Disney Execs: "Alright user we need to introduce the X-Men into the MCU got any ideas?"

Something something endwar causes the mutant gene to appear by an unintended ripple in reality the gauntlet made something something

Dimensional merge as a result of Endgame.

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>Walt didn't sacrifice his life for this reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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no stupid, Disney didn't spent $80,000,000,000 to not make Avengers vs X-Men

SHIELD already disbanded in the movies.

we just do it, the same way we introduced Spider-Man and Captain Marvel. I wouldn't even bother telling the origins of the X-Men and Magneto everyone already knows it.

Walt would have loathed the MCU with a passion

Would he have been wrong, though?

I'm trying to think of how to bring up the idea of in universe parallel timelines in a way that you give it traction if not necessarily (You)s.

So have them come in from their time line or merge the timeline in the movie. Recasting Wolverine seems kind of disgusting. Shia Labour Wolverine anyone?

I anyone here believe the audience is smart enough to understand a nuanced "no good guys" scenario unless it's explicitely stated Earth Against Earth? Do you think that would be a good end to the world that hates and fears the X-men? That they fly the Xplain up toward MCU earth and fail in defending their own but survive on in on current Marvel cinematic u?

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Pay me and I'll write it, execs.

Where the hell have been the mutants be at it but it is though? Like they be sittin around but fiddle faddlin in the hood? Don't make it all sense.

"We call them metahumans and we treat them like other superheroes."

At this point, is it even possible to introduce mutants without unintentionally pointing out how contrived the whole mutie hatred thing is in a world populated with superheroes.

I mean, sure you could just say that people are afraid of mutants popping up all of a sudden. But I think it would be silly to base thier hate on a supposed new species. I think some people would view it as a disease that needs to be fixed; and see mutants as unfortunate victims.

Mutant Hatred is something that like Spider-man's powers doesn't need to be gone over again even if Mutants are being shown for the first time. That being said I would love to see an earth full of protesters lose to MCU in an Incursion battle.

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>House of M adaptation
>AvX adaptation but with cross universe shenanigans causing the X-Men to show up
>timeline change will make mutants a part of the MCU

Either of these

Start the movie with a splash page that shows all the xmen with a description including their names, code names, powers, and that iceman is gay. then everyone can fight for no reason

This would do it

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I could see X-men gaining a bad sitting against Captain America, the Avengers and Spider-man if they were to grant all their wishes like House of M did and then revealed that it was all fake. People talk about OMD being recommend but has anyone posted about how shellshocked Peter was after he had to give up his wife and child a living Gwen Stacey and a child I believe was named Ben after his lost uncle. Wow, just wow.

But Age of Apocalypse especially the X-caliber story where Gambit and some mutants go into deep space to steal the M'Kraan crystal seems to for best. I don't know why. Something about alternate timeline Fantastic Four.

Same. People hating mutants while loving the Avengers is fucking stupid. People can't possibly casually tell the difference between a mutant and an enhanced being yet they somehow are capable of doing that.

Not to mention people fearing only mutants but not enhanced humans is way too clear a distinction for your average human to make. People are scared of anything even slightly different from themselves. They'd fear them all the same.

Not to mention all the Avengers vs X-Men storylines are always beyond stupid in the comics in how they start and also how they go about resolving their issues.

It could be like the first two seasons of X-Men evolution. They keep their powers secret, and stay in the mansion. Then they are finally outed and people freak the fuck out.

X-Men:
Cyclops , Jean, Beast, Storm, Wolverine, Ice man, Colosus, Thunderbird

Brotherhood:
Magneto, Mystique, Toad, Rogue, Avalanche, Domino, Blob,

How about the wild mutants that are not a part of X-Mansion and the Brotherhood?

I have a quesrion:
When Disney buys Fox what does that mean for the contracts for the young actors for whole the beginning of their careers hinge on good ongoing relationships to the studio? For example, don't these companies keep their actors doing different movies all in the same umbrella company?

It's really not, it's actually a very good representation of racism. Mutant haters believe muties are dangerous BECAUSE they're mutants, like if being mutant makes you powerful AND dangerous. It's not just because they have para-human abilities.

