The Horrorverse

Judy ?

Yes. And I won't be talking about her.
twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/Judy

>the Ghostbusters in this world regularly have to fend scientifical rejects and power-mad fools trying to steal their tech for depraved reasons
>Egon actually had a few chance encounters with individuals like Chucky and Freddy Krueger when he was younger. He looks back on them with slight fear and revulsion, but not to the same crippling degree as the Boogeyman
>Ray wants to personally study someone like Myers or Jason to find out what fuels them and gives them their supernatural strengths

I think 2 kids

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>"Mr Vorhees, I'm assembling a team."

The thing vs Slenderman
Who wins ?

A team of slashers and monsters is such a great idea. Since we already have a Horror Justice League makes sense that we'd have a Horror Legion of Doom too. I think it would be Pinhead that gets the group together.

Add Candyman and Rawhead Rex and you'd be set.

What are we? Some kinda homicide squad?

Slenderman isn't in anyway shape or form organic. The Thing trying to infect it will just end with Slender stringing it all over the forest as some kind of twisted decoration.

Slenderman is one of the "DO NOT FUCK WITH" tier entities of the Horrorverse.

Pinhead is pretty much the only one I can envision leading them. Most of the others aren't really cut out for the role.

Freddy

Freddy has the intelligence for it, but he wouldn't garner the respect needed to keep them all in line. At least, not in the same way the direct acolyte of Leviathan could.

Slenderman is basically Lovecraft tier, people tend to forget or just not know about that.

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How powerful is It?

How does he stack up against all the other cosmic threats in the Horrorverse?

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Slenderman or pinhead level

Heres my rough power-tiering from the last thread.
>Leviathan and Morte Mamme (head-honchos)/JUDY/SCP god-tiers/Mary-Shelly Lovecraft
>Slenderman/Other Fears (if they exist)/DBD Entity and Dark Ones
>whatever the fuck Old Man Consequences is and Golden Freddy
>IT in its true form/Tall Man/Deadites/SCP Foundation at max-capacity/Pinhead and associated Cenobites
>all of the various Kaiju
>The Foundation at its usual powerscale and similar organizations
>Individual Slashers, monsters, and assorted heroes to fight them
>Everything else

wow

BOB wow.

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I mean, it's basically canon that the only reason why the multiverse isn't already a ruined wreck is because it doesn't really care. It's almost entirely apathetic to us and existence as a whole.

Here are some Multiverse shenanigans that would take place.

>The events of Anwer The Call (pic related) but the Horrorverse's Ghostbusters weren't there because they had to deal with Leviathan or Cathulhu again
>An Earth-3 type world where roles are reversed for monsters and survivors, like Freddy and Myers are heroes while Ash and Laurie Strode are the killers
>The multiple "end of the world" timelines like the ending of Cabin in The Woods, multiple zombie movies, Freddy taking over the world etc.
>The Littlest Reich world where Andre Tulon is a Nazi and some Multiverse shenanigans cause the prime Andre and his puppets to meet him and his Nazi puppets

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>An Earth-3 type world where roles are reversed for monsters and survivors, like Freddy and Myers are heroes while Ash and Laurie Strode are the killers
This is interesting

>SCP 096 breaches containment, just as a Deadite infestation is being dealt with by the survivors. Hilarity ensues
>The Entity ends up snagging one version of Ash Williams into its Realm whilst trying to take someone else. There may or may not be Necronomicon shenanigans involved
>The survivors end up tracing several of the evil artifacts and spells they deal with to some sort of mysterious factory
>The Dark Ones break free of the Mirror Dimension, but to their own surprise, there's already an apocalypse taking place. Several in fact
>Dipper and Mabel Pines encounter one Casey Hack and co whilst she's on a Slasher hunt. She decides to let them show her around a bit
>Dale Copper takes the nightshift at Freddy Fazbears pizza.

>The Littlest Reich world

Maybe have this be the world where all of the remakes and reboots take place.

Space only needs one force to keep them in check
>Rip and tear...until it is done

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Doomguy would be a pretty great counter to space-based demonic threats. I could pretty much see him causing the plot of something like Zygote to not be a thing.

Based
Slenderman vs it

>An Earth-3 type world where roles are reversed for monsters and survivors, like Freddy and Myers are heroes while Ash and Laurie Strode are the killers
And now I keep theinking how movies would turn out with that premise.
>Phantasm is now a slow-burning invasion of body snatchers type film where numerous young people are replaced by interdimensional abominations. And only one who notices is the cranky old mortician who has alienated the townsfolk a long time ago.
>The Thing is a scared thing out of time, who has to try and convince the hostiel organisms that dug it up from its millenia long slumber, that he should not be killed. Things seem to turn good when it remembers its shapeshifting abilities and turns into one of the researchers, but everything turns sour when two humans, Childs (who is bitter over losing the argument that alien should not be thawed out of ice) and McReady (who just hates it out of principle) murder the researcher it was imitating to frame it.
>Freddy Kruger is a loner school-janitor who died in a tragic accident, but is resurrected into horrifying dream-state unlife when a illegitimate, secret goverment project on psychic powers turns several schoolkids into dream-eating abominations.
>X-files is now a story of one tragic character trying to keep the influence of benevolent aliens in secret while coping with his developing lung cancer

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Ok here's my ideas on what's going on in the UK
>The Laundry has a "blue on blue" fire incident with Alucard and a Hellsing strike force during a vampire attack in Leeds
>Alucard wiped out several ritual combat magicians before The Laundry's top tier spellcasters arrived
>turns out the Royals and Parliament had their own supernatural defense teams in Hellsing and The Laundry
>due to both teams being incapacitated an outbreak of the Rage Virus begins in London
>the military initially contains it until the virus is reported in a small rural village
>the Cult of the Wicker Man believing the end is nigh, has enhanced the Rage Virus with ritual magic
>The Crossed are born
>while Alucard and Seras are deployed to the countryside to contain the Laundry sets up the largest containment ward they've ever done
>effectively the Crossed are banished to another dimension
>thousands are dead
>The Laundry presses Parliament for a bureaucratic merger with Hellsing
>denied on the grounds that Hellsing is a vampire oriented task force
>the Laundry can't argue it legally because they refuse to admit vampires are real, despite having several on staff.
Also the events of the film Dog Soldiers probably happened in Scotland but were contained, the Leprechaun from the Leprechaun movies is running around Ireland when he's not in the ghetto scaring rappers.

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>>Freddy Kruger is a loner school-janitor who died in a tragic accident, but is resurrected into horrifying dream-state unlife when a illegitimate, secret goverment project on psychic powers turns several schoolkids into dream-eating abominations.

Maybe he becomes the Freddy we see in South Park's Inception episode

>The Laundry presses Parliament for a bureaucratic merger with Hellsing
>denied on the grounds that Hellsing is a vampire oriented task force
>the Laundry can't argue it legally because they refuse to admit vampires are real, despite having several on staff.
Don't know what they were expecting. I mean, they hardly believe they're actually fighting demonic terrors from beyond despite not only facing dozens of them but even having one on staff.

I'm frankly amazed the Laundry has survived for this long.

I always figured that the Laundry used to be a much more agile group that has become bogged down over the years and easy living and excess resources have made them complacent. Now with Nightmare Green staring them down they're like a deer in the headlights and pretty much had to team up with some lesser evils to survive.

In the Horrorverse they're going to lose a lot of dead wood really quickly, Freddy Kreuger isn't going to wait for you to fill out your resource acquisition form while he's killing kids.

Strictly speaking here, Nightmare Green might be even *worse* in the Horrorverse than it would be normally. For the simple fact that such a scenario would now probably result in Leviathan, all of the Fears, Yaldabaoth, and other assorted nastiness to all break out at once.

>Jason survives almost being drowned to death and grows up to be the silent and reclusive but kind-hearted florist working at Camp Crystal Lake with his mom still working as the cook
>Things go wrong one year when an army of undead killers rise from the lake on the night of the camp's grand reopening and start killing off all the counsellors and kids in brutal ways
>it turns out that these undead killers are the kids who used to torture Jason when he was a kid and all went missing the year after
>it's revealed that Pamela killed all the kids and pushed their bodies in the lake for hospitaliIng and almost killing Jason all those years ago and now they're out to get her
>Jason steps up and now must protect his mother and the remaining kids from the vengeful zombies
>Jason goes down in history as a folk hero who some believe is real while others dismiss it as a myth

Based

Honestly, Pamela probably wasn't all that wrong to do as she did. Those kids were assholes.

where does columbine superman from that new movie james gunn is directing or some shit fit in

Also, the likelihood of the mass-breaking of the masquerade that happened in Nightmare Stacks is unlikely to take place in the Horrorverse. The MiB would be around to put an end to small-scale situations that might shatter it, and the Foundation could quite literally push a button and have everyone's memories erased and then retrofitted however they like.

Hell, things like BLUE HADES and the DEEP SEVEN aren't even really major threats anymore either. The Laundry doesn't fuck with them because they think (for reasons that would normally be justifiable) that humanity just can't beat them, but that isn't the case here. Not by a longshot.

You're talking about Brightburn right?

I'm honestly kinda excited for that movie. I assume Columbine Superman is an alien.

Where does Death from the Final Destination movies fit in to all this

Abstract demonic entity with heavy dominion over the concept of Death. It isn't *truly* Death itself, but it's essentially one of the few entities powerful enough roaming about Earth proper that it can be mistaken as such.

Yeah, he’s from space

so if we go in on horror vidya we got
>Umbrella Corporation
>Springtrap
>Silent Hill
>The Great Ones from Bloodborne
>AM
>Necromorphs
>The Ancients from Eternal Darkness
>The Heart of Darkness from Darkest Dungeon
>bendy
>Dead by Daylight's Entity
>The Machine for Pigs
>Parasite Eve
>The Splatterhouse Mask
>The Red Queen
>The 40K chaos gods if we wanna include them

I think as some herald

I imagine that the Great Ones would go out of their way to fight against the Ancients and the Heart of Darkness. They're actually one of the few cases where the eldritch entities are genuinely nice and benevolent. It's just that they're extremely alien and don't realize that mortal minds can't comprehend the same things they do.

Chaos Gods are almost definitely near the level that Leviathan presents. Not as truly powerful, but can get shit absolutely fucked if they manage to convert mortals to their side.

Should I watch any Hellraiser movie after 4?

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>shared universe
Shared universes are stupid, bloated messes.

They're more than a bit stupid though, and they have clear limits. They can't ever actually win because if they do, then they'll wither away and die in short order.

And yet, going by discussions we've had in the two last threads The Horrorverse seems to be the most consistent out of all of them. We managed to do what most billion dollar companies couldn't.

