Is the MCU rebooting their movies? Captain Marvel pretty much retcons Captain America: The First Avengers, Thor...

Is the MCU rebooting their movies? Captain Marvel pretty much retcons Captain America: The First Avengers, Thor, The Avengers, and several other MCU movies out.

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How?

I haven't seen it but I assume. Iron Man being the first public hero, Thor proving we aren't alone, and Avengers showing to the public aliens exist

Thor and the Avengers doesn't make any sense now if we take what happened in Captain Marvel into account.
>Bruce Banner : I'd like to know why SHIELD is using the Tesseract to build weapons of mass destruction.
>Nick Fury : Because of him!
>[points at Thor]
>Thor : Me?
>Nick Fury : Last year, Earth had a visit from another planet that had a grudge match that leveled a small town. We learned that only are we not alone, but we are hopelessly, hilariously outgunned.
This is clearly not the case anymore. Thor wasn't the first time alien invaded the planet, nor the first time the Tessaract was used t build weapons.

Infinity War retconned Gamora's origin story.

Are you butthurt over the avengers name? are you retarded? The movie is garbage, ut don't cry over petty shit

Iron Man and Iron Man II being the first time SHIELD became a thing.

This is coming from the guy who got fake cards, dipped them in blood and claimed they were Coulsons just to motivate the Avengers

WAT

Your complex has reached full insanity, mate.

That's right, they didn't even have their acronym nailed down in Iron Man.
I guess we've finally hit that point when people who were around in 2006 aren't the target audience anymore.

Hey, if people keep asking if Warner Bros is abandoning the DCEU over recasts and references, then this is a valid complaint.

Except Colson really got stabbed. The cards are just symbolic

the Avengers were fucking jerks in this movie. They gang up on Thanos like schoolyard bullies. And then there's the scene where Thor is clearly reveling in impaling him.

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>Black Widow: Don't. Don't do that to yourself, Clint. This is Loki. This is monsters and magic and nothing we were ever trained for.
>Oops, did I forgot to train all my agents to deal with the thing SHIELD was created in the 90's to purposely deal with?
>My bad

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That's not necessarily a retcon. Kree and Skrulls are nowhere near the level of Asgardians

So the secret agent kept secret the somewhat minor encounter with the Kree empire? He kept knowledge of his Skrull killing trump card away from potential Skrulls Tony, Steve, and Thor?

>Is the MCU rebooting their movies?
They are probably going to make a new team with new actors and contracts. This also sets the option of going further with Cosmic Marvel
>Captain Marvel pretty much retcons Captain America: The First Avengers, Thor, The Avengers, and several other MCU movies out.
t. haven't actually seen the movie

But to us they're still an incredible threat. Especially Skrulls

>So the secret agent kept secret the somewhat minor encounter with the Kree empire?
Minor? Come on.

Skrulls are a fractured race who rely on deception, not full scale invasion. SHIELD concluded that Earth level tech was perhaps just enough to repel any Kree or Skrull invasion that might happen. But after seeing what ONE Asgardian could do, they realized that their only Infinity Stone was their best hope for Earth security, and thus reopened HYDRA's weapon stockpile

You're really bending backwards to justify this stupid shit.

They were able to keep the skrull/kree shit on the dl so they made an organization to deal with this kind of shit but on the dl. Thor destroyed a town then teleported out on a bunch of cellphone vids that went viral, there was no way to keep it quiet so the government's response was to get big and loud. No more secret black ops agents giving people payoffs or telling them it was a weather balloon. Now we're building space-nukes.

>SHIELD was created in the 90's
fuck off Yea Forums

Not really. I wont deny that MCU canon is bullshit that adapts/retcons just to continue. Just look at how many times Tony "quits". I just believe it's completely valid to think that SHIELD didn't expedite Tesseract tech until after Asgard made itself known to Earth.

People focus on Cap America, but it also shits all over Ant Man. A decade before this, Janet gave her life to stop an ICBM and everyone acts like "lol supers, what are they?"

Hey Iron Man, remember that time to stopped a single nuke from hitting NYC by carrying it into space......

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So then how do explain the Kree corpse over in Project T.A.H.I.T.I.? That was around well before Avengers.