It makes sense people would think people like Captain America and Spider-Man and Thor are "good guys", but distrust muties because "it's genetics".

>Mutants started showing up in WW2, but the numbers have always been small (think sub 100 have ever existed)
>Professor X and Magneto, have worked together since meeting to protect people like them.
>professor X runs the institute and uses his powers to cover up a mutants appearance whenever one shows up.
>magneto lives in Eastern Europe and works with professor x to find and smuggle mutants back to the school.
>magneto has a family in Sokovia, a wife and two kids. He thought they died in a bombing along with his wife, so he went to the states to grieve.
>the mind stone only awakens the twins powers. They were mutants and never realized.
>Magneto sees sokovia happen on tv and wants to retrieve scarlet witch, but professor x dissuades him, saying that with all the news coverage already, it would be impossible to cover up.
>after infinity war, magneto splits from Xavier with half of the mutants to live in the savage lands/Genosha because he was pissed that Xavier decided not to intervene.
>the x-men cast has the original team plus the giant size team while magneto has some classic brotherhood mutants.
>the snap and it’s fix is causing more mutants to awaken than usual, and keeping their existence quiet is no longer possible.

Also mutants live a bit longer than humans, so magneto can still be a holocaust kid. Also throw a scene with wolverine and cap together in the war.

How will they reconcile AoS Inhumans with mutants?

>tv shows aren’t canon anymore
There, did it

This is sadly what they're going to do or at least I have a feeling.

MCU supers ARE hated though. People blame the Avengers for collateral damage, they have the Raft as superhero Guantanamo Bay, AoS has widely-hated Inhumans, the Netflix Defenders are all controversial and illegal vigilantes, etc.

This goes ask the way back to phase 1. Hulk, Iron Man and Thor were all in direct conflict with the government and generally coming across as dangerous assholes right from the start.

Only Cap was beloved by the general populace, and he's now hunted as a war criminal.

You guys realize Disneys gonna fuck up the Xmen, right? Just like Star Wars and just like half the Marvel properties they already owned. I have no idea what anyone could be excited about.

You are making a lot of assumptions. The only marvel hero they arguably messed up is Spider-Man. Star Wars sucks because Star Wars has always kindof sucked.

First off, Avengers in seperate universe!!!

Second, Apocalypse happened in 1980s!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MCU X-Men are more or less guaranteed to be the Endgame end credits scene.

Question is, who would the Mouse choose to play Xavier?

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A Captain Marvel 2 film where it was revealed that mutants are a byproduct of scientists using a sample of Carol's DNA in an attempt to create a better SSS. Instead of it being a serum, it is an airborne virus that contaminated humanity's DNA for generations to come.

>>The MCU X-Men are more or less guaranteed to be the Endgame end credits scene.

You mean like a view into a parallel dimension/alternate reality?

I genuinely think it will be the same reality, and professor x has just been hiding them.

>The MCU X-Men are more or less guaranteed to be the Endgame end credits scene.

Why would they do that when there are still two Fox X-Men movies to be released? It would be more sensible for them to wait a few years after those before doing anything, so audiences don't get confused or turned off by an immediate reboot of the characters they know. If they're smart, the earliest we see them is the far end of Phase 4.

There are two? I just assumed they’d release dark Phoenix to let it die and go from there afterwards.

Here's what will likely happen:

Mutants will not appear in the same universe as the universe where most movies made by Marvel Studios about superheroes that aren't mutants take place. Cat people, Gargoyles, Bird People, merpeople vampires, werewolves, and other groups of beings will come into existence in the MCU. They will be called inhumans as a generic term. They might not come up much outside of mini-series set in the MCU.

Yes, I've also heard that common theory. But you see that would be retarded and just create a hundred different t plothiles.

The New Mutants whatever it's called that horror movie is coming out in August.

There wouldn’t be potholes if there mutants are so uncommon that they happen once per every 100 million people or something.

>It would be more sensible for them to wait a few years

b-but i dun wanna wait that long for mcu x-men

Never heard of it. Probably for the best.

I like this idea. Make mutants or inhumans super rare

Yeah it just seems like your generic horror movie but with "mutants"

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That was even dumber than I expected.