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does the dudes from 28 days later count?

Maybe? It's up in the air if they survived or not in that scenario.

>Dale Cooper investigates Freddy
Having anyone with even half a brain in FNAF would settle everything pretty quickly, since Dale wouldn't take that long to find and arrest William.
The ghosts raise a problem, but considering how they only stuck around to find their killer I feel like with William being brought to justice and Freddy's most likely being sued to hell and back, they'd probably move on shortly after.

The only one who might pose an actual problem is Golden Freddy, since he can probably do whatever the fuck he wants. But he seems relatively content to torture his father in his personal Hell dimension for eternity, so he might not care to ever bother with the human world again. We'll have to wait and see when Into Madness comes out.

Also the Walrider.

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Recapping an idea from earlier thread:
There's dozens of small towns all over America housing great evils. Some were mundane, these include places like Haddonfield, Illinois and Woodsboro, California; places where serial killers roam. A few more like Perfection, Nevada or Lake Placid, Maine; were a little bit out of the ordinary, home of strange and deadly creatures that could be brought down by gunfire or are simply left alone due to the danger they represent.

Others, however, either due to a history of bloodshed, an ancient curse or powerful entities deciding the town offers them a steady supply of meals; have been warped to appear as harmless to outsiders, with the great horrors they hold only making themselves visible once you step inside their domains.

Examples of these include:
>Silent Hill, Pennsylvania (Assuming it's an expy for Centralia like in the movie)
>Gravity Falls, Oregon
>Greendale, New York (or Massachusetts)
>Nowhere, Kansas
>Charterville (from Beetleborgs)
>Twin Peaks, Washington
>Wayward Pines, Idaho
>Derry, Jerusalem's Lot, Castle Rock and several areas of Maine
>Roanoke, North Carolina
>Dunwich, Arkham and Innsmouth; Massachusetts
>Point Pleasant, West Virginia
>Antonio Bay, California
>Potter's Bluff, New England
>Hobb's End, New England
>Amityville, New York
>Gatlin, Nebraska
>Cuesta Verde, California
>Elk Grove, Michigan
>Sunnydale, California

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Expanding to international territories:

Tromaville, New Jersey.
Vasaria, Germany
Sleepy Hollow, NY
Springwood, Ohio
Tokyo, Japan
Valentine's Bluffs, Ontario

>Dale navigates through the shifts relatively easily and manages to arrest William, although dealing with the puppets takes a lot more work
>Dougie somehow befriends the souls of the children and might even get them to find peace. He gets fired quickly afterwards
>Mr.C is the true backer of Afton Robotics and encouraged William's plans as a ploy to feed on more garmonbozia
>Richard is Scott Cawthon's tulpa

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One thing that's going to have to be clarified in this 'verse is that there are different strains of vampires. Some are mindless killers, some are almost completely human and can control their urges, some are basically just zombies who drink blood, some can't shapeshift, some can shapeshift into almost anything even inanimate objects, some become monstrous-looking when angry, others are monstrous-looking all the time, some don't even need to drink blood, some have to drain blood using needles or knives, some are basically ghosts.

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Jack Skellington did stole Christmas once. Unluckily for him, he caught the attention of Krampus; who, wasn't really amused by the idea of someone distorting the Christmas spirit.

Other ideas regarding Jack:
>Sam from Trick r' Treat is Jack and Sally's kid; which explains why he looks like a creepy doll-skeleton thing. His obsession over Halloween comes off him misunderstanding the importance of the holiday for his dad.
>Samhain HATES Jack with a passion because his ideals of an eternal Halloween differ from Jack's idea of scary but harmless Halloween
>Krampus's devil toys were in fact, leftover toys made by the Halloweentown inhabitants and engineered into way deadlier weapons by his elf minions
>Halloweentown is one of many different afterlifes/ghost dimensions; along with Beetlejuice's, the Peoplebusters' Boo York, Prime Evil's limbo from Filmation Ghostbusters, and the Phantom Zone from DP.

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fallout counts ?

>Halloweentown is one of many different afterlifes/ghost dimensions; along with Beetlejuice's, the Peoplebusters' Boo York, Prime Evil's limbo from Filmation Ghostbusters, and the Phantom Zone from DP.
Given the nature of Corbenic, pretty much every afterlife is linked to the next in some fashion.

I'd say wait until the movie is out (or at least, accurate spoilers) to see if it can be added.

Last thread someone mentioned one of the post-apocalyptic timelines involving Fallout stuff.
Deathclaws were engineered by the US Army after reading both Umbrella and Ingen's research on gene splicing; and the damn things got free after the nuclear war (which was caused by Skynet in here).
The Incredible Melting Man was actually the first case of ghoulification after an astronaut was exposed to space radiation.

But disregarding that... the Dunwich Borers, Ug-Qualthoth and the Krikvhenik or whatever it's called completely fit in the horrorverse. Same for the Fog Mother from Far Harbor (some mentioned radiation being almost supernatural when it came to causing mutation), that ghost girl from Nuka-World and the cannibal tribes from Point Lookout.

>There are those who the world will end in fire
>Some say in ice
>From what I’ve tasted of desire
>I hold with those who favor fire.

Devilman would fit nicely in this verse, a hunter of his own kind

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>Mekhane
>Good
He’s preferable to the alternative but I wouldn’t call that good.

The worst Mekhane has ever done was when his Church amassed some parts of him and Factory junk got stuck in it. And in the end, that wasn't really Mekhane. It was Factory fuckery using his parts to try and subsume everything.

He'll, it's even implied that Mekhane personally favors the Foundation over his own dedicated followers. Simply because the Foundation actually USES their tech to better the world, instead of acting like a bunch of toasterfuckers.

Yeah but his endgame is pretty much the mechanical version of Yaldabaoth. Its certainly not as terrible but the Foundation sure ass hell isn't gonna let that happen if they can prevent it.
Though while we're on the subjects of the SCP gods, should we only keep it confined to Mekhane, Yaldabaoth, and Scarlet King? Because I feel that otherwise we'd have to figure out where shit like the Cicada God and The Hanged King of Alagadda fit in which is more trouble than its worth; same for He-Who-Made-Light and He-Who-Made-Dark as well.

Someone I think might be cool for the head of the Slasher League would be Lucius. Now probably in his fifties he's not content to just rule Hell but without the direct power to bring about the apocalypse he begins assembling an army of monsters and madmen to take the earth. It would make a great catalyst for events and in the games it's canon he's directly responsible for Freddy and Jason.

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>The reason the world hasn't ended yet is because all the different end of the world scenarios get cancelled out by other beings
>The Entity finally manages to enter our universe but Slenderman denies it because that would ruin its fun so it gets sent back to zero
>All the seperate zombie outbreaks wipe each other out because they all originated from different sources so they don't see them as fellow zombies
>Kaiju are self explanatory
>Beings like Scarlet King are in a stalemate with good godly beings so they can't make any progress

>Yeah but his endgame is pretty much the mechanical version of Yaldabaoth.
At least there's some indication that Mekhane allows for societies to flourish in the world he creates, and for people to be people. That's more than Yaldabaoth, or really MOST of the SCP deities offer.

>Though while we're on the subjects of the SCP gods, should we only keep it confined to Mekhane, Yaldabaoth, and Scarlet King? Because I feel that otherwise we'd have to figure out where shit like the Cicada God and The Hanged King of Alagadda fit in which is more trouble than its worth; same for He-Who-Made-Light and He-Who-Made-Dark as well.
Well, the Cicada God was essentially what happened when a pagan god lost its cult and instead adopted the guise of Christianity as a means to survive. It's not particularly powerful itself, and can be starved to death.

The Hanged King isn't the kind of threat most are likely to encounter so long as they don't end up in Alagadda proper, so there's no real reason not to include it. It's a long-term issue, not one for the short-term. Same for He-Who-Made-Light and He-Who-Made-Dark. Especially in the latter's case as they're somewhat 'contained' in a fashion, and can't act as they normally would.

Welcome to the Horrorverse where it's just one big Mexican stand off

Could anyone stop them if they did this?

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SCP 173 on the shoulders of SCP 096

What could stop that!?

173 himself ironically. He'd just keep trying to snap 096's neck whenever 096 heals it off. If that super popular tale "Crunch" or whatever its called then 173 is completely sentient and actively enjoys snapping necks and it even chose not to snap what I assume is Bright's neck because he wanted him to suffer.
Also 173 may or may not be the avatar of some ancient and powerful being that waged genocide on an entire species of 682s and wiped 1/3 of them out which is why 173 is one of two SCPs that 682 was genuinely afraid of. The other being the cave that kills everything

We need more monsters on each other's shoulders

Is this limited to only american horror media? What about the asian ones?

Sadako and the Grudge exist here, amongst countless others. Sadako is more or less characterized as having a relationship with Jason in the Horrorverse. Nobody knows what Kayako and her family are up to. Probably depopulating a city or two.

Kayako is trying to seal a deal with Myers
screw that bitch Sadako getting a silent killing machine of a man

>The Splatterhouse Mask
>Him and the Necronomicon are old buddies
>During some big climactic fight the bearer of the mask gets decapitated and the mask lands right next to the book
>They start idling chatting while the fight goes on

I liked Deader.

People have mentioned Godzilla and Hellsing being part of the horrorverse. I'd add:

>Tokyo is in a state of turmoil since the mutants known as Aragami began to appear (Blue Seed)
>The events of Gyo took place in a small, coastal town. The mass invasion it's one of the many apocalyptic timelines.
>Tomie is present in the horrorverse.
>Shinigami hail from one of the different afterlife dimensions, and it's only been a few years since Kira began his killing spree
>Miss Fuchi and Hachishakusama are part of the same breed of tall demonic women
>Saya is somewhere fighting the Chiropterans, which are one of many strains of vampire
>Enma Ai can be contacted through her website, although the site doesn't seem to be accessible out of Japan
>There's a myriad yokai, spirits and monsters inhabiting the Japanese wilderness; although some have adapted to life in urban areas

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>The Spiral from Uzumaki exists and is currently afflicting repeated fates worse than death upon cycling instances of Kurozu-Cho without end

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He shows up. What happens?

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Depends. Which Ancient is he serving first?

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All of the nukes.

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That's just going to make a radioactive monster like always

Superman Superman is an alien, dude.

>Anytime nukes are used in the horrorverse all it does is make a threat large and shoot radioactive lasers
>Was only done once to Jason
>Results was the Atomic Voorhees

Someone was asking earlier about which book from The Avenger (as in the pulp hero and nothing to do with Captain America or Steed & Mrs. Peel) that made a reference to the Necronomicon. It was Demon Island, and it was actually one of the later stories published in the 70's, written by Ron Goulart, so while it wasn't part of the original pulp run, it's still an official continuation.

