Captain Marvel plot summary (SPOILERS)

where can I get this pig?

Japanese are experts in teacup pigs and hamster butts pics.

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Youve convinced me to go watch it now

Vers looks for the skrull. There's the Stan Lee cameo, he's a man on the train learning lines from apparently a script, "trust me, true believers" he repeats. Vers smiles at him. The skrull is hiding as an old woman, Vers can tell because before the real granny bumped into her outside the train. They fight but the other passengers think Vers is actually beating up an old lady and stop her, so the Skrulls get away and once at the station Vers can't find him.

Meanwhile Fury is driving behind the train, Coulson sitting next to him. But then another Coulsom calls on the radio, asking why everyone left without him - the Coulson in the car is a skrull. Fury tries to fight him off until a bus hits the car. The skrull is dead, showing his real appearance, Fury covers its face while waiting for backup. In a lab they do an autopsy on the skrull, confirming he can't be from Earth, so Fury is obviously starting to believe Vers' story. His boss comes to check in on the situation, Fury reports the story, boss-man tells him to keep chasing Vers but alone, since clearly they can't trust anyone at the agency. When he's alone boss-man whispers to the skrull corpse, wishing him an happy traversal to the other side, he's actually Talos in disguise

Vers is trying to orient herself on Earth, she wants to find Dr Lawson but her name and "Pegasus" (it was written on the tag) are their only clues. She tries to read a map when a biker stops by and tries to flirt, he gives up and so.Vers thinks of stealing local clothes and his bike so she can move around more discretely. From the Skrulls' probing she remembers a bar where she and Rambeau hanged out and tries to find it

In the bar other fun memories resurface. Fury comes in too, stealing a bike gave away her position. So they have that "are you a skrull?" scene from the trailers, eventually he agrees to take her to Pegasus, a secret aircrafts development (i think) project by NASA and Air Force

Cont.

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>wanting to see this in 4k on the big screen

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kek, all this told me is that I would fucking hate it and you

cry more faggot

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Oh I will, those feet make me cry every time I see them

Nice, only disagree on Doc Strange.

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Is galactus or any other cosmic entity gonna be in it?

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The biggest whore on youtube is on the case.
youtube.com/watch?v=tGu0BtKHJKA

it's a really good origin story, on the same level as First Avenger.
everything after AM&tW ranges from entertaining to boring and Doctor Strange is boring.

I like how this movie is turning people insane, kinda like a mini BvS.

I'm interested but I still won't waste my money because I know that clip will be uploaded
this can't be real

Different user who saw it. I'd put it on par with Thor or Ant Man. Action was enjoyable, but I never liked Larson in anything prior to this.

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This a detailed summary.

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I'd put it at least on par with other MCU origin stories like Dr Strange or Antman. I guess it's biggest strength compared to them is that it doesn't have to spend time setting up the hero's origins, after Carol and friends leave Hala it's all story, for lack of a better word

On the other hand tho i guess it doesn't have the same creativity of Strange's magic or ANTS and subatomic worlds, the visuals are good, the Kree have fun weapons, even the soundtrack is fun sci-fi synth, but the focus is on Carol's identity crisis and she doesn't go binary until near the end

While waiting for permission to enter the Pegasus facility Fury jokes about how everyone calls him just Fury, even his mom. Once inside the staff is open to cooperate with SHIELD, but after asking about Lawson they just tell Fury and Vers to wait in a room. They get impatient and break into forbidden areas of the facility to investigate. That's when they meet Goose, which judging from Vers' memories was Dr Lawson's cat. Eventuality they find the secret files about the doctor. She died after an accident where she and another pilot were trying an experimental plane. The identity of the pilot is kept secret even in the files, but they also indicate Rambeau as witness so they can follow that lead. The files also contain the Dr's notes that Fury thinks are gibberish, but Vers recognizes them as Kree language

Vers contacts Yon-rogg again, he investigated the Kree archives himself and turns out the doctor is actually Mar-vell, a kree scientist. Meanwhile Fury contacted SHIELD since his objective was still to arrest Vers. Boss-man and other agents reach him and they get in an elevator to reach her. Boss-man says "good job, Nicholas" which makes Fury suspicious. He asks if Boss-man remembers the plan they used together in Whatever (can't remember the city) and the boss remembers - except Fury was lying so now he knows for sure he's Skrull

Cont.

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On a scale of one to 10, how cucked is Thanos now that he has to tend with her?

Saw it yesterday. Tier list:
-Cap 2
-Infinity War
-Thor Ragnarok
-Civil War
-Cap 1
-Iron Man 1
-GotG2
-GotG
-Iron Man 3 Reforged
-Black Panther
-Homecoming
-Ant-Man
-Avengers
-Thor 1
-AoU
-IM2
-TIH
-CAPITANA MARVEL
-Doctor Strange
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-
-Thor TDW

Am I missing something? Probably not.

Man, isn't the "ask someone you suspect is a shapeshifter about a made up memory together" cliche dead yet?

If you had to guess where I would put it based on my hastily made chart

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Mostly agree, I think Antman and the wasp

Personally boost up Homecoming by 4 and switch around the GotG then im good
What's TIH?

That's not what they looked like, be it for movie magic or simply because they're cured, i dunno. You can see them because while her hands are trapped by the skrulls' contraptions she uses her conveniently naked feet to comically operate a couple of doors and shit like that

With the excuse that he wants to flank Vers Fury gets away from boss-man. Vers herself is about to leave the building until she hears Coulson and another agent discussing that they were surprised by the order to capture Fury along the alien, dead or alive. She frustratingly feels bad and decided to go back to help him. Together they try escape until Coulson holds them at gunpoint, but eventually he lets them go and pretends they weren't there. Vers and Fury steal an experimental plane, she's not sure she can pilot it but instinctively remembers how. While they're flying away they have some bonding moments, Fury says that he's proud of how Coulson disobeyed his orders and acted on instinct and trust, so Vers explains her frustration about how she doesn't even know if she can trust her insincts and feelings

They reach Rambeau's house, she has a daughter too, Monica. Vers, to Fury's regret, openly explains the whole aliens situation, and how she hopes Rambeau can halp her find the truth. Once Fury and Monica leave the two alone Vers tries to go into more personal matters about their apparent past frienship, Rambeau starts sobbing about the trauma of losing a friend only for her to show up again as an alien that doesn't even remember her. Monica comes back with Vers' old belongings that they kept after their death, including lots of pictures of the trio hanging out, Vers' childhood etc. We learn obviously that Vers is supposed to be Carol Danvers, all that was left of her after the accident was an half destroyed dog tag.

cont.

I'm a footfag and that made me cringe.

the incredible hulk

>Vers
That's worse than calling Wonder Woman "Wondy".

They're interrupted by a neighbor asking if he can get his kids to see the weird plane Vers and Fury came with. She obviously doesn't trust him while Rambeau tries to make her chill, and by the time they close the door Talos appears behind them. He says he just wants to talk, that he came with his real form to show they can trust him, although at the same time outside there's another skrull holding Monica "hostage" by pretending to be her mother, as a way to force Vers not to kill him on the spot. He wants to reason with Vers because while pretending to be SHIELD he managed to get his hands on the secret data from the black box of the experimental plane that exploded, which the others thought didn't exist anymore. It's a recording of Vers and Dr Lawson speaking while piloting the plane, they were apparently attacked during the experiment, and hearing this awakes Vers' memory of the fact

They were orbiting Earth trying to reach something when a sudden spaceship attacked them. They get shot and Vers/Carol tries a crash landing that barely saves them. Once on the ground Carol rushes to help the doctor, which is bleeding blue blood. Lawson wants Carol to run away, she has to destroy the Lightspeed engine their plane used because she knows that's the tech their attackers want, but she's suddenly shot. Just like in Vers' nightmares the attacker slowly approaches them, except instead of a skrull it turns out to be Yon-rogg. He's about to kill Carol too until she shoots the engine as the doctor planned. She's hit by the explosion except she seems to absorb it's energy, which is why Yon-rogg decides to take her on Hala and train her as a kree. The name "Vers" comes from her destroyed dogtag. it's the second half of Danvers

Remembering the trauma brings Vers to a crisis and she runs outside, unsure of who she's supposed to be. Rambeau tries to bring her to her senses

Cont.

This all sounds so bland. This is probably nearing the end of the movie and anything at all is yet to happen.

>The name "Vers" comes from her destroyed dogtag. it's the second half of Danvers
Fuck this gay ass movie

There's still a solid third of the film left at least. It is pretty bland in some respects and the amount of Binary style carnage is surprisingly brief, but it's a solid... fine. Doctor Strange/Ant-Man level

Oh boy just wait till i tell you that the whole superhero initiative that Nick Fury introduced is only called Avengers because he saw a photo of Carol with her plane and on the plane it showed her nickname Carol "Avenger" Danvers

Warbird is a better nickname, Avengers sound lame.

It's not that I don't believe you, it's that I refuse to

I forgot to mention earlier that while discussing Carol's accident Rambeau mentions that she and Carol were up to that assignment because at the time women weren't actually allowed to go on missions, so Carol took the opportunity to do something that could prove her worth, also because it was a risky experiment that would put any pilot in danger, in a way Carol was expendable.

Also Goose was on the plane with Fury and Vers, Talos is scared of him and it's the first time he calls it a flerken

Anyhow, as i was saying Vers' is in a crisis and Rambeau tries to reason with her. She tells her she is Carol Danvers, her friend and a big pain in the ass that was already capable on anything before any alien recruitment and whatnot. This cheers up Carol that finally accepts herself as that. They agree to help Talos, he explains that they traced down Carol's energy signature (hence the kidnapping) because they hoped they could find Mar-vell's secrets through her memories, in particular they want the coordinates she and Carol were trying to reach during the experiment. The humans in the room reveal they weren't coordinates on Earth, but something floating in it's orbit, and they take Talos there

Carol ditches the human clothes and wears the Kree suit again. She talks to Monica and explains that since the kree are assholes she can't keep wearing their colours, so she brings up her wrist-computer and asks Monica to pick a new palette. They play around with the settings and explore a number of variations, in particular a gold/black one and a green/white one (guess the references), until Carol brings up the Air Force logo on Monica's t-shirt and they settle for it's colours, gold blue and red. The kid stays at home with her grandparents while Carol and the gang use the rocket-plane they stole to get into horbit, while a skrull remains on earth disguised as Carol to try fool Yon-rogg once he arrives

cont.

