his movie, not only did well in office, but also won an oscar, he might find success in the comic book industry as well.
>he might find success in the comic book industry as well.
good one user
No, people argue that he needs to grow up so that he can become a proper adult, and Miles gives Peter an out to BE AN ADULT and MARRY because Miles can be the teenager (and later bachelor) other writers and readers want Peter to be.
You've just straw-manned an entire comics fanbase because the idea of anyone but Peter being called Spider-man is that upsetting.
Looking at the state of his current book I doubt it for the time being. But the nigga is like carol, he has unlimited chances while actual characters got the shaft. Poor Sam he is everything that Miles wants to be but he wasn't dark enough
>gives Peter an out to BE AN ADULT and MARRY
Why should he do that, that's boring
Miles doesn't give him that out since his origin requires peter to die. If he did give peter that out I would be fine with him but he was always intended to wholesale replace not be a protege. This movie showed that
>gives Peter an out to BE AN ADULT and MARRY
but he did that in the 80's and it worked out fine
Only to children
>Miles doesn't give him that out since his origin requires peter to die.
His origin doesn't require the Peter who everyone actually cares about to die.
>This movie showed that
Most of the movie is him being a protegé to Spider-Dad though.
Anywhere I can find this without shilling bucks
>but he did that in the 80's and it worked out fine
It didn't, some asshole woke up one day, his wife left him, his mother got sick, and he decided that it would've been better if he'd never got married. So Peter Parker never got married, because this asshole got to tell everyone in his circle that a bachelor Parker would sell more.
Is the autism hour over?
Why do Milesfags keep using this non-excuse, what's the point of introducing a "Peter no one cares about" only to kill him off and replace him with Miles who people especially don't care about. Also Ultimate Peter was an infinitely better character than Miles ever was.
DId you not see the movie, his peter dies. Did you read his original comic? His peter dies (than comes back to be revealed as a big asshole who was never a real hero) Miles has never been written in organically into peters life its always been cosmic bullshit.
Yeah but I didn't read those comics so it didn't happen and I don't care.
The only way to find out is for you to post Gwen being thicc
I mean I'm still here but I don't know when my villain will strike without warning though, I bitch about Miles he bitches about me and it'll all conclude in Sad Fat Kids #175 Retribution
>DId you not see the movie, his peter dies.
Yes but we got another one very rapidly and he was the best character in the movie.
>Did you read his original comic?
Fuck no, anyone reading Marvel in the last decade and some change just has a fetish for wasting time and money.
I'll post it, but I'm not doing it for you.
No-one alive refers to his Peter when they're talking about Miles letting Peter get an out of being a child. Because it is in fact ASM Peter that got put in limbo.
Good, but it's still a work in progress. We can go thiccer.
It makes very little sense why they latched onto that so heavily. Considering when they got rid of the marriage in the heart of the Ultimate run that was supposed to be peter being young. Honestly why did Bendis never try to write a new relationship for peter? Or at least double down heavier on the peter kitty everything he did always lead him back to MJ which you'd think he would've avoided the connection to be unique
>Honestly why did Bendis never try to write a new relationship for peter?
Who cares, it's Bendis. Most people don't view comics the way you do, as some kind of tabernacle of icons. They read ASM Peter Parker, they see a manchild. They want him to grow up. Slott told them "He can't grow up, people will stop buying his comic!" So they hear Bendis came up with a new teen Spider-man and they say, ok Slott, you can stop doing this shit.
And thank fuck too, because he has stopped and Spencer is making things work again. And now that Into the Spider-Verse is an Academy Award winning film, there's really no reason why Spencer wouldn't double down on the Peter Parker / Miles Morales protege relationship.
Hasn't everyone begun to stop buying cape shit comics period? Is the industry not in crisis probably at least in part because of retarded decisions and bad writing?
>Sinister Six Ocks
>not including superior octopus to pull the heroic backstab
I'd thwip her nip if I was a negro, read me?
Oh it's absolutely in crisis but it still makes money, even if much less so than before.
I have a friend who looks like she does in the film, I miss her desu
Good question.
Oh god Miles stop licking Peter's shoulder! You don't know where he's been!
He actually says "Brooklyn is not ZONED for that"
meat sweats
Really? I mean it works both ways, although I prefer KNOW
>boobsocks
No thanks.
I'd kill to get a gwenpool 3d model
Spidergwen will never cover your skin in her webs.
>you actually like this?
>not organic webbing
why would i care?
Because she still uses her pussy to cook it.
New thread, if anyone wants it
>looks at OP's pic
I think i'm good user.
Yeah this thread hasn't even hit image limit and we're still getting cute Spider-Gwens.
Dont forget that this movie could NOT have achieved it's academy award if it wasn't for people like this.
Based live action voter, we salute you.
Yeah fair, god I know 2d characters can't be real but when we getting AI that is like them?
its been an honor shit posting with you ladies and gentlemen, and I swear if you're still out there I will find you and I will make you love me
When Disney puts Dennis Villeneuve in a sweatshop during their rise to world domination.
But they'll just make them subscription based, you know that right? And keep "updating" them to appeal to the lowest common denominator, until they become more of chore than an actual companion. It's not worth it I say.
Im waiting for a 'her' type of thing, like in the film without the melancholic ending,
I would be fine with anyone in general, I don't get that connection with people, I feel lonely but that's usually alright after I see friends
Of course! And make sure to give him proper dramatic moments just so you can show of the utter stillness and stiffness of the 60s show style.
>I have a friend who looks like she does in the film, I miss her desu
If you see her again tell her to ditch the undercut.
>>boobsocks
wut
>he's still the least interesting of the Spider people in the film.
That's Peni, she's entirely carried by being cute.
I will, she lives just down the road a bit, she just hasn't been feeling too good, I haven't seen her properly in a couple weeks
She's dead. Breast cancer.
Monsutā-kyōju!
Yeah no.
In the original Spiderverse comic story, her and another Peter try to protect each other and talk about how either one had lost the other one. It should still bother Gwen and Peter too if his Gwen had died.