Forgot pic.

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Who is?

Would Wishmaster have a place in the horror verse?

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How does Cabin in the Woods work? The organization captures and contains fucking not-Pinhead. So, they must be insanely competent at dealing with horrors. And the audience is that universe's god.

I always just assumed that the monsters were made by the god and the organization just keeps them ready for use. Though in all honesty the Cabin in the Woods organization is just a less competent SCP Foundation. The foundation has a bunch of containment protocls that are complex as shit but these monsters somehow stay contained inside a box with a pretty simple ritual.

Also there was a question in the last thread about which pulp heroes might be in the Horrorverse. I was checking the crossover listings to see who had some sort of direct connection with horror or semi-horror related stuff. Moonstone had a text/illustration story about The Spider facing against a James Utterson who used Dr. Jekyll's formula. I think the implication here is this Utterson is supposed to be a descendent of the original James Utterson from the original Jekyll/Hyde story. And Moonstone also had a Spider story in which he encountered werewolves briefly in World War I which leads to his fight against a werewolf in the 1940's. Not quite a specific horror crossover in that second one, but still it and the Jekyll/Hyde connection make a strong case for him to be in the Horrorverse.

Doc Savage as far as I can tell doesn't seem to have direct horror crosses, unless you count Doc and his men cameoing in Farmer's "After King Kong Fell" or Farmer saying that William Harper Littlejohn aka Johnny teaches at Miskatonic University. And then there was also that fan speculation by Albert Tonik, where he suggested that McReady from the original "Who Goes There?" (the story that inspired The Thing From Another World and Carpenter's The Thing) as being Doc Savage, taking place before the pulp adventures. This depends on if you want to include him based on those ideas.

The Shadow I'm having a hard time finding direct horror crosses so far, unless you count that recent Batman/Shadow series, but I don't think that would be in this universe. Maybe the Dark Horse Ghost crossover?

So, how do these fuckers fit in the horrorverse?

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Yes, as far i know

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If you're talking about the 001 proposal, keep in mind even that fucked up desecration of Mekhane willingly halted it's rampage in a bid for the GOC to terminate it. Poor fucker WANTED to be put out of it's misery.

And...yeah, for better or worse ever since they embraced the SCP mainlist having an expanded multiverse Mekhane's been increasingly less "the awfulbad cold alien clockwork menace" and more "our beloved Omnissiah". The Broken Church is barely even a villain these days.

The Brothers Light and Dark are sadly very poorly expanded on, although I like to think that one SCP about the struggling beetles who claimed to once be contending deities are them after their dad got fed up with their bullshit.

His Redness has slightly more hype than the Cicada God, who was actually beaten eventually by the extermination of the Christian faith he was exploiting; that one SCP that's mostly just a fucked up account of how Scarlet's influence indirectly wrecked Clef's life by mutating/driving insane his reality warper gf, the 001 that proposes he is actually a sort of tulpa formed by the Foundation repressing the abnormal overwriting his old origins as a mere famine deity like a really twisted take on YHVH syncretism, and the 4002 which implies the Sumerian king Etana made a bargain with him that gave him humanity's anomalous true nature is counterbalanced by a Serpent's Hand article which says he's scared of provoking his aunt. Who is Yaldabaoth.

Oh, and let's not forget the actual 4000 "Taboo". Also known as the imprisoned, mangled Fae survivors of a Foundation genocide who steal names and warp reality with them.

But yeah, if we were counting the Cicada we'd be counting Thoth too. And Thoth was more weird and petty than truly horrific. And the agents beat Thoth. While being transformed into birds.

Would we count Ayesha? She'd be a weird situation where she was a villain in her story, but also super loyal to her husbando and stacked against the enormity of horror here she could be played as an anti-villain of sorts. Can't rule an empire that's been drained dry after all.

I think that's a little unfair considering there is at least one 3-001 proposal in which the Foundation fucked up from genesis so hard, it BECAME a SCP so horrific it tore a god-shaped hole (hi the Hanged King! Sorry you got cucked again after you got retconned into Yaldabaoth's feeding tube!) in reality which the old Administrator fills.

I'd say it's more accurate to call the organization a less ambitious version of the Foundation. A more positive spin on it has the Foundation as a whole, as the designated consort of Kedesh-Nanaya.

The more I read about the Foundation the more I wonder how it hasn't wound up like the organization in Cabin in the woods and taken the world with it.

I can see The Shadow having dealt with something supernatural considering his roots and powers, or at least damn close to attracting them.

Um. It actually has! A lot of SCPs and tales revolve around the idea of it finally fucking up. It's just that at some point the writers went from "there is no canon" to describe the mainlist SCP timeline to "there are infinite timelines, all this shit happened somewhere somewhen" to "all 001s are valid, it's just some are the 001s of specific timelines and others may have been ex-001'd at some point and reclassified and there may be multiple 001s just to keep everyone in the Foundation guessing because the Foundation is fucking paranoia central"

What it all adds up to, is the Marvel/DC smorgasboard of everything and nothing being valid for whatever tale a given writer wants to tell.

Something about the Entity
Jesus that's a big Freddy

>While being transformed into birds.
They weren't transformed into them. They WERE birds. Thoth turned all of humanity into literal birdbrains and thus only birds blessed by a rival deity could stop him.

The Entity is basically its own demon god trying to take over everything. Some Horrorverse survivors and villains probably get snatched up into its Realm every once and a while.

Jesus Christ

Black Lantern Jason Voorhees

The problem is that since a bunch of writers have different takes on the foundation in some stories they’re a nigh omnipotent organization that can contain everything while others they end up being bumnling idiots which is why the “there is no canon” thing was made.
So anytime someone asks a question that starts with “Can the foundation...” the answer is always “yes but also no”

How horrifying.

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Cold..

Well, all incarnations of the Foundation are canon. It's just that they're from separate timelines and realities.

What scp most powerful ?

SCPs don’t work in your typical fashion when it comes to power scaling. There’s not really any “strongest” or “weakest” SCP. You got some red ice that turns whatever it touches into more red ice, including multiversal gods but you also got self replicating cakes that could fill up the universe in like 500 or less days.

The labyrinth looks much more menacing in the movie. Too bad they blew it in the comic.

>what others think/would change to have him fit the DbD world.
Definitely chains with hooks to snag loopers.

They don't really work in the typical manner of power-scaling as says. You have shit like 3812, who ascends above narratives neverendingly to the point where not even its own author could remove it, but you also have things like the anafabula which erases all narrative-structure should it successfully manifest itself, initiating ZK-Class Reality Failure.

Hot

While I think The Spider, out of all the pulp heroes, is easily the one who most belongs in a horror setting, the major issue with putting The Spider on a crossover universe is because The Spider's is completely fucking batshit, with nearly every adventure ending in huge massacres or cities destroyed. And it's already hard enough as it is to explain how do all of those apocalypses or worldwide known events happen in this world.
But then again, assuming we are going with "The Men in Black/SCP/government just covers it all up everytime", then you could argue that's just how it goes with The Spider.

>The Shadow
The pulps didn't have straight up supernatural elements apart from the Shiwan Khan novels and even then they were rooted in real-life beliefs and concepts (albeit exaggerated). Even when The Shadow tackled concepts like ghosts or vampires it was revealed to be trickery by real people. There is one exception that is "The Devil Monsters" in which The Shadow fights actual dinosaurs, but it's best to ignore that story cause it sucks.

Just about every supernatural monster you can think of has appeared in the radio show, and even though most of them turned out to be frauds, there are quite a few episode where things aren't quite as clear.
There is one where The Shadow and Margo encounter an alien secret society, and the ending of that episode kind of implies that, regardless of whether or not the villain was an alien, there are more of his kind out there.
There is another episode called Drum of Obi that culminates with Obi himself getting the killer.

There was a Dynamite mini calle The Last Illusion that had a bunch of horror/magic references, and the plot at the end turned out to be The Shadow trying to stop cultists from fulfilling a dark prophecy Lovecraft made.
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There is one issue of the 2012 Dynamite series that has The Shadow face off children possessed by a primordial evil who takes the shape of a dragon. I'm sure that was ripped off from something.
The concept of a supernatural "Leviathan" was brought up in Si Spurrier's Dynamite mini but we don't talk about that.
Rasputin plays a role in some stories.
And there's the Twilight Zone crossover.

There is a real life urban myth of a figure reminiscent of The Shadow/Lamont Cranston appearing where his author used to live, and his author himself described it as a tulpa, but I'm not sure if that's of any use so make of that what you will.

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It's kind of nice that these threads manage to exist outside of october. They even got me in the mood to rewatch Chucky, Leprechaun and Puppet Master.

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October is when all the Ghoul Schoolfags come out. It would be awful for these kinds of threads.

We don't waifu in these threads
Just ship

Oh I know. The problem comes from the fact that we'd likely end up with a tide of waifufags trying to force their stupidity into the threads had we done something like this in October. They wouldn't be able to help themselves.

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>There is a real life urban myth of a figure reminiscent of The Shadow/Lamont Cranston appearing where his author used to live, and his author himself described it as a tulpa, but I'm not sure if that's of any use so make of that what you will.

The Gay Street Phantom! I'd seen the Alec Baldwin movie as a kid, but thought he was an original movie character. I first learned about Gibson, the Shadow's history and the Gay Street Phantom all from a tiny pocketbook called Haunted Places in 1997 (although copyrighted 1999). Let me dig it out...

I fear for this thread if it makes it to October

If we make it to October, we should hopefully be cemented enough to make it through the tide.

If it comes to that, we can simply tell them to fuck off or just ignore them if they start trying to shit up the thread. They'll probably lose interest eventually.

How does the Magnus Institute factor into things?

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Here it is guys.

I should also mention that there's a short story by Kim Newman called 'The Original Dr. Shade' which seems to have been highly influenced by this legend, it's about a Shadow-style pulp hero who comes to life (or possibly was always real) and wipes out a modern writer's attempt to make him politically correct. The funny part about it is that the skinheads who serve as Dr. Shade's henchmen in the story (implied to be reincarnated versions of his operatives from the pulps) act and dress more like modern ANTIFA. Dr. Shade pops up in a lot of Newman novels, sometimes as a fictional character, sometimes as a villain, sometimes as an unambiguous hero.

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This is truly adorable.

Why are they so perfect together?

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They play off each other well. And they're both silent killers who double as kids who died premature deaths.