>I think some people would view it as a disease that needs to be fixed; and see mutants as unfortunate victims.
Please, no more homosexuality allegories. Disney buying Fox is the perfect opportunity to wipe out Bryan Singer's legacy and do something new with the franchise.

It’s the only way they could feasibly make it work. Otherwise the avengers would know what mutants are and would always be busy with them. Keeping the numbers low would allow professor X to make everyone forget.

I applaud them for doing something besides generic superhero plot #4

Have them take a backseat to Captain Marvel!

Have everything revolve around Captain Marvel and how awesome she is!

>do something new with the franchise.

As if they'll actually ever do something different than minority allegories and oppression-porn. Imagine the push-back they'd get if they tried to do anything else.

MCU characters officially have their own in-universe merch that kids buy and wear. There's people who don't like them for sure but they're not mutant-level reviled.

>para-human abilities.

Hmm

The word "mutant" is just a slur for super humans. Spiderman, Hulk, Captain America, all would get called mutants (by assholes/critics.) Even mad geniuses like Stark and Hawkeye are mutants to some. (Aliens like Thor are admittedly just as bad.)

Xavier and Magneto believe superhumans are the next step in human evolution. As in the comics, their teams include aliens, mutates, robots, mystical characters like Juggernaut, etc. Unlike the comics, everyone who was normally a mutant has a more standard origin origin (where we bother to spell out origins at all, many can be ignored); e.g. Wolverine is a government experiment, Professor X is a powerless genius who uses Cerebro to gain telepathy, Beast is a mad scientist who experimented on himself like Banner, Cyclops is an Inhuman, Magneto is a product of Hydra experimentation like Scarlet Witch is.

Speaking of Scarlet Witch, she finds Magneto persuasive after Civil War (plus they disaster the Hydra connection) and joins his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, possibly taking Vision and/or some fellow B-listers with her.

Oh, and yes, we recast and redesign. The old Xmen are old and retired, and the First Class Xmen largely suck.

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You should only applaud them if the new thing is also good. This is just horror tropes the movie.

>Time gets reset at the end of infinity war so that the snap never happens using the infinity stones
>they are destroyed in the process and their energy radiates throughout space time creating mutants

already precedent for this since we've seen the stones grant powers to both the maximoff twins and captain marvel

This could work, but infinity war probably has time travel.

They gotta use "I'm here to talk to you about the X-Men Initiative"

Gun control allegory would be excellent but will never happen.

They won't do that because it would make Professor X too OP. Popular X-Men and other mutant groups cause too many problems for potential villains non-mutants can face in their individual and team movies because it seems dumb in a serious live action movie for them to not all be on the same team unless there is sort of government problem preventing them from working together.

Mark strong maybe? I have no idea.

It makes perfect sense.
1. Because Professor X hides out from the public eye with the X-Men, the first exposure the populace has to mutants is likely to be Magneto or some other Mutant terrorist, making people see mutants as dangerous.
2. Magneto or whoever is likely to loudly proclaim they are the future of humanity, and "Homo Superior". People hate the idea of someone saying their group is superior to everybody, and the idea of being replaced by another group REALLY gets people's lizard-brain firing. Just look at the political shift in Europe.
3. Mutants are powerful. Sometimes not in control of their powers. People aren't going to know if the mutant kid in their neighborhood is going to go nuclear and blow up a school.
4. Mutants can be anywhere, and are everywhere. Some don't have obvious outward physical mutations, and look like anyone else. That increases the paranoia from the other categories.
5. It would already be in-character. The human populace already seems to fear Scarlet Witch for being different and having strange powers. Hulk is fundamentally biologically different and the world saw him rip up colleges, Harlem, and a large portion of Johannesburg, South Africa. The Avengers overall have faced legislation due partly to them being "enhanced individuals" and causing destruction in their fights. So now a whole group of strange, powerful people are going to show up in this tense environment? They're going to be behind the 8 ball from the get-go.

My idea was that there are sub 100 mutants in the world. Professor X and magneto pick them up when their powers activate and professor x does damage control by wiping memories. It’s not crazy overpowered and explains away the “other mutant groups” stuff.

Those guys that live in the sewers? I like it!

An easier thing to do is to do Alpha Flight and maybe Beta Flight in a new universe and create 'poetry' as George Lucas would say with some previous X-Men movies.