Kree came before when they created the Inhumans. And there are no Kree that die on Earth in CM, they all get blown up in space

Nobody gives a shit what happens in the shows because they're one way canon that will NEVER be referenced in the movies

Literally is referenced in Avengers 2

What a barbaric mass murder.

What was?

You're missing the point entirely. The point is that Fury's line in that was a lie, even ignoring Captain Marvel. He was already well aware of alien life, prior to Thor coming to Earth.

He's a spy. He's THE spy. His secrets have secrets.

they needed just one more big score

Agents of SHIELD. The whole reason the Avengers even know where the scepter is in the beginning of Age of Ultron, is due to Coulson's team.

>Carol can survive space nukes
stronger than Superman confirmed

Minor in the sense that it was an extremely low profile encounter. Only like 40 civilians encountered 'weird alien shit'. The Kree planet glassing missiles barely broke through the exosphere before Carol blew them up. Compared to USO show Steve Rogers or Killing terrorist on T.V. Tony Stark she had a way smaller footprint.

>you always have a plan fury and there's always a damn train!

Where in Avenger AoU do they ever reference that show? The show however did reference and mention the site where the mind stone was being held. Like I said, one way canon reactive to what happens in the movies.

>they all get blown up in space
Goose devoured a few Kree. Perhaps he puked up a Kree corpse later, like he did the Tesseract (since that came out whole).

Carol doesn't go public and people don't know of any alien invasion

there's nothing in the movie that's an explicit big retcon.

I suppose retcon is just a polite way of saying flipping the fans the ,middle finger

How does it even do that?

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>btw an alien kitty cat did this

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I'm a fan and I didn't feel that way because I don't give a fuck how they came up with the name, Fury already knew in the first MCU movie, why would I question him?

A super spy lied about how he lost an eye?! What a shocking "retcon"!

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It is flipping the finger at people who liked the character though, which was my complaint

correct, it's your complaint.

How does it change literally anything? It doesn't change Fury's character in any way what so ever. Stop shoving sand up your vagina and looking for reasons to get pissed.

It makes him look like a bigger pussy than the one that clawed his eye out.

TWS also flipped the finger at people that liked Fury since it makes him look like a retard too dumb to realize he spent his life working for Hydra. I'm outraged!

Getting this assblasted over nothing makes you look like a pussy.

You see the nightmarish shit inside that cat? Quit pretending it's a regular cat

He didn't trust anyone with the secret.
You see, the last time he trusted someone a cat took his eye.

>the last time I trusted someone I lost an eye
>yeah, I meant a cat

well, what can you really expect from a group called "avengers"? The concept of revenge is in the fucking name.

He did trust the cast. So is it even an outright lie? I don't think so.

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>I haven’t seen it but I assume.

Yea Forums in a nutshell.

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Well its more like the Earth wasn't targeted by aliens after Captain Marvel so thanks to Thor's family drama Earth was back in the spotlight.

Stop being a fucking shill. Everyone was hoping one day we could learn more about Nick Fury badass days and get to see how he lost his eye on a combat, probably by a friend he trusted. Then CM rolls in and the dude is Carol's black sidekick who spends more time playing with a cat that claw him in the eye. The cat being alien changes nothing. The whole situation makes the character lame.

Everyone who's not a big shill defending this movie for reasons think so.

>SHIELD was created in the 90's
Stop trying to make sense of things you didn't watch at all fag.

>Stop being a fucking shill.

Oh cry me a river, faggot. Get over it. You're throwing a fit over literally nothing.

You probably haven't even seen the movie and you're just looking for an excuse to throw a temper tantrum over something.

>Everyone who's not a big shill defending this movie for reasons think so.
can you english that thought for us please? Try to not use google translate this time.

>Everyone who's not a big shill defending this movie for reasons think so.
People throw around the word "everyone" too damn much

dont worry, Scott has our backs

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Coulson is dead. Deaaaaaad

speak English

no it isnt

Captain Marvel has the same premise than Loki in Thor 1

She was taken away from her own planet by an invading force and brainwashed to their side. But this time, this is a bad thing.

No, that's just the show trying to taggle on with the movies by adding stuff after the movies were filmed

>That's right, they didn't even have their acronym nailed down in Iron Man.

They did, Coulson was just so by-the-book he uses the full version when dealing with civilians.

Don't waste your time, mouseketeers are unhinged today.