It helps that she has psychic powers and he is pure brute force

I feel like theres a lot of ideas through around but nothing thats going to a end product.

Is this just a thought experiment or are we trying to do something with this?

Most of the previous two threads were general idea-spinning and figuring out what goes where, with some worldbuilding here and there. Keep in mind that this is still an on-going thing, and not everything is really set out. Things are going to seem like they're just ideas being thrown around because that's what it is, up until some form of consensus is reached regarding one idea or another.

that half a year away. if you want to ration the amount of threads we have. probably weekly or bi-weekly.

That we we can we don't run out of content to talk about, as well as collapsing under the weight of conflicting ideas.

where does the cabin in the woods organization fit in to this? Given that they contain multiple entities (some of which are pastiches of other known figures) in order to appease other more powerful beings from fucking shit up? Or is it too meta of an idea to mesh into the horrorverse.

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>The Gay Street Phantom!
Yup, that's the one.
I never thought there would be someone who actually discovered The Shadow's history through that, though. It must have been really fascinating.

I've known about Kim Newman through his Anno Dracula series but I didn't know about Dr.Shade.
>a Shadow-style pulp hero who comes to life (or possibly was always real) and wipes out a modern writer's attempt to make him politically correct
I guess this joke was written before we had a disastrously misguided attempt to reinvent The Shadow as a PC-crowd friendly character.
But then again it's not like The Shadow was really that much politically incorrect besides period-typical racism, and if anything he was one of the more progressive characters of his time.
>the skinheads who serve as Dr. Shade's henchmen in the story (implied to be reincarnated versions of his operatives from the pulps) act and dress more like modern ANTIFA
I know this is meant to be a pastiche and not actually The Shadow but I don't like the idea of the agents being reincarnated to remain in his service. It kind of robs them of their essential humanity.

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i think as a side project of some scp

A weekly or bi-weekly thing would kill the threads, especially when they're this young. The Horrorverse needs to be thoroughly established before we can think of a general timeframe for threads to be made.

>That we we can we don't run out of content to talk about
I don't think that's actually possible. There's enough stuff in the horror genre that we'd probably need several lifetimes in order to exhaust every possible avenue of discussion.

Hmm yes

They'd be one of those groups who think they're hotshit for keeping ancient world-destroying gods asleep, up until someone points out that they're being played like a fucking fiddle by said gods and are really just ruining the world more.

The meta aspect is something that the Foundation would probably quickly find out about in some way or another.

Like the SCP or the Ghostbusters, the Horrorverse organization is an alternate take on it; not the movie version itself.
They exist alongside the MIB, the BRPD, the Center and the SCP Foundation; but their only task is making sure the sacrifices happen in time to prevent one of the horrorverse's many apocalyptic timelines from happening. So, they're probably even government funded.

They're a necessary evil to ensure the world keeps turning. The monsters can be easily explained in the context of the world.
Some were caught by the many paranormal agencies, others were engineered with the purpose of being used in the ritual and a few more were even hired by the organization (in the case of sapient, human ones).

>The Hell Lord is one of many cenobites, captured by the Ghostbusters or someone else
>The Dragonbat is one of Umbrella's many experiments
>The giant animals are mutations, experiments gone awry or simply animals still undiscovered by science
>The Sexy Witches are a hired group of Nancy Downs copycats
>The Pterodactyls were one of the many animals escaped from the destruction of Jurassic Park
>Reptilicus is a cryptid of the same species as the Loveland Frog or the Scape Ore Swamp Lizard Man.
>The organization also employs werewolves, vampires and serial killers under a payroll or the chance of spilling blood

The Entity from Dead by Daylight is an Ancient One, given how it must feed off human sacrifice. The organization is terrified about what could happen if the rest of the Ancient Ones decided to break their pact and follow the Entity's more direct approach.

In the Horrorverse, the Cabin in the Woods movie is an instructional video on what not to do.

Pretty much this.

Cute

I can't get enough of these two together

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You could go with saying that the Spider's adventures were exaggerated for the pulps, or go with the idea that some agency gradually covered it up like what happened with the War of the Worlds in the 1800's.

The bodycount would mean a lot more ghosts in New York and it'd explain why there's even more noticeable phenomena when Gozer arrives and why they'd still be in business for a while.

Also I just remembered, didn't G-8 fight vampires, werewolves, and giant bats in his pulp stories?

>the Spider's adventures were exaggerated for the pulps, or go with the idea that some agency gradually covered it up like what happened with the War of the Worlds in the 1800's.
The latter idea doesn't really work because there is no way whatsoever someone could have covered the consistent and progressively more impossible massacres happening each time. One event is fine, but we are talking about over 100 of them, several of whom affect all of America and not just a city.
The former idea is the more plausible and it's the approach the WNU verse uses. Personally I find it to be a cop out but it's the logical option.

>didn't G-8 fight vampires, werewolves, and giant bats in his pulp stories?
Yup. G-8 was another batshit character, more straight up supernatural than his other contemporaries.

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>Horrorverse Avengers
So is IT their Hulk or Dr.Strange orrrrr...

Also who'd the the antagonist to this?
People just trying not to be killed?

How about Nyctalope?

ash, tommy jarvis , the girls from nightmare , and more

So we talked about a Horrorverse Justice League and Legion of Doom but what about a Loser's Club/Misfits team?

I'd imagine a Horrorverse misfits team would be comprised of some of the real bottom of the barrel freaks and monsters, guys like the Gingerdead Man, Killer Bong, Blood Freak, the Incredible Melting Man, the Nailgun Massacre killer etc.

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SCP is already too much of a clusterfuck to include in this. Ghostbusters is pushing it if you include the comics + cartoons too. How many fucking world ending gods/demons are we on now, 666? Keep in mind it arguable includes 40k Chaos gods due to Event Horizon.

What in the hell am I looking at?

Who?

Aw man, I thought this was gonna be a storytime thread.

it's some soldier

Even then, I think that is is more than possible to keep them scary and fleshed out. The Friday the 13th Remake may not have been scary, but I thought Jason had a powerful presence, and I never wanted him to win in the long run. You can have fleshed out monsters that are still bad. As Bellinger said, you just have to have protagonist characters for them to face off against.

Ash and Mia (the remake survivor) would be an awesome addition to this universe. They're roles would be the whole demonic, supernatural aspects, help with the world-building. Freddy meanwhile, is dealing with the events of FvJ, and is now trapped in Hell with Pinhead as his warden, building an army to invade the surface or something like that. Jason is at Crystal Lake as usual, maybe give him some kind of crisis, give him an arc as a character (there was the comic where a kid got stuck in Crystal Lake, and Jason ended up watching over him, play with that idea a little), maybe have him run into Leatherface like in the comics.

For Halloween, I have no idea, what to do with that, there are two seperate timelines to deal with. I would have the events take place after Halloween 4, and have it revealed that Laurie Strode is still alive like in H20.

So does this exist too?

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More than likely, yeah. In this setting it's probably the result of any number of things.

If you take into account Goosebumps, then the Shadow existing as a tulpa can be a thing. The Ghostbusters also fought with tulpas that were Cenobite expies, Craniac and the Vathak. There's also Ms. Chuckle Teeth from X-Files being a demon summoned to Earth and taking the form of a disturbing children's cartoon character.
What if the horrorverse Shadow isn't the OG one, but a tulpa that has managed to gain existence in the horrorverse and believes himself to be the real Shadow?

The idea of the SCP is funny in this context. Imagine them as comedic relief, just dying like fruit flies in waves.

PUNCH ALL SHARKS
PUNCH EVERY SHARKS
DO NOT GRANT MERCY TO SHARKS
THE SHARK PUNCHING CENTER WILL DESTROY THESE MONSTERS

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the real question is if Sharknado it's part ?

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Yes it was what started the Sharkpocalypse

Not familiar enough with the character to really talk about him, and I believe there is some distinction between the French pulp characters and the American pulp heroes

Those things seem to use the "character is real and fictional in-universe", and you don't really need to bring in the concept of a tulpa for that. The Shadow always lurked near the edge of meta, with constant references in the novels to the radio show and even the magazines themselves, and the existence of the Maxwell Grant character as the in-universe racounteur, published under the pretense of being real
Gibson himself remarked that the plots and characters seemed to take on their own personalities and the stories would simply write themselves, and he got to a point where he was living and dreaming the stories. This continuous effort for 15 years is probably how the tulpa was created in the first place.

>What if the horrorverse Shadow isn't the OG one, but a tulpa that has managed to gain existence in the horrorverse and believes himself to be the real Shadow?
I don't see why he can't be the OG one going by existing stories that already tie him to horror creations like The Last Illusion and the more out there Street & Smith comics, plus official Wold Newton publications like Tales of the Shadowmen connecting him to figures like The Phantom.
Then again, there's nothing really preventing him from existing in any universe as a real person, a fictional character and a tulpa, considering he's all three of those and more. The Shadow is as multi-faceted and mysterious as they come and he's very easy to insert in any setting.

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Considering how many kaijus exist, that thing is lucky to not have being eaten by Godzilla or Gamera already.

With how many Shark monsters lurking in the waters it's wonder Jason or other people are killed by drowning

G-8 also had a recurring villain named Herr Doktor Krueger (the bald guy)

I don't think we need to speculate on who one of his relatives was....

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>calling them sharks
We use the proper terminology here, boy. Call them "selachians."

A Horrorverse Shadow Tulpa may exist. There was his early stint as a purely menacing radio host, and in 1957, The Coasters recorded a song called The Shadow Knows which portrays him as a sinister, all-knowing fiend who will ALWAYS find you. It's also clearly not meant to just be a figure of speech ("The Shadow knows" was a well-known catch-phrase) because the song opens up with the character's distinct laugh:
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Most versions of Godzilla wouldn't give a shit about (especially not Legendary). Gamera is too busy dealing with the bigger threats to children and the world, but he'd definitely feel bad if he heard about what it did.

What order of appearance would each Godzilla be? I remember in a past thread an idea was thrown around that each one was around and that they were just the same species but the source of their power is what makes them so different.
Like how Showa era has the default “human nukes” which is why its more violent towards humans while Legendary got it from Geothermal vents which is why it usually keeps to itself since its the “default” for the Godzilla species so it acts like a regular animal.

Where does Manos, the Dark God stand on the godly totem pole?

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We'll have to ask Torgo

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I Am ToRGo
MaNOs is At tHE sAMe lEvEl oF pOWEr as LeviATHAn, but NoT As SmARt

Good Torgo, now get my bags

'Manos' means 'hands' (Hands: The Hands of Fate") so he may be the god of severed hands that empowers Thing, Jon Lansdale and Eric Landor's hands, the 'alien' force that empowered the Crawling Hand and caused Hillary Cummins to hallucinate he was being attacked by a severed hand.