Some people that have been on Alpha Flight have some similar powers to some people in the X-Men team in previous movies. These people could be chosen to appear at least in the first movie. The first movie and then later movies would be constructed to seem kind of similar to maybe the first movie, a later X-Men movie, or maybe X-Men movies but also different enough that people like the similarities but don't think it's too similar. I think Marvel is quite likely to do something similar to this if they decide to make stuff about Alpha Flight.

Much of the movie would be filmed in Canada and hopefully get funding from the Canadian government.

Later movies and maybe mini-series and/or tv shows would be made and possibly Excalibur would eventually appear.

What? Some mutants blend in public

That's an origin movie. Or two, or three. No one wants that.

>how contrived the whole mutie hatred thing

>hey that guy has superpowers and could kill me at any moment with said superpowers
>I better kill him before he gets the chance

Not contrived at all.

We don't.

We all know Disney spent that much to make Donald Duck vs Predator, user.

>timeline change

After they deal with Thanos, they have to store the Infinity Stones somewhere. So they go Infinity Watch and split the stones again. They decide to hide the stones not just across space but time as well.

One of the stones (reality? power?) ends up in ancient Egypt. Post-credits scene shows the stone empowering humans, changing them into mutants over time. The first of course is En Sabah Nur.

Hell maybe make it the conclusion of the Kang the Conqueror arc/phase.

>they go back in time billions of years to destroy the stones safely. All the energy of the stones coalesce and become the Phoenix force.

"how about a show where they turn into babies?"

Better question: how are they going to introduce the fantastic four?

They can just make them a team of researchers experimenting with either reclaimed spaceship tech or portal shit. Their spaceship goes up, fails, and the rest is history. I really want mr fantastic to go full maker, or for them to at the very least use the same maker from the comics as a villain from an alternate dimension.

Soft reboot/retcon to the timeline.

X-Men are now a part of the timeline however they write them in, anything that is outright contradictory to established continuity is where the reality warping has happened due to all the snappening. Everything else is just there.

>Better question: how are they going to introduce the fantastic four?

Dude that's not that hard. They can always implement the F4 at any given time. The mutants is the more tougher question because mutants are an integral part of the Marvel Universe.

I'm having a gut feeling they will implement the Fantastic 4 first before the X-Men MCU movies come out. It'll give the writers time to figure out how to put the mutants in. Maybe they'll be a little creative and have the Fantastic 4 kicking off the X-Men somehow when they become mutants? idk

I think it’s almost guaranteed. We could see them as early as 2021.

>they have always existed, but in very small quantities
>but for some reason more and more mutants are appearing everywhere
>Roster is small and can be anyone, but I like the idea of "global" members that would emphasize how rare mutants are supposed to be
>Most of the education happening in Xavier's school is about how to control powers and not too much else
Here are some other ideas I'm not sure how good they'd be
>the kids sneak out and stop small-scale crimes w/o Prof X's permission
>takes place around age of Ultron so that instead of sentinels it's Iron Legion bots who are being sent in automatically when distress signals are made?
>Lots of focus on how mutants are causing chaos everywhere spontaneously and that the government is trying to keep all mutant shenanigans on the DL but Magneto and co are violently protesting against this
>It's sort of a battle triangle as the Brotherhood are trying to take down the government, the X-Men are trying to take down the Brotherhood, and the government is trying to take down both
I think my pitch is too bare-boned...

why do you niggers keep on asking this? either undoing the snap fucks the universe somehow and merge both universes together (mcu fox) or wanda goes full autist because vision doesn't get revived.

I think magneto should be the impetus for the X-Men coming out of hiding. That and the increase in new mutants. Say Magneto goes to save a mutant Charles discovered with cerebro, only to find them horrifically murdered because he/she was a weird-looking one. Cue WW2 flashback and “fuck the humans” and magneto leaves the x men with some mutants. I think everyone agrees in order for it to make sense, that mutants can’t be super common.

Or they always existed and professor X just didn’t let them interfere to protect them.