>Doctor Strange/Ant-Man level
Yeah, and that's the problem. I'm tired of bland origin movies that are 2/3 bland and then 1/3 exciting. This crap came out in between Infinity and End Game. It should have been much better than this, or have been released a year ago.

Don't worry, nobody will cares about that detail in Endgame since the character isn't as popular as they though.

Really liked the first Ant-man and think Strange's solo is pretty underrated. So it's on like Donkey kong. Thanks, stallions.

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Wow this is super boring an uninteresting

You ok user?

Thor Ragnarok filled me with a rage I haven't felt since The Amazing Spider-Man 2, no I'm not okay

guh

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So... what was the deal with Jude Law and the Mar-Vell mistake in the Marvel page? not to mention that they kept the role secret until a few days ago, I guess originally the character was going to be or pretend to be Mar-Vell.

>so much of Yea Forums ranks ant man so low

This place has questionable taste.

Needless to say Yon-rogg eventually smells the bullshit and kills the skrull. Before reaching Earth he was contacted by Ronan, which blamed the failure of the spy-retrieval mission on Starforce and demanded to know Vers' and the skrulls' location so he and the other accusers could purge the planet from the filth. Yon-rogg initially refused but now that Carol knows everything it's time to fuck shit up

Meanwhile the good guys reach Mar-vell's coordinates. They don't see anything until Carol picks up something on her wrist-computer, a cloaked kree spaceship that she unveals. Inside we learn of Talos' true objective, as Mar-vell's spaceship was home of skrull refugees, including Talos' wife and kid. They also find the "core" of the Lightspeed engine that gave Carol her powers, which turns out to be the Tesseract. The spaceship is full of Earth memorabilia so they pick an Happy Days lunchbox to store the Tesseract. Starforce intervenes and makes everyone prisoner.

They take Carol to another pod to contact the Supreme Intelligence on the ship. The intelligence still appears as Mar-vell/mystery woman but now everything's more '90s due to Carol's memories resurfacing. The Intelligence tells Carol that she should be grateful to the kree, that they made her a powerful warrior while back on Earth she was only a failure, Carol tries to fight but the Intelligence forces her to relive the big montage of fuck-ups we saw earlier in the movie, "without us you're only human". But Carol still rebels, she's fine as being only human (Starlord somewhere is smiling in approval) and the montage of failures turns into a montage of Carol always getting back up after every fuckup, as a kid, as an adult etc. She fights off the Intelligence in her mind hard enough to start liberating herself from the hypnotism

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Almost there guyse. It's almost fukken 2 AM here

It's definitely just the Marvel team feeding deliberate misinformation. They said that with GoTG 2 they put J'Son in concept art and the like when press were around to deliberately make it look like they may have been lying about Ego. Plus the fake scripts of Infinity War and the constant trailer edits.

Huh. That's not how I would have handled Carol's big moment but I like the core of that idea, her being someone who keeps on getting up despite being a failure. So that's actually very pleasing to hear. A good foundation, I have a feeling that they won't have pushed her "failures" as far as it should've gone.

How would you have handled it?

Muh nigga.

I love the Ant-Man movies, dude. If he never appeared in Civil War, i couldn't tell these characters are part of the MCU. Watched Ant-Man and Wasp again and i like it even more.

Also, Captain Marvel is good. Not great, not bad. Just good. It's the kind of movie completely that relies too much on plot twists. So... don't read spoilers online.

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I saw it yesterday here in yurop. The skrulls being just refugees felt lame, but Ben Mendelsohn is a fantastic actor even with a green mask on and he was by far the best in the movie. The air force flashbacks of NO WAY A WOMAN CAN BEAT ME were so fucking lame to the point of being a parody of itself, they'll be memed to oblivion.

Also Carol smashing Kree ships was great, so was Ronan being scared/aroused by it, and the Endgame scene.

>Ben Mendelsohn is a fantastic actor
Why did ya ever doubt the Aussie blood ya poofter?

Yep and I think his casting call was for a Doctor Walter Lawson but keeping his role secret was probably kind of dumb considering the suppose twist with Mar-Vell isn't that great and they didn't really need to hide Yon-Rogg.

I also wouldn't be surprised if at one point they really did have a male Mar-Vell in the drafts but we'll never know. I know Perlman who did both drafts for GotG and Captain Marvel said that they did have Spartax and J'Son in the original GotG before Gunn came in and in early interviews while she was writing the draft for CM with Meg, the stuff she said she wanted to prevent in Captain Marvel (Green Lantern like origin and people comparing Carol to Superman) ended up happening.

This movie fucking blows ass. I am willing to bet Fury died of an eye socket infection and has been a skrull this whole time.

Carol challenges the intelligence, it's clear the chip-device they gave her wasn't really what gave her the blasts, it was only to contain her powers when she wasn't familiar with them, so what can she do without it? She destroys it and that's how she becomes the legendary Super Saiyan.

She starts fighting off Starforce. The mess she's creating fucks with the ship's energy which accidentally frees Fury, Talos and the others. Eventually Carol reaches them and hands over the Tesseract so they can bring it on Earth while she deals with the kree. Fury refuses to touch the thing until Goose goes flerken and eats it. They escape while Carol still holds the Happy Days lunchbox to make Starforce believe she still has the cube. The fight continues and it's clear Carol isn't used to her powers since she makes blasts strong enough to knock her against walls and shit. Eventually everyone's out of the spaceship, Carol's about to crash on Earth until she concentrates and stops her fall by flying.

Meanwhile Ronan and the accusers have reached Earth. As per usual MO they start going full Vietnam and try bomb the area, but Carol flies and destroys the missiles in time. A small space battle starts and Carol manages to destroy one of the ships. She flies in front on Ronan's ship to intimidate him, he decides to retreat and promises they'll come back "for the weapon". His underling asks if he's referring to the Tesseract, but Ronan says "no, the woman"

Carol comes back on Earth where Yon-rogg crash landed. He had some cool gravity-gauntlets btw, but obviously he's now outmatched. He tries to challenge Carol, he says he's proud of her progress but reminds her that as they agreed back on Hala she'll never be ready until she's able to face him without photon blasts. Caroll pulls an Indiana Jones and just blasts him, "i don't have to prove anything to you"

continues in one last post, i swear

>the Endgame scene was great
Why are you lying?

Sorry OP, this is all so boring I stopped reading like 3 or 4 posts back.

Your a shitter, kys

So is the SI a computer or is it a person? I'm already confused why they combined SI with Mar-Vell

Why would a skrull call captain for help?

The Skrull are the twist good guys in this movie, if the spoiler summary is real

That is the dumbest possible twist they could have done.

>Why did ya ever doubt the Aussie blood ya poofter?
I only recognized him Rogue One and Ready Player One, and I haven't watched those. There's a fight scene in the archives while he's posing as Fury's boss but his cover's blown, he kicks the shit out of Sam Jackson while being very casual about it. It's great, dude's really entertaining throughout the whole thing. Only good parts about Brie are when she puts on tight shirts and when the catchy 90's tunes ramp up to go with the scene, she's just sort of there the whole time.

Talos was great, and I really like how his “BenMen” disguise was only a small part of his screentime. Pretty nice twist that the Skrulls were the victims, but it’s funny how MCU’s best “villains” are those who aren’t two-dimensionally evil.
Kinda sucks that Ronan did jackshit in this though.

Just pushed it farther. I can't say how much farther, since I'm just going off the spoilered text for now ('till I see the film), but making Carol Danvers/Vers a recognized and destructive "warbird" among the Kree military would've given those "Failures" more bite. As Vers, she could still be a fuck up who causes unbelievable collateral damage, but since she's so powerful and gets the Skrulls in the end, she could almost relish the role as she climbs the ranks. It'd give her something substantial at stake, a reputation and lifestyle that she earned and enjoyed, even if she was secretly unnerved by the thought of the collateral damage, or something. It could even contrast well with how she'd come to view her life on Earth, where she struggled without any of that same recognition. Making her a rookie on her first mission fits an Origin Story, but as of right now, she doesn't have the meatiest of failures (or temptations) to fall back on, just a series of flashbacks from a life she doesn't recognize and a single assignment to her name.

So dumb that I mentioned it months ago.

>Why are you lying?
I don't care much for Carol, but seeing her appear in the middle of the og mcu avengers was fun because those characters I care about. Where's the lie in that?

>I clapped when I saw something I knew
Kys

SI’s a techno-organic entity, and the Krees interface with it via special room-platforms thingies. Different people see SI in different forms; in Carol’s case, Dr. Wendy Lawson / Mar-Vell.

I've just watched the movie. Haven't they all fucked off along with Carol in the end? I don't think there are any skrulls on earth.

Talos was so darn chill when he ain’t fighting. Like, he just wants to find his people and get the shit over with.

Also, his science guy’s pretty dumb in a good way.

>parroting rlm memes shows off my superior intelect
I didn't piss my pants every time they showed off the tesseract, just surprised to get a preview of the next movie my dear tourist.

Does this fit with the known timeline about the Tesseract, or is it retconing how they found it at the bottom of the sea with Frozen Captain America?

Four came to Earth: Talos, Old Lady, Fake Coulson and Fake Carol.

Fake Coulson and Fake Carol are dead and Talos left, but Old Lady is still around.

Movie sucks, save your money folks

>I don't think there are any skrulls on earth
Sounds just like something a skrull sympathizer would say.

What the fuck is rlm? Also it's not a preview, it's literally a scene from Endgame. Disney's been cheapening these films for years.

>og mcu avanger
>og
what?

But Carol doesn't feel particularly murderous and offers Yon-rogg an hand, even though it's only to drag him back to the pod he landed on to send him back on Hala. He says he can't come back, they won't accept him empty-handed, but Carol replies he'll bring her message: that the kree's fuckery is done for and that she'll make sure their warmongering all over space will be stopped

The whole gang's back at Rambeau's house. In a previous scene Fury got scratched by Goose because he kept bothering the thing, although he insists he's fine. Monica is eager to keep the skrulls in their house but everyone can tell it's dangerous. So Carol promises she'll find an home for them, due to the war with the Krees there all Skrulls all over space in hiding since their homeworld is gone. Carol suggests Fury to keep the Tesseract on Earth just in case, and gives him his pager (he used it throughout the movie) that she modified so he can contact her if he needs her, the thing's signal can reach the distance of two galaxies. After the goodbyes she leaves with the skrulls and Mar-vell's ship.