>Captain Marvel pretty much retcons Captain America: The First Avengers

You're aware Captain Marvel takes place after First Avenger, right? Not sure what is being retconned.

>Thor
Captain Marvel has nothing to do with Thor.

>The Avengers
Can you give some examples?

>and several other MCU movies out
So the MCU timeline now starts with Captain Marvel? Everything set after no longer exists in the timeline?

There are a few inconsistencies that are irritating. Forgivable but irritating.

The acronym SHIELD, was used by Phil at the end of Iron man but through out the movie he kept using a long full description of his unit, yet in Marvel, Nick just flops around his "SHIELD business".

Then there is the whole Cap and the Cube thing that does not seem right.

I don't think you guys should get so hung up on the acronym deal, in IM Coulson was using the full name for comedy's sake and because fans could immediately recognize what he's referring to. It wasn't an evolution of the SHIELD name, it was just a recurring joke

>phone poster
>disgruntled Yea Forumsmblrite
>demands you spend shekels to have an opinion
YIKES

There's already a camrip online you faggot
And yes, to have an opinion about the content of a movie you have to watch the fucking movie

superman survived 10 supernovas to the face once

Wouldn't be surprising if the new Captain Marvel MCU films following this just become a rehash of the first Marvel Avengers films, like The Last Jedi was a rehash of Empires.

Disney knows that people will lap it up and praise it for ingenuity, and now it's easy to say that anyone who disagrees is a troll. It'll also save a lot of money if they just reuse scenes on a greenscreen

Carol is the strongest superhero in all multiverses. Captain Marvel is just showing her when she's at her weakest so that people can relate to her and bond with her.

Compartmentalization

>Carol is the strongest superhero in all multiverses

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>Bruce Banner : I'd like to know why SHIELD is using the Tesseract to build weapons of mass destruction.
>Nick Fury: Because... well let me sit you down and tell you a deeply personal story about an event early in my career as a SHIELD agent dealing with forces you are unaware of, and aren't aware if they will ever return, and possibly distract you from the conversation at hand.

AoS and all the shows are non canon. In the film Captain Marvel Coulson calls the kree by name but has no idea what they are in the show.

pretty sure if you want to have a valid opinion on something you should watch it and not take what people on Yea Forums say as fact. there are plenty of places to watch it for free online, asscrumb

Pretty sure when they take the compound in the opening they specifically mention the Intel was given to them by an unnamed SHIELD team, and the Avengers still believed Coulson was dead so they weren't going to just say it was his team.

Plus there'd be no reason for Sam Jackson to do scenes for AoS if the canon was truly only one way. I mean for fucks sake they just lead into Infinity Wars in the current season. Carl Creel exists in both AoS and Daredevil which means the Netflix show is canon too. The movies not being obligated to mention the shows all the time means really nothing.

>Pretty sure when they take the compound in the opening they specifically mention the Intel was given to them by an unnamed SHIELD team

Nope. They say absolutely nothing about the intel. The movie basically implies that the Avengers themselves have been hunting Hydra installations between movies. Shield ceased to exist after Cap shut down Operation Insight and exposed Hydra in Winter Soldier.

>Are you butthurt over the avengers name?
I am because I know why they did it

they're right tho?
1899 was the founding year

He had just breathed in a shit load of kryptonite

But the Skrulls/Kree were getting killed with human weapons. So this isn't a retcon at all and he isn't wrong.

Thor/Asgardians are WAAAAAAAAAY above that shit.

So? Carol survived twenty Hollywood exec loads to the face.

>trusting anything (((Fury))) says

he was literally contradicting something already introduced in the MCU at that point, that the Tessaract was already used to build weapons way back in WW2

>I mean for fucks sake they just lead into Infinity Wars in the current season.
No they don't. All they did was name drop Thanos in a cringey way. The rest of the season has nothing to do with infinity War. They couldn't even show the snap.

If Carol is the best thing ever and the key to stopping Thanos, what the fuck has she been doing for 20 years while everyone else has been fighting Thanos and fucking around with the infinity stones?

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Learning how to use her powers. She didn't even go binary in this movie and yeah she was multiple galaxies away.

Same thing all the other new characters we will be getting was doing. Come on man you read comics.

Uhh...how? You do remember they recovered the Tesseract from the ocean, right? Sometime after that, Mar-vell got it, and then it ended up with Fury.