Showa was probably first, followed by Heisei with the most recent being Shin (who is only vaguely Godzilla). Legendary was probably near the last of them to awaken and start moving about, but I chalk that up to him basically being a grizzled war veteran who's tired of all the shit he has to deal with more than anything else.

Other cases like my boy Zilla could've developed at any time in-between these Gojis.

Well yes, but I don't see why it has to be a tulpa connected to the Horrorverse, seeing as The Shadow doesn't have to be a tulpa to exist there (and again, he could easily exist as one too, since he is many things)

>There was his early stint as a purely menacing radio host
The WNU developed an interesting theory that places "narrator" characters such as the Crypt Keeper and Elvira as entities from The Dreamlands, either originating from there or able to cross realms.
One could argue that, because The Shadow originated as an omniscient narrator (and was one of the earliest examples of such), he is connected to The Dreamlands. Maybe the Hooded Shadow takes different avatars in different worlds and that's why he is Kent Allard in some worlds, Lamont Cranston in others. Ying Ko in one, John Harveson in another. A real person in one, a fictional character and tulpa in another, or all of them at once.

From description it seems as if the tulpa that haunted Gibson's apartment was actually Lamont Cranston, and it makes sense for Cranston was always a mask (even the real one).

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My take is that Zilla is a different kaiju and got mistaken by Americans as the OG Godzilla in the 1998 accident. Zilla Jr., however, is probably still running around and teaming with Godzilla and/or Gamera to fight evil Kaiju occasionally.

Literally cursed movie

>The Legendary kaiju are the oldest out of all the different godzilla/mothra/etc
This is why unlike the others they never really cared about humanity because they’re not avatars of nature or anything, just ancient animals that do whatever they want.
It’s also why they look the most animalistic out of the other kaiju and why Legendary Goji didn’t show up until the MUTO showed up which is because they’re natural enemies.

Well, Mothra is probably still a god of some kind. And Ghidorah is his usual world-fucking self far as we can tell.

Legendary Goji also shows signs of human-level intelligence like his predecessors, such as when he made extended eye contact with the movie's main character that conveyed some kind of agreement between them, or in how he actively adapted against the MUTOs during combat.

>My take is that Zilla is a different kaiju and got mistaken by Americans as the OG Godzilla in the 1998 accident.
That's canon though.

Still waiting on my bags

Sharkino

I guess we can't say anything for certain about Legendary kaiju until the new movie comes out where we'll probably get an info dump on them

The Gingerdead Man, The Evil Bong and their spawn The Gingerweed Man. And yes this is a real movie and it's called Gingerdead Man vs. Evil Bong 666

Where does the Satan from Godzilla in Hell fit in?

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Literally Kaiju Satan. There is a Hell dimension for Kaiju so obviously it would have it's own Satan.

Ruler of its own personal Hell dimension. Probably BTVS Old One-tier.

It doesn't really seem like it cares much for the mortal realm, so it probably wouldnt be a major bother.

It's there to keep motherfuckers from escaping hell on their own.

Honestly not into a universe trying to house so much horror lore, but I do love how frequent we're having horror threads now.

Some board has to do it. /x/ is too literal-minded, Yea Forums's taste in horror is uniformally garbage, and /pol/ hates German expressionism because it was done by Jews.

Yea Forums's a nice haven, since so many horror properties have been featured in comics and most capeshit has heavy horror elements anyway.

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Not like anybody else was doing anything with the concept.

>Pinhead petitions the Factory to start producing more and more Lament Configurations and placing them in strategically-chosen locations around the globe
>Endgoal is to break the divide so fucking hard that he can force a personal army of Cenobites into the world
Pick a team of any 5 best-suited survivors to put a stop to this.

Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Wolfman, Mummy, and a Gillman

>Yea Forums's taste in horror is uniformally garbage
What do they like?

>conquers some random planet then hibernates

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I think that's the only endgame for this. I mean, look at what fucking exists if we count all horror films.
>The Blob, which if it's weakness isn't exploited would grow bigger and bigger every day
>Calvin from that film called Life or some shit that is guaranteed to wipe out all life on Earth
>The Thing
>The monsters from A Quiet Place, which would fucking ravage the universe and everything in it besides maybe Michael Myers since he's too quiet
>Shin Godzilla, which according to lore if left unchecked would evolve to become an entire universe and assimilate all life
basically this shit makes no sense

I like the idea of Horrorverse, esp. after reading previous threads. Now I would love for some Horror-Men with Freddy, Jason, Tall Man and Pinhead being the Fantastic Horror Four

Yeah, G-8's adventures sound really over the top.

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>A giant skeleton
>Death ray and walking skeletons
>Living dead men roam the front.
>Giant bats fly once again
>Satan himself
>Giant plane-crushing fist in clouds

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Extinction, the destruction of society or worse is an inevitable future for the Horrorverse. Whether it be by the Ruinous Powers and their immeasurably long list of daemons assisting them, The Thing and it's unstoppable desire to consume all life into it, the immeasurably destructive actions of the giant monsters of the world which leave cities in ruins, or The Ancients and their war against each other to manifest in the corporeal realm. Many wish to fight against this truthful fate, some going by different names like Michael, Ash, Peyton, or Tommy, but in the end their efforts will be for naught, as they only provide small efforts in the true scheme. Leviathan and Morte Mamme will even try to stop this fate, as Leviathan requires humanity to persist, since he is the god of hunger and desire. But in the end, it will only be postponing the death of all, which truly fits the nature of a universe born from killers, monsters, and gods.

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What would happen if the Blob absorbed the Thing? Could the Thing assimilate it?
>Shin Godzilla, which according to lore if left unchecked would evolve to become an entire universe and assimilate all life
Wait seriously?

If you go that direction then Herr Doktor Krueger would probably have to be like a grandfather or grand uncle considering Amanda Krueger was born in 1907 in Ohio (and Freddy was born somewhere in the early 1940's).

>the White Lodge
The what now?

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I'm not qualified to speak on the majority of the horror genre, but I would like to call something to everyone's attention.

>Evil Dead
>Ash is considered a hero even by most viewers

The deadite 'god' could trivially be used to form a textbook example of how a Chaotic Evil deity interacts with it's champion or even how it would find said champion at all. How would any CE entity treat it's favored champion? Not with hugs and kisses. An insane deity would probably not tell it's champion that it is the champion at all. Send things to 'try to kill' the champion purely as a sign of affection. It's not a hit squad of demons! It's playtime with your favorite boy! Wherever the champion goes, destruction follows. Their own involvement looking as if they are fighting Evil yet only making the situation worse at every turn due to how they operate and their fractured sanity. The champion is the villain and no one is even aware. Not even himself.

It's hard to say exactly when, but there's a clear crossing point where Ash became Evil's favorite boy.
youtu.be/SOpcdJ_V5_M

>Ash and the Deadites share a moment of mutual understanding
Proceeding this, having cut off his hand, survived against the odds against that which can simply posses and kill him at will, and taken part in a recreation of a Tom and Jerry skit.

Based

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Actually, Leviathan is only called the God of hunger and desire. He legitimately despises all life, and wants to see if destroyed or assimilated into Hell.

If anything, he'd be elated to know that all life ended up getting destroyed in some fashion.

This theory is rather disproven just by WHAT Ash is. He's the Chosen One destined to oppose Evil, to oppose the Dark Ones. And this isn't just for one reality, it's for all of them at once, as there are many Chosen Ones throughout the multiverse facing down evil.

Ash is just stunningly incompetent most of the time.

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Here's your horrorverse video game adaptation protagonist

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Chara would be an ungodly nightmare to deal with. For anyone.

needs tits

Chara vs the horrorverse? I'm betting everything on chara

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They can't even really be killed, so they'd need a way to imprison them. Probably take away that knife and locket too.

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BRAAAP

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The ultimate domain of goodness form Twin Peaks.
twinpeaks.fandom.com/wiki/White_Lodge

She Hot

Good point

>Grrrrraaaah-bub-grrraaah, grrrr, arrrgh, bub, gimme a beer, gggggrrrrr, hrggggrrr,

>Wait seriously?
Yup. It's the reason why a lot of debates involving Shin basically pin it as the most potentially powerful of all the Gojis.

As for the Blob vs the Thing, I don't think the Blob is organic enough for that to work. It's essentially some really weird alien entity that doesn't function at all like how most life does.

I hadn't even thought of it like that. Interesting.

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Delete.

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Where did she learn how to treat with wounds?

Can he survive in the real world?

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how would fit the mist ?

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The Mindflayer can't survive in the real world until it has completely changed the dimension into something more suitable for it (i.e: extremely cold, little to no water, no fire-sources, etc). It would either die if he tried to make an abrupt crossing or owuld be in immense pain.

What are all the Lovecraft deities doing in this reality?

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With the combination of Laundry Files and SCP (amongst countless other things), they're probably dealing with the Cold Ones and other even more unspeakably terrible things.

How would scp stop them ?

It's just a breach of entities from the Todash. They simply need to find and seal the source of it.

There's also the fact that most of the entities can simply be killed with standard weaponry.

Being envious of Yuu-kun probably

Idk but it's cute

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Who /JunjiIto/ here

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youtube.com/watch?v=MXMu2Yo6-S0

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>Casey Hack ends up in Kurozu-Cho, whilst being recruited for an international mission
Maybe she'll be smart enough to escape.

I like this idea. In the end, the world's just going to die a slow and painful death despite what everyone does to try and prevent that death, It'll only give them a few more days at best. Really fitting for a universe comprised of multiple cosmic horrors, a million killers, and so on and so forth. Hell, maybe some of the gods try preventing the inevitable, since they require humanity to sustain themselves.

That's a normal Monday for the SCP Foundation.

They have powerful anomalous artifacts but prefer not to use them against other anomalous problems. Combining unknowns can result in something more dangerous than the original, and/or continuity problems when one SCP's article is edited or removed. They'd send in a few d-class to observe the results, then solve it with flamethrowers and APCs.

Man this had some fucked up parts

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SCP-1555 and its exploration log is a wonderful example of a building that wants to kill you. The feeling of being hopelessly lost, to me, is terrifying.

Delta: Base, am I close to getting out of here? [At this point, Base had withdrawn twelve kilometers of tether. At its maximum extension, it had spooled out 1400 meters. The extra tether was chemically and physically identical to the original tether material. This information was withheld from the final task force member to maintain morale.]

Base: YES

Delta: Thank god.

...

Delta: The hallway ends here.