So we see Fury in his office. Coulson walks in and hands over a box full of glass eyes so he can pick one, Fury doesn't look particularly interested. Coulson asks if it's true he lost the eye while restisting the kree's tortures, Fury says "i won't confirm or deny anything". Goose is with him of course. Fury starts explaining he doesn't think he can trust Earth's safety in the hands on a one-army woman lost somewhere in space, and that's why he's creating a document to pitch "The Protector Initiative". As the other user said he then looks at an old photo of Carol, her plane labeled "Carol 'Avenger' Danvers"

Fucking character limit. I'll briefly mention the two post credit scenes and a few general curiosities, movie's over technically

remember when the movie turned into Star Wars for a little while and it was miles better than nuStar Wars?

also is Minerva dead?

Red Letter Media

So, Fury loses his eye on an epic moment or during a really boring casual thing. Its always one or the other.

>they found it at the bottom of the sea with Frozen Captain America
When was that established?

It fits.

fucking newfag

Super Saiyan memes when?

>what?
The "original" 6 Avengers in the mcu. The first post credits scene is lifted from Endgame and you see Banner, Widow and Cap looking at the device Fury used to call Carol, she then appears right next to them with longer hair. That's it.

>"Carol 'Avenger' Danvers"
That's kind of a dumb origin story for the Avenger's name and I don't like the prospect of making a literal who that came in at the 11th hour to suddenly be this monumental historical figure to their history.

Also what was Carol an 'Avenger' of even?

rage some more, faggot
go get angry at social media

Oh shit. I thought old Lady and Fake Carol were the same guy. Place your bets, lads: who is the skrull in the MCU?

og isn't a Yea Forums term, that's long time slang. Idk how the fuck user doesn't know that.

oh cool, thanks

Are the action scenes at least good?

was that Hill with Coulson on the stairs at Project Pegasus?

>er plane labeled "Carol 'Avenger' Danvers"
I will skip this movie and Endgame.
Call me an autistic. I might as well be. This pisses me off way more than it should.

>"Carol 'Avenger' Danvers"
I shouldn't be surprised, but I remember some user suggesting that Janet Van Dyne be the one to name the Initiative way back in the 80's, and now I'm eternally disappointed with any other idea.

the Kree are dicks

Whoever will ask for a payraise.

Fury

That's just her callsign.

Monica's mother's was "Photon".

Drax.

I just got confused with carol being with the og

MARVEL VS CAPCOM MOVIE CONFIRMED

If Hill is her actress' age, she'd be 15 years old in '95.

Thanks story rime user.

>Marvel 20 years away to find skrull home.
>Never she heard or encountered Thanos and minions.
I see the intention, but still thats lame. Just like the Avengers name. And to some sort Furys lost eye.
Thats like comic all again, everything should orbit Captain Marvel. Was there any character or origin that "muh so important"?

women?

>brie is only 29
>Still looks like shit

So, as leaked in that one video the first post credits scene is from Endgame. Curiously Steve still has a beard, him and Natasha are looking at computer screens that seem to be calculating the millions of losses that came from Thanos' snap, so supposedly this is all briefly after IW's events. Rhodey walks in and points out Fury myterious pager stopped working. They knew it must've been important so they hooked it to a battery to keep it working, they're wondering what happened until Carol suddenly appears behind them (different costume and all) and asks where's Fury

Second scene is goose barfing out the Tesseract

As a general list of curiosities:
>The Marvel Studios opening replaced all the movie scenes with a compilation of Stan Lee cameos from the movies, followed by a sober "Thank you, Stan" on black screen
>When "jumping" the spaceships use the same space-beehive effect introduced in GotG2
I can't actually think of anything else right now. If there are questions ask now before i collapse in sleep

I honestly thought it was silly too. But the line all the way back in Avengers when Tony said "we'll avenge Earth" sounded dumb too, it's a weird conundrum because the word is so specific compared to something like "Justice League" for example

kys

Should've saved the thank you for Endgame, the movie people will actually watch

I'm assuming they'll make it a year-long thing that includes both Endgame and Spiderman, kind of like how last year the opening of every movie pointed out the 10 years annyversary of the franchise

>Nick's lost eye turned into an epin cat scratched it out joke

LMAO

>I-its not a c-cat!

People defending that shit, it's true but not less stupid.

It's better than some generic war story

No it's not.

It is real bro. They are the good guys just wanting to go far away from Krees that want to kill them.

Yes. Her ship blows up by Carol nigger friend kinda. Think Independence Day chase between alien and will smith.

>the thing's signal can reach the distance of two galaxies
So Carol was chillin' in Andromeda?

Can someone tell me the difference between a skrull and a kree? I still have no clue what they are

Hi Yea Forums

In the MCU Skrulls are the green guys that shapeshift. Here the Krees seem more like a religion thing? There are many kind of Krees. Blue like Ronan, more human like in appearence...

this movie is very good

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Are you retarded, blind, or casual? But I'll play ball

The Kree are a race of blue, Spartan like race with militaristic values. They've been waging a war with The Skrulls for years, a race of goblin looking shapeshifters who specialize in infiltration. They lost their world due to Galactus. Of course this is comic canon

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>It is real bro. They are the good guys just wanting to go far away from Krees that want to kill them.

Who the fuck doesn't? The Kree have always been bigger twats than the Skrulls.

Kree: Muh Supreme Intelligence Science-warrior Blue Man Group
Skrull: Muh Queen Shapeshifting Green McPrunechin

>WW2: Red Skull seizes Tesseract, loses it
>Post-WW2: Howard Stark retrieves it for SHIELD
>late-80s: Mar-Vell experimented on it as a power source for her space engines, stashes it aboard her orbital lab
>90s: Captain Marvel stops the Kree from getting it, Goose eats it and then pukes it out onto Fury’s desk.
>2010s: SHIELD researches using it for weaponisation

>and gives him his pager (he used it throughout the movie) that she modified so he can contact her if he needs her, the thing's signal can reach the distance of two galaxies

So, is Carol a genius too?

what makes the tesseract so special

Sounds cool

She knows how to use technology it seems. I mean, the bitch used a gameboy and more shit to made a pay phone have galactic reach.
No joking btw.

It’s the only known Infinity Stone on Earth.

It houses one of the Infinity Gems in a way that makes it possible to harness some of its power without instantly disintegrating.

I can put a computer together, I'm seen as a genius among the technologically ignorant rubes that comprise nearly 98% of the people I work with, stop looking for reasons to get pissy.

Skrull = green monster-men that can shapeshift to look like any person, possibly other things

Kree = designated space assholes, usually blue but they also come in human colours

Speaking of which, the skrull also had variety among them. There are the ones like Talos that look more humanized and another, smaller variant that looks more goblin-like. Talos' wife in particular had lips that looked almost exactly like the "muppet mouth" from the comics. I liked this variety

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Not true. Time stone was also in earth by that time.

They reused the location-naming effects from GOTG too.

What about the Eye of Agamotto?

I said “known”. Time Stone’s kept by a secret bunch of hocus pocus magicians in Kamar-Taj, which SHIELD probably wasn’t quite aware of.

It's not even the only infinity stone in New York

the Kree are like Rome, except the government is combined into a collective contained in one being. They want to become perfect beings, so they conquer, keep what they want, and exterminate the rest. the Krulls are more tribal, less authoritarian, except for groups of religious zealots.

So why the fuck Yon-Rogg looks like a human, not a blue alien?

Why would they rage war

I said they seem to be a religion more than a race. Maybe the "human like" are the Kree niggers. Who knows.

Why does anybody rage war?

Why does any civilization start a war when meeting another? Dumbass

That doesn't answer my question

Why the fuck are there white, yellow, black and brown humans on Earth?

It does, read a book, faggot

kree are divided into pink and blue

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Not to sound like a f/a/ggot, but everyone stop spoonfeeding this retard and/or falling for his bait.

Humans have raged war because of:
-Greed
-Racism
-Religious differences
-Resources
-Disagreements

So is it so hard to believe that two civilizations would wage war?

I see. So all hopes for a Secret Invasion plot for the next movies are dead and gone, right? I could see this happenning if the skrull left on earth is an evil fucker, but he is only one guy. How do skrulls make little skrulls? Sorry, never read too much of cosmic marvel.

There are plenty Skrulls left. In this movie the ones that appear turn out to be good but that doesn't mean there aren't others that by the actual point in the timeline could be EVIL at all.
And I guess they fuck? I mean, Talos had a waifu and kid.

This would seem like a good time to mention that Ant Man was a thing in universe in the 80s. You would think SHIELD might have a couple files on him.

I wonder if any future movie will mention Carol not doing anything about Thanos killing off planet after planet.

I mean, that logic goes for every cosmic character. It's understandable that small-time types like Rocket either don't care or even think they could face him, but what about Asgard for example? Odin oversaw entire "realms" and Heimdall can see everything, Thor is 1500 years old and supposedly spent most of that time having adventures in space, did none of them notice Thanos and his genocides? Did they not care?

The safest explanation is that space is just pretty big

This pretty much matches this summary from Mike Miller.

youtube.com/watch?v=DCtSrmDc-bs

Sounds boring as fuck.

Asgard it makes more sense, it's the same reason they never get involved in any wars between lesser species. Same reason they did not care WWII happened. None of their dominions were threatened by it so who cares.

If space is so big, why is everything in Marvel solely in New York City.

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What's that got to do with anything?

It does, but the guy sounds like a faggot

>So it turns out the, uh, skrulls, they're refugeeeeeees
>They go on Mar-vell's ship and find the poor refugeeeeeeeeeees
The heck

>GOTG 2 above 1

why tho?

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Well, why’re most anime/manga set in Japan? Because that’s the real-world location of the source material.

>What does an Avengers initiative in 1996 have to do with the only other superpowered person they know of?

damn, I don't know

He's far-right.

>that’s the real-world location of the source material
Not for comics newfag

So what happens with Maria? Is she just a cameo? Or does she actually do anything?

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That person also already told SHIELD to get fucked tho. And maybe I'm misremembering, but doesn't Hank say something about how Howard agreed to keep Pym particles a secret or something? I can't tell

go dilate

Maria?

>We're going to pause this movie for a few minutes so we can remind out viewers an old white guy also exists for no discernible reason.