You'd think comic book fans would be used to goofy retcons after nearly 100 years of them.

The same reason why Odinforce, the Celestials, Nova Corps, or Supreme Intelligence hadn't; its a fucking comic book movie.

The cards are fake and they're his, they just weren't in his pocket. Really wasn't even thatxshitty of a move.

They don't care the future is female suck it up buttercup

You insufferable casual

She didn't do anything at end that Hulk, Iron Man, or Thor couldn't do. The one feat that stood out to me was jumping to light speed with the ship at the end. That was impressive by MCU standards,

I don't even give a fuck about fury, how did stark never hear about this previous alien contact when he hacked their files in avengers one?

>We
Meaning earth, learned that we are not alone. Fury himself knew, but 'we' as in the general public did not know.
Also Fury is a spy, he can be expected to lie sometimes. These are pretty minor quibbles compared to Fox's X-Men continuity for example.

She has the second greatest feat in the series below Thor taking in the energy of a star.

No one else did what she did at the end of the movie. Her power level fits right along where it should be int he MCU. Below Thor as of right now.

Hulk and Iron Man can't destroy spaceships, Thor can now that he has his super duper hammer.

His fault for getting close to a fucking cat, alien or otherwise those fuckers will turn on you for whatever dumbass reason.

Captain Marvel is a hugely Isolated incident. Nobody outside SHIELD, Rambeau and her Daughter, and Pegasus were involved, and the final fight took place over the middle of an Arizona desert. Thor occurred in a town square where there were onlookers, involved the Hammer pulling contest hicks, and directly involved non-military civilians.

>Post soi face

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What the fuck why? Why?! He was just dancin!

>Iron Man being the first public hero
That was never true in the first place. Have you even seen any of these movies?

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it's one of those "vines", probably staged for upvotes

He says "we're working on it" which implies the use of the acronym wasn't common yet.

Does it matter?
after endgame, I'm going to be done with these films anyways.

Disney must know interest is going to wane once Thanos is dealt with. I wonder what stupid shit they're going to shoehorn into Endgame to keep the money flowing.

Nah it's real. Bitch thought he was doing naughty gestures to her.

Yeah they're going everywhere with the narrative. The show, AoS established the Kree as blue good guys who knew or fought with Asgardians too. Not sure how far the Inhumans established the Kree.

Now the Kree are bad, it's a matter of perspective but going back to the past like this could have cleared the air as far as when Coulson and SHIELD and everyone first encountered the Kree and how Ronan came about and connected the dots behind all the scenes...

But it doesn't because most of these writers are incompetent and ya'll are explaining away their dumb mistakes and lazy lack of research. They played fast and loose with their own canon here.

It is. They just don't care about anything other than laughs and gags at this point.

I do too. It's a cop out.

Do you belive in the rumour that disney has a special version of infinity war 2 where they cut out captain marvel compeltey if she was not received well by the public?

you're thinking of the Revengers

Still can;t get over the fact that the skrull had an aussie accent for the whole film it was really weird for me as an australian

Lol, do you?

ya wot bruv, he was meant to be cockney

Why, would him having an American accent make more sense?
Or do all aliens need to speak with a British accent?

>she was multiple galaxies away

Weird, because she got there in like a week after she got space-paged.

Also, the events of GotG one and two dealt directly with massive galactic level threats in her area of the galaxy and even directly with Kree. Still a no show.

>and yeah she was multiple galaxies away.
She simply said the "pager" had a range of a couple of galaxies. And she's clearly capable of intergalactic speeds, which makes sense as she's empowered by the Space Stone.

I like bevenging!

>Also, the events of GotG one and two dealt directly with massive galactic level threats in her area of the galaxy and even directly with Kree. Still a no show.
She's implicity working with the Skrulls to get them safely resettled somewhere far outside the bounds of Kree-space. That's literally the last scene of her in the movie before the post-credit appearance.

GotG 1 and 2 both dealt with threats that would have eventually resulted in the death of all Skrulls, No show.

Avengers 1, Avengers 2, Thor 2, Doctor Strange dealt with events that threatened all humans. No show. There is no goddamn reason Fury would not magic-space-page her with the events of Avengers 1 and Avengers 2 in-particular. It makes NO SENSE.