Delta: There's one little pipe. In the middle of the floor, about three inches in diameter, five inches in length.

Delta: My tether is going into it.

Jason Vorhees: Frozen with liquid nitrogen and kept on ice.

Freddy Kruger: Contain everyone who he has "infected" and administer amnestics, thus neutralizing him.

Godzilla: Have the GOC shoot it and use magic on it until it dies.

Hellraiser: Contain the cube in a room lined with telekill.

Chucky: Put him in a tiny straitjacket and keep him tied down.

In 'Freddy Vs. Jason' he caused the deaths of several adults. He's not forbidden to kill them. He just likes killing teens.

I think the best way to contain Freddy is use Teenage D-Class, tempt him in and then dose the D-Class to forget Freddy exists. Krueger would be caught up in a maze of near-nothingness inside the D-Class' mind

I can understand all the others except Godzilla. Most versions of Godzilla are fairly benign and usually fight in humanity's defense. The only explicitly evil versions are probably Shin and Earth.

>Godzilla: Have the GOC shoot it and use magic on it until it dies.

if godzilla in hell is canon. He'll inevitably come back once satan can't put up with his bullshit anymore.

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I think the best part about this one is that despite the entity being outright malevolent, its sole goal seems to be to build a mouse cannon. It's the exact kind of crazy silliness that you come to expect from SCP stuff.

Is Godzilla good or bad ?

>goes to hell when he dies

Depends on the Godzilla. Showa ends up becoming a straight hero and friend to all children (though to start with he was kind of a dick), and Heisei follows suit, but it takes basically forever for him to reach that point, along with Junior being there to help him along. Junior himself is probably the outright bravest and most heroic of all of them, thanks in no small part to his mom Azusa Gojo being a major factor on his development and moral core.

There's also Legendary Goji, who's also heroic to a degree, but he's a grizzled war-veteran and is so damn old that he's basically tired of all the shit he gets put through. He'll still help out, but he probably won't be happy about it.

So how is the universe work in the greater scheme beyond Morte Mamme and Leviathan are they other powers in play? is there a neutral camps?

At this point, he became a Guardian of Earth

shit forgot pic, and I forgot to add. Most monsters/slashers come spawn from different means. Wether it be science, magic. A creature that a has a blood lust that needs to be sated. or something that is spawned from revenge.

How does the universe function beyond the struggle between good and evil.

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Looks like the map of multiverse of grant morrison

There's also Shin Godzilla, which is a straight up abomination that pretty much just wants to destroy

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*evolve
he was minding his own business until he was assaulted

the Necronomicon

>Frozen with liquid nitrogen and kept on ice
That didn't work

*Sniff sniff

>Hellraiser: Contain the cube in a room lined with telekill.
That would just end up being worse. The more that telekill stops the more the metal replicates and trying to contain the cube would probably result in an island of telekill

youtube.com/watch?v=oa3WTj_vuvc

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Well, we can probably say that the majority of the good powers exist within the White Lodge or have ties to it, whilst shit like Leviathan or Yaldabaoth and its Archons are more firmly tied to the Black Lodge.

As for neutral camps, there's probably some places where Good and Evil don't immediately go for the throat, but they'd be incredibly rare. Neither side plays nice with the other really. Doubt they'd set up proper neutral zones between each other.

As for the rest of the setting, I suspect that on a less cosmic scale, we'd probably have dedicated servitors or avatars carrying out the wills of their masters throughout the multiverse in their stead. And these beings would vary in both general appearance, age, skill, and overall power I'd imagine.

it's slither the same "thing" ???

Yeah, they'd have to develop some other methods of containment. That shit would be downright unacceptable.

it vs pinhead
Pennywise lives off of fear and Pinhead fears nobody.

However Pinhead is also really not as strong as everybody hypes him up to be. He is not a god, he is not the devil, hell in the original story he isn't even the leader of the cenobites (just the leader of the cenobites we see). I think it depends on the Pinhead we are talking about.

In Hellraiser 1 and 2, Pinhead really doesn't do much outside of his domain. When on Earth, he really, truly does fuck all. And when given an opponent, Channard absolutely tears him 27 new assholes.

However, when he becomes a chaotic megalomaniac in Parts 3 and 4, his power is insane, such as massacring an entire club despite being on Earth (and not even having the fucking box on him). Being able to blow things up at will, and even able to turn things into other things.

Pinhead, unlike other slashers, really doesn't show a consistent power level. In the end, the Pinhead bent on word domination would destroy Pennywise, especially with the box.

Eh, I don't see IT really giving Pinhead much of a care if he destroys Pennywise. IT can just recreate that particular extension of its being anyways.

If anything, I can see IT giving Pinhead a fair berth in most scenarios, given his connection to Leviathan. If it truly came down to a fight though, then Pinhead would win, but only because IT is an inherently lazy entity that can't be bothered to put in any effort if a happy meal of some kind isn't involved.

And I'm still waiting on my bags! For the love of god Torgo get on with it!

I think I remember reading that only Hellraiser 1 and 2 should be considered canon because they were written by Clive Barker.

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That's stupid, though. The only thing that might be explicitly non-canon is the reboot, for obvious reasons.

Whenever I think about scenarios like this the only thing I can really think is how the fuck would either realistically win

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Kolchak teams up with the Ghost Busters. Who do they take down?

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Chucky

Zacherley, Vampira and Gorgon, who rule late night TV, and now they want to rule Saturday Mornings as well. Kolchak thinks they're just a bunch of idiot horror hosts/kiddie entertainers at first, but then things happen that convince him they are more...

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bump

This actually makes reference to Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street, Child's Play, Friday the 13th, and Halloween, so they can connect that way.

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Also if Cassie Hack is in, it might mean these heroes used to exist in the Horrorverse, along with Fantomah.

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Yes

We rise

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someone is constantly streaming comfy horror films/unsolved mysteries episodes, its actually great and I love it

>Pinhead & Tall Man multiverse adventures never
gay

IT'S THE KILL SQUAD YESSS
THE LEADER: Freddy
THE LANCER: Jason
THE BIG GUY: Leatherface
THE CHICK: Samara/Sadako
THE LIL ONE: Chucky
THE ASSEMBLER: Pinhead
THE WILD CARDS: Pennywise & Micheal Meyers
THE SIXTH RANGER: Jigsaw Killer

VILLAIN: Jane "Eleven" Hopper, chosen one and defender of humanity

A bit stronger than Freddy and Micheal Meyers, maybe equal in power than Jason but without immortality

I can totally see William Afton taking control of the human children souls in the animatronics to build his own army/gang to wreak havoc in these zones.

Pretty sure Henry failed at his mission in the Horrorverse and the Ink Demon has escaped the studio along with Susie!Alice and Brute!Boris. Because of someone or something (possibly Freddy or Jason) they are forced to team up and create new Searchers by taking the Ink Machine out of the studio (the smaller one, of course).

What about the Neighbor?

>Calvin
No seriously how can that bastard fit into this? That asshole scared me to death in his film

I was really impressed with what Alan Moore tried - and mostly succeeded to do - with Providence. It had a meta-story which relied on reader's knowledge of Lovecraft fiction, and all theis prerequisited knowledge wasn't merely demoted into being a nod to the old master, but an evocation of an entire universe which the obvious plot invoked into motion. That is to say, the extreme violence and body horror were in their own right only there because the horror underlining the world at large never went away. It was Lovecraftian and Ligottian, and I do not know any Ligottian comics. The man being heir-apparent to HPL just shows that literary horror is as far removed from the comics and movies as possible, since no one reads it.

Pretty sure she'd enslave Frisk's body and use it as a vessel while mind raping his conciousness

Bigger question: What happens to the Party in this universe?

Edit, found a place for the Neighbor.
Since he is actually a good person we can put him as a member of the resistance against the monsters

calvin is ugly

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So with all your knowledge of horror what movie villain do you think you could actually survive against?

Branding. Hockey mask and machete, sweater and blade glove. Myers' mask and knife. Things were a lot simpler back then which is why these movies thrived. They kept doing well so they kept making them, and 30, sometimes 40 years later they're still around. Good looks creates longevity I think

Probably most of the typical slasher types. Maybe Freddy. I think a lot of B horror I could get by. I'm pretty confident but I ain't betting the ranch.

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Airboy encountered the Heap, the first real half-man/half-plant swamp monster in comics based off of Theodore Sturgeon's 'It', so that presumably makes It, Solomon Grundy, Glob and maybe Swamp Thing and Man-Thing canon.

Airboy also encountered Misery, a demonic being who absorbed the souls of dead pilots/aviation disaster victims and tried to cause more such accidents. He could be the master of the various plane-sabotaging gremlins like the ones from the various versions of Nightmare at 20'000 Feet.

Yes
Carpenter's The Thing is one of the best horror movies ever created. It can be very difficult to watch because the monster is so....well....monstrous, and the intense deformation of people and animals can make your stomach churn.

But those moments are actually fairly rare. The vast majority of the movie is following everyone in extreme paranoia as they know this thing exists, but they don't know what it is or how to stop it. It is aggressively bleak, and every quiet moment is filled with dread.

Seriously. Watch it if you haven't. It's harrowing. The practical effects were the best of their generation and still hold up extremely well, and the cinematography/lighting is about as close to perfect as you can possibly get with a film. It's amazing how a movie that came out so long ago looks so much better than almost all modern horror movies.

Hi Yea Forumsmrades I don't know much about horror because I scare easily is there a place to learn about our supreme lord Leviathan and it's lackeys?

>Hi Yea Forumsmrades I don't know much about horror because I scare easily

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Based

the thing , just fire and the blood sample

So how would fit Doom universe in the HorrorVerse

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don't visit Yea Forums often, but once i did and there was a storytime that i loved but can't remember its name.

it was basically space marines literally descending into hell and fighting demons, it was action/horror/comedy in that order but i don't remember anything concrete about the story. i know some of the demons could fly, and weird things happened with people not actually dieing because they were in hell, and some of the marines got superpowers towards the end. anyone can help me find it?

It could Be some doom comic ? pic related

i don't think so, these were like organized marine units, we got to know the sargeant and several soldiers, and there was a high command etc. i only know doom from the videogame and the 2005 film but it was nothing like those. also i can't remember if hell was a different dimension or a different planet, although i think they had spaceships. maybe it was both

>The only explicitly evil versions are probably Shin and Earth
Shin isn't evil though. It's just a shambling, grotesque force of nature too angry and powerful to die

Here cenobite.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathan

Doomguy is on a one-man mission to ultimately put an end to Leviathan. To that end, he goes through every permutation of Hell imaginable and some not so.