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Maria Rambeau. She was in one of the trailers

If this came out after Endgame, I doubt anyone would actually watch it

Ant-Man and The Wasp is just better than the first, I would put it higher, but that's it.

Yeah but what the fuck are you saying in the original comment? It seems like you think the movie should have mentioned Ant-Man there and not doing so is a retarded flaw.

>she has a problem with dealing with her impulses and emotions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why would anyone watch anything post Endgame?

Not him, but I only hovered over the embed button and saw the thumbnail to get an idea of which side he breads his butter. It seemed in line with the usual spammy faggotry I've seen on this board recently before this movie came out and on Yea Forums, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume.

Oh, her. Sorry, as i said in the summary i forgot her first name. Did you read it? Once "Vers" meets her she stays throughout the movie, it's not a cameo

One question, before I return to Yea Forums Is the acting passable?
Larson doing anything except that bitch resting face?

Nah I didn't read it

GotG3?

Then what are you doing here?

That's nice but how about you fuck off with this "Oh yea but there's another guy hero running around to so BTFCarol Fuck yea!" bullshit okay?

Asking a specific question about the only part of this movie I give a fuck about?

The first two weren't even worth it

Pretty sure he meant, it would be cool if there was some kind of quick mention on Fury's desk about the original Ant-Man and Wasp when he is going over their first concept of an Avengers. Similar to how Spider-Man is mentioned in the first Ant-Man movie, or the Hammer pilots are mentioned in Dr Strange.

Fuck off

Fuck you

Pretty sure your a samefag trying to shift goalposts after being called out

There's fucking Mysterio coming later this year man

I see. Well as i said, it's not a cameo, she and her daughter Monica are important as Carol's ties to Earth and her past, and she gets a bit of action too

So the Supreme Intelligence doesn't look like it's comic self? After you wrote no one knows what it looks like and it appearing as a old lady, I thought for sure in like the third act they would reveal it's true grotesque appearance as giant green head in a jar.

>old white guy
Why does this matter? God I'm so sick of this casual bigotry coming from the left. You going to tell me how lesser black people are and how you need to be their white saviour? There's a fucking guy running around with superpowers and you're too fucking stupid to realize why that's important

Why do you always have to immediately go full /pol/ each and every time in every thread. Maybe we just want to talk about the fucking movie and not inject identity politics into it.

Do Kree soldiers look like this? The Starforce uniforms suck. I'd like the random soldiers to at least have those type of helmets.

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>There is a guy that only existed for a minute in another movie from 5 years ago, and you are too stupid to realize why I want to mention him over the main character of this one?

No i just see what you are trying to do here

This movie wouldn't exist without identity politics.

It isn't a promising thing when literally everything in the movie is ok/fine except for the protagonist

in fact a movie about a young Fury investigating a Kree/Skrull incursion in the 90's would have been a much better idea

No, movies exist to entertain. People like YOU come in here and start imagining identity bullshit so you have a reason to feel oppressed and bitch

the mooks had the helmets

Cant really debate that.

The troopers had those fin helmets.
Danvers herself tried out the white/green deco when trialing different camos for her suit.

Tell that to I didn't bring up race

I thought in the comics the Krees and Skrulls are both suppose to be big intergalactic assholes and the heroes only side with whoever poses less of a threat to Earth when trying to one up each other? I wonder how they will make Secret Invasion work... unless it's another 'we just did so we could beat a bigger threat' angle.

Well yeah, we only see it from Carol's visions that give it the shape of the old lady. The thing is Carol never actually fights the Intelligence, all the conflict with the Kree/Starforce is around Earth and the Intelligence confrontation was a glorified phone call. If i had to guess they might be keeping more Kree stuff aside for the sequels

Yon-rogg's helmet kinda looks like that. But yes, there are also normal soldiers with even bigger fins

and here we go with /pol/fags coming in to turn this thread to shit. Why can't you stick to fucking ruining Yea Forums?

Who did they pause the movie for

Sure, but THIS movie solely exists because of Stephen Wacker's idiotic idea.

Really, no Supremor with tentacles?

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It's /pol/ to tell people not to be racist?

I suppose along the same lines that nothing on Xandar resembled the comic Novas either. Rona Dey was a normal person, Garthan Saal was a normal guy, no centurion flew or did anything cool.

They already retconned some stuff in Captain Marvel

just another retconn/infinity gauntlet fuckery to make the Skrulls assholes again

That's on the same level as BvS's emails in terms of contrived idiocy.

that might be why it appears as a subconscious projection

No one, that user was saying it was weird that Ant-Man was ignored and then a racist derailed the thread because they see people by their skin color instead of the fact that the dude has superpowers.

There's something cool about the way comic Kree looks, from Ronan to the soldiers to that fucking head they all differ to. Maybe it's because I like the green-blue aesthetic so much.

Uh, which of these applies here?
>You were so blinded by rage that you misread my post as saying "movies exist because of identity politics" as opposed to "this specific movie exists because of identity politics"
>You're so dedicated to the idea that "movies exist to entertain" that you cannot fathom any movie ever being made with any sort of political agenda, and reject the mere possibility
Either way, you're sounding very irrational. I suggest you step away from the computer for a moment, and take a nice deep breath.

It's /pol/ to assume each and every thing down to a movie starring a female lead is simply racism and not having a movie about a female character actually star a female actor. you idiots keep trying to dig up conspiracy in every day normal things that well-adjusted people would never think to question because the shit you people come up with is retarded.

it is contrived, but seeing as how she is the inspiration for the Initiative in the first place I'm willing to let that slide.

There are a lot more things worthwhile to complain about in this movie. Talos casually dropping that he killed Fury's boss and stole his identity and Fury taking it casually in stride over a meal in Louisiana

>asks why no one at SHIELD brought up the guy already running around with super powers
>"you idiots keep trying to dig up conspiracy in every day normal things that well-adjusted people would never think to question because the shit you people come up with is retarded."
You're a fucking retard mate

You know that the Nova Force was a single prototype initially right? Most of the Corps didn't have powers for a long time.

Why would Ant-Man ever need mentioning at all? He was gone for years at that point, if Fury ever heard of him in the first place. It makes no sense and only serves to be a "Look here is this guy, he exists" which adds nothing to the movie in any way. It's a pointless addition.

I really don't remember Talos speaking about killing anyone, the joke of the scene was that he was trying to paint his identity thefts as innocent borrowings and things like that

Why the fuck did everyone just stand there when she was breaking out? They even say "she's breaking out" and everyone, Yon-Rogg, the rest of Starforce,
the Kree soldiers, they all just fucking stand there with their weapons in a totally relaxed position. They're not even in awe either, they looked fucking bored. What the actual fuck?

but literal days go by in the movie and the skrulls don't have their tech or a ship to hold hostages, where are they keeping them if not killing them?

I created an image using your recollection of the movie
now it should be easier to talk about

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The point is, they made a lot of pointless changes to the Novas, so it is not that surprising that they made a lot of pointless changes to the Kree as well. Rhomann Dey was at best a mall cop, and now Marv-El is some scientist.

I'm not reading all of that, post tl;dr

I just asked why Hank being white was important, that's the last thing I think about when I think of the guy that shrinks down to microscopic size. It's the last thing I think about anyone really, that kind of descriptor is only used by people who see skin color as an important factor. I don't give a shit about Brie Larson or her crusade, I just want to know why the former SHIELD agent with superpowers wasn't thought of when Fury created the Avengers.
Why would the leader of SHIELD not know about a superpowered ex-employee? They could have had a file on him in the shot that OP didn't mention, it's a legitimate question to ask.

Clearly you do care or else you would not make this into some kind of crusade that you need to win at all costs right now.

He's not the leader of SHIELD at that point

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I like how easy it was to predict that Jude Law's character would turn villainous when the big character poster had him take up a massive amount of space and Talos, the supposed big bad, a tiny spot with less prominence than the cat. Speaking of which, what was it like when the tentacles came of Goose? Is he portrayed as a being that, though cat like in almost everywhere, is about as intelligent as the rest of the characters in the film?

The only real change is that Rhomann Dey wasn't Nova Prime and Saal died. By and large they were portrayed as they were in the comics before Worldmind was created and the whole corps got powers.

Nobody gives a shit now fuck off

Not really.

>Incredible Hulk On Top

I see you are a man of great taste too.

That movie is so fucking underrated it's ridiculous.

What's wrong? They were surprised that she was resisting the conditioning and didn't expect her to explode or get rid of her inhibitors

Well, i guess you could consider this a minor plothole. But consider that the whole ordeal lasts less than 22 hours, and it's not like they had cellphones to contact each other quickly and things like that. They might've just knocked out the guy and leave him unconscious in his office for a few hours

Jesus, no wonder it took me three hours to post the whole thing

>. As the other user said he then looks at an old photo of Carol, her plane labeled "Carol 'Avenger' Danvers"

Okay that is fucking obnoxious and now I'm definitely skipping this.

If he's intelligent he doesn't show it. The tentacles come out when he eats the tesseract and some Kree soldiers but otherwise he acts like a normal cat.

Like the fucking Tesseract?
No you’re right, a chance to actually tie Hank and Jan to the creation of the avengers is pointless for comic book fans watching a comic book movie.
Also tying movies together coherently in a shared universe is also pointless.
Watching movies is pointless, as is this thread, as is this sentence, as are the nuerons firing in your brain to process the words your currently reading.

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They didn't act surprised at all, and they certainly didn't look like they were preparing to, I don't know, shoot her if she actually DID break out. I know the Kree are arrogant fucks but that really bothered me. I wanted really badly to like this movie but I just felt disappointing to me. It just felt so heartless, so rote and predictable. I know people say that about a lot of these movies but I haven't disappointed with one like this since Thor 2.

She opens her mouth and a mess of tentacles come out, pretty much what you'd expect. I wouldn't know if intelligent is the right word but she seemed to know what she was doing, like following Carol and Fury around and attacking the kree when necessary. There's a scene where Fury holds her up expecting her to eat a kree guard only for her to ignore him, because it later turned out it was Talos in disguise

user, i get wishing for a cute namedrop but Ant-man established Hank as a bitter old man that wanted nothing to do with SHIELD and saving the world, you're basically suggesting to retcon the movie

Okay read that back to yourself. Are you literally fucking insane?

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>it's bad to care about racism
No (you) for you
Thank you, that's actually a really good reason for him to not be mentioned.