Oh no, don't tell me NICK FURY is a LIAR?! WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO?!

Let's see; she's not in the Kree Galaxy in GotG 1, so she'd be unaware of Ronan's shenanigans.
in GotG 2, she'd either be dealing with the immediate threat of an Ego Seed on whatever planet she is on, or outside his influence and unaware. His entire threat lasts about 60 seconds.
Avengers 1, Fury has his team of Gods and Monsters assembled to stop the threat, same for Avengers 2. Does Fury ever learn of Ultron's threat to the nuclear codes before its neutralized?
Thor 2, Fury isn't even aware of this threat. An invisible space ship crashes in England and is resolved in 10 minutes.
Doctor Strange: Fury is explicitly never aware of this threat in any way whatsoever.

Fury seems content to rely on Thor and company to deal with threats at the point of Avengers; he only calls Carol because it becomes obvious the Avengers have failed.

How many people knew about Ronan wielding the Power Stone? Only the Guardians and Thanos, I guess? How would Carol get the information to rush back from wherever she was? And no one knew what was going on with Ego. The Dark World, you can make the same argument about the SHIELD, Iron Man or the Sorcerers not showing up in London either. Doctor Strange? Wong literally talks about the Sorcerers working in secret, away from the organizations like the Avengers. Avengers was Fury's gambit, his action in the the entire third act were a ploy to pull the team together and prove that they exactly were an effective defense force in Carol's absence. Age of Ultron had him putting his faith in a team that already did the job once.

Carol can't be Earth's babysitter, which is why Fury worked to form the Avengers in the first place. If you put more than a decade to form a capable metahuman strike team to counter world-ending threats, you might as well make do with them. Calling Carol whenever something goes slightly wrong, when you have other options on the table, is like pulling a WMD whenever a couple of buildings get blown up in the Middle East.

>Carol can't be Earth's babysitter

Avengers 1 and 2 both dealt with extinction level events that threatened the entire human race. One through a literal alien invasion. If he doesn't page her for those there is no reason to ever page her, ever.

There is no rational reason for Fury not to page her during both those events. Zero. There is no rational story reason that he would not immediately page her since he had no idea if his team could handle it, and in both cases it could have went either way.

It doesn't make any sense. And there is almost no way to write it that it does make sense. The only way you could is by having a few lines in Endgame where she explicitly states he attempted to page her in both those cases and she didn't get the page because of magic space interference reasons. But they probably won't even bother doing that because it's just as stupid. It's just a stupid massive plot hole through the entire MCU continuity that we have to just pretend isn't there. And it's a crack in the mirror that isn't going away. It's just a sign of things to come honestly. We had a great ride and got a decade of entertainment out of it, but you can see the fun times are coming to an end. Especially with Tony and Cap about to bow out and be replaced by guess who. We always knew this party couldn't last forever, it was too perfect.

in Avengers 1 he knew they'd just nuke the city if the Avengers failed and in AoU they had like literally an hour to stop Ultron

I'm glad to see you admit that it was a great decade full of great films.
Strange was also an obvious attempt to feel about for a Tony Stark replacement, I feel Carol is more likely a swap-out for Thor.
I'll wait til Marvel starts exposing me to bad movies before I start bemoaning the death of the entire enterprise. I'm very excited for Eternals.

>in Avengers 1 he knew they'd just nuke the city if the Avengers failed

There was a literal alien invasion force coming through an intergalactic portal. All the nuke would have done is destroy new york and then then more invaders would just be coming through the portal immediately after.

>in AoU they had like literally an hour to stop Ultron

They spend a fucking WEEKEND at Hawkeye's cabin while Thor was off on a vision-quest in Iceland.

Do you need a tampon for your bleeding boipussy?

It's comic book logic.
Atlantis had a massive high tech armada at it's disposal and ignored Zod's imminent poisoning of the planet. Bruce Wayne doesn't even seem to care about a 24 hour "Earth is Kill" deadline at all.

I mean, I'm not even mad really, just sad. But it's all expected so it's like something I'm already at peace with.

Anyone who saw what happened in Marvel comics during the huge diversity push and knowing the extreme politics of the people involved in both industries it's just a miracle we had the franchise stay so good for so long. I love what we got, I'm thankful for what we got. But it's coming to an end. Knowing what happened in comics... you just had to know that cancer would find it's way into the MCU eventually. It was just a matter of time. Carol is just like the same as the franchise finding a lump and realizing it might be sick and you don't know how bad it is but in your heart you know... it's bad.