I always interpreted the Labyrinth to be one "division" of Hell much like how a multi-national corporation has divisions. Pinhead and the Cenobites ran his particular division which dealt with enacting both pleasure and pain in equal measure. At some point after Kristy travelled into the Labyrinth, Hell decided to get rid of its divisions and become one big free for all.

Pinhead is probably less amused with Hell because he's now having to share space and souls with all the other denizens of Hell whom he views as crass amateurs. He no longer has souls all to himself to play with for eternity.

That is why Pinhead's MO changed from simply dragging people to Hell for an ride on Hell's Extreme S&M Rollercoaster to either flat out murdering them or turning them into Cenobites. He doesn't want to share his bounty with the degenerates who don't know the first thing about how to properly inflict pain. It might also be possible that he is trying to build up his Cenobites in order to force a return to the way things used to be.

And there was also a crossover between Airboy and G-8.

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Yo, what exact issue is OP image from?

>Pinhead is increasingly annoyed by all these obvious lesser demons who don't know the first thing about pain and pleasure shitting up Hell
>he doesn't raise his concerns to Leviathan because that won't lead to anything at all aside from getting put in the punishment box

>KaijuTooAngryToDie.jpg

Clive Barker's Hellraiser (1989) #13

First, you must open the box.

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Zombies

Cute

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This really depends on the kind of zombie.

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This ship has a lot of art, Jesus.

>stands on a stool
Well, he's in a wheelchair now...

could godzilla beat ( if tries ) leviathan ?

Not that Leviathan my space cadet, but I'd be more interested in them communicating. Godzilla, go go Godzilla.

The box goes many places, get a Players Guide if you don't want to solve it wrong

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Probably not. But damn if he wouldn't try.

>my idiot student with no respect for her fallen mentors first teacher back on her blatherskite again, god save the Duke

Stop being a sore asshole about Goji Berry the Sciencesaurus and grow up Le.

It has it's own Pixiv tag

>screams in geometria

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Thanks m8

Cute!

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What's in the box!? WHAT'S IN THE BOX!?

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The furthest regions of experience. Pain and pleasure in equal measure. All guided by desire.

So it's not Gwyneth Paltrow's head?

If that is what you desire, then you must simply OPEN THE BOX in order to receive it.

Morgan Freeman won't let me

Sam would be such a horror icon if they gave him a couple more movies.

Yes

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Just how many end of the worlds have they seen?

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Probably 80%

Predator vs. Jason Voorhees
Jason actually has this. The in the literature the limitations on Predator vision is very well addressed; a room temperature corpse is well camouflaged against the predator. The Predators really only have thermal and xenomorph vision; Other vision types are a video game convention. There are numerous cases in the comics and books where humans create thermal shielded suits and have been concealed from all predator detection.

Jason has demonstrated a level of physical strength that surpasses the predator by a wide margin. In the comics he tears through a car and pulls human beings apart with strength alone. Predator strength is not much more than a really strong man. Jason’s strength is supernatural.

The predator, due to his honor code, will have to face Jason in close combat - sniping Jason is completely out of the picture; and even if it wasn't predator ballistics rely very heavily on tracking the targets heat signature. Predators have suffered decapitations, amputations, and fatal impalements against normal human beings armed with machetes on multiple occasions. Jason will not be defeated by impalements or slashing attacks from the predator; the combi-staff and wrist blades are not weapons the predator can easily dispatch Jason with, really anything sort of decapitation won’t even slow Jason down.

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A good majority, possibly.

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None of them, my knowledge isn't enough to fight even one of them I also need a BIT of muscles

>Jason actually looks like Sloth
I...should have seen that coming to be honest....
Gramps Fweddy tell me anodel one

the fist is good

Everything would be great for the Horror folks and then Sam and Dean Winchester would show up.

What is inside?

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myers , the dude is slow

What about the Upgrade Predator?

Think that's why some of them go rouge? Seeing the world end over and over again

youtu.be/Fy9uaWqUNa8

Heh

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so more like jason vs jason x

youtube.com/watch?v=pWjkGgRNix8

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Cute

Based

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the chara that should have been

I kind of don't want too.. if there a book I'd rather read it

Sam and Dean would honestly make things worse. They're like Buffy, but without anyone to reign in her worst impulses.

there is a book....

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A. I wouldn't yell "Hello?" when I hear a noise.

B. I wouldn't open a door if I heard knocking in the middle of the night.

C. I wouldn't move into an abandoned house.

D. I would get the hell out the place if I saw strange markings and symbols on the wall behind the wallpaper.

E. Common sense

I just read IDW's Goosebumps comics.

There's an odd amount of lesbianism.

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>slenderman
>anything
>uwt

UhMn wHo Iz TorG0 ?

Explain.

F.Don't mock the monster/threat as being a stupid myth.

This should always be a general ruling.

Friend: Hey, look! Let's go into this creepy house for the night.
You: I'd rather not. That's a stupid idea.

Friend: You're right. Let's stay at the Motel 8.

You: Nah, I'd rather stay in the haunted house

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Thoughts ?

Here's my take on it, I hate Rob Zombie's Halloween. And it comes from a guy who absolutely loves The Devil's Rejects and likes both House of a 1000 Corpses and Lords of Salem. Rob Zombie's issues don't come from his talent behind a camera because the guy is a good to great director who is hindered by his abysmal writing. Rob Zombie works for a film like Rejects because it perfectly captures his style and his abilities as a filmmaker. He's gritty, he's gory and he's violent. The problem is, those aspects don't fit something like John Carpenter's Halloween that plays with suspense and use of shadows and more subtlety. But I will give credit to Zombie for his homage to Argento with Salem, even though I'm the minority on that film.

The reason I'm excited for Leatherface is because they have the right people making it. They're taking French Extremity filmmakers to make a Texas Chainsaw story. Having the right people in place, makes a massive difference for how well a film would do, just like I wouldn't be excited for Ti West's Leatherface, but would be excited for Jeremy Saulnier's Leatherface.

>The reason I'm excited for Leatherface is because they have the right people making it.

But it wasn't very good.

That said, it was better than 3D.

Well yes..

I mean how would Jason deal with it?

You god damnit! Where are my bags!?

Has there ever been an Elseworlds concept where Superman was Doomguy?

That would be a pretty rad premise.

so what i get from this
cosmic forces of Good
>Morte Mamme
>The Great Ones
>Mantorok
>Malal
>The Light from Darkest Dungeon
Cosmic Forces of Entropy
>Leviathan
>The Ruinous Powers (including Malal because he's a chaotic fuckwad who changes sides like a dirty whore)
>The Splatterhouse Mask
>The Red Queen
>The Heart of Darkness
>JUDY
>The Entity
>Satan from Prince of Darkness (also the son of Leviathan)
maybe we need more fuckers to add onto good

i forgot the ancients on the forces of entropy

Malal is purely chaotic. He's only in it for himself and to see how many others he can bring down with him. And the Splatterhouse Mask, whilst kind of a dick, really just doesn't want to get enslaved to the Corrupted again, and will do anything to retain its freewill and individuality.

As for other forces of good, there's the Fireman from Twin Peaks, Mekhane from the SCP stuff, the literal Sun and his sister, Mary Nakayama, the Seraphim that blessed Doomguy, etc.

>forgetting that malal actually allied with the forces of good in what little warhammer comics he was in just because he's chaotic
Also add The Sleeper to Entropy. Maybe make Malal a more "Neutral" entity that's in it only for his own gain, a true wild card compared to the others.

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Don't forget Manos!

Cosmic Forces of Good
>Morte Mamme
>The Great Ones
>Mantorok
>The Fireman
>Mekhane
>The Terror Mask
>Doomguy's Seraphim
>The Light from Darkest Dungeon
Cosmic Forces of Entropy
>Leviathan
>The Ruinous Powers (second strongest next to Leviathan)
>The Red Queen
>The Heart of Darkness
>JUDY
>King Ghidorah
>The Entity
>The Ancients
>Satan from Prince of Darkness (also the son of Leviathan)
>The Sleeper
>Manos
???
>Malal

so the necronomixon is neutral ?

I'd say that JUDY and the Entity are overall more powerful than the Big Four. Maybe Yaldabaoth too if we include it. But JUDY doesn't give two shits about the mortal world, the Entity can't interact with the universes it reaches into in any major way and builds up power too slowly, and Yaldabaoth has been eternally cockblocked by Mekhane.

There's also the Powers from the Magnus Archive, who have the ultimate goal of making the universe into reflections of themselves, but have the same problems that the Entity has. Not to mention all the infighting.

If we're going with the Necronomicon being sentient then it's a violent and evil thing but I doubt it actually cares about doing good or bad. After being the weapons of the Dark Ones it probably would like some sort of freedom.

The Terror Mask from Splatterhouse?

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The very same. An absolute asshole, and will probably stab you in the back when all's said and done, but he's on your side for as long as it takes to fuck over the Corrupted.

Oh ok when you put it like that I guess I can see the choice to put him with the good guys.

the ruinous powers are literally beyond the comprehension of time and space, the only likely thing making them below leviathan is that they're trapped in the void and need to wait for mortals to worship them to get shit done, while leviathan can interact more directly AND is stronger than them due to the possibility of slaanesh just empowering leviathan, and their constant infighting keeping them from annihilating everything.
hell, the time slaanesh was birthed into existence he ate an entire fucking pantheon as his baby steps
slaanesh and leviathan also probably get along well enough though, mostly due to their overlap

Honestly, the SCP Foundation shit shouldn't really exist in the Horrorverse, because if so it fundamentally fucks up what could be a good setting with abominations and monsters running around the world causing havoc when it's all stopped because they're in containment by the Foundation. Oh look, there goes Freddy Krueger, off to kill those kids aga- oh wait he's been contained. Oh boy, it's The Thing! Perhaps we'll get something interest- contained.

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General consensus thus far is that the Foundation is too busy dealing with worse shit to worry about Freddy fucking over some teenagers or Jason and Sadako going on a murder honeymoon. They (and presumably the other GOIs) will only get off the ground for shit like a mass Deadite invasion and the Dark Ones getting out of their prison, or other shit like that.

And yet, you still have worse things in the barrel. Consider that the foundation still has a shit ton of reality ending SCPs, correct? Monsters which are unstoppable by all means and want to end the world? Unlike Leviathan, they won't prolong the suffering of humanity, they'll end it all. And that is a boring ending to a setting like this. Nobody wants to see MUH SPECIAL COOL EVIL DARK SABER MAN OC fight Jason or Freddy, because we all know that shitty OC would win in the end. It's all just tripe of endless "3DEEP5U UNIVERSE ENDER OC HE CAN BEAT 682 A MILLION TIMES", and it'd be boring as shit to see most of them in a room with most of what already exists and was created by horror writers with actual fucking talent.