Hank Pym fucking hated SHIELD and told everyone to fuck off a long time before this movie takes place. He would never have a damn thing to do with any of them and that was spelled out several times in both Ant-Man movies. Having him mentioned in Captain Marvel would be absolutely nothing but a "Hey here's an old white man for no reason!" wasting everyone's time including the viewer.

honestly that looks like nail trauma due to dropping something on her feet. I had similar looking toenails once, I'd dropped something heavy on my feet, hurt like I bitch and my toenails looked awful for months.

The other thing it could be is badly removed nail polish, black and blue nailpolishes can stain the nails if you don't wear a protective base varnish.

There is a difference between being asked to join a team for the good of Earth, and sharing particles technology. I don't think Stark wanted to share anything with Fury either but he was willing to help when it was needed.

Not that guy, but Antman would have still been in full save the world mode at that time, right? His wife got shrunk to shit on that missile when his daughter was like, 8, right? So he was still doing hero shit back then. Not really familiar with the timeline though, so who knows.

Speaking of feet what was up with that 5 minute sequence where she runs around barefoot and uses her feet to open doors and shit? There didn't seem to be any good reason for the Skrulls to take her boots off...

All I wanted was a Rick Jones. They could have had Carol turn into Rick and have a transactivism message and I wouldn't have cared.

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You're intentionally trying to derail this thread with your racism at this point. You WANT this because the film is shit and you know that it's the only thing that will get people to stop talking about the film. Stop baiting people and then playing the victim like you don't know what you're doing.

Really caught up on Hank being white or are you intentionally trolling?

the worst thing in the movie SHIELD and Hydra at some point lost track of the tesseract, something Captain Fucking America and Howard Stark both classified as a high priority asset

>I don't see color when it's my color

That is pretty fucking stupid.

aren't they the same thing in this point in time?

It really is, they really cobbled together some of the best Hulk stuff while still being fresh
>Hulk screaming at lightning from Grey
>the entire Bruce Jones opening
>Stanly
>Rick Jones name drop
>entire cast is perfect
>the Jaws approach of showing the Hulk
>the entire campus fight
>Jim Wilson cameo
>Leader build up
>falling out of the plane
>Hulk SMASH
>Hulk not killing Abomination for Betty
>Tony showing up to ridicule Ross
I'm a huge Hulkfag, this movie is like getting your dick sucked as far I'm concerned

He specifically said tied him up. Sure it doesn't make much sense where he kept him for days but eh well just roll with it or not.

Yeah they should have explained how you know who got their hands on it.

For all info we got from the movie Mar-vell could have been a Shield agent in disguise and be left with the cube to analize it.
It is a retcon obviously, but is never stated that the cube was stolen or disappeared or anything.

This probably had the worst action in a long time. What was the point of hyping her doing "lifting" when she doesn't do anything physically challenging ?

Hank operated in the '80s, the movie takes place in '96, so supposedly he was already retired back then

Well, did they really lose it? Technically Lawson was working on behalf of the US government, i don't think it's implied she stole it, and her sudden death was the only reason it was "lost" for this 6 years window

Oh shit son that was to obvious.
>tfw not even white

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Project Pegasus is US army, they shouldn't have access to it, unless Lawson was a SHIELD scientist with permission to experiment with it, which is never even hinted or suggested at

>did they really lose it
she had it stowed away in an orbital space cruiser for 6 years

Yeah I'm too lazy to look for the posts but for people wondering why Fury is unaware of all the shit from the TV shows or even just Ant-Man it's because he's only level 3.

I believe it goes all the way to 8 in the TV show so it's clear he's not in the know enough to comment.

Thats what takes it from retcon to plothole. I have to make up or assume what happened now.

It was never denied either. I mean, I am with you, it is stupid as shit and I am fucking tired of the cube being the fucking mcguffin everytime, but the movie didn't really create a plot hole so far even if it is retarded.

>Cont.

How long is this movie?

I now Yea Forums desperately wants to hate Brie Larson as some sort of political statement but she was honestly really entertaining in this and she's a good face for Phase 4.

Sbe's not 10/10 greatest actress who ever lived, there's definitely some dramatic moments where she comes off a little blank, but she carries a lot of the movie, especially when a lot of the action is so weak and the spectacle can't carry the film.

>inb4 it's all Jackson

Except Jackson is only this awake in films when he's got a good screen partner to play off of, when he's not that's when we're stuck with a Legend of Tarzan-tier performance.

Project T.A.H.I.T.I. was level 10 which is director

It was serviceable. Certainly nothing memorable or worthwhile, but serviceable.

I’ll admit I was pretty disappointed. And I see what some of the reviews mean about Carol being pretty meh. She’s simply not very interesting or compelling. Brie does what she can, but I left feeling underwhelmed by her character. Even the blander MCU movies do a solid job of characterizing the protagonist.

No just thought projection. To be honest I feel they intended to have it appear but just though "nah normies will laugh"

Two hours.

Larson isn't the problem, she's a solid actress, but Carol as a character is just bland and uninteresting

>Sbe's not 10/10

here's the thing. If she WAS any decent, you wouldn't need to preface with this.

Then why is someone whos so low on the totem pole making up avengers initiatives? That just raises further question!

Yeah, but I'm arguing she supposedly did it with her permission. I'm sure she didn't tell anyone she was keeping it in space but otherwise she was using it for research and development as far as they knew

Two hours

She is a problem at least in this movie. And I am not talking about her feminist crap, she just can't act for shit.

>but she was honestly really entertaining in this
That's just a lie though. She was boring pretty much the whole way through

>but Carol as a character is just bland and uninteresting

I'd say she's kinda generic but not outright dull, like Dr. Strange's arc in his first movie. Strange didn't exactly leap of the page but Cabbagepatch carried the weaker elements.

>If she WAS any decent, you wouldn't need to preface with this.

No I said I said that as a shield against the retards who will try and exaggerate what I'm saying as some sort of waifu defence force thing or something.

I guess I should have known that no matter what I say people will twist it into what they want to hear.

>Carol 'Avenger' Danvers

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Random thoughts:
-Brie is not funny. I have no beef with her but she just couldn't deliver those quippy lines well. For comparison I found Wasp and Mantis, even Valkyrie plenty humorous. Widow and Carol, not so much.
-Brie just felt miscast in general. Everyone else pulled their weight, but Brie honestly dragged the movie down.
-Why was a lightspeed drive so important? How else are they travelling throughout the movies? Okay I guess the Skrulls need it to go to another galaxy or whatever but why did the Kree want it? Or did they just want the tesseract? I feel like this wasn't explained well if at all.
-Why did Ronan talk like a normal guy in this movie? I barely even recognized him cause he sounded nothing like he did in GOTG.
-The reason for the Kree/Skrull war is not explained. Why did the Kree want to exterminate them entirely? Yeah, they're assholes, but there should have been some justification for their mega hateboner against the Skrulls. Painting the Skrulls as entirely in the right art poorly with me.
-Why are the Kree handguns, which seem to function like Star Wars blasters that vape huge chunks out of people, completely ineffective against the proto-Quinjet? Yet the guns on the proto-Quinjet are completely shred a Kree ship in seconds? I know there's different caliber weapons and probably even in space but they didn't even scratch it.
-Yon-Rogg felt really poorly defined. He either needed to be more outrightly villainous or have some meat to his character explaining why he's so loyal to the Kree. As is he just felt like a goon.
-The rest of Starforce was wasted. And they killed Minerva for no reason.
-Maria was beautiful and Monica was absolutely precious.
-Fury losing his eye to the cat was fucking stupid. I will never understand why they cast BAMF Sam Jackson as the most BAMF character in comics but never let him do anything cool.
I didn't hate the movie but it was very underwhelming and the plot felt very contrived.

>Why was a lightspeed drive so important

Gotta go fast

>she just can't act for shit
OP here, i can't agree at all. Did you watch the movie? She does a fine job

Speaking of which, I'm doing a fine job ruining my sleeping schedule. It's pretty damn late here in pasta-land so capeshit bickering will have to wait till tomorrow. Hope the thread was useful and all that

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>Why was a lightspeed drive so important?

it wasn't that was all a bullshit excuse to get back to his family

But what does that get them that the current system does not? I mean GOTG takes place in another galaxy so how are people already travelling between them if not for the jump system?

I’d say the movie just wasn’t funny. Like, it’s wasnt Thor 2 forced humor, but the humor felt really phoned in. Even the jokes Larson wasn’t a part of were meh.

To be fair he's a senior citizen now so maybe he just doesn't want to get physical

I did and she was by far horrible in it. I did like the movie, but with any actress that could actually do their job this could have been better.
She is simply a bad actress and this movie shows it clearly. Hell, it was pretty much Talos and Fury carrying the whole thing themselves. Even Carol's friend and kid were better than Larson's acting.

Okay but why was Lawson working on it in the first place?

True enough. There were a couple times I giggled but never at Brie. And I feel like so much of the humor was supposed to come from her. For me it definitely had one of the lowest humor landing rates in the MCU.

Good point.

>Carol leaves the Milky Way with the Skrull
>Carol shows back up
Chances Carol is a Skrull? Probably Zero.

for them to find a new home....did you even watch the movie?

>she is simply a bad actress

She isn’t. She was phenomenal in Short Term 12 and Room. The script simply didn’t give her anything to do. I’d say Carol has the most generic personality out of all the MCU characters now.

Are you reading my comments? What does the lightspeed engine accomplish that the jump system does not? People already travel between other galaxies in the MCU, they even reference it in this movie.

I think the story and characters are much more solid. I'd recommend watching Lindsay Ellis' analysis on the movie, if you haven't already.

Well for instance, Skrulls can't do her power fist things. It was said in the movie explicitly.

I trully trully envy you for finding her good.
I must actually correct myself, she was okayish at 21 jump street.

Would you rather have a faster than light system that relies on a set of pre-designated jump points or one that can get you from point A to point fucking B without dealing with the bullshit in-between?

it out paces the Kree, MCU skrulls aren't a mighty empire, they are fractured and scattered and don't have the resources to fight or really outrun the Kree. Kree propaganda is fueling the war Skrulls aren't really a relevant threat, hence why 6 Kree annihilated 30 something skrulls

It's an ANH/ESB situation. GOTG is a solid, well-paced space opera. It's fun above all else. GOTGv2 slows down and explores the characters. Neither one is better they just have different strengths.

maybe it doesn't leave a trace? or the skrulls lost a lot of their tech when the kree destroyed their homeworld?