Seeing what happened to Star Wars and knowing it's all connected to Disney... it just made the end even more inevitable.

If anyone had told me previous to the last ten years we would get an incredible cinematic Marvel universe that was just an amazing gift to fans with great writing and and a great cast and just incredible production values I never would have believed it anyway. So even though it's obviously coming to an end my main feeling is just gratitude for what we did get.

How many months do you plan to blog about a movie franchise you no longer have any steak in?
Or are we talking years here?

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Well I still to this day constantly argue with star wars fans about how terrible The Last Jedi was even though that movie sent me into brand divorce for SW, so yeah I mean for sure years. Probably like many many years to be honest. Decades?

Ok.
I myself found the movie pretty enjoyable, going again with a group of friends Sunday evening.
Enjoy not enjoying things, I guess.

>Enjoy not enjoying things, I guess.

That's literally like 70% of all all internet posting and probably more on this board.

>aliens come and some super hero has to fly around and blow shit up
I wanna know what you have to smoke to enjoy the same film for the 10th time

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Idk to me aos makes kree look like assholes, so it didn't surprise me they were bad guys in this

There is no enjoying things that are forced and bad. Hollywood is generally an outmoded bastion of entertainment now and access media is cucked, that's why the complaints grow.

I'm surprised Carol didn't monologue about tampons along with the other tacky Bette Midler checkmark segments of the film.

The worst was probably No Doubt during the fight scene, just awful.

We all know the reason she doesn't show up is because she was never planned in the first place, and woke-shave butch dyke Captain Marvel was barely even a thing yet in comics. I recall they were still calling Carol Ms Marvel and Warbird then.
It wasn't till a couple of months after the first Avengers movie when they rebooted her as Captain Marvel with Dexter Onions(You can't make this shit up.).

Censoring a man's actual name due to ppl's PTSD over the proper spelling of soi. This site, I tell ya.

Sometimes you troll Yea Forums(nel), sometimes it trolls you.

Holy shit shes hilariously overpowered. They supermanned themselves.

It still works fine. Prior to the events of Thor, Iron Man, etc. Earth didn't have many invasions from aliens. Fury probably assumed that Marvel was a unique case, and that their corner of the Galaxy was safe. Then comes Thor, a literal God of norse mythology, and the battle between him and Loki's robot thing wiped a small town.

He then realises Earth can no longer rely on their relatively small power levels to go unassuming any more. He also probably realises he can't just call Marvel over everything there's a problem, as she'll still have responsibilities elsewhere in the galaxy, and can't help every time. So he makes the Avengers, and makes magic space weapons.

>last time i trusted someone, i lost an eye
Thats a really ominous way to say you got your eye scratched by a cat.

I think they had her planned, but the fact the writers wanted to set the film in the 90's probably because the next wonder woman is set in the 80's just really blew a fucking hole through continuity just so they could use a few AOL gags and have No Doubt and Garbage on the soundtrack.

Does anyone have a webm of Nick Fury losing his eye?

have sex

She's way too strong for the setting, it's just dumb. She's ten times stronger than Thor in this scene. Fifty times. She just facetanks a hundred space nukes, flies through and facetanks the entire Kree armada while getting shot and laughing. She's way overpowered for the MCU and this is just stupid.

Strange could create infinite time loops and bullied an inter-dimensional conqueror into submission. That's how these stories go, if a character is very powerful or capable then the story finds a way to compensate and fuck with him/her. Take Vision, he's one of the most powerful Avengers and could definitely wipe the floor with everyone in Civil War. He was "too strong for the setting" but the story brought him down a few notches by giving him doubts and failings that made his power level (relatively speaking) irrelevant to the movie's conflict

Also I think it's pretty safe to think the likes of Thor and again Vision could already face shit like nukes. Thor survived the heat of a small sun for crying out loud

The Kree were never the good guys, the Asgardians were simply aware of their existence. Their also treated as antagonistic in the show and were even the main villains for the first half of season 5

>Strange could create infinite time loops and bullied an inter-dimensional conqueror into submission

He got taken out in under 90 seconds by a discount-magneto spongebob villian.