>Consider that the foundation still has a shit ton of reality ending SCPs, correct? Monsters which are unstoppable by all means and want to end the world?
We've generally assumed that the majority of those are being stalled from devouring existence in the Horrorverse, as they are in their home settings. So the Scarlet King is being blocked by the Brothers Death, Yaldabaoth is stalled by Mekhane, Wondertainment does their thing, etc. There won't be any instant-setting wipes unless we go full Night Land. You're also forgetting that numerous other things in the Horrorverse are complete game-overs if left unchecked, and there is really no complaint about them. And on another note:

>Leviathan
>prolonging our suffering
It wants life outright gone. Our pain and suffering is closer to being a bonus than it is an endgoal.

It's evil, but it will help out when it feels the need is dire enough. Even it realizes that the Dark Ones don't intend on leaving anything behind once they're done with existence.

it's literally a god of pleasure and hunger that makes monsters that show the true pleasure of pain what the fuck do you think it wants? a setting where the main villain wants something more than everyone to die is more interesting than one where it's a generic eldritch horror
there's also nothing stated anywhere that leviathan wants the destruction of humanity

>it's literally a god of pleasure and hunger that makes monsters that show the true pleasure of pain what the fuck do you think it wants?
Based off comics lore (which is what these threads mostly use), it wants Life destroyed because it's chaotic and perverts its perfect order and unity. And if it can't achieve that, then it'll just make life more like Hell, a monochrome wasteland where everything is nest and tidy and every experience is catalogued right down to the individual nerve-ending. This is all comics lore relating to the nature of Leviathan.

It deeply wants to unmake all life, but if it can't do that, then it'll settle for the next best thing. Perverting it into something that's more in line with it.

>wants perfect order and unity
>literally makes beings that derive from pleasure through pain
wow that totally doesn't clash at all with it's own goals
yikes

The Cenobites derive pleasure through pain, but it's all structured, like the Hell they originate from. They draw out and refine the acts of torture until they become pleasure, and different parts of the Labryinth relate to different types of pain/pleasure and its refinement. This is basic Hellraiser 101.

You're seemingly confusing this stuff with 40k and Slaanesh, thinking that it's chaotic excess and high-seeking, when what Leviathan does is to ensure that every experience is well-catalogued and noted before moving onto the next one. There's no search for an endless high, just finding new pleasures through pain and adding them to the assortment within the Labryinth.

>the ruinous powers are literally beyond the comprehension of time and space
That's basically every other cosmic entity in the Horrorverse. They can get in line behind the other hundred-thousand.

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scpfags need to fuck off i'm tired of seeing them on every board to shill their slowly dying site

You can always leave the thread if seeing this stuff annoys you. Don't be a shitter.

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Despite him being more or less harmless, Keith is still pretty unnerving.

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>tfw no maybe dangerous maybe not creepy basement blob bro

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IT is eldergod tier at the least. According to lore. what we saw in it's book was a tiny part of an ancient entity that lives outside of existence and does this stuff for shits and giggles

What are these guys from? I only recognize a couple of names.

Also if King Ghidorah is part of this shouldn't Mothra?

a dog whistle will fucking destroy the monsters from the quiet place

What would' The Mist' be filed under?

Cute

"black goo" or smething like kaiju blood ?

creepy

The fireman, Who ?

Smoke probably evil smoke , like lost

It

add justice league of horror or some good name

lol

this seems like a good idea

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The SCP-001 designation isn’t one thing, but a designation the Foundation reserves for the big dangerous stuff. It explains the multiple entries

Are you guys really forgetting about IT's rival?
Speaking of which does the Turtle stack up against the likes of Leviathan or other evil entities?

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i guess is more powerful than godzilla

Based turtle

What if God actually DOES exist in the horrorverse, he's just so morally beyond anything we know of that he's incomprehensible? While Leviathan is in, his own way, punishing the sinners, God is just using him to punish them without having his angels get his hands dirty.

>Leviathan is actually akin to Satan in that he's doing God's work despite not wanting to
>Everything that spawns is just part of his plan, incomprehensible, beyond everything we know
Big think.

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wrong image fuck

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It's true too.

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>all the angels have butterfly wings
>Mothra is actually one of Yahweh's angels
>Ghidorah is actually just an extremely fucking strong demon or even a fallen angel masquerading as an alien entity

what did he mean by this?

Keep in mind that Godzilla brutally murdered said 'God'. So it's not really as powerful as one might think.

Where does Lovecraft come into this? Is everything just Azathoth's dream in the end? Did he dream Leviathan?

that was satan you fucking idiot

Perhaps God is the definitive creator of the multiverse (lord knows Morte and Leviathan couldn't) and has power over everything, he just doesn't intervene that much in the story unless you're in the afterlife, and many cosmic beings don't know of his existence, and those that do doubt it besides a few examples like Tzeentch and Leviathan himself.

wait a minute
>In Darkest Dungeon, The Light is formed by humanity's belief in there being gods
>Daemons and ruinous powers in the immaterium are formed by belief and emotion
Could The Light be a benevolent warp entity?

He killed both of them. The angels serving under that God even revere him after he destroys it, but he basically tells them to piss off.

Lovecraft probably got more wrong than he did right in this setting. Given that the Laundry exists here, then that's almost certainly going to be the case.

he didn't though, all that happened was godzilla shutting him the fuck up by sealing the entrance

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I still think that Lovecraftian entities exist in the horrorverse. Some of them are completely neutral though, and the whole universe is probably a bad dream anyways.

I was wondering when someone was going to talk about this

Even then, the fact that Godzilla could defy said entity doesn't really make it any more 'God' than the majority of cosmic entities we already have here. Hell, even its angels are creatures that will serve whoever proves to have the bigger dick swinging than their current master.

The Mountain is a powerful being, but it's just as flawed as anything else. Probably even more so.

Isn't Death from Final Destination more or less neutral? I don't really know the lore, but I think it's more or less just righting the wrongs instead of being a malicious entity.

It takes sadistic glee in the way it sets up its kills, and is perfectly willing to remove elements that try to obstruct it from claiming a victim. It even breaks its own rules when it comes to certain targets, so it clearly views the whole situation as some degree of sport more or less, rather than something it does as a matter of course.

Oh you mean billy’s STAND

Cosmic Forces of Good
>Morte Mamme
>The Great Ones
>Mantorok
>Maturin
>Mothra
>The Fireman
>Mekhane
>The Terror Mask
>Doomguy's Seraphim
>The Light from Darkest Dungeon
Cosmic Forces of Entropy
>Leviathan
>The Ruinous Powers (second strongest next to Leviathan)
>The Red Queen
>The Heart of Darkness
>JUDY
>IT/The Spider
>King Ghidorah/Yamata no Orochi
>The Powers
>The Entity
>The Ancients
>Yaldabaoth
>Satan from Prince of Darkness (also the son of Leviathan)
>The Sleeper
>Manos
Neutral Cosmic Forces
>Malal
>Death from Final Destination
Above all forms of morality
>"Yahweh"

I would add Azathoth to the "above all forms of morality" but that's just me.

>all this talk about cosmic forces
>nobody mentioning THE strongest vampire in the universe
maybe put drac from castlevania under entropy, considering how in castlevania canon he's basically the antithesis of god

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What about The Son of God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth? He's pretty high on the powerscale. I mean, guy has a sword made out of fire he can pull out from his mouth and he has the power of the Word of God, meaning he can tell a mountain to fuck off and it will do so.

As a Beam Guardian, Maturin is one of those things that is essentially untouchable to anything that can't break universes. But the downside is that he isn't immortal. He died via choking to death on a couple galaxies he couldn't cough up IIRC.

He's only coming when Leviathan manifests in the physical realm as the Anti-God.

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>Jesus himself will hand down the smackdown when Leviathan finally decides to show up in the real world.
Man, the Book of Revelations got a lot more interesting now.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Azathoth is just how Lovecraft interpreted Leviathan/Dis/the Anti-God or whatever.

Add Old Man C. to neutral. He's literally the equivalent of Satan in FNaF, but somehow really chill and calm.

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How so? Azathot is literally having an eternal nap and everything around him is essentially his dream, He's not called "The blind idiot god" because he's stupid, but because he's completely unaware of what's going around him and thus his dreams. It's far from the active malevolence that say, Leviathan is doing.

OMC is evil, but he just doesn't give two shits about being proactive about it. He'll fuck you over, but he'll do it whilst coming off as an old friend.

so is this a multiverse or a universe where everything exists?

Here

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updated again
Cosmic Forces of Good
>Morte Mamme
>The Great Ones
>Mantorok
>Maturin
>Mothra
>The Fireman
>Mekhane
>The Terror Mask
>Doomguy's Seraphim
>The Light from Darkest Dungeon
Cosmic Forces of Entropy
>Leviathan/The Anti-God
>The Ruinous Powers (second strongest next to Leviathan)
>The Red Queen
>Dracula
>The Heart of Darkness
>JUDY
>IT/The Spider
>King Ghidorah/Yamata no Orochi
>The Powers
>The Entity
>Nyarlathotep
>The Ancients
>Yaldabaoth
>Satan from Prince of Darkness (also the son of Leviathan)
>The Sleeper
>Manos
Neutral Cosmic Forces
>Malal
>Old Man Consequences
>Death from Final Destination
Above all forms of morality
>"Yahweh"
>Azathoth
>Tommy Wiseau
making everything out to be leviathan is the GW way of doing things
don't do it the GW way

>How so?
Dis is basically just Azathoth, but aware and very firm on returning everything to the oneness of the Outer Dark. Per word of Stephen King on the subject, Randall Flagg is *literally* Nyarlathotep, and enforces the will of Dis across creation, in the same way that the Crawling Chaos normally does in Lovecraft proper.

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killing this thread
WITH NO SURVIVORS

YOU MADMAN YOU WILL CALL JUDY

>talking about Judy
You fools! You've doomed us all!

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NO!
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING! I'M IN CHARGE HERE!

Here's an idea. All versions of Dracula are effectively the same Dracula just different manifestations, because Dracula has transcended being just a vampire, he's basically THE vampire, something more akin to a god than just another bloodsucker.

To the point where even other monsters don't wanna fuck with him, hence why something like Monster Squad can happen.

>You might terrorize some children, or even an entire town but always remember. Whatever I seek, I take, and whatever residence I seek suitable I reside. I trust you'll all remember that.

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someone make a new thread

Does he scrape and lick?

That makes...a surprising amount of sense

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