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I mean, if you’re asking whether or not you’d come away from the movie thinking she’s a great actress, my response would be no. She gave a mediocre performance with a mediocre script.

That confirms to me that End Game will leak early too, now I don't need to spend money. Thank fuck

No, he's just a cat with a hentai mouth.

I'm worried about Endgame, guys.

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In Marvel all faster than light travel is done by pre-existing wormholes. They just map which ones go to what spot in space. This shit just went really fast on its own which is rare.

I’m not, it’s got the Russos behind it and not a pair of nobodies. If anything I’m actually expecting more from Carol in that film than this one. Infinity War did a great job of juggling important character moments while telling a story.

They don't say that's what the lightspeed drive does in the movie though. The current system is for all intents and purposes already faster than light. If the only goal is to find the Skrulls a new home it seems to me they should be able to do that with the current system without screwing around for years trying to make a better one.

I'm not trying to sound hung up on this but for such an important plot device this really wasn't explained. I don't need to know how it works but I do need at least a line clarifying how it's different.

Could be, but they didn't explain it.

I'm ok with that reasoning, too.

Shit taste, the image.

Russo's got it on lock

Brie must have something on Feige
There's no other reason he would step over all the female actresses already in the MCU and give the first movie to this retarded White Savior.

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Interesting, first I'm hearing of this. In that case I suppose it could allow them to bypass Kree space and thus detection. You got a source for this?

The Kree's method of hyperspace travel was used by multiple factions in GotG 2, seems to be the norm for the universe

How did Captain Marvel, who until now had never been to Earth with her current memory, know enough about Earth technology to create a holographic Kree phone?
Fuck, all she even did was use a circuit board with some resistors, diodes and wires.

>being so mad at (((Brie))) that you pretend ScarJo is a good actress

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This movie, especially with this alien cat shit, seems like its marketted to bitter old cat ladies.

I wish Coulson played a bigger role, or having a cameo by May or Pierce or something.

I hoped the worldbuilding/references would have been more numerous in a prequel movie like this

She hacked into the main frame and disable its algorithm

If anything there were too many inconsistencies. Like right out of the gate they called themselves SHIELD. Wasn’t that acronym only established during Iron Man 1?

Same with how reversing the polarity works as the solution to every problem in Star Trek, just fucking go with it.

That was a plothole long before this movie though. Shield was named as such by the time of Hank Antman. Probably long before that.

They obviously wanted to cat to be the big stand out and meme'd by the mainstream. Same with BB8, Baby Groot, and the Porgs before Goose. The Mouse will do this now and again.

SHIELD was founded after WWII.

Thats forgivable, considering the movies directly following IM1 began world building and shit and establishing SHIELD was a thing long before the events of the first movie.

But everything else-----people were hoping for Dethlok, Hydra experiments, fuck the Absorbing man at his prime. If you're going to make a prequel, go full continuity-wank like DoFP did.

Now hold on, you're not being fair to Baby Groot. Maybe he annoyed you but he was critical in showing the transformation of the various members of the GOTG from negligent and dysfunctional parents (perpetuating the cycle of their own upbringing) to loving and caring ones. That was like the whole theme of the movie.

Why was the cat never explained?

People liked Baby Groot and BB8 though. I don't know anyone who cared about the Porgs beyond TLJ ultrafans.

Cutsey lolsorandom humor gets old real quick in comics and tv

What is there to explain? It was the pet of an alien.

Just saw it as well. The first two acts are really, and I mean really, weak. They burn all their capital on having a big third act as a payoff. And the third act definitely paid off. It's just a shame the first 2/3 of the movie are so dry and hollow. I suppose with a second viewing it'll make more sense, but as a movie its structure was lacking.

I went in thinking it would be fine, and it was fine. I'd rank it somewhere in the upper-middle of all the MCU films thus far.

So what’d you guys think of the reveal about Fury’s eye? Personally I thought it was stupid. It wasn’t even done well enough to be funny.

I think it was stupid. I am not pissed at it being the wound caused by the cat, it is just the way it was done feels like... retarded. I don't know. Is not like you can have build up for a cat cutting your face anyway...

yeah they don't explain it, but hopefully it'll be explained in the future, but doubtful

the lightspeed engine IS made with the space stone/tesseract, so perhaps it's instant traversal, as opposed to the jump gate system that the galaxy seems to use? (it was nice to see that return from gotg 2

i do hope that it's revealed down the line that the kree destroyed the skrull homeworld by putting it on galactus' radar, would be absolute kino

What alien? When? Why does it look like a cat? Why does it help the protagonists? How did the skrulls know that it wasn't a cat just by looking at it?

It is quite honestly the absolute worst example of the MCU turning something serious into a stupid joke.

Dr. Strange is that low? I thought it was pretty good.

Mar-vell. The "cat" was the pet of Mar-vell so is not as retarded for it to be an alien too. Why does it help the protagonist? It was established Goose liked Carol before she turned into Cap Marvel. And how did the Skrulls knew? I have no fucking idea. I'll give you that.

>How did the skrulls know that it wasn't a cat just by looking at it?
They don't know what a cat is. That alien just happens to look like a cat.

I completely forgot that it was in a scene with Mar-Vell. Never mind, complaint rescinded.

That's stupid, but I guess not any more stupid than Kree looking identical to humans.

>Carol "Avenger" Daniels
Why does every prequel feel the need to answer questions no one asked?

It's okay.

Just okay.

She ain't stronger than Thor or Thanos though.

Speaking of Agents of SHIELD, doesn't Coulson ask Sif at one point in that show what a Kree is?

Need to vent so I'm posting things that will never happen:
>Super Skrull villain that takes command of a hidden Skrull civilization that Carol helped to rebuild
>Seeks ultimate power of whatever to protect his people from genocidal tyrants like the Kree and Thanos
>Carol would now have to deal with the consequences of her actions, despite the decent intentions she had
>Any scenario where Carol has to question using her overwhelming power to unilaterally force her good intentions on others
>Or the implication that destroying those who get in her way might not make her too different from the Kree themselves
Can't let the FEMALE HERO have her actions put into question, that would make the writers bigots

That's where you're wrong, bucko

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Just saw the movie
Better than everyone was hoping, especially the detractors

It's on the good half of marvel movies as far as I'm concerned
Not nearly as quippy, though I did find that a lot of the quips were related to GIRL POWER, which is fine

Lots of good action and banter, loved the twist about the kree though we could already assume if we paid attention to Guardians

It's about as good as you'd hope from a marvel movie, top 3 for the franchise IMO

>Thor
yes she is
>Thanos
yes she is
>Thanos with full gauntlet
got me there bud

humanity becomes enslaved by the Kree in the later seasons

Why are people mad about the Skrulls? I distinctly remember people gushing about M'Baku not being a complete twat to T'Challa in Black Panther and actually fucking cheering him on?

Eh I think she's OK and I don't mind her that much, but her being the person who carries the franchise in Phase 4? Lol no. I think Marvel will treat her that way but if they get a new actor or actress who has a lot of charisma and is extremely funny and likeable in interviews then the fans will gravitate towards them instead of Larson.

But should't he have known what a Kree was at that point in the show ? Especially after the events of CM?

Russos' Spidey and T'challa were better than their own movies.

Fuck all of this shit would be good but even if they ever go with "The Skrulls were evil all along" it wouldn't be Carol's fault.

They pronounce it "Veers" so it doesn't sound totally weird right away.

>Top 3

It's not even top 5
No she's not?

She was being hurt by punches from soldiers.

Thor tanked a goddamn star.

Thanos took on the full brunt of tonys suit and barely bled.

Get Brie Larsons cock out of your mouth

Shill post. Shill response. Die you mouse shill. Marvel is shit.

i dunno
in the show he is brought back to life using an experimental procedure, they infused his blood with this blue guys blood.
youtube.com/watch?v=MMumTaDknxU
then theres this episode
youtube.com/watch?v=8jNGyB3Fr8c

the tv writers arent told shit by the Movie writers

Not so much her fault, they would be justifiably paranoid after the Kree went all 1488 on them, but if she helps them find a new home, that's a base and a level of organization to a now-hostile power that she's now contributed to. Not to mention they would be great enemies for her, since they were all people she helped. She wouldn't be able to go Super Saiyan on them because there's a genuine emotional connection holding her back. The exact thing the Kree criticized her of, incidentally.

This might actually be what kills the MCU.

>Cap 1 and Avengers 1 aren't top 5
>Iron man 3 and Dark World aren't at the bottom
>Doctor Strange is at the bottom for some reason

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>not including that the script is for mallrats

Nah

all the top 5 movies beat out Cap 1 and Avengers
IM3 and DW are saved by Trevor and Loki
Doctor Strange is fucking boring and he's better in Ragnarok and IW anyway.

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TALOS THE MIGHTY
youtu.be/9s5mF4KWBIM

WTF!?

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>Sbe's not 10/10 greatest actress who ever lived,
She has a fucking Oscar. Brie Larson isn't a bad actress at all, but she was obviously not right for this role. She doesn't have a commanding enough presence and is a drama actress, not an action star.

They call her that because only half of her tag was found by the kree, weird though since I think her full name was on her shirt. I guess they named her “Vers” so she won’t remember her past

You say that about every movie.
Next you'll say super-hero fatigue will finally settle in.
Rinse and repeat for Endgame, then the movie after that, then the movie after that, then the movie after that...

You really want to use Oscars as a metric for quality?

Fucking Suicide Squad has an Oscar, Oscars hold no value

They should have set it up with more random eye injuries that didn't actually blind him till something big just barely avoids blinding him only for the cat to scratch him.

>March 6

Nah, it was mentioned there’s more around, I’d figure not all of them could be good though. Not sure how or why they would show up in endgame though

>Top 3

Holy shit. Can people make bait less obvious

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How hard will EVS and his followers cry when this makes bank?

>So, is Carol a genius too?

To be fair, that is something in line with comic Kree.

>Kree life priorities by date:
>Be the best
>learn genius
>Stop crapping you your diaper.
>chew solid food
>do what brain jar says.
>die of old age.

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Coulson might have been to low level at that point (remember Fury was 3 and his superior and clearance goes to 10). I mean sure it's dumb that he wouldn't read the backlog of secrets once he became director but still not impossible.