>Is the MCU rebooting their movies?

It's less 'rebooting' and more like 'ruining'.

And Carol got punched around by random skrulls. Neither situations cancel out their respective accomplishments, and at the same time neither such accomplishments dictate that the characters will never face trouble again

>She's implicity working with the Skrulls to get them safely resettled somewhere far outside the bounds of Kree-space.
Just for the record isn't about as far away from Carol's character as it can be?

>What is Nightmare Realm

Why not get a cyber eye, or grow one in a lab? The tech IS there. I never understood this about comics, and comics films.

Daily Reminder:
Kevin Feige Does Nothing Wrong

>Russos
>doing different cuts

Too proud

>flies through and facetanks the entire Kree armada
Didn't Thor did the same with Outriders' ships?

>Odinforce
The fuck is this? That's not a thing.

You don't understand the power of a star. That Thor scene is the most heroic shit in capeshit flicks since Superman turning back time. But I do agree she's a bit OP.

That one line isn't too much of a retcon. Especially considering Nick just doesn't want to mention Captain Toe Fungus to the Avengers.

>I haven't seen it but I assume
Then shut the fuck up dumbass

>The show, AoS
Why the fuck do you seriously still think the movie division gives a shit about anything that goes on in AoS?

Kek that face when she pushes the missile.

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You're an obtuse moron.

Fury is autistic about replacing an eye, its not the original one and could be hijacked by the enemy.

>no actual argument
go back to where you came from

yes it is? do you read comics?!

t. Squidward

Yeah, but it hurt him. A lot. He didn't laugh at it.

there is literally a squadron of ships and giant fucking lazers firing off within viewing distance of the planet. Fuck off with that, they didn't think this through enough and just wanted to ruin shit.
It's always a bad idea going backwards in the continuity of a series unless it's all pre-planned.

Have sex incel

Viewing distance that also conveniently happened to be on top of the american desert, or did you think the location was random? And it's not the modern times where you could argue a dozen or so of potential spectators might've whipped out their smartphones to film the happening, so even if there were unseen witnesses they'd most likely have an hard time convincing the world they're not nutsos that believe in aliens

And that's all ignoring that SHIELD can a will cover up shit

Maybe not seen sure but In a world with the Starks building weaponry and defense, they couldn't have detected the seismic disturbances or had satellites in orbit?

I understand what you mean but that's not how writing works, we can speculate dozens of ways and situations to out Carol and the aliens to the world, but none of them happened until the movies say so

>there is literally a squadron of ships and giant fucking lazers firing off within viewing distance of the planet.

They are still in space. You can barely see airplanes when they're at cruising altitude. You expect people to see spaceships hovering in orbit?

I saw the movie. it doesn't retcon anything, what small changes do exist are easily explained.
Why would Fury tell them about Captain Marvel, who was a top level secret, when he could simply lie and say it was Thor.

There's also the factor that in that scene Fury and everyone else in the room were under the influence of Loki's scepter, they weren't exactly being rational in their bitching about each other

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If that's staged, they're both shitstains for making such a shitty production. If it's real, he's a shitstain for dancing in such a pathetic fashion, and she's a shitstain for instantly going to violence. Either way, they're shit.

so beautiful, yet so deadly

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>Atlantis had a massive high tech armada at it's disposal and ignored Zod's imminent poisoning of the planet.
It's pretty clear that Superman stopped him before they needed to step in. They couldn't care less about the surface, if someone was going to wipe them out, then why stop him?

Wait hold on, don't leave goyim! See this time it has a vagina!

The shows aren't canon

But even if they were, the whole Kree human farm in Season 5 was pretty diabolical

Now that I think about it, Fury seemed to view Thor as a Carol stand-in

You guys do realize there is a difference between a nuke going off and the payload being prematurely destroyed right?

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Not them, but do you mind explaining the difference? I'm curious now

Well mostly it depends on how it goes about doing it. When it comes to intercepting missiles the attempt isnt to make the warhead go off but to collide with it and smash it into pieces. Destroying the delivery system and warhead without actually detonating the warhead. The explosion normally seen is from the fuel used to get to point A to point B, not from the warhead itself.

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Yeah, a soft reboot is coming where Captain Marvel is the new MCU star. Tony who? Rest of MCU will have at least 5 more CM sequels.