>Movie starts with a brief intro to the team
>Pretty much the same origin
>They started in the 60s
>But Reed is not a super famous billionaire, still rich but not famous
>Reason: he doesn't like the fame and doesn't publicize his inventions/discoveries
>They had most of their adventures in space and in other dimensions
>They got sucked into the negative zone fighting Anihilus (is that how you spell it?) or somebody
>The next ~10-20 mins after the intro is the "highlights" of the decades-long fight
>They come back to Earth and some kinda time dilation bullshit has them in the current year
>Now the rest of the movie is then getting used to the early 2020s world
>Reed actually feels like he's gone to the PAST because he feels the tech here is so primitive to what he had
>(Also he doesn't have any of his tech anymore)
I don't have any ideas on how the rest of the movie will be tho

I don’t really care for the time travel idea that goes around. It doesn’t seem necessary.

The power stone has a "surge" of some sort during a fight in End Game, perhaps while someone is trying to wrestle it away from and it accidentally causes thing

The surge of power radiates across the entire planet and causes powerful "mutations" in people

What a boring and unimaginative way to fuse the Mutants into the MCU. Also fuck the Fox X-Men.

I just wanted something that would explain the "why weren't they around before" thing.
Plus I like the idea of a montage of Reed smugly talking about how his Cosmic Toaster he built in one afternoon is leagues ahead of what this pathetic 2019 toaster is capable of.

>I just wanted something that would explain the "why weren't they around before" thing.

It doesn't really explain anything. The premise of how the Fantastic 4 came to be is really convenient. It's not as complicated as trying to implement the Mutants into the MCU. It's basically 4 astronauts who got exposed to cosmic rays in space and gained superheroes. It's really not that complicated.

Easy. Ant-Man introduced the fact that there was a cold war-era Ant-Man in the shadows. They could have something similar. Offshoot of the Manhattan Project, trying to get into the Quantum Realm pre-Pym, during the 60s. Or maybe young Pym was working with them (so they can tie them to something in the current MCU). Have the Quantum Tunnel in the Baxter Building. Then something happens and the building just gets shunted straight into the realm, presumed lost.

And then through shenanigans, they just re-emerge now/post-Endgame. Except long-term exposure to their specific area of the realm has given them powers.

Hell, make Mole Man one of the employees (janitor? construction foreman?) in the building that gets sent along with them but got to return but not to the surface or something.

The only problem here I can see is Doom and Reed. If Reed was young in 60s/70s, Doom will be way older if they're contemporaries. Unless he prolongs his age/life/youth through magic.

It is when that sort of thinking almost never extends to anyone else with superpowers.

A gene isn't going to factor into how likely someone is going to gut you with laser beams.

How about:
>hey, that kid looks like a geckg, let’s kill him
>hey fuck you for killing that innocent kid. I’m going to kill you all as payback
>breaking news, weird guy with magnet powers massacres town
>more humans hate and kill mutants because they are scared.
That’s about all you have to do.

That scenario still sounds wonky. The guy who wants to kill the gecko kid sounds like a sociopathic loon. More people would either want avoid, tease, study or take pictures of gecko kid.

Plus why would people want to kill all mutants just because of Magneto? Why wouldn't they just leave him to the Avengers and end it at that? For all they know, he's just a bad guy the good guys need to take down.

Mutans used to be very rare. Rare enough for Xavier to hide them through memory manipulation. Whatever happens after Endgame make them start popping up at a much faster rate.

Magneto could have brought his gang of mutants. That or he spouts off some speech about how inferior humans are how mutants will replace them. I don’t think it’s crazy to expect some rural town in Eastern Europe or something to string up and kill someone that looks like a monster.

This is essentially it. They start showing up so often that Xavier can’t keep up.

I made this YEARS ago but now they'll probably do it with Time Stone fuckery

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Do it where Xmen are an alternate universe thats opened to theirs and they're trading people around like candy at a rave between the two problematic alt-universes.

That still doesn't fly when you consider Loki gave a similar speech in Avengers about how humans were weak compared to Asgardians.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe a hick town does decide to do something about mutants. I still think the hatred should be as widespread and unbound as it is in 616.

Like, wouldn't it be possible that some people be would excited about possibly getting super powers; or even knowing someone who could become a new Avenger? What if there's an area where every mutation only ends up racking up minor property damage? How would they respond to mutie haters?