An Oscar for makeup. Movies aren't a one part package you can excel at something immensely but still be a shit movie.

I thought it was a fun enough watch. It's a bog standard Marvel film, but it's not to the point where it feels too bland. There were a lot of visuals I really liked. I'm kind of disappointed that an opportunity for another fun villain to watch was wasted on, well, a waste of Jude Law's talent. It looks like Disney's twist villains have crept their way into this film where the actual villain is just irredeemably bland, like we should be impressed "WE GOTCHA! YOU THOUGHT WE'D BE FUN AND CREATIVE WITH OUR VILLAINS THAT AREN'T LOKI, HELA, OR THANOS DIDN'T YOU?" (Shouldn't be too surprising as one of its writers is a Pixar vet) Also it feels like a full movie about the events leading up to this film would have been infinitely more interesting to watch than what we got. I also wish we got more Ronan and Coulson but that's a purely personal gripe. Also this felt like one of the least definitive Marvel castings ever. Every other role in the MCU feels perfectly casted and definitive that we'll instantly know who they are. This was the only time I felt literally anyone could have been Captain Marvel. Overall, it was fun and had its moments but didn't blow me away.
Also I thought Brie was cute in this film tbqh pham. I'm aware of that disgusting foot picture but she was nowhere near that gross here.

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They could be assholes after the snap, like I’d bet they would be pissed after being safe and then a chunk of them being wiped out

I disliked how Fury was all "Gee golly whiz, I sure do like the person you are Captain Blando.We're gonna be good friends for no reason!" I get that he's playing a younger version of Fury, but fuck'n hell, he was a soldier and a spy not some rookie cop.

Coulson actually mentions the Kree by name in the post-credits scene.

Coulson isn't in the post-credit scene

About as stupid as a cat monster eating the tesseract then convienently throwing it up later when its been proven that barely anything can actually touch it without being transported somewhere else in the universe.

>You say that about every movie.
I actually don't.
I'm just bothered by the sheer amount of focus they're giving Carol. She's the one that names the Avengers now, her pet is how Fury lost his eye, and she's being pimped as the one that tips the scales in Endgame. She's only got the one movie, and she's already being made to be the linchpin to such a degree that Larson can pretty much pull a JLaw and that's never a good thing.
We had a decade of movies and now this latecomer is the show stealer? How is that okay?

Listen, all we need to know is whether we can use "skrull" as an irritating dogwhistle the way we did NPC. Our R&D labs already have prototypes for Skrull wojak, damn it!

>Stan Lee cameos
Holy shit it's all of them, not just the MCU

I liked the dynamic they had and it was entertaining for me at least, I thought they had some nice chemistry. What I REALLY didn't like was how forced it felt. They just unnaturally hit it off like friends who knew each other for years. Didn't like that at all.

Gasp! This is illegal user!

That's what I meant. It was out of character for Nick Fury. We were supposed to like Danvers because Fury liked her. Why not just make her likeable?

>Supporting characters were fine
>Black lady going over the pain of what Carol disappearing meant to her
>actually felt bad
>Brie is actually more boring with her memories than without.

What went wrong?

>the Marvel Studios intro
Fuuuuuuuck I wasn't prepared for that.

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I wanna shoot my Proton Torpedoes inside Maria's Thermal Exhaust Port and I'm not gonna use my Targeting Computer

also Monica, but when she's of age in the next movie, of course.

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Suffering from a real bad case of man-shoulders.

>stronk mama
wouldn't have it any other way

I hope the humor gets better, these jokes are not landing

Enjoyable supporting characters and performances (Mendelson and Benning!) and Carol's entertaining smugly assholish personality help somewhat alleviate how weak and confused the foundation for her character building and development is, making the dramatic and emotional moments in the third act flaccid, as the movie just didn't do enough for me to invest in her. Typically pedestrian cinematography and utterly shit action, as usual in the MCU, but features some creative flourishes with the flashbacks and the Supreme Intelligence scenes. Setting up the plot about uncovering a mystery about the protagonist's past, but making it one the audience is already aware of, saps the film of a lot of energy and intrigue (indeed, the Skrull twist is about the only real surprise - and when you are making a capeshit equivalent to Memento, that kinda sucks), wasting a potentially interesting premise that is, on the paper, more original and interesting than your stock origin.

Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2
Guardians of the Galaxy
Thor: Ragnarok
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Captain America: The First Avenger
Avengers
Iron Man 3 (fuck you)
Iron Man
Avengers: Infinity War
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Black Panther
Avengers: Age of Ultron
>Captain Marvel
Ant-Man
Thor
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Iron Man 2
Thor: The Dark World
The Incredible Hulk

In AoS they were Minestry of Super Science until the 60s. I think.

Lighten up honey, huh? Got a smile for me?

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>seems like its marketted to bitter old cat ladies.

That's because they are basing the movie off of Krelly Thompson's several runs. Everything she writes is based off old cat ladies fantasies. Ironically, old cat ladies don't like her at all.

You mean you don't want to see Carol one shot Thanos like he was nothing?

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>I'd say she's kinda generic but not outright dull, like Dr. Strange's arc in his first movie.
Strange had a pretty good arc about humility and learning to lose. What was Carol's arc?
I'm legitimately asking this btw as I have not seen it and do not plan to..

She learns about the power of friendship and how to stop holding herself back.

Charisma.
M'Baku had piles of it.

No he's right I'd forgotten too, but Coulson does say "Is it true the Kree burned out your eye..."
So yeah that's a retcon or he said it without knowing what they were.

That doesn't sound very interesting.

God I hope Carol isn't the one to defeat Thanos. Please Russo's don't fuck ENDGAME up.

Hey guys remember how the Tesseract used to burn or melt or even teleport things and people if they touched it, and it had to be handled very carefully? Remember how it melted through a plane, and how it nearly burned through Fury's gloves when he held if for a second to put it in a container?

Nah it's ok let's just toss it around and put it in a lunchbox. Oh look, the cat ate it, then puked it onto a regular ass desk.

My Tier list

1. Captain America: First Avenger
2. Iron Man 1
3. Guardian of the Galaxy
4. Avengers: Infinity War
5. Guardian of the Galaxy Vol2
6. Avengers
7. Captain America: Winter Soilder
8. Incrdible Hulk
9. Thor: Ragnorke
10. Ant-Man
11. Doctor Strange
12. Thor
13. Black Panther
14. Ant-Man and Wasp
15. Iron Man 2
16. Captain America: Civil War
17. Thor: The Dark World
18. Iron Man 3
19. Spider-Man:Home Coming
20. Avengers: Age of Ultron
51. Captain Marvel

It really hurts it that this is the first one that has absolutely nothing new. It plays as a humorless GotG with Thor 1 and Winter Soldier mixed in, and her powers are generic shit compared to Ant-Man or Strange. It's the first one that feels like it's off an assembly line.

He was smart enough to not eat the kree soldiers the second time, because he knew Talos was in disguise as one and clearly had a plan.

There's a really damn good Coulson and Fury Kree/Skrull war buddy cop film in here, but this uncharismatic dull fest keeps getting in the way.

she is a Mary Sue, undermines fury and shield as characters, recons lot of MCU stuff to shoe horn her in, never gives shits on Mar-Vel, drenched in SJW shit, and finally no one ever calls her CAPTAIN MARVEL.

NOT ONCE DOES SHE ARE ANYONE ELSE EVER CALL HER CAPTAIN MARVEL!!

trust me their is alot worse then flat humor and generic action and power.

Brie cant act for shit. The LITTLE GIRL in the movie out acted her. A LITTLE KID!!

People have been able to hold it willy nilly for ages at this point. Yeah it's a weird retcon but it's not a retcon from this movie.

It's kind of an easy retcon, given the Coulson in Agents of SHIELD has had his memories reworked by SHIELD after they brought him back from the dead.

But it also doesn't matter because AoS isn't canon.

>The Dark World not bottom

Opinion discarded

Yeah it needed way more Coulson and Fury should have done something badass I get he's old IRL now but still.

I hated that. I didn't mind when Thanos and Ebony Maw could hold it, as they're powerful aliens, but a lunchbox?

The way she read off her lines, it killed every scene, like she was self aware that she was in a movie. Movie had two directors and neither could fix the way she talked.

I'm dreading every scene she's in in Endgame, but maybe the Russos can fix her like how they improved Spidey.

I'd watch Thor 2 for Hiddleston over this shit any day.

>never gives shits on Mar-Vel
You're right on the other stuff, but I have to take issue with this. Her final mission in the movie is explicitly to "finish what Mar-Vell started", she corrects Nick Fury when he gets Vell's name wrong, and in all flashback scenes, they seem like they were good friends. It's easy to see from the plot why she would take up the "Captain Marvel" name in the future.

Loki, Maw, Thanos, sure. Even Carol, since she gets her powers from it, indirectly.

But we saw it eat through a fucking metal plane. Now you can just put it in a tin box.

>Mar-Vell dies in a fucking plane crash
I didn't care that they changed him into a woman, it didn't matter. I was upset before with this movie, now I'm pissed

What can i say I liked seeing more of Asgard, the Thor with his buddies, and flying canoe with laser fighting blade ships. I just really liked the world design and first battle.

Though i will not defend the second half.

Oh wow you mean a bunch of parts explicitly built to come together for a pre-defined purpose? Yeah that's definitely not the most dishonest comparison I've ever heard.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW she managed to deliver every single line in the wrong tone, inflection or pace.
It's insane.

Look, I can buy that a more or less regular person from a much higher tech civilization can do comparatively crazy tech stuff in a lower civilization.

I mean, Rocket is not smarter than Stark, but he builds ships with nanomachines like it's nothing, while for Stark the nanotech armor was his greatest achievement ever.

When inhibitor was on she had to fight them with a challenge. No inhibitor and she was walking through Kree armada no problem.

Thor could not really take down metal sky fish

Vell survives the crash. Then Yon-Rogg shoots her.

Feet are disgusting

While am made about what they did the Mar-Vel, Turning him into a woman and then just killing them off. Im more worried that they kept this or tried to keep this underwrappes and not let it get out.

This is in the same vain as that MJ bullshit from MCU Spider-man. Where they kept saying its not MJ its a totally diffrent character only for it to be revaled in the final scenes, or was it a post credit scene, that she is MJ.