Holy shit this is actually good. Disney hire this guy

>Prof X and Magneto are neither enemy or friend
>Over the years (even through the main MCU movies) they kept a truce to keeping both of their secret society of mutants "underground" and not expose themselves to the humans
>One of the Brotherhood mutants gets killed in a freak accident by a human in fear of his life witnessing a "mutant" for the first time
>Brotherhood gets angry and reveal themselves as the superior form of superhumans to the public
>They go on a crime spree, along the way they recruit more mutants
>X-Men have no choice but to go public and try to explain to the humans not all mutants are evil

>A gene isn't going to factor into how likely someone is going to gut you with laser beams.
First, yes it is. Second, "anyone else with superpowers" is already on a team (let's say Avengers) have publicly proven themselves to handle their powers and use them for good. The mutie with lasers has not and therefore you cannot assume it is good-natured because, if nothing else, it is a version of human and humans are inherently selfish and evil.

What about someone who gets their powers from parents who aren't mutants, or someone who knows magic, or a guy who's secretly an alien?

They aren't Avengers; nor are they mutants. Can you assume they're inherently evil?

You may also know me for the several obviously fake Batman V Superman "leaks" that Yea Forums still fell for. I was young then, I'm trying to do stuff in the real creative world now, I hope I do okay.

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Reading this made me remember that I planned to make it into a full script for a grandiose fake leak that I PROMISE would have been infinitely more comprehensible.

Best idea is to have Mutants be caused by fucking with the tesseract and have been around for like 5 years in mass and then have the other older Mutants like Prof X and Mags be due to Hydra fucking with the Tesseract in WW2. Even better have SHIELD as Hydra be the cause of it before their fall. Start with the XMen already formed but staying in the shadows cause the whole mass hysteria and racism

Christ, I can see the Marvel cinematography on this. I wish they would be doing something half as good as this because this is solid shit that would actually revitalize it and bring X-Kino back.

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mutations just start appearing
its as simple as that

I think mutant hatred works better in the MCU. We already HAVE mutant hatred with the Sokovia Accords and how people know Scarlet Witch from when she detonated a bomb inside a building. It’s easily worked and I think it could be useful to have JJ Jameson start showing up in Spiderman movies around the same time to get a nice thematic “fear the powered” thing going over the whole MCU.

Keep in mind that was 2014. Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy had just come out. I had an outstanding optimism that Marvel would just keep making awesome movies forever.

If it's a hatred that targets all superheroes as well as mutants, I'll be fine with it.

But after Civil War and the Avengers eventually saving the planet from being dusted, I don't think people would hate them that much. So I don't the a "fear the powered" narrative will catch on past the X-Men.

Plus, with how connected these films are, it's going to get even more awkward when the Avengers don't do anything to fight against mutant prejudice.

I don't see the point of shoehorning in Scarlet Witch, who would fit better in Doctor Strange's movies, where she can use her powers in creative ways.

People who want Wanda to be a mutie are obsessed with identity politics. She's too mystical and not political enough to fit into the X-Men millieu.

Separate it to explore different sections of the mutant world

First movie is Storm, who is recruited by Xavier at the end

Next is original X-Men with Jean and Cyclops as MCs, showing them growing from teens to young adults

Next explores brotherhood with Rogue and Gambit growing up then teaming with Magneto

Then we finally get to Wolverine

Wrap it all up with the first X-Men movie that has the most recognizable team

>First movie is Storm, who is recruited by Xavier at the end

is it just me or would I rather have the entire team be in one movie?

That's actually what they did in Ultimate Marvel, making mutants infectees with a virus engineered from Wolverine's DNA.

Having the some of the Inhumans and Brotherhood start an "anti-human" coalition interested in evolving humanity to prevent another invasion of super humans would be interesting.

Don't.

DON'T!

DOOON'T!!!

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It's too late, all the idiots are already convinced that the MCU will do the X-Men justice.

The XMEN should never exist in the main marvel continuity.

They make no sense outside their own pocket universe. Marvel not having the film rights to them is the best thing that could have happened to the MCU.

Also, they suck as a metaphor for racism. They suck as a metaphor for homophobia. They suck as any kind of metaphor for real life bigotry. They are utterly inapplicable to the real world.

>muh mainstream audience ruining muh precious MAHVEL CAMICS

Fuck off

shoot if they have been planning this for a while they could have had some kino universe merge happen like when thanos did the snap instead of hearing some kind of metallic boom hear what sounds like a far off bird screech and in one of the x-men movies when pheonix does whatever they plan on having it do make it do the same screech and explain it as the snap and phoenix bs happened at the same time causing a merge which is why both groups happen and didnt know about each other before hand

>set in the 90's
>high evolutionary as the villain
>charles dies
>jean takes over as headmistress, begins using her psychic powers and cerebro to erase the memories of humans of mutant encounters, becoming a Men In Black type orginization

>Disney Execs: "Alright user we need to introduce the X-Men into the MCU got any ideas?"
Thanos reboots the universe before defeat

FUCKING EASY

This is what everyone would want.

She can still be a mutant and show up in a dr strange film. She doesn’t have to accept magnetos offer. She can just say no, fuck off, you are evil, and go back to the avengers. She doesn’t need to be a huge part of the x-men films. She just helps create a connection between the mutants and the MCU where otherwise they would be entirely separate entities that just happen to coexist.

If magneto comes out on national television saying “we are the homo superior, we are the next step in human evolution, we are here to replace you.” People probably wouldn’t respond well. Then you have the x-men come into the public spotlight to damage control. Just have beast or someone hook up with a “fan” in the movie who happens to be a secret reporter, beast gets recorded saying Magneto used to be Professor X’s partner and then the world goes full anti-mutant conspiracy.

This. The MCU succeeded BECAUSE they couldn't use Marvel's main cash cows (Spidey and X-Men) and so they had to work with the rest of their largely-overlooked roster of characters.

It would be ridiculously easy for them to get it right. X-Men is probably the lowest pedigree of all the Marvel franchises; it's so fucked and muddled and past it's prime. If they made it less convoluted (at first) and of at least a consistent quality, they'll be better off than they've been in twenty years.

Deadpool 2 already did it by playing with Cable's time machine, so it could be played from them.
Expect some dimension playing in Avengers Endgame.
The only problem would be Quicksilver already death in Avengers, but I hope Endgame give us some hadwaving

So you're really just gonna pretend Fox has never done X-Men well?

Reboot it with a good well payed director

Blue Hulk, meet Green Hulk.

They did it okay enough twice, and then they kept on ruining it. First Class was a glimmer of hope, but then they went right back to the same old shitty formula and wrecked it. Logan was great right up until the stupid clone shows up and it becomes yet another shitty X-Men movie. People are sick of them now. The trailer for Dark Pheonix that played before Captain Marvel got honest-to-god booed when I went to see it last night.

This song is gayer now than it was 5 years ago

The Last Stand and Origins are the only times it was a complete shitshow, stop acting like every FoX-men was trash. And even if they were how is Disney going to magically do everything better? What is it you're expecting from the MCU X-Men that you haven't seen before?

>>They've been here the whole time just not participating because they are assholes but some event puts mutants into the view of the avengers.
Literally this. It's really obvious.

Ideas like Thanos accidentally makes them post Endgame or universes collide are convoluted and retarded.

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It's retarded either way. I mean honestly
>>Mutants were always there you guys, they just never came up in the last 10 years
vs.
>>Mass continuity reboot because the MCU has no flex room to introduce them

>At this point, is it even possible to introduce mutants without unintentionally pointing out how contrived the whole mutie hatred thing is in a world populated with superheroes.
>I mean, sure you could just say that people are afraid of mutants popping up all of a sudden. But I think it would be silly to base thier hate on a supposed new species. I think some people would view it as a disease that needs to be fixed; and see mutants as unfortunate victims.
honestly I'd say just ditch the whole mutant persecution angle(outside of the usual small fringe groups who make Sentinels and stuff) and treat the X-Men as perfectly conventional superheroes, it'd actually be kinda unique at this point with them

Scarlet Witch says, "No, more mutants".

Why don't we keep X-Men separate? X-Men don't really fit in with the Marvel universe of Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron-Man, and etc.