That was a real slap to face to the fans. Seriously if this is what i can expect from now on the i might not bother going to see Endgame.

Did they have to completely destroy Mar-Vell, too? It wasn’t enough that they want to make such a awful character like Carol the face of the franchise, they had to shit on one of the single greatest characters in Marvel history.

Doesn't really matter now. Thanos has already won

Feet are aromatic and delicious

And Starlord pitching a hissy fit tantrum and handing Thanos victory on a silver platter permanently ruined the character and soured any future movies

Brie herself repeatedly made the movie an identity politics issue.

Starlord has always been shown to be a loose cannon child in these movies, it was well within his character to lose his cool like that.

It's also a nearly endless source of energy.

Carol's Kree boss says early on that no one can look upon the SI's true form.

They made Pym a doddering old man. What the fuck does HE know?

After the Hulk Dogs in the first movie I wrote off MCU Hulk

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That's not MCU, like at all. Never has been

Thanos has the gauntlet. He's literally more powerful than God now. The mind gem can inform him of any and all plans against him and the time gem can wipe out anyone who thinks of opposing him before they can think of opposing him. He's literally invincible.

The dude's won. It's over. And most of the heroes are gone now.

I agree with most of it but Cap 1 is way too high and Civil War is way too low.

Well that sure as shit doesn't sound more powerful than Hela, let alone Thanos

>Infinity War did a great job of juggling important character moments

Like Quill and Strange literally enabling Thanos to win?

>works as the solution to every problem in Star Trek

Except it doesn't

She couldn't. With the Gauntlet he's now invincible

No they aren't. It's a pig disgusting fetish and those who have it are the lowest rung of humanity

They're amazing
You just have to try it

Not him but literally yes.

>Quill, previously established as the hothead good at improvising, ruins everything by improvising too hard
>Strange, previously established as the prodigy of the mystic arts, "ruins everything" because he is operating on a level the other characters are not equipped to understand

I mean I also think it's dumb they didn't at least call out the portal cut gaunlet option when Wong literally did that to one of Thanos' henchmen, but at least there was a kind of a sentiment behind it.

Honestly like I said, reading all of this it sounds like Carol's around the level of Quill hopped up on his daddy's juice. And I'm not talking about the full potential of what a Celestial might be capable of, just Quill doing the dumb Pac-Man shit.

Stormbreaker Thor cleaved through a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet, powered by things previously established as being universe warping weapons on their lonesome if channeled into something else properly. Like, Carol sounds like the Tesseract version of the MCU Maximoff twins and while I can buy just being a flying brick at all puts you in the high tier automatically in the MCU, she doesn't seem anywhere close to being the strongest Avenger.

Dude, Marvel fully licensed the movie. It's name is plastered all over it at the very start. Are you goijng to tell me the Marvel marquee did not play at the start. Stan Lee has a cameo. It's an objective fact that Stan cameos in every single MCU movie. It's never NOT been a MCU movie.

No. I have class and dignity.

You clearly do not if you do not like cute feets

The end result is that as a direct result of Quill's actions, Thanos has murdered half the universe. This makes Quill an accessory to MURDER. I don't care how in character it is HALF THE GODDAMN UNIVERSE IS DEAD BECAUSE OF QUILL AND STRANGE and with thwe Gauntlet there is literally no way he can be stopped. None. The Gauntlet makes him more powerful than God himself and Quill and Strange handed it to Thanos on a silver platter

Strange shgpould have let Tony die because one man is far less than half of the universe. And the needs of the many ALWAYS outweigh the needs of the few. No exceptions.Ever. But Strange just gave it to Thanos without even a fight.

Strange and Quill are literally direct accessories to murder. If anything THEY are the true villains. Half the goddamn universe is dead and Thanos can never be defeated

No, I do. Only the lowest grade of humanity gets turned on by feet.

It's not though, it's a Marvel Enterprises/Universal Pictures/Valhalla Motion Pictures/Good Machine film. Marvel STUDIOS had nothing to do with it and didn't exist when it came out.
>Stan Lee cameos mean it's MCU
Oh man, I didn't know X-Men, X-Men: The Last Stand, Deadpool, X-Men: Apocalypse, No Good Deed, Deadpool 2, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 3, Fantastic Four, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Daredevil, Man-Thing, and Venom were in the MCU

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feets are for men of culture

In the theater people laughed, the cat worked

absolute bugman trash

Ok. So you're saying that Marvel did not allow that movie to be made.

Because Im pretty sure it exists.Im looking at an action figure from the first movie right at this moment. The Gamma changer with the 3 3/4" Bruce figure? If this movie wasn't allowed by Marvel how did it get made?

The movie exists. It's real It's fully licensed by Marvel itself, you know the people who OWN the Hulk? You might have heard of them.

You say this after Dr Strange jumped into the mix and after only one solo movie (like Carol) and suddenly he's the only reason the good guys have a chance to fight back against Thanos. The only iffy part to me is the "Avenger" title, but at the same time since they went with the idea that Fury started seeking heroes to protect earth after this alien experience i guess it's understandable that they also wanted to take a chance to explain how a specific name like "Avengers" came to be

No they aren't. I just told y9ou they are gross, they smell bad. They are home to countless germs and bacteria

Countless delicious germs and bacteria, as men of culture love

Where did I say that? In fact, I said Marvel Enterprises made it. Not everything with the Marvel name on it is the MCU, I know that you already know that and are trolling

are the leaked credits still up anywhere?

>undermines fury and shield
She's a space asshole that eventually falls for a "weak" human and starts respecting him, how did she undermine him? And there's nothing wrong with showing SHIELD as a weaker organization in the past, Fury and Coulson were still good people trying to do the right thing. Not to mention we've known for years now that SHIELD was for the most part only Hydra 2.0 so i don't understand how "paying respect" should be important

>recons lot of MCU stuff to shoe horn her in
Not really, we already knew the Tesseract was for years on Earth and she's not even the first character that was powered on-screen by an infinity stone, the Maximoffs and Vision are. The only retcon if you want to call it that is the origin of the Avengers name, and that doesn't really change anything, it's not like the name was originally Cap's or Tony's idea, Fury just showed up with it

The other user already replied about the Mar-vell thing

Bacteria culture maybe.

So... Is Gamora's race now only at 25% because of the Snap? Or did Thanos leave it because he already slaughtered half of them?

Dude, Marvel Studios as the movie company behind the MCU didn't exist until Iron Man, their first project. They're not Marvel as a whole, we've discussed for years of how not even Marvel *Entertainment* exes, editors and comics writers are allowed to know what goes on with the Studios, because they are their own thing

Captain Marvel Finna be slaw!

Exactly. That's fine and feet are extremely fine

Fucking degenerate sicko.

Nope, Skrull Homeworld was destroyed by Kree for not wanting to join the Kree or some paper thin shit like that.

When communing with the Supreme Intelligence, everyone gets these green tendrils of goo forming webs/circuits on their body so kind of?

They better have a fucking surprise announcement for a Nextwave movie coming after Endgame because Monica was fucking amazing in that.

So will Phyla-Vell still show up in time to fucking ruin everything and also resurrect Thanos?

The Krees were colonizers, and the Skrulls naturally resisted. It isn’t any more paper-thin than actual human history.

Thanos never died. He's basically all powerful now. It's literally impossible to defeat him now.

No no the thing with Phyla is way after Infinity War.

But really? Thanos is all powerful? The gauntlet looked pretty damn near broken during the farm scene. He simply accomplished what he started and left for them to go find him.

Do i need to watch this one to understand the next avengers? or is it just filler?

Well, it's Carol's origins, if you're not interested you can ignore it just like you could ignore Dr Strange before IW or Ant-man before Civil War

I haven't seen the movie, but what I imagine you'd get from this movie is how / why CM is really strong and who she is, so that you won't sit there wondering what she's about
That said, it's probably just filler.

Complete filler

This is probably the most accurate comparison

so, are we still getting evil skrulls?

If we are, it won't be because the race as a whole is evil, unless we learn of some new development that pushed them off the deep end somehow. After all this whole ordeal takes place in the '96, a lot might happen since then i guess

>it's a really good origin story, on the same level as First Avenge

In concept, yes, it is - it's even an interesting subversion.

The main problem with the movie is its star. All the criticism I saw horribly justified: she is a charisma vacuum.

If they have her deal the first punch and actually manage to piss him off - something no-one in 'Infinity War' managed to do - and he then beats the shit out of her... they are going to make so much money. And nobody can call it unfair since 1) He's a villain. 2) He's the most powerful being in the universe. 3) It's fucking Thanos. 4) He's gonna lose in the end.

It will help her character to see her defeated.

I hope to god they did it like that.

I liked it. I didn't even realize it until they showed the dog tag.

Very good summary, user. Thanks.

>In concept, yes, it is - it's even an interesting subversion.
I agree its an interesting take on Cosmic Kree/Skrull war.
But it all feels shoehorned and retroactivily retconning just to push Carol. Its just like the comic push isnt it?

The kree have been presented as assholes for years. Ronan, the empire refusing to help Xandar against his rogue accuser, they were even the main villains of an entire AoS season. CM is just following suit

Strange also helps them out in Thor: Ragnarok, so more than just one movie.

user i meant the whole movie is interesting Kree/Skrull, but the retconning was Carol, that everything mcu is now changed in favour to carol.
I dont think that any kind of secret history retcon was ever popular.

But nothing changed

Sure it changed alot. Carol is now the reason for Avengers, she seems to be the last hope against Thanos, was the first superhero, responsible for the tesseract and formed Fury/Shield into what they are in the MCU.
Thats alot of 1st and reasons for a weekend that this all happened.
And regarding how this or other retro retcons are written comes of as deus exmachina or powercreep.

>Carol is now the reason for Avengers
Kind of

>she seems to be the last hope against Thanos
Not really, Scott and the quantum realm seem to be playing a big part too. Where are people crying about that?

>was the first superhero
lol no, she didn't even go public like Iron Man did. Steve, Thor and Hank are still older than that

>responsible for the tesseract
How? Mar-vell was just one of the many that tried to use the tesseract, Red Skrull is still the reason it was ever found, the US government with Howard's help is still the reason it resurfaced after Cap's incident, this changed nothing

>and formed Fury/Shield into what they are in the MCU.
What are you talking about, SHIELD was born after WW2, and TWS forever retconned it as an insidious Hydra project so it's not like any of that changed