The Fox version died because it had to carry around all the dead weight of all of the bad entries and crappy decisions. First Class was promising BECAUSE it was a fresh start, and then immediately they dragged it back into the main continuity and killed it again. I'm not guaranteeing that adding Disney will magically fix it, dolt. I'm saying that it's a clean slate and a third chance to get it right with absolutely no baggage. It's what they need.

Timeline resets.
Recast anyone who doesn't want to re-up their contract.
X-Men have always been there.

Recast EVERYONE. No hangers on, it will only confuse people. There's no one worth keeping anyway.

Say they've been on Genosha and Xavier has been using Cerebro to blind the outside world to them. Hell, say he's been doing the same for Atlantis as a favor to Namor. Tow birds.

This.
This alone could save the MCU from the forced Captain Marvel junk.

>mutants have always existed but were small in numbers so they flew under the radar/shield hid them
>mutant powers are suddenly exponentially showing up in the population
>most people know of mutants because all they hear is guy becomes mutant and uses it for evil/crimes or tragedy happens where the mutant powers kills a lot of people or causes some bad effect after awakening
>they arent individualized but are all classed and referred to as mutants

What if they threw an assload of money at him?

No more Jackman...

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>Mutants have existed for centuries
>shit like the Salem Witch trials and other historical events are revealed to be examples of what happens when mutants are exposed
>Xavier and Magneto have been quietly scooping up mutants under the guise of a school for decades before anyone figures out they have powers
>the "X-men" are just Xavier's task force who approach the new mutants and deal with shit if their powers start going out of control in the process or something
>mutants have been becoming more and more common each year
>with the Avengers shit going on, some of them, like Cyclops, have been insisting that they should actually be using their powers for good instead of hiding
>Magneto finally gets sick of hiding and decides to reveal the existence of mutants to the public
>during the press conference, Magneto begins blabbing about how mutants are the next stage of humanity and the press distorts it into "Mutant master race, we will replace you normal people"
>between the news constantly slandering him, normal people having anti-mutant sentiments, and Xavier being pissed at him inadvertently dooming their PR, he finally just goes "fuck it" and decides to found a mutant homeland by force
>Cyclops points out that they can either keep hiding or they can show the world they're wrong
>Xavier agrees and the X-men go to stop Magneto
>all this is done in the first 15-20 minutes of the movie as a prologue

This. Have Cpt Marvel go after Mystique for Fury or something then Rogue jumps in to help and boom problems solved.

Shit they could even bring her back in another movie as an antagonist looking for revenge.

Just make it Harry Potter.
You got the "magic" school, use it. Bring in Scott, Jean, Hank, Bobby, and Angel (Or Storm) and cast them "young", like 17 or maybe even 15. Have the audience grow up with them over the course of the movies. Recaputing the same rabid fanbase after the conclusion that is Endgame will be tough, but not if you can get that kind of investment.
Don't introduce Wolverine until the third movie.

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w-why are you laughing at me? I haven't even said a word yet.

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Recast everyone so that they can use Michael Fassbender for someone else. Does anybody have any casting ideas? I think Henry Cavill could make a good Cyclops, Charlize Theron as Emma Frost, and maybe Ralph Fiennes for Professor X.

i wonder how many people in-universe legitimately believe spidey is a mutant. it wouldn't be an illogical conclusion to draw.

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People would call Spider-Man a mutant in the ultimate universe.

neat

>This. The MCU succeeded BECAUSE they couldn't use Marvel's main cash cows (Spidey and X-Men)
You must be joking. They had freaking Iron man under their belt. He's practically the second most popular marvel superhero, behind spidey.

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Iron Man was a total nobody until the movie came out. At most, he was just that guy in the armor who got drunk a lot and had a forgettable cartoon.

The 90s really were a bad time for any Marvel character that wasn't Spider-Man- or X-Men-related.

Rogue. Get rid of Miss Marvel.

>someone forgot wolverine
Iron man was always B tier. Decently popular but not a household name like Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk, half of the x men, and the fantastic 4. You could also make the argument that daredevil was more popular. The mcu characters are mostly b listers that became a listers after their films.

Rogue sapping Captain Boring.

DoFP was fucking great.

Undoing the snap brings about mutants.